I see a bit of debate on the blog this morning on Lord Nimmo Smith’s SPL Commission, which has retired to prepare its report. In March last year former Rangers owner, Sir David Murray, insisted no Rangers players had “side contracts”, inferring there was no case to answer. This line has not been peddled since. Instead, various excuses are offered in mitigation.
BBC’s award winning The Men Who Sold the Jerseys documentary established that a large number of players received money in connection with playing football which was not recorded with the SPL and SFA. Even Rangers counsel at the First Tier Tribunal conceded tax should have been paid on five of these players.
The real issue for Nimmo Smith is how to impose an appropriate punishment for illegal registration on this scale, which is consistent with punishments recently handed out to Spartans, Dunfermline and others, all of whom were kicked out of competitions, and fined up to a quarter of their annual income, for offences relating to single games.
For a couple of years now we have discussed the toxicity of matters surrounding the Rangers group of clubs. Actions carried out during the Murray and Whyte eras put Rangers into liquidation with vast governance issues plaguing the game and the new club which inherited their player registrations.
On the assumption the SPL Commission concludes Rangers were guilty of fielding illegally registered players in hundreds of games, what would an appropriate punishment be? Forget about stripping titles, or reclaiming prize money, both of which are merely consequences of the facts being established, not punishments.
I have total confidence Nimmo Smith will submit a report beyond reproach on whether Rangers broke the rules, but would he send for a Black Cap before handing out a sentence? I’m not so sure. Spartans and the rest might feel their 25% annual income fine for a single-match offence might become an embarrassment to some of the game’s administrators.
“Without fear or favour” was what we were promised last year. Let’s see.
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Big Georges Fan Club,
Plains??? Pah!
Plains is the boil on the erse of Airdrie!
And as all we all know, Airdrie is the (very) ugly step-sister of Coatbridge
;-)
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
Top Tips; Use an old empty inhaler as a periscope, for your micro submarine
when playing in the bath at night.
Back when Ken Clarke was Chancellor I was at a conference at Transport House in Westminster. With an hour or so to kill before heading for the train we popped in for a mid afternoon pint. There was the bold Ken sitting, pint in one hand, cigar in the other, not a care in the world.
HT,
oh-oh…..that’ll be the cleelan wans no chuffed noo……
The Jimmy Delaney Bus will have a fatwah oot on yir ML3 ass…..assuming they can be bothered leaving Kelly’s that is :-)
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
BOURNESOUPRECIPE
Actually,no need for an empty inhaler…….
Once again, thanks to everyone.
And yes, I do have a tale or two to tell. One day, mibbe.
Like the night I saw two packs of timberwolves meet by moonlight on a highway in Northern Alberta.
I was maybe around 16 and travelling with my brilliant dad.
THE TOKEN TIM
I lost touch with a good lad when he moved to Bicester from Swindon a year or two back.
He is from Chapelhall. Some place,by all accounts-a proper wee enclave!
Paul67 et al
The problem facing Lord Nimmo Smith is that he is trying to marry two things, company law and association rules. Many supporters of the former Rangers FC, which still exists, believe that Nimmo Smith gave an interpretation last year that allows them to claim that the club of 1873 continues, albeit in SPL division three. It does not of course, but it could be deemed to be a successor club, if their supporters buy into it, as many have. The one thing Lord Nimmo Smith cannot do, is clear the guilty, then or now. He can only punish them. Maybe time to change the words to one of their favourite hymns to;
“The Sins my Father Bore”
Miki67 – Will keep you in our thoughts and prayers, best wishes to you!
Cumbernauld No1 Congratulations! Any victory over our poor NL neighbours is one to be proud of! And those wannabes from SL can only dream of our roundabouts and underpasses our innovative town planners came up with in the 60’s (know idea what they were smoking at the time though!)
Bournesouprecipe
Genius post yesterday with the start of the Keith Harris and Orville song. I caught it just as I was leaving and it made me laugh all the way home.
I got to thinking it would be a good, clean, innocent way of winding up the home support the next time Celtic have to play in northern England if we just sang that song in those voices. Just the way you wrote it out.
Genius, dear bhoy.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS – I could be wrong.
Anything is possible on a topsy-turvy day in which Philvis fails to assume the podium.
Howevah… as a random example, the Grauniad believes Germans are worse paid on average than we are.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/oct/26/real-cost-labour-reforms-germany
Germany has no minimum wage and millions of workers on below the UK minimum wage. The Guardian thinks this is a scandal, of course, and feels it “takes the shine off” their low unemployment compared to ours.
Their analysis fails to understand that low wages there are the reason for low unemployment, of course, but the numbers seem to be sound.
See also the BBC’s figures:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17543356
Average UK wages in PPP terms: $3065
Average German wages: $2720
(thumbsup)
CF
I wish i could fly, right up to the sky but i can’t” “You can!!!” “I can’t”
You caaaaaaaaaan!!!” – “I caaaaaaaannnnnnnnn’t”
KeithHarris&Orvill CSC
miki67
Timberwolves as in timberwolves?
Or high school basketball teams?
Bourne – I replied earlier about DBBIA but it was held up in CQN limbo.
