Let’s be clear about what is going to happen on Friday. Monetary inducements are being made to allow a newly created company to advance its football team two divisions up the league structure.
The overwhelming majority of money to pay for these financial inducements will be taken from Celtic, who vehemently oppose all these measures. The SPL will reduce the commercial distribution to the top club in the league and pay-off everyone else. 41 teams will benefit financially from this proposition, only Celtic will lose.
For good measure, the SPL have declined to take gate sharing off the table. Up to 30% of your season ticket money will soon be commandeered by Kilmarnock, Motherwell and the rest, who will take their slice and share some with the lower leagues.
All the while you can scarcely find a football fan of any club who is anything other than disgusted by this shoddy behaviour; Celtic fans are by no means isolated. Most fans of former-club, Rangers, don’t want to see a phoenix assisted by such blatant patronage, lest Newco is forever known as a team which needed rules to be changed and money taken from Celtic to give it life.
Believe me, if Newco exists for 100 years, every day they score a goal someone will say, “They are only there because the rules were changed to help them and money was taken from Celtic to pay for it”.
They will forever be known as the Establishment club with definitive evidence that they benefited from the Establishment’s help.
The once-proud era of Scottish league football is surely over, what we are witnessing is merely evidence of this fact. ‘Sport’ as gone from our football. Fans, clubs and the national bodies must accept this reality and start to make forward plans to breathe the oxygen of genuine competition into our game.
Where is Michel Platini when football really needs some help?
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i too like to know what developments are happening around celtic park the old school barrowfield etc etc,oh and no PARKS COACHES .
bournesouprecipe on 9 July, 2012 at 14:42
Apologies to any Hurkin Luns apparently season tickets have reached nearly 600
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It’s difficult enough getting any sense from a hun at the best of times granted, however on the subject of season ticket sales they are surpassing themselves in the somnium stakes.
If I got this right (overheard conversation this morning) they have sold 600 tickets up from 200 odd from last week but the only reason they’re down in numbers from last year is that season ticket sales are suspended until the SFL decision on Friday and at that point the conversation ended with both of them nodding in agreement.
Re: the Sevco signings discussed earlier. Breccia Oniciata looks pretty solid. Prima Facie, at first glance, may look insubstantial. But I think real evidence will emerg proving him worthy of more than one contract.
Blindlemonchitlin.
I have already said several times in here ,what I know to be true, that S.F.A. did not even ask for any compensation from Rangers when Sir Walter broke his contract. So Darryll was right when he said – ‘both sides were happy’.
P.S.Re. ‘gate-sharing’ – would it not be worth considering a system whereby the visiting club got a % of the gate equivalent to the % of visiting fans in attendance. That would be fair and wouldn’t cost too much as most clubs bring two busloads to Celtic Park..They surely would not expect 50% of 50,000.
Today I heard a wee snippet which I’m sure is nonsense.
Story goes that Mr Doncaster spent some time in West Lothian (aka The
Orange Free State ) in his younger years.
And would travel with friends to see a team which is now defunct.
I don’t believe a word of it.
Apart from the free state bit.
MIKI67 1502
I think calling Britain a narco-state is a tad unfair-Britain had a passion for tea in the early-to-mid 19th Century,and China had a monopoly on it.
They would only accept payment in silver.
Britain,not having much of that metal,bartered it with the only commodity which their Empire had to hand,and which the Chinese coveted.
Opium.
Britain was wrong to trade in the substance-which,btw,was legal at home then,but China didn’t do themselves any favours.
Calling us a narco-state is unfair,IMO.
I see on Sky a chap has got 17 years at her magesties pleasure for non payment of tax, NI and VAT. I’m sure there are detail differences with events unfolding on the west side, but not a million miles away. I wonder how the former office bearers of RFCiL feel when they read this…
http://news.sky.com/story/957973/briton-jailed-for-17-years-for-tax-fraud
Nervous I would imagine…
Token Tim @ 13:39
Not of great use to you in the halal recommendations for Cardiff I’m afraid.
Ambala is on City Road , never been there, but its surrounded by loads of kebab shops and cheap fast food eateries. Not the best location. Best place to eat there is actually Haweli – (recommended by me and Jay-Z !) but not sure if they have a halal option.
