It’s unfortunate that our next opponents had a clear midweek while we played on Tuesday, but we’re not ones for excuses around here. We have the strongest squad in the country and should have more than enough in the tank to get through our next two games.
Cameron Carter-Vickers’ fitness well be a concern for Brendan Rodgers. The central defender has nursed a hamstring injury since August; never quite fully fit and often unable to sprint. We can lament the lack of development we’ve achieved with our central defenders at a later date.
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So to seperate myself from the `flock` I`d take the medicine of a successful hun trophy season if it generated the requisite levels of anger to make the lazy Tims angry enough to remove the unneeded rich wasters on the executive and let real Tims run Celtic…if real Jambos can run Hearts off of season ticket, sponsors, players sales monies, etc, then why not smart cute and ballsy Tims?
The excellent [KevJungle ] explained in great detail how simply this could be achieved so go back and check his posts and you`ll get the picture…that`s if the bent out of his depth Mod hasn`t deleted them.
Nothing changes as long as the lazy 60,000 financially guarantee that the Old Firm is alive and enthusiastically facilitated by Celtic PLC…Rangers prices onto Sevco tickets etc, etc…this is why a season filled hun kick up the arse for Timdom might tip the scales from lazy Tims eyes…which would be a welcome kick up the arse imho…ugly…but welcome!
If the Mod has removed these [KevJungle] posts then that should identify him as a bent PLC plant.
oot laters. HH
TONTINE TIM @ 4:02 PM,
With all due respect we now have a decent timeline and stats to assess our recruitment performance.
When Peter Lawwell came in as COO twenty years ago things were very different at Celtic.
He was quickly promoted to CEO and one of the first things he did was to stop buying players for MO’N.
Now the reasons and logic of that can be debated.
However in the last ten years things have radically changed, we’ve had Rangers dead and the Champions route to the UCL group stages as a big advantages.
Those two things were game changers.
We needed fresh impetus, creative ideas, cutting edge methodology, we got none of that.
The last decade has seen an explosion in European football with Celtic left way behind.
One of the reasons for this is our squad management, we were using an outdated method of recruitment and even then not doing it very well.
The lead states; “we’re not one’s for excuses around here” this is blatantly wrong, we have a list as long as your arm of excuses:
We can’t afford quality footballers
Playing football in Scotland means we can’t succeed
No decent footballer will come to Scotland
We have to sell our most valuable players to balance the books
No Scottish Club can succeed in Europe these days
We must hoard money for a rainy day as the Club will go bust
And we can all name a dozen more, excuses that Ange and Sevco and our balance sheet have consigned to the waste bin.
They are only good excuses if you want to play the risk averse businessman living high on the hog on Easy Street.
They are not very credible excuses if you want to create a competitive football Club.
So how good have our signings been since Rangers died, all two hundred plus in that time?
Well, we can see, how many of the players that were said weren’t good enough went on to have good careers at a relevant level?
That will tell us, if it was the recruitment or some other reason.
Less than twenty percent of the players made it with us, the eighty percent flunked it.
The players that flunked with us, did not make it elsewhere at a decent level, with a very few exceptions that prove the rule.
That is a huge indictment of a system not fit for purpose.
When Ange came in, we went down a different recruitment route with different outcomes – our recruitment at that time changed tact, our recruitment was a success.
A year or so ago we changed back to our failed model and our recruitment has once again become poor.
That is not a coincidence, it is the model that’s a failure.
We are now back to first team recruits that aren’t cutting it and bloated squads not fit for purpose.
Hail Hail
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 28TH DECEMBER 2023 4:43 PM
That awkward moment when it’s about ‘ Gers new £35M striker ‘
Who actually showered with Ronaldo, and they used the same nail bar
#smsm
Guys,
Don’t have a scoobie about the potential huns new loan signing, but it can’t be worse that a certain player of ours on a very lucrative contract who can’t even make the team photograph.
If the board back our manager he will without doubt produce the goods. It really is that simple.
HH.
How high does Silva score on the Qualitometer?
Not getting the old warm and fuzzy from this article Paul.
I fancy my team for Saturday (I always do I suppose) but I think it will be tough.
Westcraigs – respectfully …. what Celtic40me said.
Over the last 12 years we don’t have a track record of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Sevco’s new loaner?
Two points from me if I may.
1. Sevco doing what Sevco do. Win at least one of the bookends of the transfer window. Unsurprising.
2. Minority view. I think the boy is a talented footballer. He clearly couldn’t handle the physicality of the EPL. Might be same here but, equally, he might do well. Getting hold of a player someone was willing to pay £35m for (even just for five months) is a shot in the arm for fans.
Ironic that his fee is touted as a waste of money (who knows what he’ll bring) yet we still have McCarthy on the books.
We should concentrate on our own failings (and where, playing staff, coaching staff, boardroom) and rectify them first and foremost.
Were definitely half of something, imo.
I can’t imagine Paul 67 et al would relish John Kennedy going up against Philip Clement.
Back our manager, because that is the odds on alternative
HH.
I think Celtic went down the Aaron Ramsey road, in the bad old days, long before the Loan Rainjurz.
18 Yard Man
The competition is in Qatar over 4 weeks and is definitely under 23.
The media seem to have either not done homework or sought to inject further false fear and negativity into the Celtic fans. As they do.
