“Decapitated” was the word Hearts manager Robbie Neilson suggested would be necessary for a Celtic red card after a challenge by Alexandro Bernabei on Wednesday night. Why he thought it was necessary, or helpful, to add invective language to the ether ahead of Saturday’s Scottish Cup quarterfinal is a puzzle.
Whatever his desired outcome, he has reason to ponder before giving Celtic players a cause to rally against again. The game was clearly a no-contest before Aaron Mooy converted Jota’s cross inside two minutes at Tynecastle. Hearts were lucky to escape with just the three-goal deficit.
You can train players all week, but send them into their 42nd game of the season and getting absolute sharpness from the same voice can be a challenge. Footballers are not machines, they can only climb the mountain so many times before it feels like another hill walk.
When Neilson picked on a young player, still settling in Scotland, it gave his team-mates a cause célèbre. Ange Postecoglou had an opportunity to proverbially pin the Hearts manager’s words to the dressing-room wall. It was a rookie mistake from an experienced manager.
You and I have seen Inverness, Falkirk and Newco take us out at the semi-final stage of the Scottish Cup. Maybe we should shout for Ayr United tonight?
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Tontine
Aye indeed. Mrs BRRB late Dad worked for them. Patrick Sweeney, a real Donegal gentleman.
Canamalar.
As i keep repeating ask an Snp voter about the fascist leanings of their founders
Now as i repeated in 1920/30s eugenics/racism riddled all parties.your preferred option had Oswald Moseley,Britains best known fascist was a member of the labour movement.
I gave you eg of Merlyn Rees,1976
Ask if you have any problem with my logic.
Do not contrive it into a little box so you can comfortably ‘other’ those who say your fartin.
Tell me that racism you portray.did it murder any iraqis? Eh? Explain that humanely and i would look into voting for them.After that maybe
Gordi and nationalizing of Bank Debt overseeing the biggest transfer of wealth from poor to rich.bank debt exponentially grown under a noosocialist gov.
We can only go on democracy and see where a vote takes us.i wonder what socialisty fascist rubber eared such dissent and sent the missiles
in anyway.
HH
Unique Angle
https://youtu.be/SfotsDnzpks
HH
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 13TH MARCH 2023 1:53 PM
MELVIN UDALL on 13TH MARCH 2023 1:36 PM,
Was commented on by a few, I also seen it commented on in the CTV commentary.
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Cheers.
Just another in the long line of stonewallers we’ve been denied and they still can’t stop us! 😃👍🏻🍀
TONTINE / BRRB
sweeneys,quinns,Gallagher and O’Donnell were 4 clans i know.The odonnells crowned their chiefs at Doon Rock from back in time until the planters came.its at times like this the knowledge of exposter Cathach is much missed.
HH
Por Cierto – Thanks – that’s of course what I meant :)
AT,
Its you that keeps making sweeping generalisations and pigeon holing people.
I’m an Irish Unionist, got a problem with the terminology, deal with it, I do not accept anyone else’s attempts to pigeon hole or impose their terminology on my views.
You rant about what’s happening to social services like the NHS ignoring the fact that the same party you lambast were responsible for every social service that is now being decimated, and none of those could have happened without Britain being united. It would never have happened in an independent Scotland, lets be honest, or an independent England. but lets not let the real facts get in the way of your eternally negative ranting on only your cherry picked selections.
If I remember right, you even had a problem with Corbyn who IMO was the last vestige of a socialist Labour party, and was anti-war and anti-colonialism.
It’s easy to find problems everywhere with anyone, what I note is you have provided no solutions or suggestions for improvement beyond breaking up a union, in the English/Scottish case, it was voluntary to let the failed attempt at Scottish colonialization and cover the debt incurred for that attempt.
So for clarity can you tell me what you actually stand for rather than what you don’t like?
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION
You can’t buy luck like that. Eh?
MELVIN UDALL on 13TH MARCH 2023 2:17 PM,
Yep that’s the best bit, try as they might, they can do nothing about it :oD))
AT re: time travel
Didn’t read his entire verbal diarrhea post as I was in too good of a mood. He attacked me for my wee Celic app of years gone by and I reacted. Silly me.
