Neil Lennon is big and bad enough not to need any help from you or me, but he has a job on his hands. He will prepare a squad to face Hearts twice in the next eight days, which he acquired from Brendan Rodgers in February, and which Brendan largely acquired from Ronny Deila, which is wilting before our eyes.
Injuries abound, the latest, Scott Brown’s broken toe, symptomatic of this season. Brendan tied himself in all sorts of knots in August, revealing fewer of his intentions to you or me than to Moussa Dembele. Dedryck Boyata went on strike during the latter, and unsuccessful, stage of our Champions League qualification campaign. Then Moussa went so off message Brendan decided it was best for him to leave town.
Have you worked in an environment like this? I have not, but these are just the things we know about. I doubt it was an easy shift for Brendan to lift the squad as well as he did for the Europa League, League Cup and League campaign.
Then, to cap it all, Brendan turned on his heels a day before we were due to visit Tynecastle and four days before a Scottish Cup visit to Easter Road. You may have worked in an environment like this, but I doubt you have successfully managed one.
It was demeaning for Neil Lennon to have to defend himself this week. Not to himself, but to the goldfish who are so unaware of the environment or parameters he has worked in.
Celtic won their first treble the day I was born, but I was 34 before they won their third. No club has ever won Treble Trebles in a row. Celtic have never won three consecutive Scottish Cups. The measure of our current success is so great it is difficult to quantify.
In 1995 we finished fourth in the league, two points behind Hibs and three ahead of Falkirk. But we went to the Scottish Cup Final that season and won the most magnificent dreary game played. This is football. Success is neither easy nor linear and it is never entitled. Appreciate these times.
Bring lots of change with you on Sunday, this is your one and only chance to buy a Foundation VIII Badge!
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Good morning CQN from a windy and rainy Garngad ?
It will be good if Dembelee and Okoflex get some game time tomorrow, but, although they are both young and have big, big futures ahead of them, the key is managing their game time as they get into the first team squad, and not be forced to play them every week as is happened to KT, and I believe he is showing signs of burnout.
Although I am of an age where I still struggle to come to terms with the term burnout. Playing football and getting paid well and all that…
My 22year old son keeps reminding me that today’s game is faster and players are fitter etc… arguments for and against that.
Although we want to win on trophy day, the cup final is now the biggest game of the season.
COYBIG
D. :)
It is being reported this morning that SFA have agreed a comp package with Kilmarnock for Clarke.
That’s another one off the list.
CANAMALAR @ 7:05 AM,
Thanks, you will have seen the effect much closer at hand during the great work you did pre Res12, during the presentation and subsequent calls for the “silver bullet”.
Hope I’m not speaking out of turn but it seems you guys were lured in, lead up the Celtic Way then fobbed off.
It seems you were alive to this but others gave, what looks like unwarranted, benefit of the doubt.
You guys represent “SHAREHOLDERS” you worked tirelessly and proficently, taking advice where necessary and presenting information as requested in a professional manner.
The way the Executive treated you, baring in mind knowing all along the time involved, the expense involved and they never had any intention of acting on this. It is abominable.
Who does that to any party they are in talks with, let alone a party representing shareholders, more, supporters with shareholdings of an institution that is “more than a Club”.
It is, to my mind, another manifestation of this toxic culture at work.
Hail Hail
Chairbhoy
Very well written piece … I’m not sure that there is anything fundamentally wrong with the org structure , its the old story of how the people operate it , so any new or improved structure will still fall foul of people egos … football industry is just full of big time Charlie’s , so we will be stuck with the tensions bit of a stretch to refer to a toxic atmosphere.
HH
Chairbhoy
Excellent post. You might think that clearly defined lines of responsibility is a no-brainer in any professional organisation.
HH
Good morning, friends, from a disappointingly wet and grey East Kilbride.
Chairbhoy at 6.54 – I really enjoyed reading that, thank you.
Big Jimmy on 18th May 2019 6:50 am
‘While I have sincere sympathy for any Victims of child abuse ANYWHERE, IF its True that those Abusers were NEVER EMPLOYED by Celtic etc, and therefore Celtic do NOT have any Legal responsibility’
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The question isn’t whether the abusers were employed by Celtic, it’s whether Celtic owed a duty of care to the victims to protect them from abuse and if so whether they breached that duty of care.
The answers to those two questions will depend on the evidence about who knew, or should have known what was going on, and when they knew or should have known.
But the argument that no duty of care could exist simply because the abusers were not employed by Celtic is repugnant.
