I spoke to Phil Mac Giolla Bhain, a man who wears his Republican heritage on his sleeve, about the hostile reaction to his comments on modernising the Celtic songbook a few months back. Phil found himself to be an easy target for conspiracy theorists who turned on him for issuing a request to an end of political chanting. I’m sure Neil Lennon will not find anything like the same reaction to his comments in the Sun today, but it remains to be seen if anyone listens.
Neil said, “It’s important that we put a general message out that these chants have no place around our club. To be honest, we are better than that as a club and we always have been, we just don’t need it.
“We are and always have been a club open to all and we do not have issues around sectarianism. We have our own values and traditions but they do not include these chants. We don’t want them at matches and they must stop.”
This is not the first time Neil has given the same message this year. After his earlier comments I actually heard, “Who is Neil Lennon to tell me what I can and can’t sing? I’ve been going to Celtic Park a lot longer than he has.”
We are in a classic social paradox. The reputational damage of political singing is not felt by those who sing, and the risk of personal consequences arising for any individual singer is probably around 1%. And let’s be honest here, for all the supportive flags, banners and “I’m Neil Lennon” proclamations, is Neil respected enough to be listened to, or has he become a modern Che Guevara-poster boy?
Whatever you think of Neil, or his rights to say what you can or cannot sing, he has the best interests of our club in mind whenever he speaks on this subject.
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BADA BING 1104
Only as espoused here.
Sorry,intruded on a private moment perhaps,the suggestion was that without the aforementioned,you may be about to become familiar with the toe of one of the shoes mentioned earlier.
Not to worry. Id best stick to Rado 3….
Big Joe
Big girls blouse
Not going tomorrow but why not hum every single song tomorrow, and give every tune laldy!!
Celtic_First,
Thanks. I might develop this into a longer article
Big Joe. I had my big toe nail removed about 2 yrs ago the only thing that hurt was the injection ( notice I said hurt as it wasnt sore enough to be called painfull).It had to be bandaged and treated for about 12 weeks during which time I wore an open sandal on my foot.At no time was there pain I would have it done again today if it was needed and to think I suffered years of pain with the in grown toe nail.Jo if you need it done go for it you will feel the benefit.
The total attendance of the SPL last season was 3,118,430 people. Only 90 sectarian crimes occured within this amount. What is the purposed of this new offensive behaviour at the football bill?
From the BBC
Aberdeen say they have still had no contact from Rangers about Sone Aluko.
Aluko, who has been training with Rangers with a view to signing, left the Dons in the hope of finding a club closer to his family in England. (Glasgow?? closer?? anyway….)
The Pittodrie club feel that they are due a six-figure sum in compensation because of the player’s age, should he sign for the Ibrox club.
Aberdeen source
A club source said: “We’ve not heard from Rangers or from Sone, but we are fairly confident of our case.”
The case could be settled before a tribunal if the clubs cannot agree a fee, but Aberdeen are understood to be determined to pursue the matter.
“Our fans would never forgive us if we let Rangers walk all over us on this,” added the source.
If he thinks his fans won’t forgive him for this then I can’t see them ever returning to Pittodrie if Aberdeen ever voted for a RangersNewco to return to the top flight.
Up over goal
Just back from collecting tickets from Parkhead.
Don’t know if its significant but while I was waiting the players were all arriving. Everyone of them was wearing official CFC tracksuits apart from Ki.
It looked to me like he won’t even be making the journey north never mind playing.
whitedoghunch says:
18 November, 2011 at 11:22
Big Joe
Big girls blouse
Thanks for the reeeeeeasuring words……..
