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Regarding good cops and bad cops, I think that any reasonable person would agree that there are both sorts, but traditionally the Masons and OO types dominate IMHO.
This extract from a recent book entitled “Gangsters Killers and Me” by ex Det Sup Gerard Gallagher gives an insight into Glasgow’s finest:
“ Every morning at 8.30 a.m. there would be a meeting within the muster room of all on-duty personnel, to review the crimes and items of the preceding twenty-four hours. Superintendents, Chief Inspectors, Detective Chief Inspectors, uniform Shift Inspectors, Detective Inspectors etc.; all attended. The Divisional Commander and Deputy were the only real ranking officers who didn’t normally attend. When Detective Sergeants, Shift Sergeants, Community Officers and Detective Constables were factored in it was a fair sized audience.
The Saturday previously Celtic had clinched the 2000/2001 Scottish Football League and, as usual whenever this happened, irrespective of whether the winners were Celtic or Rangers, there followed instances of disorder.
The weekend crimes and offences were usually reviewed by one of the Detective Inspectors, and to assist this he would obtain a printout of the crimes. The printout was a synopsis only, and provided a time, date and location of the crime as well as the MO involved. If an arrest had been made the name, address and date of birth of the person charged were included. That was it.
The Detective Inspector when reviewing these crimes began with the words, ‘I see there were a lot of Catholics locked up at the weekend.’ I was thunderstruck. I’d known him for about fifteen years and had worked with him on enquiries when we held lesser rank, and had played football with and against him. I had never imagined him to be a bigot, but here he was attributing a religion to someone, based solely on his interpretation of their name. He’d been unable to control his fury and bitterness simply because a team he didn’t support had won a league.
I waited and waited in vain for any of the officers, senior or equal in rank, to chastise him over the comment, but they sat in silence and by their silence afforded that comment their tacit approval. To this day, I still don’t know why someone who prides themselves on strength of character didn’t stand up and confront them all at that meeting, but I think that by that time I’d had a bellyful of their lies, false promises and glad-handing their friends.
A couple of officers indicated to me after the meeting was over that they’d been offended by the remark, and I think they were hoping I’d pursue the matter, but I’d fought enough battles in my career by that point, and all I wanted was to remove myself from their poisonous atmosphere.
Bigotry wasn’t practised, nor would it have been tolerated by my parents or the secular and religious teachers who’d been instrumental in my character formation. As a kid, when it came to football,. I went to watch the Partick Thistle team of George Niven, Sandy Brown, John Harvey, Hugh Tinney, David McParland, Ian ‘Cowboy’ Cowan et al.
As a police officer, the only thing that concerned me was that whoever I was working with wasn’t corrupt, would put in a decent shift, would go through the doors with me, and would be properly prepared to give evidence at judicial proceedings. Otherwise, I couldn’t have cared less had they been a gay, amputee, Taoist. It appeared my equanimity wasn’t shared. It was time to leave them breathing their sixteenth-century oxygen.
I applied again for transfer and wasn’t prepared to be dissuaded…………….
TBB
Too true. The quality (sic) of some of the left backs in the 80s is what made me appreciate the likes of Mahe and Nails as the HoopsLegends they are.
TBB
We did indeed have some really hopeless full backs in the 80s.
Did’nt Derek Whyte make his debut at left back as well?
Although not as bad as those you mentioned – he did go on to play about 270 games for us – he was imo a bit of a ‘bomb scare’ in a lot of the matches I saw him play.
Had a lovely tan ‘tho!
HH!!
Was working ( a few months ago) with a guy who lived in Ibrox. Asked him where he drank, he answered ” The Louden” I asked why he drank in Dennitoun and he replied ” no the Louden in Ibrox, there are 3 Loudens in Glasgow” all apparently owned by the same guy. He went on to tell me he didn’t bother with football. I think the one at Ibrox was very near his house and that’s why he drank there.
If I lived very near it I would move.
Jim Melrose & Brian Whittaker- two names to send a shudder down anyone old enough to have seen them embarass the hoops.