Juboraj has a couple of restaurants, one in the city next to Mill Lane, where the fabulously young and trendy go for a pint, and where you might be lucky enough to see one of the Welsh Rugby team or Craig Bellamy get into an animated discussion with a member of the public, usually ending in fisticuffs. They also have one at Lakeside, bit more out of town location, about £8 in a cab, nice restaurant, and quite upmarket as Indian restaurants go, personally I think it’s overpriced but it’s very popular and has a good reputation.
Can email me through Paul67 if you need any more info.
Foxy
True, – personal anecdotal evidence suggests there are very many Direct Debits cancelled, and on hold, * thanks recently to Bomber’s sterling work*
A subject noticeably given a very wide berth by MSM, who are consumed with
the Div One campaigning, and the rule breaking set for Friday
For all we know they may have more senior players, than season ticket holders.
Their real problems may just be starting once they get a league to play in, something that it’s far from clear, they’ll be able to fulfil and sustain.
BikerGerryS – there is still too much inequality and too much poverty in the world.
Amen, brother. As somebody once said, the poor will always be with us.
However, the poor today in the West used to have nothing and worry about starving to death. Now they have satellite TV and expensive trainers and worry about obesity.
So, progress. (thumbsup)
Dontbrattbakkinanger – Philvis -I’d rather be a rich American in 1942 [ regardless of colour] than a poor one in 2012.
Depends how you define “rich” of course. Being a billionaire in 1942 was probably more fun than being a working joe in 2012.
But say you fell ill. I’d much rather have, say, cancer in 2012 than 1942. Because of economic growth and scientific development, you’re much more likely to survive and thrive today than you would have been in the 40’s.
With regard to the economics of war- in democracies you have a relatively small fighting force [ even with full mobilisation] being supported by much greater numbers of civilians, including of course many women, to keep the army in the field.
Yup. And they’re all busily engaged in the business (directly or indirectly) of manufacturing ways to kill people and break things. Hence, wars don’t create prosperity. (thumbsup)
ernie lynch – Watch the video.
Don’t tell me how to live my life, Ernie. (thumbsup)
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS – Does “growth” in the economy,eg GDP,take account of inflation?
Yes. (thumbsup)
KOJO 1509
Guid tae hear yer surgeon kent whit he was daein’ this time.
Dd ye pey him upfront,haha!
Only jesting,no a problem with a disagreement on here about anything non-Celtic,nor even disagreeing about our team.
The only thing that should matter is that discussions and disagreements are based on good humour and good knowledge.
And in your case particularly,good health.
All the best,cannae wait to fall out with you again,Kojo.
I will know then that you are fit and healthy again!
When HMRC rejected the CVA from the huns it was rejected on the 13th of June. Officially the 15th of June. HMRC then appointed liquidators BDO who were due to take over from Duff & Phelps 28 working days later.
Another unknown is how the footballing authorities – SFA and Uefa – would react to any new club while the old club still had outstanding debts to footballing creditors (other teams) totalling more than £3m.
Mr Green’s ambitions for a new club may also be thwarted if liquidators from BDO decide to challenge the asset sale.
Liquidators have the power to unpick any transactions which they believe are not in the best interests of creditors.
This Friday will be the 28th day.
I believe that this Friday is Duff & Phelps last day at the helm.
Is there something that is being rushed through here by the footballing authorities due to something that BDO might do or find out next week ?
If the SFL vote in newco on Friday and by the middle of next week BDO say
“Hey wait a minute Mr. Green these assets are technically still owned by Craig Whyte and Ticketus”
What would be the situation to the decision to include sevco in SFL 1 ?
Are the footballing bodies still protecting Sir David Murray is what I am asking ?
HAil Hail
Bobby Murdoch ——
Excuse me as I but in on your question re GDP and inflation etc .
Some measures of GDP do allow for inflation /deflation . Some don’t .
I was never convinced that GDP was an accurate reflection . — way too many holes.——– does it measure the consumption of capital or does it measure the expansion of real wealth. .? It probably succeeds in doing neither and is therefore a big ole empty construction .
That´s me got my four tickets for the Germany V Argentina friendly on the 15th August.
I will not be seeing Celtic due to a broken foot and as next weekend I am at a reunion in Amsterdam I will miss Celtic playing Ajax who are there the following weekend.
Could not have planned things any better if I tried or asked the SFA to help me.
Hail Hail
cardiffbhoy @ 1519,
Thanks. Will probably go to Juboraj in the city centre as we are staying in the Holiday Inn next to the castle. Is that any good or more than likely standard HI fare?