Chairbhoy,
I see it as a microcosm of the rampant feral capitalist nature of those in power who have no interests beyond maintaining their power base, anything that demonstrates their lack of leadership or raises questions about their competence to acquit their responsibilities equitably without fear or favour will be suffocated.
Similar to how the Scottish media’s reporting of Scottish football matters reflects the media of the western world when it comes to protecting the hegemony of the capitalist empire that they represent, by inventing and propagating lies to support the empires agenda.
Unfortunately the toxic culture is all wrapped up and normalised in every fabric of society and the majority of Celtic fans have bought into it. They neither care nor are interested in anything that they don’t want to hear, only when it directly affects their lives do they make any noise and even then, its nothing more than a pathetic whine. The importance of Res12 to the greater society is that it is attempting to hold institutions and business organisations accountable to shareholders and stakeholders. The result to date clearly demonstrates that the power brokers have no respect for their own responsibilities except when those responsibilities are beneficial to the power brokers irrespective of the loss to the organisation and stakeholders.
The only leverage is direct threat to the power brokers, a course of action they have engineered in the expectation that no one would try as it can be easily spun as an attack on the club, and that the establishment would protect them as a successful execution of a legal result will leave the path wide open for similar action across many different industries.
Chairboy good analysis. All roads lead to Lawwell- He will ensure puppet Lennon is in place.
This will divide support as there is no way we will accept Lennon.
Ernie L…,
Couldn’t disagree more, if the re is no administrative or financial connection beyond charitable donations then there can no administrative financial responsibility, Duty of care therefore relies on individuals responsibility.
An argument could be made that all industrial accidents that happened during the construction of Celtic Park the clubs responsibility.
Also spurious but going on your logic it is acceptable.
EKBHOY @ 8:24 AM,
Totally understand what you mean and there is obviously aspects of Celtic FC PLC that run in an exceptional manner.
Yet the issues that arise and continue to arise with different personnel involved and different aspects of the Club seems to point to fundemental structural issues.
In fact some of them maybe obvious.
Who runs and is ultimately responsible for the Football Department at Celtic?
For instance a CEO is an employee of a Company (unless she/he’s the owner).
She/he will have specific functions and those should be transparent.
She/he is accountable to the Board of Director. There activities will be monitored by the Chairman and non-executive Directors of the Board.
This is fundemental to a Company especially when a Company is a PLC turning over 109 Million pounds of shareholders money.
Do you think this is clear at Celtic?
FRIESDORFER @ 8:29 AM,
Absolutely, even with the best intentions if they are not issues will arise. Also the way issues are dealt with will go awry if the lines of responsibility are not clear.
JOBO BALDIE @ 8:36 AM,
Thank you… Hope you enjoyed your trip to Espana and the memories of the next eight days of Celtica will be seared like the Spanish Sun…
CANAMALAR @ 9:00 AM,
Yes, the macro world operates in a way where what the Tories once called the “unacceptable face of Capitalism” is the norm.
We expect Celtic to act and operate to a much higher standard. It must have been close to twenty years ago Celtic issued a Social/Mission statement many pages long. In fact I remember printing it out so I could read it on the train to work (no mobile apps in them days).
Can’t find it now. Just short bland Coroporate speil now.
LUCKY CODY @ 9:07 AM,
My feelings are things are changing internally, whether they change enough and whether they change for the better the appointment of our Manager and Head of Recruitment will let us know.
Likewise it will also let us know if it’s the same old… like you say, that could well be the last straw…
Hail Hail
Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on 18th May 2019 9:11 am
Sorry, but you’re wrong.
The question of whether or not a duty of care existed does not depend on whether the abusers were employed by CFC.
Chairbhoy,
We should add there appears to be no code of ethics for the executive therefore they cannot be held accountable on this basis. A set of rules for the support that are often implemented and prosecuted and no rules for the executive.
While there is a code of ethics for both chartered accountants and the law society which demand their members report criminal behaviour, neither are implemented by affiliated members in out executive. Enough evidence has been presented to them supporting criminal behaviour that has impacted their areas of responsibility yet they have refused to take action, it further demonstrates their failure to meet fundamental ethical principals they sign up to as professionals.
While they refuse to act their silence can be interpreted as collusion.