BigjoeGoingundertheknifeNow
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS says:
18 November, 2011 at 11:21
Do not apologise,the big oaf IS going to get said toe in his erse,
Joe Filippis Haircut at 10:57
is that 70 all “first team” players or does it include U19s and possibly those on loan. Here is what I think the squad is:
First team Players>/B>
Fraser Forster
Łukasz Załuska
Adam Matthews
Emilio Izaguirre
Badr El Kaddouri
Daniel Majstorović
Kelvin Wilson
Cha Du-Ri
Mark Wilson
Charlie Mulgrew
Glenn Loovens
Thomas Rogne
Lewis Toshney
Scott Brown
Kris Commons
Joe Ledley
Ki Sung-Yueng
Paddy McCourt
Beram Kayal
Paul Slane
Dylan McGeouch
James Forrest
Patrik Twardzik
Filip Twardzik
Victor Wanyama
James Keatings
Georgios Samaras
Anthony Stokes
Mohamed Bangura
Gary Hooper
Other Youth Players
Robbie Thomson
Nick Feely
James Wightman
Curtis Jones
Joe Chalmers
Marcus Fraser
Mo Yaqub
John Herron
Callum McGregor
Jackson Irvine
Jordan Moffat
Paul George
Liam Gormley
Bahrudin Atajic
Tony Watt
Out on loan
Dominic Cervi
Niall McGinn
Josh Thompson
Joos Hooiveld
Darryl Murphy
Richie Towell
Greig Spence
Morten Rasmussen
Darren O’Dea
Efrain Juarez
To my count that’s 56 (including 10 on loan that we aren’t paying wages off). Still a huge squad and I agree, there are no doubt some who we should be letting go.
Mort
Googybhoy
You responded for some reason to an earlier post of mine as follows….
googybhoy ♥ Celtic says:
17 November, 2011 at 23:50
Estadio
My point is that Manchester has a week long Irish festival and cultural event backed by the City Council with a major parade.
You will know that but why does the city with the biggest Irish diaspora not have the same ?
You know the answer to that.
Why am I asking you questions you know the answer to?
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My post neither gave an opinion about motivations nor the rights and wrongs of what happens in the strange world of Council rooms, especially not in Manchester or Glasgow.
All I commented on was the statement that your good self and harryhoodsdugbit me made or agreed with that ……
“The only country in the world not to have St Pat’s parade is Scotland. Plenty of other marched take place right enough. HH.”
I pointed out that Coatbridge in particular has a week long festival (one that subsequently ULY pointed out was rated 5th in the greatest St Pat’s days festivals around the world) and that Glasgow had started its own through The Garngad lads.
The Coatbridge one in fact is usually attended by the Irish president and has had more than one front page and double page spreads. So Scotland (the country) does host parades and more. That was my only observation.
I made absolutely no comment on ‘the reasons’ why one of similar proportions had not been established in Glasgow, but I have my opinion. One that to be honest isn’t worth putting down here as it doesn’t go with the apparent flow of official collusion and prevention.
Sadly there would be little constructive discussion and I really have read enough of the invective and pointless barbs between excellent Celtic supporters, so I think I’ll just keep it to myself or for a more considered medium like sitting in a bar or on a bus where I can hear the tone of voice, see the glint in the eye, gauge the body language …..and anticipate the right hook with a blocking left guard while sending my own destroying left upper-cut onto the exposed chin of my careless adversary! :-)
Mind you I might just share a pint and equally influence and be influenced by them.
Hail Hail
Estadio
Mort The poster didnt break down the numbers I took it to be all players who were drawing a wage from Celtic Park. H.H.
The figures re. charges brought within football stadia are only of worth anything if they are broken down into numbers of home and away fans charged. Although. We do know how this will be played out.
One more thing for the PLC to get its teeth into. Aye Right!
What’s the stats on Catholic to Protestant percentages re. Scotland’s population.
This needs to be weighted re. Population % to see the true likelyhood of being a victim if you are or are perceived to be a Cathloic in comparison to other religions.
Id do it myself but I need to go out.
So Mathama-tim-ian’s ill expect the figures on my return.
MWD
Joe Filippis Haircut says:
18 November, 2011 at 11:23
Big Joe. I had my big toe nail removed about 2 yrs ago the only thing that hurt was the injection ( notice I said hurt as it wasnt sore enough to be called painfull).It had to be bandaged and treated for about 12 weeks during which time I wore an open sandal on my foot.At no time was there pain I would have it done again today if it was needed and to think I suffered years of pain with the in grown toe nail.Jo if you need it done go for it you will feel the benefit.
Thanks for the info, I just had the injections. They are prepping now
It was good knowig you all……..
In Lennon we trust
Bigjoeoverand
Out
Seven Fishes Four Steaks at 11:15
I was so far up in among the barca fans, didn’t really notice at all. Might have been a tad inebrieted by that stage anyway.