I initially was going to stay at an out of town location, easy for getting to the M4 as we heading to Pembroke on business, but been told they’d prefer city centre so thay can have a look around etc.
Might call local Mosque for ideas as to good halal restaurants.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
I’m aware that this may be a long shot but do any of you have any dealings with theaters in Glasgow? I’ve a mate who has had a few plays put on in West Yorkshire and his latest one went down a storm in Bradford.
They’re looking to take the play on tour to venues of around 100-150 seats.
Does anyone know of any such suitable venues or the people to approach?
Grateful for any advice.
cheers
philvisreturns on 9 July, 2012 at 13:38
Your granfather would disown you for prostituting yourself for a flushing bog and a shiny car
Hail Hail
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Bobby Murdoch’es Curled up Winkle Pickers..
Part Two….
Pal.. Philvis, diz aweright.. in keepin up his END..
He soitenly disnae need Ma Help ..tae Bolster his Defense…
Here is wan of the Best SYNOPSIS..of whit is Going oan ..in the World… Today.. baith….Politically..and Economically..that Wan wull ever read.. it wiz written in .. the Nineteen Eighties..but,,,it is still are Pertinent tae whit is going oan ..RIGHT NOO..as it wiz.. Then.
http://www.whale.to/b/mullins_b1.html
Tnis Book.. states whit is going oan in the world RiGHT NOO..
In the Clearest of Language..and is a Heckava Read… intae
Bargain.
Kojo
yer pal.. who likes ye mair and marier..
Still Laughin’… Like.. Heidi!
Thread on RM saying that the shareholders of oldco have received a letter today from D&P proposing to change the name of the OLDCO to Rangers FC 2012 and that ‘Sevco Scotland Limited (which acquired the business and assets of the company from the administrators on 14 th June 2012) will change it’s name to “the Rangers Football Club Limited” simultaneously with the change of name by the Company’:
‘Sevco Scotland Limited (which acquired the business and assets of the company from the administrators on 14 th June 2012) will change it’s name to “the Rangers Football Club Limited” simultaneously with the change of name by the Company’
Making it up as they go along?
HH
Paul67
What do you expect Celtic to do about this?
TT
Paul,
As a long-time fan (and long-time lurker), I understand your perspective; however, I tend to side somewhat with deliasmith – there needs to be some mechanism to ensure the other clubs survive, otherwise there is no top division to play in.
You have been adamant that any kind of gate-sharing is anathema to the health of Celtic and I can see why that is the case, but if the SPL prize-money was evened out it seems to me that would be a not unreasonable approach. The bottom line is the need to foster better standards of football and to get more people coming out to watch their team. I think that this is a key outcome that proper leadership in the SFA and SPL should be focusing on.
Rangers: Five former players refused transfer clearance
International clearance has not been granted for the transfers of Steven Naismith, Steven Whittaker, Steve Davis, Kyle Lafferty or Jamie Ness.
The quintet have found new clubs after refusing to have their contracts transferred to a newco Rangers.
But, with Rangers seeking compensation, the Scottish FA will not provide authorisation for the moves.
Fifa are expected to grant temporary registrations while the world governing body rules on the matter.
Davis has joined Southampton, while Whittaker has signed for Norwich and Everton are Naismith’s new employers.
Ness and Lafferty have found new clubs
Ness moved to Stoke City and Lafferty is with Swiss club Sion.
Clubs request international transfer clearance (ITC) through their own national association, who then contact the SFA who, in turn, contact the club the player is leaving.
However, in this case, the issue is muddied by Rangers FC plc being consigned to liquidation and the newco Rangers having not yet become members of the SFA.
Eleven players have refused to join the new company set up by Charles Green after he purchased the assets of the Ibrox club.
Those leaving have been advised by their union that they do so as free agents.
Green contests this and has written to all clubs in England warning that the players are in breach of contract.
PFA Scotland say Green is deliberately misrepresenting the contract situation, with union chairman Tony Higgins last week saying: “I haven’t spoken to a single employment or sports solicitor who agrees with Mr Green’s interpretation of the law.”
Fifa say they have received no requests on behalf of any former Rangers players.
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Considering how they handled the Celik transfer they the SFA have no shame whatsoever.
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When I see how imbued the footballing bodies are with the mafia for the mediocre and the lack of Celtic inertia over the years in addressing this issue then quite simply if Sevco is voted into SFL 1 and this is not exactly what Celtic desire then I feel it is the end of the road for us in Scotland.
