News doesn’t pay anymore

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At the start of the week our man in Poland sent me a link to the Croatian outlet who interviewed Nikica Jelavic.  I mentioned the player in an article yesterday and recalled his earlier comments, which I referenced as background information.    This ‘news’ was subsequently carried by today’s radio and print outlets in Scotland.

It’s maybe a low blow to bring out the ‘Lazy journalism’ point on the day Scotland’s formerly-largest newspaper shed journalists, although the point is perfectly illustrated, but lazy journalism always found its place in the past.  The real problem has little to do with the standard of journalism on offer, it’s about business models in the old media.  News doesn’t pay unless you can tax consumers or bundle it with paid-for football channels, which is not a good thing.

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  1. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    philvisreturns 5 January, 2012 at 13:20

     

    The Honest Mistake loves being first – I like jokes. (thumbsup)

     

     

    If you see one let me know.

  2. The business of media has always been this: find your audience; find what they want to read or hear about (or watch) and deliver it to them effectively, professionally and accurately; sell sponsorship or advertising to companies that want to get in front of your audience.

     

     

    You don’t necessarily have to do it in that order, but you usually need all three legs for the stool to stand up.

     

     

    It sounds relatively easy, but in practice it seems that there are only hard, slow expensive ways to achieve all three.

  3. Whoever we sign this transfer window just remember what Mowbray done whilst he was here. Apart from Fortune here was another one he thought could do a job for Celtic.

     

     

    ‘Alassane begun a 1 week trial with Glasgow Celtic F.C. on Friday 17 July 2009, with the view to signing on a permanent deal. On the 1 August 2009, he retired from professional football after he was diagnosed with a heart defect.’

     

     

    Tony knew how to pick them…

     

     

    HH

  4. South Of Tunis on

    Gordon J /DBBIA

     

     

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    The figure for 2010 was @ 180 ,000.

     

     

    The figure for 2011 is @ 250,000.

     

     

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    Don’t like Cds but I give them a twirl in the kitchen —–if you like the Fame Studio Story –you will like —Sweet Inspiration –The Songs of Dan Penn & Spooner Oldham—-a bargain from those nice chaps at Ace Records

  5. RaRa

     

     

    We may indeed have crossed the Rubicon as far as printed newspapers are concerned; and future generations may well look back on weighty daily newspapers as quaint. However, I remain convinced that the general standard of football coverage in Scotland is truly dire. And not just in newspapers.

     

     

    There are a few notable exceptions, but when you consider the biggest media outlets (BBC, DR, Sun, even the Herald and Scotsman), there is little inspire and much to exasperate.

     

     

    The whole scene is hugely cosy and pathetically uncritical (cf. ‘coverage’ of the imminent demise of the Foe Malign.)

     

     

    It may still be early days in the re-shaping of football coverage on Scotland as it adapts to the internet age, but I especially look forward to hearing of a major shake up at the licence-payer funded BBC Sport Scotland.

     

     

    FF

  6. Happy New Year to all and Birthday to DBBIA

     

     

    Just finished my first season on FM Handheld 2012 (Christmas Stocking presant from my kids), Won everything with the Celts the League, Scottish Cup, League Cup and Europa League (on a shoestring). Season highlights were two 4-0 wins over the Orcs including one at Mordor & getting a transfer fee for Daryl Murphy (Cheers Tony Mowbray and Middlesbrough).

     

     

    Just to add to the realism Kayal scored 13 from midfield and Bangura got 18!

     

     

    Anyway back to reality…………

  7. DBBIA,

     

     

    Many Happy Returns for the day.

     

     

    Prescribe yourself a large Malt, to be taken three times a day, after meals.

  8. Ten Men Won The League on

    Methinks Mo Bangura will play the 90 mins at Peterhead on Sunday what with Hoops carrying a knock

     

     

    Is Morten Rasmussen back at CP now after his loan spell in Turkey?

  9. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    pay-off’s at the dreary retard and from what I gather from last night the sectarian football association have another wee scandal and pay-off’s for relatively senior positions, is hurricane fannybaws the wind of change we’ve been waiting for :o)

  10. Of course Ignatius Novo wouldn’t return to them.

     

     

    Who’d ever heard of a rat reboarding a sinking ship?

  11. Folly Folly – We may indeed have crossed the Rubicon as far as printed newspapers are concerned; and future generations may well look back on weighty daily newspapers as quaint. However, I remain convinced that the general standard of football coverage in Scotland is truly dire

     

     

    Indeed, one day we may look back nostalgically on the Daily Record’s “Thugs And Thieves”, the Scotsman’s front-page outrage over Artur Boruc making the sign of the cross, and Raman Bhardwaj telling shameless lies on STV news about Celtic supporters and sectarian singing.

     

     

    In the meantime, let them eat redundancy. (thumbsup)

  12. ASonofDan

     

     

    Seydou Doumbia – another player Mowbray wanted to sign – haggled over fee and missed out (sound familiar)

     

     

    Scored 29 in 41 for CSKA Moscow, also got a couple in the Champions League, now linked with Tottenham

     

     

    Olivier Giroud – another player Mowbray wanted to sign

     

     

    Scored 24 in 52 for Montpellier – called up to French squad, now linked with Arsenal

     

     

     

    Shame we only let him sign the bad players.

