Let’s be clear about what is going to happen on Friday. Monetary inducements are being made to allow a newly created company to advance its football team two divisions up the league structure.
The overwhelming majority of money to pay for these financial inducements will be taken from Celtic, who vehemently oppose all these measures. The SPL will reduce the commercial distribution to the top club in the league and pay-off everyone else. 41 teams will benefit financially from this proposition, only Celtic will lose.
For good measure, the SPL have declined to take gate sharing off the table. Up to 30% of your season ticket money will soon be commandeered by Kilmarnock, Motherwell and the rest, who will take their slice and share some with the lower leagues.
All the while you can scarcely find a football fan of any club who is anything other than disgusted by this shoddy behaviour; Celtic fans are by no means isolated. Most fans of former-club, Rangers, don’t want to see a phoenix assisted by such blatant patronage, lest Newco is forever known as a team which needed rules to be changed and money taken from Celtic to give it life.
Believe me, if Newco exists for 100 years, every day they score a goal someone will say, “They are only there because the rules were changed to help them and money was taken from Celtic to pay for it”.
They will forever be known as the Establishment club with definitive evidence that they benefited from the Establishment’s help.
The once-proud era of Scottish league football is surely over, what we are witnessing is merely evidence of this fact. ‘Sport’ as gone from our football. Fans, clubs and the national bodies must accept this reality and start to make forward plans to breathe the oxygen of genuine competition into our game.
Where is Michel Platini when football really needs some help?
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HENRYCLARSON 1312
Waken up wi a hangover this morning,mibbes in a bad mood,being a Monday?
Disnae matter,mate.
That is a stunning post-if you reposted it every day I would never tire of reading it.
Thank you.
BSR- park the Tesco trolley ;/)
ernie
Option 4 will come back after the chicanery, and gerrymandering is done.
No name
No money
No players
No hope of taking a place in any league.
hun in frmt of me in tesco, got a new hundead top
he went mental when they deducte10 reward points :oD))))
Dontbrattbakkinanger – Philvis- I think the quality of the American experience may depend on the colour [color?] of your skin.
Quite possibly, yes. In which case you’d still much rather be a black American in 2012 than in 1942, yes?
One of the good things about the conflict you describe from the US point of view was that with the industrial effort involved in becoming the ‘arsenal of Democracy’ wages and employment soared, enabling the country to recover from the slump of the 20s/30s.
War prosperity is false prosperity: you can’t eat guns.
To put it another way: if every worker was staffed in the army and fleet, we’d have full employment and nothing to eat.
For the effects of war on the economy generally, see Bastiat and broken windows.
Howevah, I agree that a lot of industrialists got rich off WW2. (thumbsup)
Would somebody, for pity’s sake, please answer his increasingly urgent pleas.
I would do it myself if I was on speaking terms with him.
PLEASE.
I’m Neil Lennon (tamrabam) on 9 July, 2012 at 13:28 said:
Regarding the Celtic money grab
A colleague of mine supports Motherwell. He bought 1 adult and 2 kids season tickets for £280.
About a tenner a game for the Adult and four quid for the kids
Why then are celtic fans being charged in excess of 20 quid to watch celtic play at Well, when the home fans are paying a tenner.
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Celtic charge away fans £28 for there tickets there lies the problem
Surely if Celtic challenge this in court the SFA and Sevco won’t have a leg to stand on? Are there legal reasons that Peter Lawwell and Celtic haven’t made a public statement to the fans on this to let us know whats going on? All this with Campbell Ogilvie still in office at the SFA. I think we need a dossier of the events posted to Nyon to let UEFA and then FIFA see what has been going on.
HenryClarson on 9 July, 2012 at 13:12 said:
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So true,in so many ways. A great post.
HH!
Ernie
Was at a meeting at Parkhead yesterday you views on the board seem to be a lot closer than people give you credit for.
Monday morning and the crooks are still in the bank……
Uncommon Sense.. Room 101…
“Dae Turkeys Vote fur Christmas?”
Soitenly.. NOT!
“Dae Scottish Premier League Teams, vote fur the Inclusion of a Team..who wull Likely.. Prevent any of them fae Finishing as Wan o’ The TOP TWO in the League??”
fur.. if the F.G.A. are no allowed in..then that LEAVES a Gaping SPOT tae be filled.. in SECOND SPOT behind the “Stonewaller”, Celts!… which wid be up fur Grabs fur som lucky Team tae Fill!
Soitenly NOt!… which turned oot tae be the Case..
Right???
Therefore.. Uncommon sense.. dictates that…
The First Division Teams WULLNAE Vote fur the ENTRANCE tae their League o’ a Team.. the F.G.A…in this case..
Who wull Soitenly be Favoured tae Gain the Top Spot in thur League..and…
Which wid, naturally…
ROB ….any of the Ither Teams already ensconced in that League, fae Gaining .. Top Spot.. and subsequently Deprive them of winning a LUCRATIVE.. Promotion~~
Right?