Hail Hail
Philvis -‘wars don’t create prosperity’ – break that gently to ole Mark Thatcher ;/)
lennon’s passion on 9 July, 2012 at 14:40 said:
For example ….??
Philvis/all – I think this article puts this little debate to bed with cocoa and biscuits –
Gap Narrows between Poor People and Chickens
Have we asked Platini to look at this, if not why not
Tomtheleedstim 15.30
Check out Oran Mor at the top of Byres Road- contact for your pal would be David McClennan
Cheers
philvisreturns on 9 July, 2012 at 15:25 said:
”ernie lynch – Watch the video.
Don’t tell me how to live my life, Ernie. (thumbsup)”
Then don’t expect me to answer your questions that are dealt with in the video, m’kay.
SOUTH OF TUNIS 1528
Feel free to butt in any time,sir.
It’s a blog,after all-and your answer indicated the same enquiring mind as my own,albeit with significantly more knowledge!
It is a question I really should know more about,as I believe GDP is measured in absolute terms. Which would have the UK in recession for most of the last 100 years.
As an example,I think I am right in saying that the first £100m budget only took place 90yrs ago,and a decade beforehand was around £20m.
It takes a big stretch of the imagination to see growth keeping pace with inflation from what I have seen.
Time,as ERNIELYNCH once said to hit the website JFGI,methinks….
Tickets booked for me and my girl for Ajax (though not the Celtic end). I’m as excited as Bomber Brown hearing The Sash coming from the away dressing room
OG
Somone posted earlier that Ajax were selling tickets to Celtic fans for the section right beside the ‘official’ Celtic section.
HH
Dontbrattbakkinanger on 9 July, 2012 at 15:42 said:
”Philvis -’wars don’t create prosperity’ – break that gently to ole Mark Thatcher ;/)”
And to Britain’s largest manufacturing company, BAE Systems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuJGChS9MT0&feature=related
Well, don’t get me wrong, I won’t hurt myself
Back in the 80’s, straight off the shelves
I even enrolled in the old school of cool
But how quickly I learned to be nobody’s fool
Don’t wanna live in an adidas world
With the adidas boys and the adidas girls
Don’t wanna live in an adidas world
With the adidas boys and the adidas girls
I tried it once or twice, but let’s not be wrong
You can’t defeat the enemy by singing his song
Adi Dassler, have you heard the news?
Gonna stomp all over your three-stripe shoes
Don’t wanna live in an adidas world
With the adidas boys and the adidas girls
Don’t wanna live in an adidas world
With the adidas boys and the adidas girls
You’ve gotta kowtow to the corporate cow
To the new superpowers I respectfully bow
adidas, Nike, I salute your name
But I’ve twisted my ankle, so I’m out of the game
Don’t wanna live in an adidas world
With the adidas boys and the adidas girls
Don’t wanna live in an adidas world
With the adidas boys and the adidas girls
Don’t wanna live in an adidas world
With the adidas boys and the adidas girls
Don’t wanna live in an adidas world
With the adidas boys and the adidas girls
Ole Ernie -and to Halliburton.
jinkyredstar cuts it back for Neil Lennon on 9 July, 2012 at 15:46 said:
Cheers pal, much appreciated.
If he gets it on go and see it. It is heavily influenced by Ireland/Celtic.
Token Tim @ 15:29
I don’t know the Holiday Inn, there, I would say propably pretty standard. Good location though. Close to Dempseys, home of the South Wales No1 CSC, where your visitors could have a wee soft drink whilst you sample the cold Guinness.
Not far from Purple Poppadom either, it is top notch “haute cusine” Indian food, but again my ignorance of halal customs means it may not be appropriate for your visitors.
KOJO 1534
I asked for that,didn’t I?
Right,folks. Hail,hail and bow before the master.
Kojo has found a way to keep me off the blog for quite a long time from the looks of it.
Still,it’s the silly season and I don’t have anything better to do.
I expect to enjoy it-and learn-too.
Thanks,KOJO.
Henry Clarson @ 13.12
Just when you’re at the point where you think that victory is about to be stolen from your grasp, when others are about to conspire to take what’s rightfully yours, when TFOD seemingly have more influence than the righteous, and the potential outcome is beginning to p€#$ you off, someone stands up and reminds us all what the fight is all about.
Stand up Henry Clarson!!
An inspirational piece of writing that has lifted my mood from resignation to hope!!
Thanks.
Hail hail.