Red 12 -: at original agm. I shook my head in disappointment when board said they would discuss it in private..u K we then they wanted to bury it..and they have. .. same as lord nimmo. Smith…we had approx 4 hours to appeal. But we had no one available to do so….despite everyone. I know waiting for announcement. CFc. Didn’t seem to know it was being made
Canamalar 9.00am
Spot on regarding Res 12. I posted this earlier today elsewhere:
And let’s not forget Res 12 while we are at it, recent comments from Auldheid suggest that the time has come for more concrete action to force the issue – but what? If Celtic (not the SFA) fail to progress within a defined timescale – say 2 months (this should not be allowed to drag on until the next AGM), then notice could be served of intention to take legal action against the Board for malfeasance . Is this desirable, necessary and/or feasible? I have long thought that a token action in the Small Claims Court, where costs are minimal, with a view to providing a short, sharp kick in the gonads might be the shock tactic needed to galvanise the Board. Why v Celtic Board rather than the SFA? Well, that is the genesis of Res 12, and requires CFC to deal with it. The SFA should flow from that.
HH
No complaint made for stolen titles. ….none about Campbell Ogilvy running. Enquiries into his own ebts. ..no complaints about a new club being allowed into league…..no complaints on New club being given old clubs titles…no complaints. About 5 way agreement..
the board are not Celtic fans….they hold support in contempt. Plenty of comments against the green brigade. And own support…. and of course DD comment on a club with a great history…. at ibrox
Huge blunder by NFL playing key players in the meaningless fixture against Sevco. Injuries could cost us the Treble this season.
ERNIE LYNCH on 18TH MAY 2019 8:51 AM
Big Jimmy on 18th May 2019 6:50 am
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Ernie,
Your Post in reply was somewhat “selective” as I also tried to put the argument about Boys being INJURED while playing for the Boys Cub, does that mean that their parents etc should SUE Celtic FC ?
IF those Abusers were NOT Employed by Celtic FC, but some one who WAS Employed by Celtic FC actually knew any of what went on, then I agree that Person(s) had a Duty of care, Responsibility…To go to The Cops, in the FIRST INSTANCE…and then Report it to Celtic FC IF they wish ?
IF anyone who WAS Employed by Celtic FC, and had knowledge of the abuse, but FAILED to go to the Cops etc…then that is a matter of their their own conscience, and still not a matter for Celtic FC to deal with as those Abusers were NOT Employed by Celtic FC ?
Why has none of the victims ( as far as I know ?), taken CIVIL Legal Action against the Abusers themselves, could it be because there’s probably more Cash to be made from Celtic FC ?
lucky cody on 18th May 2019 9:07 am
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Speak for yourself. I’d be delighted if NFL’s given the gig. His selection against Sevco was a blunder (all key players for The Scottish Cup final should have been rested) but as long as he completes the Treble I think the job is his if he wants it.
You and the rest of the doubters can go do one if you don’t like it. But at the end of the day you’ll suck it up and get right behind NFL when the time comes.
AULDHEID
Was there not a plan a few years ago with
Regard to fans donating towards a lawyer
to fight the Res 12 case
I would certainly be up for donating although
Perhaps amount needed would be too
Excessive
HENRY JOY on 18TH MAY 2019 10:05 AM
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For a couple of weeks before that game v Sevco, I was Posting on here that Celtic FC should REFUSE to fill that Fixture…based on the lack of health and safety towards our Players, Staff etc ?
I said that Celtic should just allow the Huns to get the 3 Points, and okay Celtic would probably been fined by The SFA…but How much money would the Huns have lost in TV Cash, Pies, Hospitality etc ?
HH
Hello again all you young rebels.
LUCKY CODY.
What a sad way to describe the Celtic manager ” Puppet Lennon”
Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks about his ability to manage our great
club and there’s been some stultifying criticisms this week and i’ve kept
myself away from it all.
Even on the other channel where all the disgruntled tims have united in
their condemnation of all things CQN and one poster even had the gall
to castigate us as the diddy blog, not even seeing the irony that most of
us look in there and some even post, quiet surprised it wasn’t called out
by the host.
Really looking like the Celtic family my arse.
H.H Mick
I’d take lennie – gotta back him thpough with purchases and non comppers
Ernie L..,
Since there is such a thing as a corporate entity that can be legally held accountable, then unless that corporate entity is administratively of financially (beyond charitable donation) that corporate entity has no responsibility for another organisations actions.
Individuals employed by that corporate entity who interact with other organisations that breach the law are responsible for their own subsequent actions on whether they report the breach or not. Only if a decision was taken and minuted at executive meeting level to refrain from reporting (and even then the evidence must be mote than hearsay or one against one dispute) can the corporate entity be held accountable.
Unlike Res12 which is asking for an investigation into the SFA’s administration of their licensing procedures. In the highly unlikely event nothing turns up in a UEFA investigation, no one gets hit with defamation law suits. Making accusations of criminal behaviour regarding defamation without unquestionable evidence would have put the club in serious trouble.
