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Neil, the 10 and the rest of us

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On five different occasions I told one of the two men who decide the fate of the Celtic manager that I thought it was time for a change.  Memorably, on one occasion, I was told, “Get a grip of yourself”.  I did not always get a response as, despite how I feel about Celtic, a manager’s fate is a private matter.

On none of those occasions did I write on CQN that the manager should be sacked.  If I was an impartial observer, that would be different, but my objective is always to see Celtic flourish and I considered the effect a campaign to sack the manager would have on results, our league challenge and, in on one occasion, the man himself.

The impact of these campaigns falls disproportionately on that individual, often when they are at their most emotionally vulnerable.  It hurts when those once close to you want you out, you look harder for motivation and as for focussing a dressing room!

Those who make the decisions are less emotionally vulnerable.  They usually have years of experience shielding themselves from being buffered by adverse sentiment, if they didn’t, they would not be able to do the job.  They alone know their options and they are never blind to the consequences of failure.  They do not always get it right.

We cannot show our support for the players or the manager at games and they will not be meeting fans in the street; all sentiment is delivered by media, new and old.  This is the only communication we have and I know the players consume what is written online this season.  This sentiment is not to blame for bad results, but it will not help resolve the situation.

Celtic are low percentage bets to win the league and I want the players, manager and board to take whatever steps necessary to change this, it is not too late. Nothing would give me more pleasure than Neil Lennon bringing us 10-in-a-row, it would be the ultimate way to achieve an historic record.  If he gets there, the rest of us will have a role in making it happen.

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  1. I think some people are failing to register the importance to many fans of the importance of 10IAR, including Chris Sutton and of course some of the current crop of players. This is a unique opportunity, it’s a kind of prize that is historic for many Celtic fans. But it is in jeopardy and that calls for visible signs that the problem is understood and is being addressed. There are no signs unfortunately. The GB banner and statement weren’t disrespectful but they made it clear they wanted NL to go. There was no real alternative to that way of stating their view. The statements that NL has made, his actions and those of his coaches on the pitch don’t suggest major changes are forthcoming or even that the malaise is understood and rangers or whatever you want to call them are progressing. Who would come in if NL goes and will he turn things around.? Hard to say but Man United and Arsenal are perhaps instructive. Of course the EPL is a different animal but still worth contemplating the significance of changing managers when the problems obviously lie deeper. I think the only alternative at this point is to keep NL but let him choose the coaches he thinks can do a job and the players will respect. Otherwise we might get a change of manager but no guarantee of success. And then what?

  2. ONENIGHTINLISBON on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 12:20 PM

     

    JERSEYBHOYS on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 12:17 PM

     

     

     

     

    Totally agree, I have said for weeks that this guy is just a keyboard bully. Should be some sanctions in place to at least warn him surely?

     

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    Don’t entertain this JB troll. You are giving him the oxygen he craves. Someone advised you yesterday but you’ve ignored him. He’s not your pal and he’s no friend of Celtic. Last I intend to say on the matter.

  3. How exactly has NL been treated badly by the fans.

     

     

    I think the games a bogey when your captain says we need to play for the manager .

     

     

    Agree with James Forrest that NL should have been sacked after Prague game. The score actually flattered us that night

  4. Sutton. The same guy who threw in the towel against the huns at ibrox and got himself booked twice and subsequently sent off to leave us with 9 men.

  5. JAMES FORREST on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 2:37 PM

     

     

    Many of us on here had grave reservations about NFL being given the job on a permanent basis. Personally I wanted a clean break with the past and someone to replicate the stature and professionalism of BR.

     

     

    However we accepted the decision and welcomed the continued success and a historic treble treble. As you say we invested financially in very large numbers.

     

     

    It could be debated that when we parted with our ST money for the new season we never thought for a moment that we would not get into Parkhead for the full season.

     

     

    Anyway, our current uncertainty for ongoing success doesn’t justify an embarrasing public humilation of our manager.

     

    Change is inevitable, entitlement is not.

     

     

    HH to you.

  6. onenightinlisbon on

    This idea that Celtic fans are spoiled and feel entitled……

     

     

    Why would we not expect our team to reach the highest standards?

     

     

    Why should be remain silent when they don’t?