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WEEJOE re: predictive text.
It does correct the strangest words on occasion.
Vale bhoy,
:oD)))
If he was in Iceland he would not be collecting the £200 on his way to jail.
Ron Bacardi
Where are you, ya ould rascal? Fancy a trip to sunny Glasgow on 25th March?
RIP Alice Sheridan
AN TEARMANN on 13TH MARCH 2023 2:28 PM
TONTINE / BRRB
sweeneys,quinns,Gallagher and O’Donnell were 4 clans i know.
*here’s a wee bit of useless trivia for you, my da was 1st generation Scottish, his mother came fae Connemara, the parish of Ballyconneely tae be precise, where she is buried, the diaspora in Dumbarton predominately hail hail from there and up in the People’s Republic of Brucehill, where my in-laws hail hail from, they jokingly paraphrase Bing Crosby in the “Bells of St Mary’s” by saying if you need help just dial O for O’Malley.
Now I have been over in Connemara several times and researched for a long time and can’t find the reason, other than where they were on the cattle boat, for them descending in that wee rebel town.
Now out in the Vale of Leven where I was born and bred the diaspora there is predominately Donegal and that can be put down to the discovery that the water in the River Leven was full of the minerals, from Loch Lomond, that were extremely beneficial to silk dyeing and printing, the companies mainly employed women as the only jobs for men were in the maintenance of the machinery so at first the girls made there way there from the likes of Argyll and Perthshire, victims of the Highland Clearances, and also Lennoxtown which had a similar industry but the Vale works paid higher and was more long standing.
Now one of the owners had a holiday home in Donegal and noticed that young Irish girls tended to marry quite late in life as they stayed home to help their mothers, so he approached the Parish Priest for help in procuring them and any who were already wed could find jobs for their spouses in farms or public works.
The first dye works was in the wee holy village of Renton and the famed Renton Road, between there and Dumbarton was built by Donegal navvies, as was the railway tunnel under Cardross Road, where orange Dumbarton, at the time, was infiltrated by navvies from the Renton and that other holy village Duntocher, fresh from blasting through the rock on the Great Western Road.
Finally, if any of you are ever in Balloch and fancy a cruise up Loch Lomond, well try Sweeney’s Cruises as the originator of that fine company was headhunted while working as a boat boy for the same dye works owner.
Melvin Udall,
Re Halliday tackle on Johnston, it is 100% a penalty, its actually quite a bad foul and would merit a yellow anywhere else on the pitch. It’s pretty scandalous it wasnt looked at, but not exactly surprising.
TJ
Really interesting chat at the top of this thread about our Champions League potential. I cant disagree that making a dent in the competition proper is a really, really tall order.
The structure of the CL and the finances available to teams from the top 5 leagues just seems too much. Even those outside the top 5 are getting fees from English clubs of £80-100 million for the likes of Darwin Nunez and Anthony, as Ajax and Benfica received.
As SFTB noted, Sevilla, Ajax, Benfica, Shakhtar, Porto and a few others from outside the top five leagues have managed to get deep into the knockouts, and it seems to me that if it will ever happen for us, it will happen under Ange.
A tight, hugely committed group, with a clear identity, modern style of play and ambitious young(ish) players is exactly the profile of team to have an outside chance of over reaching. It would take a fair wind and a decent draw for once, though every draw would be difficult of course.
One or two top tier additions this summer, similar to the Jota and CCV signings would help.
And we would need one of our players to really breakout and put their stamp on the group games. They are all excellent talents but do Reo, Kyogo or Jota have another level in their game to be consistently decisive in CL matches. I think yes, and my money would be on the latter to raise his level higher on the biggest stage.
TJ
Words you don’t often hear on this blog,or many other Celtic blogs,
“I am an Irish Unionist”
More suited to scum blogs,I would have thought,only thing missing is No Surrender.
Maybe it just needs re-phrased.
So a united Ireland is not something many Celtic supporters don’t want then, news to me.
Its pretty simple really, an Irish Unionist wants a united Ireland, the word unionist is not owned by anyone.
