Neil Lennon ‘got’ Celtic. He was a rookie appointment, and the early weeks were far from comfortable, a Hampden defeat to Ross County looked like an ominous early sign, but from the start of his first preseason he didn’t look back.
He was a hugely successful Celtic manager in Scotland and in Europe. The Barcelona team of the last six years, possibly the greatest team in history, were at their peak when they visited Celtic Park in November 2012. Neil came up with the game plan which brought Celtic victory and raised our profile across Europe.
What he had to endure off-field during his time at Celtic was atrocious and a blight on our society. But he overcame it. He stuck it out when you or I may have left, and now he leaves on his own terms – an undisputed winner.
More at another time on who next, but if we get a man nearly as capable we will be doing well.
Take care, Neil.
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Twists Towcester lol
Drambowie
Oops…yes indeed, sorry;-)
Folly Folly
DL is very down on Scottish Football generally and will openly admit that.
He is to a certain extent, down on the board in terms of their being able to sustain the interest of the manager over a prolonged period.
That criticism may well be justified in many respects.
I think he is deeply frustrated that Celtic find themselves in a situation where they are trapped in Scottish football and so have a mentality that is essentially governed by Scottish Football and its financial and sporting status.
Hey, we are all in that boat — but yes he does come over as a curmudgeonly dour critic — though he is not actually that curmudgeonly or dour if that makes sense.
BT- Delighted to see your old man on the Lisbon trip,a true Celt.
Morning Ah’ll
I have it from a reliable source, (and its not Coyle’s granny) the Henrik Larsson will be our commander in chief before the end of the day.
big wavy
10:35 on 23 May, 2014
No longer the Dear Green Place?
Bloody I phone, I hit post button,
To finish my post
Scotland Today programme showed the contrast of two men.
Matt McGlone telling it as it is, and well said, and he won’t care he will never be asked to comment again.
Waddell a typical out and out hun, a hurting hun, saying a Celtic Or Rangers manager can’t walk the streets without fear of abuse or assault. I don’t recall a Rangers manager being assaulted in the street, or at his place of work, or indeed having to put up with a fraction of abuse that was directed at Neil Lennon. It is Scotland’s shame, and Waddell and his like are happy to sweep it under the carpet, like the corruption in Scottish football.
Celtic FC should tell the SMSM to gtf because they are a disgrace to journalism.
It is a pity that Matt McGlone didn’t add the fact that Neil Lennon would go down in history as the last Celtic manager to beat rangers, as they died in 2012.
Yes, Mr Waddell read the history,
Read it and weep.
SPD1956
Amazing to read the SMSM commenting now on the disgraceful abuse, Neil and his family had to endure.”unacceptable”, “disgraceful” ,” embarassment to Scotland” blah blah blah.The Spitting Image puppets,had these cretins down to a tee.
BRTH
Considering those questions were in obvious response to your we are being played by the MSM post and nobody , especially you, chose not to answer them but query their phrasing then I will leave that one open to the jury.
Resolution 12 eventual succesful resolution will prove that not to be the case.
HH
Sadly not Mags. Ten year old institutions become more naturally conformist after that time if they want to grow. CQN is no different and I guess is going through that transition.
This place, when it had an edge and some fantastic contributors years ago, was brilliant.
Twists
The scarlet,blue and white pimpernel. Real laugh out loud. Man we got to meet up soon.
HH
Davie Moyes boyhood Rangers fan would be the perfect Old Firm fit. For that reason alone the bored may push the boat out contractually for him. He has very little European experience.
I can’t see any of the four major candidates working under Peter Lawwell
HH
Owen Coyle the mover in the betting markets this morning. As little as 3/1 joint favourite with Ladbrokes and 3/1 joint second favourite with Willie Hills
Big Wavy
Can I address something on the Daily Record thing.
” the point I raised which was in response to YOU using the DR to reach an audience.”
Can I say that the above sentence would be a valid criticism if it were true.
Personally, I would want nothing whatsoever to do with the daily Record on any account and it was for that reason when it came to the promotion of the Willie Wallace book
( which had my name on it ) there was no approach to the Record.
Instead there was an approach to the Herald ( Hugh McDonald ) and The Scotsman
( Glenn Gibbons or Tom English ).
The difference with TG’s book is that we allowed the author and Tommy complete control over which press members they approached.
That was a complete and total error of judgement, not because of any mal intent or whatever on Tommy’s part or Alex’s part, but because we should have had far stricter terms on serialisation dictating a list of excerpts that could be used for serialisation and a list of publications to whom the serialisation could go.