You must also remember the reason why the charges took so long to be properly investigated, it took a considerable shift in the attitude of society to take children’s accusations seriously, the culture was that adults claims commanded a lot more respect than those of children.
This may sound callous but if the police were not the first point of call for the victims why should Celtic be held accountable? Celtic were/are the wrong organisation to report this kind of criminal behaviour it was/is and always will be a police matter,
I think NFL would make a good fist of the
Managers job as long as he is financially
Backed the same as any of these big names
Being touted for the job
Or backed the same as that snake Rodgers
But will he be backed the same
Big Jimmy on 18th May 2019 10:11 am
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Would assume victims lawyers have advised on the best legal action to take that will result in most compensation. That’s the way the system works.
CELTICFOREVER.
Bang on, financially backed thats the key.
H.H Mick
Big Jimmy on 18th May 2019 10:16 am
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Competition rules would not permit that course of action.
I argued before fixture resting key players as Der Hun would be out to maim. With the League prize in the bag the only consideration should have been to prepare for Scottish Cup final. Everything else was meaningless in the grand Treble Treble scheme of things.
HENRY JOY
Initially i thought i was with with BIG JIMMY on this and what
would they do suspend us ? put us out the league?
And then i thought … a feckin treble treble and they will be eating
themselves from the liver upwards lol.
H.H Mick
Friesdorfer/Celticforever,
There are outstanding bills for the legal fee’s but we have not stopped racking them up, we will likely look for help a bit later.
At the moment the discussion is whether we go further down the legal path or how much more we can do using that option since it will cost plenty.
I personally believe the time has come to report it to the police for two reasons, first it will reduce costs greatly if they investigate and bring charges, secondly it will strengthen our hand if/when we decide how and what to do about the Plc executives abdication of their responsibilities.
HENRY JOY on 18TH MAY 2019 10:25 AM
Big Jimmy on 18th May 2019 10:11 am
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Would assume victims lawyers have advised on the best legal action to take that will result in most compensation. That’s the way the system works.
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to be fair to You, as You don’t know Me etc, but I know how the System works as since 2009 I have Sued ( with some Success)…. Three individual Solicitors, My last employer, The Scottish Legal Aid Board, The Law Society of Scotland, a Housing Association, and I have came against my last Mortgage Lender in Court on 5 occasions, not forgetting making official complaints against a so called Sheriff from Edinburgh……ALL on My own.
My Financial success would have amounted to MUCH More Compensation, but the Legal System in Scotland is ROTTEN to the Core…and I have had several Solicitors agreeing with me on that score. The legal system in Scotland is THE MOST Corrupt organisation that I have ever came across….MORE Corrupt than Sevco !
I also attempted to sue My Trade Union, but couldnt get any lawyer to take them on. So many lawyers said that My Union were TOO BIG , DESPITE the Documented evidence that I had against the union….” My so called “union” simply just closed Ranks on Me,…..”UNITE the Union”….SCUMBAGS !
HH
Celticforever,
They never backed BR, what makes you think they will back NFL?
HENRY JOY on 18TH MAY 2019 10:32 AM
Big Jimmy on 18th May 2019 10:16 am
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Competition rules would not permit that course of action.
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What IF Celtic had simply handed in a Dozen Sick Lines ?
HH
MELBOURNE MICK on 18TH MAY 2019 10:45 AM
HENRY JOY
Initially i thought i was with with BIG JIMMY on this and what
would they do suspend us ? put us out the league?
And then i thought … a feckin treble treble and they will be eating
themselves from the liver upwards lol.
H.H Mick
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Mick,
Given that we had ALREADY Won the League the week before at Aberdeen..IF Celtic had refused to fulfill the Fixture at Ipox last week, and The SFA decided to TRY and STRIP our TITLE as punishment….Would that threat to Strip Celtic of a Title, NOT Rebound Big Time on the SFA…and their refusal to strip titles and Cups from the Old Rangers ?
HH
Given that RES12 was, by definition, a shareholder initiative – is there an opportunity for shareholders to change tack at the next AGM by perhaps trying to block the re-election of a board member, put forward an alternative candidate for the board – or something along those lines?
https://twitter.com/1888JT/status/1129636599019577344?s=08
Rio Ferdinand on The Maestro
Canamalar
To clarify, do you seriously believe that plod, the Crown Office et al, will diligently investigate the SFA and RFC(IL) for fraud?
Good luck with that.