A few years ago a team did make a big impact in the CL.A French team.Think it might have been Nice.A team of players who just seemed to come together at the right time.Quarters,or Semis,can’t remember,but similar style to what we are watching now.Of course that brilliant run caused the destruction of that team,as most of the players were bought by the Elite the next year.
It can happen.Not often.
Turkeybhoy
Not sure which French team you are thinking of.
Nice have never made it to a CL Group stage. Best I can see is last 32 Europa where they were knocked out or last 16 Conference.
Lille did make it to last 16 of CL last year, qualifying top of a weakish group (Seville, Wolfsburg and Salzburg) but Celtic have a better overall record of Euro achievement than them. They have Timothy Weah and the Canadian Jonathan Davis playing for them. Lille and Nice are currently 6th and 7th in Ligue 1 and unlikely to even make CL this season
Was it no Lyon ?
Lille did manage to sell 3 players for big sums last summer
Botman to Newcastle for £27m
Celik to Roma for £19m
Yazici to Trabzonspor £16m
Onana to Everton- £9.5m
Not sure how well they are doing
They bought 8 players with this money , one £11m and one £6,6m- the rest were £4 or under
AT,
C-Its you that keeps making sweeping generalisations and pigeon holing people.
AT.- sweeping generalisations of fascist behaviour on behalf of the union you mean like
1.Merlyn Rees 1976 Ulsterization process.
2.like the displacement and and murderbombing of iraq.
Is 2 examples of truth to be going on with
No generalisations or needless pigeon holing.
Its true lol.
C- I’m an Irish Unionist, got a problem with the terminology, deal with it, I do not accept anyone else’s attempts to pigeon hole or impose their terminology on my views.
AT na your just a confused socialist from Partick now livin in middle east who calls himself an irish unionist.You defend your British Unionism at all times.you are not and never will be an irish unionist but your contraryism is comical. You call yoursel what you want.your politics are of union
Mines are not.so be a bit of everything C but as you point out it will end always in some form of unionism
i do understand the confused socialism,its the energy that drives the left alas it too gets drawn into the racist rights agenda .it is common as wee keev shoows
C-You rant about what’s happening to social
C’services like the NHS ignoring the fact that the same party you lambast were responsible for every social service that is now being decimated, and none of those could have happened without Britain being united.
AT- rant- lol cannae recall last time posted bout nhs,but you keep pursuing your ‘othering’ and yup i do know the union you so admire has cut continually.
Your missing the point C,the nhs is being decimated by whichever unionists are in.The rollback of capital going on since Denis Healey introduced monetarism in 1976,oops he was lab too,those sociialists really do go full schizo in power.The ending of post war keynesian concencus it was known of it Economic terms
All Britain United does is increase debt.
Borrowing on future generations,you can keep that boast til they stop cussin you
C-It would never have happened in an independent Scotland, lets be honest,
At – lets be dishonest you mean re what your unionist establishment said re Brexit and all it British Nationalism.as i said veering and cowtowing to an irrational right wing concept.
C- or an independent England
At- let democracy decide what they do.Your union does not like democracy,check out how even up to today irish unionists° react to it
° real ones,not Partick born middle eastern residents who self label ;-))
C. but lets not let the real facts get in the way of your eternally negative ranting on only your cherry picked selections.
AT- painting that stereotype badly again,ranting
No cherry picking at all C,a memory tho passed on of greenmouth(from eating grass)evictions and death all at the hands of a union i will do everything to smash it…peacefully:-)
C-If I remember right, you even had a problem with Corbyn who IMO was the last vestige of a socialist Labour party, and was anti-war and anti-colonialism.
At-i think you remember incorrectly C.i had no problem with Jeremy Corbyn.so lets apply sphincter there.i agree wi you re Jc
On this blog it was Galloway fluff JHB who labelled jez ‘a commie’ you missed that am sure,that was before the racist would not decry those impeding rescue services like the rnli
C-It’s easy to find problems everywhere with anyone, what I note is you have provided no solutions or suggestions for improvement beyond breaking up a union,
AT- its easy because there are.regardless if you are prounion like or want to cede from that corruption.Its down to the vote and what people vote for,like 2014.we adapt.it doesnt stop me looking to break with your union as soon as democracy says its ok
C-in the English/Scottish case, it was voluntary to let the failed attempt at Scottish colonialization and cover the debt incurred for that attempt.