However, the error was effectively allowed because the decision was made not to been seen to interfere too much in the decisions made by Alex and TG. Effectively the decision was made not to dictate to Tommy and Alex what they could and could not do.
Now, I know that on here or telling stories I am prone to using the odd 1,000 words when 10 might do, but in a business context I believe in sometimes being somewhat blunt.
The decision was a crap decision and what should have happened is that the Record and other publications should have been excluded as a matter of contract ( there is a signed contract in connection with the publication ).
However you are just plain wrong when you say to WC ” You used the Record to reach an audience”
That is not just syntax or hiding behind the legal niceties as to who contacted who.
In this case it is absolutely pragmatically incorrect as there was no involvement, no contact, no tacit consent, nothing.
It was just a straight balls up — and when a balls up occurs, face up to it, recognise it, learn from it and move on.
I agree though — as I said before — at times we can all take things too seriously and when that happens all sense of perspective and fun goes out the door.
big wavy
10:50 on23 May, 2014
CQN was operation expose Murray up until the 5 way agreement. Since then it has been cover up Celtic plcs any part of it.
HH
My auld man is seldom right on anything to do with rumours.
He said get your money on Steve Clarke. I have no written him off as potential new boss.
LB
The Battered Bunnet
10:31 on 23 May, 2014
Kikinthenakas
Agreement breaks out on CQN! Hurrah!
If we go for Henke (or similar inexperienced coach), it tells me the club don’t consider the manager’s role as anything but functionary within a structure. It’s as if the structure de-risks the appointment by removing from the role the influence to change anything except team formation.
I would hate to see Henrik in the job. It would be an angst ridden, toe curling experience for all involved.
Laudrup and Weighorst would be engaging. I’d take that now.
Malky is young enough to adapt and fit into the way things are done now at Celtic, though Steve Clarke would probably better understand the value of the job.
Moyes though. Moyes would be here ’til he retired. He doesn’t want wages, or status, or a career step. He wants to create legacy.
10 years at Celtic and he could be a legend.
Give him the chance.
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I’d be surprised if we went for Davie Moyes for the very reasons you state re: Henrik. The board are looking for a coach rather than a manager in the old school sense. And I think Davie Moyes sees himself as a manager in the mould of Alex Fergusson etc. – someone who had a great deal of control and did more than just manage the first team. I think it will be someone who is happy to simply manage the squad and concentrate on what happens on the pitch on a Saturday. Or Sunday. Wednesday, Friday night….etc.
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy,
To be fair, Spiers was very strong on the abuse Neil suffered and what it says about Scotland. Matt McGlone came across as a conspiracy theorist to me. Everything he answered seemed to imply that dark forces were at work and nothing was as it seemed.
My friends in Celtic,
Once again it seems there are more questions than answers. Paul 67’s articles IMO continually drop hints about working towards relocation.
I have one question above all others.:- It is increasing clear that our future must lie outwith the SPL, what tangible efforts are we doing ( if anything ) to further this aim. Is Celtic Nation our strategy. ?
I am aware that sometimes it is impracticable to outline every last detail, but continual rumour must surely need answered.
Or am I totally misunderstanding the hints and equate 2 + 2 = 5.
HH.
It may well be that with Champions League football not guaranteed at Parkhead next season – Celtic face three ties that could see them conceivably have to beat Arsenal, Porto or Bayer Leverkusen in the final play-off – he just could not face the strain of qualifying again.
Do journalist actually understand the workings of the CL qualifying process? Do they ever do any research?
And this is from the Scotsman, not the DR, Sun or Star
Blantyre Tim
When I was in Canada I was paying $500 a week for Celtic games from Setanta.
In the later years I had three Celtic clubs close to me, so all the Tims where going there cheaper Booz and all that, so about the last two years myself and about three other guys would be watching it BUT Setanta didn’t bother about that they had to have there money and they got it, out of MY pocket seemed pointless asking three or four guys for $10 each I may not have been there in body but my money was still going to Celtic, and I never missed a cup final that Celtic where in the 23 years I was there, my brother and I always flew home for finals, and even if there was no finals I always made a point of coming home every 18 months of that 23 years and it wasent for the weather, as you say I wasent here, of that you are correct, make of it what you wany, and think you I am on the mend and feeling fine, and funny enough I am heading off to Canada two weeks today for a three week holiday with my daughter, funny how times change.
Is it because that mob from Govan are deid that so many are turning their hatred towards the board?
I don’t know why Lenny left but he goes with my best wishes as I continue to support my club, Celtic.
I could also speculate on Lenny’s reasons for leaving but why bother?
Entrenched points of view will not waver.
Looking forward to next season.
Henrik was class, class is permanent, he gets my vote, he IS a leader.