Mort
Joe Filippis Haircut at 11:28
Maybe includes U17s as well. Don’t doubt his findings, just interested to see who else might be on the list that I forgot about.
Mort
Celtic_First says:
18 November, 2011 at 11:16
The stats are interesting.
Police officers, of course, also deserve to be able carry out their work without abuse
……………………….
Why?
If they behave like Nazis (and only obeying orders doesn’t wash) at times they deserve abuse! We pay their not inconsiderable wages. They are Public Servants, not the Master!
It appears that the nation of England are not prepared to accept the apology given by Sepp Blatter regarding his recent faux pas with regards to racism on the field of play. I dare say that if his apology had been coupled with an offer for England to replace Qatar as world cup hosts his apology would have fully accepted
BOBBY MURDOCH
I laughed as well, once I stopped hitting the computer. :)
Big Joe
got 2 paracetamol after this one
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new article posted.
didn’t work
you’ll be fine
Gawd, not a stat debate now.
24 hours to a massive match. Wake up.
Adam RB, Joe LB
Otherwise same team as Fir Park.
Saint Patrick’s day is a public holiday on Montserrat, which any fule kno is in the Leeward Islands.
I believe from my old days of protesting and picketing that police are more likely, encouraged even, to report injuries etc.
And so the news would be, according to police briefing, 15 police officers injured (scraped knuckles included) but only 2 protestors hurt (incapacitated).
Greenjedi:
In theory at least but you would have to prove that the KKK were a group with a perceived religious affiliation. There would also have to be a statutory or common law offence committed first for it to be aggravated by religious prejudice. Mental, I know!
The only obvious offence I can see the police trying to charge Celtic fans with is breach of the peace and if we stick to the rebel songs without using the terms “IRA” or “Orange B” there is nothing they can do to us.
Craiginho
whitedoghunch says:
18 November, 2011 at 11:33
Big Joe
got 2 paracetamol after this one
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Thank %€~}^€ck I have my iPhone and can’t open that pic
I assume it’s carninge of the big toe variety
Bigjoe feeling no pain
According to the Scottish executive, 803,732 people in Scotland in 2011 self-identified as being Catholics.
The Section 74 stats suggest that each of these people had a one in 2009.33 chance of being the victim of a religiously aggravated offence.
For Protestants (read Church of Scotland and ‘other Christians’, which excludes RCs on the executive’s list), the total is 2,490,813.
Each of them had a one in 9845.11 chance of being the victim of a Section 74 offence. Therefore, Catholics are still 4.9 times more likely to be the victim of one of these offences.
This has come down since the 2004-2005 figures were analysed, but as mentioned, I would be interested to know what would happen to the stats if you excluded the police. I’m not saying you should exclude them, but I think it makes some difference in examining what all this means for Scottish society.
For example, in how many of the offences that did not go trial (15% of the total) was the victim a police officer? I bet the proportion is high.
VOGUE PUNTER 1124
Keep it down,old boy. There’s a lovely piece from Rachmaninoff going on here.
By the way,last ime I listened to R3- by accident-about six months ago,Pink Floyd’s Echoes (all twentyfive minutes of it) was on.
Definitely strange….
Estadio says:
18 November, 2011 at 11:27
Googybhoy
You responded for some reason to an earlier post of mine as follows….
Indeed had we been sharing a pint , I would rather I had a full pint of my own , you would have seen a glint in my eye. That may also have been dependant on the time and how many pints.
I was being facetious in my reply. I hope I spelt that big word right.
Any way I emailed SNP govt last night.asking why Scotland has no major cultural celebration of Irish culture around St.Patricks Day.
Their reply was that they were promoting St.Andrews Day.
hamiltontim
Ki trained yesterday and will be assessed later today, so says Laura Brannan. She didn’t say if he’d be wearing his trackie.
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It’s been a While..
But..
Strange But True..
Rangers to provide Hindi football match commentary on Twitter to ‘attract’ Indian ‘interest’
Glasgow, Nov 18 : Football club Rangers are set to make their presence felt in the lucrative Indian market by providing match commentary in Hindi on the social networking site Twitter.
The plan will be unveiled with the coverage of Rangers match against St Johnstone, and football fans will be able to track the action by following @rfc_hindi on Twitter.