AT-it was a little more complex than the Darien scandal but i see where your goin,and democracy did not play a part in it at all
As an ayrshie mason wrote they were bought and sold for english gold
C-So for clarity can you tell me what you actually stand for rather than what you don’t like?
At – does that matter to you? You will follow your good little unionist ‘othering’ protocols to box and stereotype anyway.you cant help yourself.
I must be them,that,the other.na
I am a first generation Scottish Catholic who want to cede from your union,who is here to post of Celtic.hope your well.
HH
TOMMY JOAD on 13TH MARCH 2023 3:40 PM
Melvin Udall,
Re Halliday tackle on Johnston, it is 100% a penalty, its actually quite a bad foul and would merit a yellow anywhere else on the pitch. It’s pretty scandalous it wasnt looked at, but not exactly surprising.
TJ
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Exactly! Not a whiff of review anywhere then or now.
Cheat as they may, they can’t stop the Ange Express!
Really looking forward to next season’s Champions League. We will draw at least two massive/well funded teams (RB Leipzig a case in point) from Pots 1&2 and hopefully get a bit of luck with the Pot 3 team. Although, there are some daunting manners in that pot as well now.
If it wasn’t for that clown Mudryk, we’d have beaten Shaktar at least one of the games.
Loads more experience, cohesion, adaptability with Ange’s systems and as strong a squad as I can ever remember, all bodes well for a good crack at it again next year. Might try to get up for one of the home games.
😃🍀🍀🍀
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 13TH MARCH 2023 4:28 PM
Turkeybhoy
Not sure which French team you are thinking of.
Nice have never made it to a CL Group stage. Best I can see is last 32 Europa where they were knocked out or last 16 Conference.
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SFTB you are a stats machine!
Where to you get all these stats from and so quickly?
You’ve either got some memory, an unbelievably fast way to search for this stuff or a massive file of stats at the ready.
Your stuff is brilliant btw. Really enjoy your posts. 😃👍🏻🍀
Meanwhile on celtic quick news channel……
I was kinda puzzled too Paul that Neilson chose to inflame emotions with his remarks last Wednesday. A bit of the Craig Levein syndrome maybe, some kind of provincial arrogance. I was more shocked by what he said actually, coming from a Hearts manager whose team have been playing physical against us for 20 years at least. Before that in the 70’s and 80’s they wouldn’t dare try to outmuscle us. And as you rightly say choosing to highlight wee Bernabei! Looks very calculated. Not surprised to see mini huns criticising Argentinians. Very unprofessional of Neilson, reminds me of Slippy calling out Ryan Porteous, really snidey.
Celtic & Hibs United CSC
Cracking video from a young Tim YouTuber who was at the game on Saturday:
https://youtu.be/Mq_2wMHeu4Y
Give the young lad some views by clicking on and sharing the link when you’ve watched it. 😃👍🏻🍀
Lyon makes more sense, they made a CL semi 2019/20 but I don’t think they are a true comparator club. They are ranked 26 in Europe and no.2 in France. They paid £16m for our best player – Dembele- so they are a predator club for us. We’d be as well comparing ourselves to Dortmund, Spurs, Roma or Valencia.
Lyon made CL Group stage 12 seasons in a row from 2000, mostly by direct entry. They missed out on CL for 3 seasons 2012-15 before making CL in 4 of the past 6 seasons. Since 2000 they have finished 4th in CL Group on one occasion, 3rd on 4 occasions (they did not do much in Europa except one season where they were knocked out at S-F stage-2017), they finished 2nd in CL on 8 occasions (going out at last 16 stage 6 times- in 2010- they made it to CL S-F and the same stage in 2020, losing to Bayern on both occasions. They finished top of their CL Group on 4 occasions- (all in a row from 203- 2006, as a result they got to Q-F for 3 seasons and a last 16 knock out in1)
This is a vastly superior European record than ours. In that time we have played them 4 times, losing 3 of the ties and winning one; Sevco have done slightly better with one win and a draw in 4 ties).