     

     

    If being spoiled and entitled means you want the best for your team then times have changed…

  7. Bhoy From The Boyne on

    Watched the full 11+ mins of NL presser. You can see he has some contempt being asked and unhappy fans, banner etc. He looks away from the reporters asking at times. Just my opinion. I try to take some hope but its the same message coming out all season. Nothing new to be learned from today….we wait and see on the pitch in month ahead.

  8. GREENPINATA:

     

     

    I think they could have done it differently, but only if fans had been allowed in the grounds.

     

     

    The thing is though, I think if fans had been allowed in grounds he might have been gone the night the Prague game because 60,000 people would have let him and the board know, in no uncertain terms, how they felt about the fall in standards.

     

     

    There would be much worse shouted at him, and them, than was on that banner.

  9. Onenightinlisbon

     

    Nail on the head mate

     

    We are financially in a two team league.

     

    At the moment it’s them, not us.

     

    We need to find out how to restore it to us.

  10. SAINTSTIVS

     

    What is the significance of the photo you posted at 2:56? Thanks.

     

    SFTB

     

    The Cheap Trick number that usually brought the house down in Japan was the old Fats Domino song “Ain’t That a Shame?” Particularly apt in the context of today’s blog, no?

  11. INIQUITOUSIV on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 3:36 PM

     

    SAINTSTIVS

     

     

     

     

    What is the significance of the photo you posted at 2:56? Thanks.

     

     

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    none, just a copy and paste so that ic ould get logged in,

     

     

    it is kilburnie

  12. GEEBEE1978

     

     

    It was more a general point on the wafer thin lne of margins that can make all the difference.

     

     

    Sacking any manager is a high risk tactic, Get it wrong and then you are really in the brown stuff.

     

     

    Warbutto to Pedro springs to mind

  13. onenightinlisbon on

    SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 3:30 PM

     

    and if spoiled and entitled means stamping your feet and scweaming, I’ll do that too

     

     

    Expressing an opinion, criticising, not being spoiled or entitled.

  14. onenightinlisbon on

    MARKIEBHOY on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 3:33 PM

     

     

    Never an easy call to change things mid season but in my opinion, not stamping any feet, it has to be done.

     

     

    Broonie saying “we need to start playing for the manager” – culture change?

  15. Onenightinlisbon.

     

    I believe that at the moment we can still win the 10.

     

    Each game in the current circumstances reduces the chances

     

    until I believe in 2 or 3 weeks it will be gone.

  16. onenightinlisbon on

    MARKIEBHOY on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 3:47 PM

     

     

    100%. I too think the 10 is achievable but have my doubts with the present set up.

  17. Chris Sutton is guilty of hypocrisy in calling the Green Brigade idiots and saying they are disrespectful to Neil. He never stopped putting the boot into Ronny Deila, even long after he had left.

  18. onenightinlisbon on

    79CAPS on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 3:50 PM

     

     

    Sutton talks sense on a lot of Celtic related issues but is completely blind to the failings of Neil Lennon. His criticism and attitude towards Ronny was verging on a personal crusade.

  19. Morning ..well it is here…

     

     

    I hope the team turn this round & start producing the performances & results that we know are within them. This is not just one or two players playing below par, or even injuries to Julien & Forrest.

     

    Whatever ails the group or individuals HAS to be used to galvanize & build morale.

     

    This means that THEY alone have the solution to where we find ourselves.

     

    The club & Neil want the fans to believe in them, well, the players & the coaching staff have to show us that THEY believe in one another. Talk is fine but it’s the outcomes on the field that matter.

     

    Poor results – by our own standards – are one thing, but that is not the only thing that’s destabilised the relationship between supporters & the team/coaching staff.

     

     

    The reciprocal nature of our relationship with the players means that both sides need the every thing that can often be double edged. Players want fan attention – unless their form drops. Fans favour particular players – until they start playing poorly or otherwise step outside the bubble the fans reserve for them.

     

     

    We are all responsible for whatever part we play in this Celtic network, but regaining our belief & form will not mean that all of this implosion can be forgotten. Whatever way this plays out from now until the end of the season, the club must look at how they allowed things to get to this state – from what seemed like a position of dominance. They need a serious review of how we function & how we are structured.

     

     

    Thanksgiving here tomorrow – and for those not familiar with it, many folk in the USA at this time of the year openly reflect on what they have to be genuinely grateful for: health, wealth, happiness etc.

     

    Among the things I’m grateful for, Celtic & all the joy & happiness it brings to me & my family always features.

     

     

    Have a good one.

  20. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Hhmm. Might just step out for 24 hours.