Off to the CQN golf at Bonnyton.
EC67
winning captains
I think TG’s pulling yer leg. Him and Stevie Chalmers were on our Lisbon trip against Sporting in the 1990’s (Cadete scored 2 for them) they even went to the Estadio Nacional with us. Excellent ambassadors for Celtic.
I think one of the reasons NL left, was due to the fact that after we get knocked out of Europe, the season is virtually a dead rubber and will be for the foreseeable future, even when the huns get back.
livibhoy- i’ve got a fiver on Clarke @ 12/1 :((,
hun skelper
10:10 on 23 May, 2014
Absolutely…..HAIL HAIL……!!!!!!!!
gordon_jbackingneil lennon
11:01 on23 May, 2014
I never seen it but I have felt the same way. Especially since the Embra court case. Or was that verdict not s conspiracy ?
HH
S=a
twists n turns. I had a look at that Bangor race and her performance wasn’t bad giving weight away to the first 2 including a Jonjo hotpot.
The return to hurdling has obviously helped.
I’ve also had an email from the tipster Carl Nicholson giving her as a free tip tonight.
I’d be interested in your opinion after your phone call if that’s OK.
TBB
Henrik becoming manager would be a sop to the younger supporters and the intention would be bums on seats and more STs sales. This old stager would like to see some talent and experience and someone with a good coaching background both for the first team and bringing through the youths and keeping our first teamers out of the headlines. A dream team for me would be Davie Moyes and Stevie Clarke. We can but hope and wish….
Kikinthenakas
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoT-KX_IQAAffcC.jpg:large
The Boss watches his Lions fly to Lisbon
HH
Guys – regards dissemination etc and the fallout it’s causing.
I can genuinely inform you that I knew Neil Lennon was leaving 3 or 4 days before it broke – or, indeed, before it was ‘leaked’
There are 3/4 posters on here – well known and well respected – who can verify that.
I will not release the details on here – would happily PM anyone to tell them what I know – but I do know (Factually) that NFL had already said certain goodbyes (3) in the past 2 or 3 weeks (Unconnected to Football per se) which left no room for misunderstanding.
As to why he’s leaving? As to whether there’s a board plot with shock and awe media spin?
I’ll leave that to the people better suited to ‘disseminate’ it…
Neil Lennon had told people he was leaving at least 2 weeks ago. At least.
U
I’m on Facebook & Twitter if you need to PM.
Awe naw. Agree with u mate. Time for a change at the top
Neil won’t be allowed to say why he left publicly. But has been saying privately that he was not happy with players sold under him and the money not being invested back in the team
Yup I can remember Davie Moyes with a Hun scarf on at bearsden train station in early 80’s before a game against the deid club. We have him abuse as he was playing for Celtic reserves at the time
BRTH
Big thanks for coming back but I guess we are having two different conversations. My only input was on the back of 2 WC comments (one I referenced above for clarity) the other an anecdote as to why using the rags was a good strategy to reach the non-internet / CQN audience (the guy in the warehouse). That was it in a nutshell and it seemed at odds with the central purpose off the blog.
As often does here, it got magnified and the closer it got to Tommy’s slot the more it got roped in with his personal needs, something I have no right comment on or judge the legend on.
The more I got misinterpreted the more I got frustrated and I shouldn’t have used the two faced comment, which I later apologised for.
I get the need and I get the difficulty when you want to sell books to a wide readership (and given CQN has not revolutionised reading patterns in a decade) you’ve got to be pragmatic and less dogmatic or you get marginalised.
And 10 years on and despite some successes it felt a very public admission that CQN needed the assistance of the MSM for its purposes on this subject. Soon it would go back to lambasting them (as per this am).
My last on it. Don’t know if it’s landed but the debate since last week has given me no bloody pleasure (back to why I used to love coming on) as the place is just too damn serious / righteous / miserable for a love of a club that should be bringing us that boyhood flutter again and again.
Thanks
TD
my cousin used to drink in your boozer and also the club….
young Jim C…
!!Bada Bing!!
Sorry about that mate. If my dad does get this right it will be a first!
LB
jeez_I_thought_blinker_was_pants
Sorry – think he meant to the stadium. He has his boots and they are planning to go along and re-create the goal.
ulysses mcghee is praying for Oscar
11:09 on 23 May, 2014
So when were the board aware and when did they start sounding out replacements?
And why the delay in the official announcement?
Steve Clarke would be my choice. Celtic man, intelligent, great domestic and european experience. But am a bit surprised we don’t hear mick McCarthy’s name quoted more. For me his record stands very favourably next to mackay, coyle and definitely henrik.