In addition to the 22m Euro fee they claim to have paid for Dembele, they have topped that fee on 6 occasions and have bought around 25 players for more than we paid for Edouard. Again we need to compare with truly comparable clubs with a record of recent achievement similar to ours.
Melvin Udall
Sadly it is no longer a good memory.
There are a lot of sites where you can get football stats quite readily, Transfermarkt, Footy Stats etc; but Google and Wikipedia can give you readily classified info.
I look up “Celtic FC in European football” often and you get a season by season outline plus some condensed stats such as our record against teams from specific countries. You can do the same for most teams- you can quickly get “Lille FC in European football” or “Lyon FC in European football” in seconds with the stuff summarised.
I tend to use the 21st century stats as our comparator as it is post-Bosman and post- the hegemony of Big 5 leagues. Using our 66-74 stats would only skew the picture and, to be really honest, as we are now in 2023, The past 100-15 years only should be used as in that time, bigger clubs and bigger leagues have started to treat the Europa League more seriously and it is hard for the likes of us to get to finals. I was amazed that Sevco (And, to an extant, Frankfurt) made it to the final last year and came within a tired Kent shot of winning it.
That should give us hope but the overall stats show that it is hard to do this. I would settle happily for a CL Group qualification and a bit of luck in our last 16 tie. Anything else would be a bonus.
The past 10-15 years
Tommy Joad…………Interesting reading your comments regarding Celtic’s chances of making a proper dent in Europe all we have to do is put away our greentinted glasses and look accross the city at our nearest rivals. It can be done.
They reached the Europa final taking some big scalps in the process and probably should have beaten Eintracht Frankfurt in the final before allowing the game to go to a penalty shootout. Newco then qualified for the Champions Lge group stage going the difficult route of the qualifiers disposing of Eindhoven in thhe playoff to get there under Giovanni VB, who incidently got a raw deal on account of his results against Celtic
. So no doubt it can be done if don’t keep losing to European minnows from Denmark, Norway and Hungary etc.
The League Championship in Portugal would be considered weak but the top clubs are getting ridiculous money for players they have scouted in Brazil who impress when they play in Europe and strenghten their teams with this huge transfer money.
I have great hopes for progress under Ange particularly in Europe providing we can retain our best players with additions and of course mannage to keep Ange at Celtic Park..
13 years ago today
The Greatest Celt
https://twitter.com/CelticFC/status/1635236473917014017?t=Xjui14ZxL59zEKG_33zZ5w&s=19
HH
TONTINE
Thanks for the post on Renton and how the diaspora landed.i have been around those hills.A few years back i was cyclin coast rd in north near Torr head,some of the fisherment there said genetations ago they would fish to the mouth of the Clyde.
I recall being over the Greenock Cut water dams around the time i was reading John Kellys book Irish detailing the movement of the diaspora,i was looking down on the Clyde.could well picture the “boats of faces” with rowing boats packed full of folk getting away from An Gorta Mor
re the Names.Its been suggested i replace Quinn with Boyle as one of the names of Donegal
That game was it 3-1 glasgow cup final bout 71 or 72? Think the league was done.nothin for hunny that year :-))
HH
an tearmann
No mention of the McAteers big fellah?
And did the McLaughlins get a mention?
If no Tom won’t be happy
An Tearmann
I disagree young fella. The greatest ever Celt is James Edward McGrory. HH
I hope we get drawn against Newco efter the game Tonight.
It will likely be Bach to 1 ticket between me & Aidan.
I still have bruises on my left peg, although they are getting faint now. :)
Twas wan of the Best days Ever.
The Dump is a Sh!te venue as a spectacle for those Dani Bher but just being there when the newco was slain, wae the wee man. Priceless.
Evening all.
Just back from a lovely long weekend in the beautiful south west of Scotland, Portpatrick.
Great display, performance and crucially, result from the Bhoys on Saturday.
With Cheltenham in mind a wee trio of horsey related songs.
Echo & The Bunnymen – Bring on The Dancing Horses
https://youtu.be/V_bJf3foa5I
The Osmonds – Crazy Horses
https://youtu.be/iXcj8dFOd1E
KT Tunstall – Black Horse & The Cherry Tree
https://youtu.be/FGT0A2Hz-uk