  13. PS I wouldn’t worry too much about Traynor he will re-emerge in another paper and he still has his BBC slot for which he probably gets paid more than most of us on here fpr doing real jobs!

     

     

    When he was with the Herald I enjoyed his work but the Record danced to a different tune!

  14. Parkheadcumsalford says:

     

    5 January, 2012 at 12:56

     

     

     

    When I started going, circa 1951, it was 9d, although for a few seasons I was “lifted” over.

     

     

    Therefore, it could well have been 6d or 7d ten or more years earlier.

  15. Whilst printed newspapers are in decline, their imminent death is still a long long way off.

     

     

    There has been very little investment in newspaper printing in the UK in the last 2-3 years, only the Express Group and DC Thomson are currently spending any money on new equipment.

     

    Press investment requires a 20+ year payback, so they are in it for this period at least.

  16. Ten Men Won the League

     

     

    I think Mo suffered a knock in training and is also doubtful. I hope he gets fit in time ne needs some game time.

  17. goldstar10 – their imminent death is still a long long way off

     

     

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    (thumbsup)

  18. Folly Folly

     

     

    Agree 100%. I’d guess that there are 4-5 full time football journos at the Daily Record. With 20-25 man days of effort per week they can’t produce a single intelligent, insightful or original news or opinion piece – which is a great pity. I’m just not sure that if they did produce such pieces whether they would deliver the required readership to sustain the printing presses and distribution vans.

  19. Paul67 says

     

    Well done! The example you quote demonstrates the undoubted power and accuracy of blogs such as this, ably led by yourself and with notable contributions from a host of intelligent and committed guys from all walks of life and geographic locations.

     

    You have a lot to answer for!

  20. Folly Folly

     

     

    I agree. BBC Scotland’s coverage of Scottish football is a complete joke, giving most of the jobs and important parts of the budget to guys who already have jobs.

     

     

    What is ‘Your Call With Jim Traynor’ other than Radio Daily Record? Why should the licence-payer fund that garbage?

     

     

    Output of fans’ reaction to a result (if we really need it) could be along the lines of what Kevin Day does on Match of the Day Two. A proper reporter (pace, Kevin Day, who does it the way comedians always do reporting gigs, ie as comedians) meets some fans of a club in a pub or on a bus before a game, goes into the game with them and goes to the pub afterwards to dissect the game with them.

     

     

    Having gall-stone-afflicted grouchy auld crab apples from Crieff call in to say after a game they have not been to, ‘my point, Jim, is there should be goal-line technology noo’ … is a total and utter waste of everyone’s time and money.

     

     

    If we have to have pundits, they need to be able to speak coherently. Two professional commentators would be a better way to spend the money, including money on training them to do their job better. If I was in charge, I would immitate what Radio Nacional does in Spain and have two commentators, with notably and recognisably different voices, sharing coverage of a match. I have a feeling they alternate move by move, or perhaps when possession changes, which is easier in Spain as spells of possession usually last longer. I like it. Having a few women commentators is a great way to vary the voices. I like women too (did I say that out loud?).

     

     

    If you have to have pundits, get them to do what mere mortal journalists cannot do. Get them to do a scouting report, but teach them to deliver it properly. In the build-up to the broadcast of a match, there could be scouting reports on the player to listen out for in each team.

     

     

    I hope BBC Scotland do freshen the product up because it badly needs to before it’s too late.

  21. cardiffbhoy

     

     

    The ones we missed out on were all Lawwell targets. Mowbray got the ones he wanted… :)

  22. South Of Tunis on

    DBBIA —–

     

     

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  23. DBBIA o tanjobi omedeto gozaimasu happy birthday

     

    mina san CQN akemashite omedeto happy new year from UNEW mike

  24. C 1st- you could do this on CQNTV, ie meet bhoys in a pub and ask them what they thought of the game.

     

     

    And just as the credits start scrolling down the screen ole Dick Byrne will magically appear to just miss buying his round.

  25. Celtic_First- BBC Scotland’s SPL highlights show is a particularly poor effort at entertaiment, I realise they are restricted to 5 mins highlights per game but the analysis and choice of guests leave a hell of a lot to be desired- big Cillian a few weeks ago, he was sitting there as if he was in a dentist’s waiting room.

     

    When the highlight of the show is his jumper it says everything!

  26. !!Bada Bing!! Kano 1000 on

    Fingers crossed Gordon Waddell gets hunted too,easily the worst so called “journalist” in mainstream media.And that title takes a bit of doing.

  27. EXILED TIM, I’ve forwarded your details to him.

     

     

    philvisreturns, the new media had a role in overcoming super injunctions but feels different when you sign for the lawyers letter, as I occasionally do. If CQN is a bellwether, we are not resourceful enough to take on certain issues.

     

     

    Houl yer wheest, cheers!

  28. DBBIA, CQNTV’s efforts have been excellent.

     

     

    Goldstar10. I agree about Sportscene. For reasons I can’t put my finder on, it’s worse than watching the goals online.

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