Right…
Ah say..therefore…
Q.E.D.
that..
The First Division Teams wull REJECT.. the Machivellian Scheme proposed by the Guys fae Letherby Drive.. tae bring in the F.G.A. tae their Division..
Maks sense tae me.
Kojo
Still, Laughin’ ..like Hell.
Apologies to any Hurkin Luns apparently season tickets have reached nearly 600.
Twitter CSC
Paul67 et al
I thought that the statement made by Celtic last week was realistic, positive and encouraging. The SFL statement which followed it refers to negotiations between the SPL and the SFA, with any final decision being made by the SFL board. Does anyone know just how and when these “negotiations” are to take place, or are they happening now as we speak? No?
Imagine there’s no Sevco
it’s easy if you try
No Snow Whyte
to help them.
They don’t get owt from SKY
Imagine all the people
On their knees to pray
Imagine there’s no Sevco
it isn’t hard to do. Nothing to
kill or die for And no religion too
Imagine ” We are the Peepo”
Never sung again.
You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
In the world where there’ll be no Sevco
Lennon
lennon’s passion on 9 July, 2012 at 14:40 said:
‘Ernie
Was at a meeting at Parkhead yesterday you views on the board seem to be a lot closer than people give you credit for.’
Funnily enough I was talking to a mate this morning about that meeting and that was the impression I got.
KOJO
Welcome back,bud.
Glad to see your ramblings again,even though our non-football opinions generally differ.
It would be a boring world if we all agreed,eh?
PS,how come you never seem to speak up in defence of PHILVISRETURNS?
Sometimes,yer protege needs a haun-oot,ye know!
Not sure if this was posted yesterday, but a statement from Hibs supporters! Some of the comments afterwards are encouraging with respect to ‘other’ clubs!
http://hibsclub.co.uk/2012/07/08/statement-on-rangers-scottish-football/
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Just watched highlights of the tennis from yesterday and noticed Salmond sitting in a box with Cameron.
Surely Salmond should have been in his own box?
Kojo @ 1415hrs,
Oh I know i have got the better deal my friend, after all I am Celtic Supporter and they support Murderwell!
Was more a comment on Murderwell doing a decent deal to entice more people to the games at their coo park…….although i do think we pay over the odds for our season cards, but can sort of understand the need for it….as i tried to explain to a Spurs and a Liverpool supporters on holiday.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
Philvis -I’d rather be a rich American in 1942 [ regardless of colour] than a poor one in 2012.
With regard to the economics of war- in democracies you have a relatively small fighting force [ even with full mobilisation] being supported by much greater numbers of civilians, including of course many women, to keep the army in the field.
Does anyone know if there is any work being done at the former training ground at Barrowfield?
I was talking to someone at work, a hun, and he was telling me that Celtic were in the process of upgrading the site.
I haven’t heard anything about it.
SPF
Thanks.
philvisreturns @14 36.
” Bastiat ”
Thanks —–philvis .
Fond memories of seeing a graffito on a wall of a workshop at the ole Erskine Hospital
” Bastiat Ya Bass ! “
ernie lynch – When you get time to watch the video you’ll learn that in real terms wages in the USA have flatlined since the 1970′s.
Srsly Ernie? Srsly?
Seems like you’re missing out on the fact that consumption is much cheaper on average than it was in the 1970s.
The increase in working class living standards since then is accounted for by a combination of more women going out to work (ie two breadwinners per household that hitherto had one), more overtime, people having more than one job, and finally, increased borrowing.
All these factors are real, but the Chinese elephant in the room is that goods are generally much cheaper than they were. Which is a good thing.
Incidentally, average white male life expectancy in the USA, 1971: just under 68 years
Average in 2004: just under 76 years
Also a good thing, no?
People in the 40′s had the reasonable expectation that they’d be better off than their parents’ generation and that in turn their children would be better off than them. That’s no longer the case.
Unless we believe that economic growth is going to go into reverse for the next 20 or 30 years (and even the Great Depression wasn’t that brutal), we still have a reasonable expectation that our children will be better off than we are.
If we assume that 2% average annual growth is a not unreasonable expectation for the next 35 years, our children will be roughly twice as rich in 2047 than we are today.
Which is another good thing. (thumbsup)
Tesco trolley, will of course be ole, and fished out of canal at Temple and pressed into service alongside the ole General Lee, aka the Devil’s Elbow.
SonsOfErin on 9 July, 2012 at 13:53 said:
Meanwhile…..
Looks like john terry will get off the racism charge. Ferdinand says he didn’t actually hear the initial remark, and only thought the remark had been made after watching the youtube clip.
terry claims the youtube footage is him merely repeating what Ferdinand wrongly thought he had said.
…………….
Well somebody is telling porkies!
If Ferdinand didn’t hear it at the time, he wouldn’t have pulled up Terry who says he only said it to deny it after Ferdinand pulled him up about him saying it!