Derek Whyte wore ‘American Tan’ tights under his shorts. FACT!
Gordon_J
“Now how can we get the Sevco fans to read it and finally realise that their old club is dead?”
Well, dumb it down a lot first. Pictures, maybe?
Jim Melrose 30 games 7 goals !!
He only got the 30 games because Davie Hay persevered (to justify the transfers fee) at the time I think it was the most we had ever paid for a player.
My hazy memory was that Davie Hay favoured him over Brian McClair , BMcC would come off the bench to replace Melrose , score and still be on the bench the following week.
McClair scored 4 goals in a game twice in his few starts early that season ( Melrose was injured/suspended?) .
The following weeks Melrose was started started and McClaire was back on the bench.!!
Im afraid it coloured my opinion of Davie Hay for a long time
Eventually we got rid of Melrose and Brian McClair went on to score 99 goals in 145 starts.
The Onlooker
corkcelt
15:10 on
2 November, 2012
Re the Poppy debate, I don’t think anyone would have a problem with a Country honouring its war dead, but bringing it in on a compulsory level into sporting arenas is in my opinion wrong.
That. I have no problem with remembrance, but hate the obligatory nature of it, whether in sports or on TV news broadcasts. It should be a sincere and personal thing, not a public show. I used to occasionally wear a poppy, but not now; its meaning has been devalued, I think.
Mea Culpa
My mum was working in the co-op in Gibshill, Greenock when we won in Lisbon. The Co Bakery made a lovely commemorative cake- my mum’s boss (a woman) refused to display it- her reason- she was waiting for the Rankers one after the Cup Winners cup final the following week- it was never put on display in that shop- that were small minded and twisted then and remain so!
Big nan
In other ward DS Gallagher was a spineless cretin who acquiesced in the bigotry
If officers of his rank wouldn’t take a stand what chance for lesser ranked officers
Applied for a transfer and wasn’t prepared to be dissuaded ….how strong willed of him…running away …disgrace
Speaking of the Loudon in Duke street. My mate drives a hack and last year two huns flagged him down outside the pub. They happened to be decked out in red white and blue and were eating fish suppers.
‘where to guys?’ Joe said…
‘town mate’..they replied….
‘Ok lads but no wi them’ joe said straight faced…..
‘Ok buddy no problem’ said one of the huns and they both proceeded to toss the fish suppers into a bin….
Joe…….’I meant the scarves!’…
.he screeched off quick style.
hh
Hades ( /ˈheɪdiːz/; from Greek ᾍδης (older form Ἀϝίδης), Hadēs, originally Ἅιδης, Haidēs or Άΐδης, Aidēs (Doric Ἀΐδας Aidas), meaning “the unseen”[1]) was the ancient Greek god of the underworld. The genitive ᾍδου, Haidou, was an elision to denote locality: “[the house/dominion] of Hades”. Eventually, the nominative came to designate the abode of the dead. In Greek mythology, Hades is the oldest male child of Cronus and Rhea. According to myth, he and his brothers Zeus and Poseidon defeated the Titans and claimed rulership over the cosmos, ruling the underworld, air, and sea, respectively; the solid earth, long the province of Gaia, was available to all three concurrently.
-lifted from Wiki/EWLM/EWTB.
Ancient Greek god of the ole Gazebo is Samaras.
“Maley, from the Calton district of Glasgow, was one of 500 volunteers from Scotland (out of a total of 2,300 from the British Isles) ”
A large ratio of Scots. The other 1800 were probably not from Surrey.
cadizzy,
I’m sure I’ve got some crayons somewhere …
Derek Whyte was a better hairdresser’s model than he was a defender, and indeed, a better hairdresser than he was a football manager.
That’s quite unfair of me actually, he had a good football career, including getting a few caps for Scotland as I recall. Fair play to him.
It’s just that he had to leave Celtic to learn how to defend.
Its Friday afternoon!
The Huns are dead, just taking time for their chicken sized brain to register it!