The move comes in the wake of the club gearing up to take Indian stars Sunil Chhetri and Jeje Lalpekhlua on trial this month.
“We are attracting interest globally. A Rangers delegation will visit India later this month to meet key officials from the Indian Premier League,” the Sun quoted Gers” Chief Operating Officer Ali Russell, as saying.
“The club already has links to India thanks to the Rangers Charity Foundation”s partnership with UNICEF. There are undoubted opportunities for Rangers in the Asian market,” he added.
The plan follows footsteps of Manchester United and Chelsea, which command huge foreign fan support.
Rangers have drawn attention in the US after American players Carlos Bocanegra and Alejandro Bedoya joined the team at Ibrox.
India, which has over 1.2 billion population, is likely to be the promising market for Rangers.
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OK..After you Have all Stopped Laughing..Name the Commentator..
Summa
The media will be scrutinising every cough and sneeze of the support in Inverness.
Perhaps we could go on the offensive with a banner saying something like
HOLLY AND DIANE FALLON RIP
STRATHCLYDE POLICE
HEADS MUST ROLL
Shortarse (aka Whiteinch Bear) and his bosses could maybe be asked justify how they chose to deploy the resources at their disposal.
I am mainly going by second-had evidence, but from what I understand of those who attended the Fans Against Criminalisation demo/rally in George Square a few weeks ago there was a police helicopter overhead and attendees who mainly went on to the match were escort by a large body of police—some mounted?—and when this rather aggressive policing failed to evince any reaction the police stepped up their aggression by confrontational policing of a targeted section of fans in section 111 of the stadium.
Having watched and listened to Assistant Chief Constable of Strathclyde Police, Campbell Corrigan, I can’t believe that he is behind this. He comes across as a sort of bumbling, but nice chap (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQJtQcMcYmU what do you think?) and this leads me to believe that he is being manipulated by his ambitious boss Stephen House who was after the job of C.C. of the Met when all of this escalation kicked off.
Yet House never appears on the screen and I suspect he will not do so unless he can get a result. But a result for what? Defeating the sectarian scourge in Scottish football? Two young lads holding up a banner with the word Huns on it isn’t exactly a threat to law and order as we know it. But for whatever reason we see the video-camera equipped cops constantly in the face of a small group of Celtic fans who in this morning’s Daily Record are described as causing Corrigan his “main concern is over the more militant Green Brigade” which necessitates “a crack team of specially trained officers will be deployed to Inverness tomorrow.”
I was at the Hibs game on the day of incident that caused so much concern to Glasgow’s finest that they charged the crowd and then reported Celtic to Uefa and the only people who should have been charged that day were the Celtic players; charged with taking money under false pretences!
This whole thing is not about singing or RA chants, this is a contrivance which is all about SNP election politics seized on by the Chief Constable of Glasgow who thinks he is able to put on his C.V. that he smashed the PIRA supporting Celtic splinter group the Green Brigade, just like his famous predecessor Percy Sillitoe.
But all of the lurid headlines that are being concocted cannot make what is happening now with a bunch of good and vocal youngsters who are harming no one, compare in any way shape or form with what happened back in the 1930’s when the then Chief Constable of Glasgow Percy Sillitoe smashed the vicious Glasgow razor gangs and used his fame for this act as a stepping stone to go on to much greater things.
The police would be better spending their time on real crime and anyone thinking of going to Inverness might be better staying at home and not contributing to this parody of policing.
‘Til Sillitoe scuffs the razor down the stank’
I can’t see House being immortalised in a poem.
SoT,
“My time as a UK taxpayer overlaps with all of the above —– do I have a direct responsibility for the things listed above ? Do you ? Do Celtic ? Do Rangers ? Do all UK taxpayers. ? If you didn’t pay tax can you claim it wuznae me ?.”
Well we know rangers dont, because they dont pay their taxes, struggling to understand why so called Celtic supporters cant admit that rangers jingoistic hypocracy is leaves them wide open to accusations of undermining the very fundamental claim of the quintessential british club. The soldiers they parade around the pitch are reliant on charity because of tax evasion and rangers are a serious offender, no ?
mickbhoy1888 & eurochamp67 lickspitles making excuses