Say hi to him if you see him and let him know my justgiving page is now up and running for the bike ride Leeds-Liverpool-Belfast on behalf of weeoscar4life. He very kindly asked me to let him know so he could sponsor me.
Anyone who has not yet sponsored one of the CQN’rs making this epic journey are more than welcome to chuck a few quid my way – it’s for a great cause.
127.5 miles in two days – training has left my backside looking like something roadside crows pick at – any donation gratefully received.
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Know or no….that is the question.
I blame the schools personally!!!
try again.
http://www.justgiving.com/WeeOscar4Life-Cycles-to-Belfast-March-2013-tomprior
miki 67 @.
Memory . Memory of living a life ..
One of mine involves seeing a female wild pig escorting her weans across the road in a fair sized Sardinian holiday resort .. Thing I really liked was that she /they were doing it at a zebra crossing.
“Roon ye” was actually a phrase coined by the town planners of the new towns when devising the road network.
There’s another roundabout!
PHILVIS RETURNS
I had a feeling you would know better!
And while my gast is truly flabbered,the second part of my reply is the more important one,IMO.
Anyway,one thing I think we can agree on is that UKPLC is in dire financial straits,no matter who is in government.
Has been since we lost that war in 1914-19. Oh yeah,we won that.
Bankrupted ourselves in the process though……
Philvis
Is it an idea to consider the whole Working Tax Credit malarkey as little more than a formal acknowledgement that real wages are too high (productivity/value added is too low), and that employers need supplements and subsidies to be able to compete with more productive economies?
Timberwolves as in timberwolves.
The real deal, doin’ a deal.
Awesome sight and experience.
JackLondon CSC
HT – just making sure Golden Time was not wasted on you today!
south of tunis:15:00 on 22 February, 2013
>>>>>>>
clever little piggies.
they musta listened to the beatles’ double white.
: > )
BOURNESOUPRECIPE
Any time I see Orville the Duck mentioned,I think of Alex Hammond……..
Back to the medicine factory time…
…..home away from home now….
Yeeehaaah……..happy drugs for free and street legal. Eat dem words porkies!
; > )))
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS – And while my gast is truly flabbered,the second part of my reply is the more important one,IMO.
But we still make things, too.
In fact, we make more than we ever did in the good old days of British manufacturing:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/22/manufacturing_figures/
Anyway,one thing I think we can agree on is that UKPLC is in dire financial straits,no matter who is in government.
Yes we are.
Has been since we lost that war in 1914-19. Oh yeah,we won that.
The public finances were in decent shape till Gordon Brown’s “Brewsters Millions” phase of the early-to-late 2000’s. Most of which was simply wasted, like in Brewsters Millions. Sadly it wasn’t entertaining like Brewsters Millions. (thumbsup)
The Battered Bunnet – The Working Tax Credit malarkey was a cunning plan to get millions of people who would otherwise think of themselves as self-reliant hooked on benefits.
Anybody who is not insane or evil would simply cut taxes on the working poor – the easiest and cheapest option – instead of spending a lot of money on a complicated system of taxing them then giving them a small pittance back after much unnecessary shuffling of paper requiring hordes of civil servants to administer it. (thumbsup)
Pistorius bailed- I’m sure people will think twice about using the loo when he’s around.
TTT
hey you ya roaster … Traducing me for my fitba bets ….
Think you should look a wee bit closer to home :-))
QUANTUM
They might shit themselves!
bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers
14:45 on
22 February, 2013
BOURNESOUPRECIPE
Actually,no need for an empty inhaler…….
MILDLY DISTURBING. :-)
PF AYR
TTT adopted a scatter-gun approach,tbh……
miki67 @14:46 Like the night I saw two packs of timberwolves meet by moonlight on a highway in Northern Alberta.”
Whit team did they support?
miki 67 . @15 04 .
I never got the Beatles . My memories of 68 —–things like The Pretty Things SF Sorrow LP / The Marvellettes / Buck Owens / Tammi Terrell / Faron Young / Booker T and the MGs . I used to treat people to the Ernest Tubb Sings Hank Williams LP .-went down real well [ not ]
Mash it down !
proudbhoy
13:24 on
22 February, 2013
Any smart phone bhoys out there with an app called tunein radio
Search on it for fenian radio if you enjoy some songs of resistance .
Let the people sing
Sure beats radio 2
PHILVISRETURNS
A wee point from your link at 1453-yes,we may make more now than before,but it is relative.
Manufacturing-from your link-is now around 12% of GDP.
That is not a sustainable level for a healthy economy.
Anyway,pleasure as always having a blether wi you all-cot time for night shift.
My money’s on SFTB for tonight’s quiz………..
philvisreturns
14:17 on 22 February, 2013
petec – Why is Germany so strong in these turbulent times?
As far as I’m aware, German wages are lower than UK ones on average.
Eh…… Germany actually has a manufacturing industry (they make things that sell); we don’t have anything even close to being comparable. They have sensible wage structures and despite that, a higher standard of living. 35 years working here has convinced me of that.
HH
Gerry
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Gauny hurry up Lord Nimmo Smith, want to do some painting, but feart in case I miss the big announcement!