An away game to Dundee Utd which is always a highlight.
BARCA ON WEDNESDAY!
Chuck wandering about in his Emperors clothes and rangerstaxcase letting everyone know he is really just walking about with his tackle out.
Great to be a Tim!
Time to get your rocks off as the song goes…
HH
PFayr it is easy for us as outsiders to take that view but in a hostile work environment it is not so easy.
He did more than all the other good cops I hear talked about on here.
Where are their protests about one sided policing; Masonic bias etc. I don’t hear any do you?
Philbhoy – It’s just the beginning
When did you play fort Cumbernauld Thistle?
I played for Cumbernauld Amatuers mid 70″s. Knew Brian Whittaker also
Wee Ramsay Goldie was our coach
DBBIA I stand corrected
…or coorected as BT would say.
Mark Reid was a very proficient penalty kick taker
el madrigal 15.18- Genius of an idea!
Jim Melrose in the 83/84 season scored 11 goals in all competitions.
Brian McClair scored 31.
HH!!
Stonking blog stats Gordon. Well done.
Gretna
If I read it right,that is a terrible comment to make
Regarding the plods,I had an experience years ago at a game against the defunct club ,when I was called a Papist Bas.,by one of them,I took it further,and after a internal investigation,I was told I was lucky not to be locked up.Lying Bas.,the lot of them.
The 1967 ECWC final between the huns and Bayern Munich was played in Nuremberg.
Both teams, and their supporters, must have felt right at home there!
HH!!
Brown’s Requiem by James Elroy released on paperback yesterday. Amazon flogging it for £6.19
IMHO ,
Derek Whyte was excellent as an 18 year old in the run in to the title we won in 85.
TBB- I thought Mark Reid and Tommy Burns formed a good partnership down the left wing for the ole Celts.
Mark is one of the Bhoys of Summer, I would not have him in my list of fullback flops.
fanadpatriot 15:43 on 2 November, 2012
You can only go by personal experience on these matters.
And personally I detest the police.
I see bazza fergushun has signed for Fleetwood on loan,
always thought he would find his level
ElMad…that might catch on.
My tuppence on the poppy;
My fathers father fought in “the war to end all wars”. He told my father that the war had changed him but that he had believed at the time in the cause. The horror he must have seen. In the 70 or so years he lived after, a witness to the many other wars which came and went, he grew to despise the hypocrisy the poppy had by then come to hide. I knew him for a few years toward the end of his life. I watched as this great hulk of a man wasted away in an ex-servicemans hospital alongside the amputees and mad men. Even as a boy though I understood the reason behind the sorrow in his eyes…we had learned nothing…his sacrifice and that of his friends was for a lie. I do not need a poppy to remind me of this.
bbg
Marrakesh Express @ 15.32
hehehe – brilliant.
DBBIA
According to Celtic wiki, he’s now a Driving Instructor.
I only hope his pupils are as slow when turning as he was in his prime.
kyredstar cuts it back for Neil Lennon
15:30 on 2 November, 2012
“Mea Culpa
My mum was working in the co-op in Gibshill, Greenock when we won in Lisbon.”
Don’t be too hard on yourself. It wasn’t your fault…you were only a wean. Anyway nothing wrong with the Co-op or Gibshill even
Steinreignedsupreme
15:47 on
2 November, 2012
fanadpatriot 15:43 on 2 November, 2012
You can only go by personal experience on these matters.
And personally I detest the police.
………….
Snap
last post..missed out the jin (been on the gin)
Re Where you were when we won at Lisbon. I had just started work as a 19 yr old in a very small town in Co. Kerry. My Boss was the biggest Bo****ks I have ever met before & since. The day of the game he informed me I had to work overtime that night. I went back to my digs for my tea break, watched the game to the end job or no job. Afterwards went back to work with tears of joy in my eyes but expecting to be slaughtered. For the first and only time in his life the Boss was in rare good humour, he even had tears in his own eyes. Next day he went back to being a Bo****ks but just for one night the Lions humanised him.