So who is telling porkies????
America,the New Roman Empire,modelled on Ancient Rome : ergo fascist in nature.
America,founded on the genocide of one people,the enslavement of another,and extreme violence.
And Great Britain wasn’t much better : the biggest narco-state ever.
The world is a mad place. We just have to get through our time here with as much decency as we can muster.
Not easy when your tribe is in the firing line for the troubles of the most vile and underhand tribe in the region.
Anyway,as someone once said,”Think globally,but act locally.”
Afternoon bhoys, very hot, but as ever hun free.
Wouldn’t be waiting for uefa or fifa to do anything, the sfa have ignored them all along the way, I understand that uefa were anticipating a quick resolution to the huns taking the sfa to the courts, must have been so quick we all missed the resolution….
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America the land of the free, was watching the news earlier Al Jazera, and there was a bit about Detroit and the flight of it’s people, there are untold empty abandoned houses there, can be had for $6k, reasonable price that, costs the state $8k to take them down.
In which I look at the public comments by David Longmuir on the issue of new members of the SFL, and the different process being followed three months after his declaration.
In addition, I wonder if the SFL has carried out any checks on the financial stability of Sevco Scotland Ltd.
http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2012/07/09/sfl-meeting-137-part-2-what-procedure-must-the-sfl-follow-re-a-new-member/
You know it
You show it
And the time has come
To shoot you down
What a sound
When the day is done
And it all works out
I’d love to do it and you know you’ve always had it coming
You know it
You show it
And the time has come
To shoot you down
What a sound
When the day is done
And it all works out
I’d love to do it and you know you’ve always had it coming
I never wanted
The trophies you showed me
It started to choke me
And how I wish I’d said
No too slow
I couldn’t take
That too fast
I want you to know
You know it
You show it
But I can’t back down
It’s far too late
I can’t wait
Now the time has come
It’ll all work out
And when this
Thing is done
It’ll leave no doubt
So when you’ve
Had your fun
Will you all walk out?
I’d love to do it and you know you’ve always had it coming
I’d love to do it and you know you’ve always had it coming
I’d love to do it and you know you’ve always had it coming
philvisreturns on 9 July, 2012 at 14:58 said:
Watch the video.
PHILVISRETURNS 1458
Serious question which has perplexed me for many a year.
Does “growth” in the economy,eg GDP,take account of inflation?
Is it real growth,or inflated growth,which,over the cycle,would be negative?
Because if the economy grows at 2% while inflation is around 5%,it doesn’t seem like growth to me.
Only asking,PR,not trying to dig you up on this one,btw.
how about celtic lay all their cards on the table & say ‘fk it, we’re off’. they claim that scottish fitba won’t survive without 1 half of the old firm; time to call their bluff. we sure don’t need to give our 3 yr’s notice as the authorities have literally torn up the contract with all member clubs with the repeated rule breaches over the past 8 weeks or so.
do they really need the old firm or are they just twisting the rules for the establishment team?
time to call their bluff…….where do we go from here? liquidate for all i care – anything is beats this corrupted country!
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Bobby Murdoch’s Curled Up Winkle Pickers..
Hiya, Pally?
Great tae Meet and Greet..
.. Ah am back oot o the Hospital.. and This Time..
Ah believe the Surgeon.. Goat it Right… THIS TIME!( let’s hope!!)
Anywey…
So We dinnae look at Many things wi the Same Jaundiced Eye?
Big Deal!
Ah am never inclined tae base Ma Judgment of a Guy’s Character oan how much o’ his and Ma ain Ideas are in Opposite Camps..especially.. by only being able tae go wi
whit he WRITES!!!!
That kinda Thinkin’ wull get ye a Place .. at Hawkheid!
Wan must Allow ither Folk tae Voice Whit They Believe..and Whit they Dinnae
That is How is Supposed tae Woik.
Right?
Everybuddy, is Entitled tae PIT… HIs or Her Ain SLANT oan.. well.. Anything..at Awe!
Anywey.. again…
Ah am only interested in Wan Thing… oan here..
And that is .. being able tae Practise Ma Luv of Ma Team…and
tae Gie Ma Views oan…
The Celtic!!
And .. so faur..
Celtic , are Looking.. Mighty Fine.. and Heading fur..
EURO GLORY.. this Year…
Great Days, are Jist Aroon the Coarner..
Right?
Kojo
yer pal.. who thinks yer Swell…
Still, Laughin’ .. of Course!!
Hi Fellow Celtic Fans!
I was at a Summer Shool / Training course over the weekend in Birmingham and on Saturday night we always have a ‘formal’ dinner. Imagine my delight at seeing the dessert menu and realising there could only be one choice: ‘Pimms and Lemonade Lime-flavoured Jelly with mint-flavoured ice-cream!’ It took me a minute to recover from my laughter sufficiently to explain to my fellow attendees why I had burst out laughing! :-)
Yours in Celtic,
TB&F.