     

     

    Pablo – give us a shout when “Sparta vs Celtic Live updates” gets posted?

     

     

    🙂

     

     

    Am genuinely ambivalent about the current manager.

     

     

    I’ve seen superior managers leave.

     

     

    I’ve witnessed inferior managers in the role.

     

     

    There’s risk in retaining Neil Lennon

     

    (recent form is mediocre)

     

     

    There’s risk in bringing in a new guy

     

    (can’t readily recall a new approach and tactics being implemented without short term pain and an impact to results?)

     

     

    Among the opinions & predictions dressed up as facts …. I’d respectfully remind the blog of these real facts.

     

     

    In his second spell as manager, (21 months) Neil Lennon has contested 5 domestic trophies.

     

     

    He has won 4 and is one game away from winning the 5th.

     

     

    Under his stewardship our team went into the second half of last season behind Sevco in the league having suffered a home defeat to them after (opinion) a fairly insipid performance.

     

     

    His team delivered significantly better results from January and pulled away to easily win the league.

     

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Keep The Faith

  21. Paul67

     

     

    The Hearts Cup final was significant last time we had an appointment, maybe so again?

     

     

    I hope Neil rides it out with the support of those that said he was ‘a shoe in’ last time, his record isn’t a reason for calling for his head, he’s delivered all three winnable tournaments he could, its still the ‘didn’t want him in the first place supporters’ that are unreconciled and in invisible baying mob.

     

     

    More concerned with what happened to the Kieran Tierney money during the last three transfer windows?

     

     

    It’s too late this season to make a case for restructuring for the ten, and temporary managers never won anything unless of course you count Neil Lennon and his two successful stints as just that.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  22. FANADPATRIOT on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 3:16 PM

     

    I hear there are still people who want Lenny to stay ,but they are as rare as hens teeth .Just saying 🤷🏻‍♂️

     

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    Are they. What information do you base that comment on,many of us don’t buy the Daily Record or listen to

     

    the likes of Quisling Hugh .

  23. SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 3:17 PM

     

    Dinosaurs have a mindset??

     

    Where do you get a Psychiatrist’s couch big enough for a T-rex? :-

     

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    T-rexs don’t go to psychiatrists, they go to metal gurus

  24. onenightinlisbon on

    Just watched Tommy sheridan on ACSOM.

     

     

    That guy has passion without any shadow of a doubt. Defended the manager to the hilt.

     

     

    I don’t agree with him but could not fail to be impressed by him.

  25. Apart from Rod, what strikes me is ` Slim` Jim. He looks more like Big Jimmy after fifteen pints !

  26. ERSEYBHOYS on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 12:17 PM

     

    JERSEYBHOYS on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 8:46 AM

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The cock still at it

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    L

     

     

     

     

     

     

    YOU and your TWO Boy Friends are very welcome to attend the next HOOT…Now wouldnt that be something IF any of you dared to turn up ?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Paul 67 – can we remove this homophobic bully from the blog? Language like hun, bitch, now he is question ing my sexuality. My 2 daughters read this blog. Disgusting individual

     

     

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    Just catching up on today’s events.

     

     

    Jerseybhoy – if your daughters read the blog why would you say such a thing and use such language as above?

     

    Shocking language if your daughters read this blog.

     

     

    i wonder if there is more than 1 red card needed here.

     

     

    D :)

  27. What is the story re the Banner?

     

    Have the Green Brigade claimed it as theirs?

     

    I have only seen a picture of a sheet with` Lennon and Duffy GTF`painted on it. It does not resemble any of the GB`s stuff I have seen at Celtic Park.

  28. Just in from work and hear the GB are protesting with ‘lennon out banner”…this is just embarrassing!, …..short memories. Wether you want lenny out or in this is just embarassing. Talk about hunnish behaviour

  29. 67 European Cup Winners on

    BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 25TH NOVEMBER 2020 4:09 PM

     

    I went out in a T shirt and shorts today

     

    Bloody freezing

     

    The previous 5 times I went out it was sunny

     

    What’s going on ???

     

     

    Because it was sunny yesterday does not mean it will be sunny tomorrow

     

     

    67ECW

  30. Argentinian football legend Diego Armando Maradona has passed away after suffering a heart attack.

  31. lets all do the huddle on

    Diego Maracona has died, according to reports in Argentina

     

     

     

    just heard that

     

     

    a true legend