BURNLEY78 on 28TH DECEMBER 2023 9:13 AM
Bada Bing
Just noted that Asian Cup 24 is an U23 tournament.
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Can’t find any reference to this. Where did you source this? Could be a big plus for us, if true…
I sincerely hope Sevco signing Silva proves a costly flop , but I think we risk being accused of lacking self awareness if we don’t recognise the need to seriously tidy up our own act in this window .
BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 28TH DECEMBER 2023 5:06 PM
Silva wouldn’t be shot in the arm for our fans, though, it would be seen as more like a punch in the face.
GLENDALYSTONSILS
Yip, no dilemma for Celtic we need a short term striker, and a longer term signing also. With players called up to the Asian Cup we definitely need a striker, the question is will he be the same player for both needs? The £72M in the bank is closer to £100M, and the ‘you buy cheap you buy twice cliche’ shouldn’t apply to Celtic in January or next summer.
The last thing we need is squad cover we need the right players and it’s high time we flexed financial muscle. We’ve blown a gap, the only way we’ll re-establish it, will be through showing who is boss, and making targets not waiting for EPL flotsam.
Hail Hail all,
To be Celtic daft is not exactly a slur and in fact it is considered a compliment amongst ourselves. However at times it highlights a lack of rationality in the football fan resulting in them buying overpriced merchandise and stumping up the money for a season ticket because they feel a strong commitment to the club. Those Celtic fans should look around the country, as someone mentioned earlier, to see what the likes of Hearts daft fans are doing to have a bigger say in how their club is run. Let’s make no mistake, a season-ticket holder is a member of a club. Look how successfully the English fans knocked the SuperLeague on its head a year or so ago when Man Utd daft and even Chelsea daft fans held demonstrations. All the big clubs, and maybe especially Celtic PLC, are in debt to all of those hardened supporters who have bought all the football clobber these last 30 years and the fat cats know this. Supporter Power is upon us and I hope it coalesces well at Celtic Park, not so much to remove the board but to influence their decision making.
I never said it was an U23 Tournament, as I’m sure it’s not,looks like B78 posted it?
I remember us signing Chelseas flop… A big guy called Sutton….. Nothing went right for him at Chelsea and I thank God we splashed out 6 mill for him……
Some players just fit a certain club……
I’m sure our older supporters can maybe recall other’s that did a job for us.
Yes we have squandered a hello a lot of cash and getting little in return……
Making the same mistakes and all that…..
I remember Flotsam and Jetsam back in the days of the ole Burn’sssss Howf
– what a waste of time and money that was.
Merry Christmas DBBIA 👍
P67 needs to wake up and smell the coffee, a lot of anti BR articles recently, does he think his Boss will be at Celtic Park next season, if we throw this League?
Broony or “Brownie” © BR, set to take over from Harry Kewell?
via BadaBing
CHAIRBHOY on 28TH DECEMBER 2023 4:58 PM
TONTINE TIM @ 4:02 PM,
GREENPINATA on 28TH DECEMBER 2023 5:04 PM
Guys,
Don’t have a scoobie about the potential huns new loan signing, but it can’t be worse that a certain player of ours on a very lucrative contract who can’t even make the team photograph.
*no criticism of both your offerings but there is no doubt that nobody enters those hallowed Parkhead Gates without DD’s say so, nobody, and he was allegedly instrumental in the signing of our latest “B” team player.
Tontine Tim,
Yeah, I believe you are right about DD.
Bada Bing pointed that out to me also.
Cheers & HH.
PS : £6m in the year 2000 is now equivalent to over £ 11m today. Back our manager.
CELTIC40ME on 28TH DECEMBER 2023 5:20 PM
BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 28TH DECEMBER 2023 5:06 PM
Silva wouldn’t be shot in the arm for our fans, though, it would be seen as more like a punch in the face.
*as Michael Lee Aday once said “you took the words right out of my mouth”
TONTINE TIM @ 5:29 PM,
Quite…
There seems an incredible blame culture simmering around Parkheads Gates.
Very unbecoming many will agree.
It now seems obvious that our Chairman had nothing to do with the recruitment of our Manager and is very unsupportive of the endeavour.
We know our Executive, Captain and Major shareholder were key to the recruitment of our Manager.
This schism is at best very damaging and at worst a disaster for our Club.
We need to get behind the team, the whole team including the manager and coaches.
It is obvious we need a major overhaul in January and we need all shoulders to the wheel to get us moving in the right direction.
Hail Hail
CHAIRBHOY- do you think DD actually knows who we are playing on Saturday?
!!BADA BING!! @ 5:23 PM,
Yes you are right about the Asia Cup, as per…
When checking the Korean team, Son was not picked as a forward, so thought B78 might be correct.
However, he’s in the squad as a middy, at 31 y.o. he is no U23…
Hail Hail
Greenpinata 5:11
You don’t reckon they’d show some real intent and go for Neil Lennon?
!!BADA BING!! @ 5:46 PM,
Well surely this is the point, no doubt DD likes to see himself as the big Kahuna, yet he is far too detached to be as hands on and as relevant as some think.
There is obviously a powerful Scottish cabal within Celtic that are in day to day control on proceedings.
It looks like an Augean Stable of over the hill studs that needs clensing out…
You are right about Big Pedro though, if BR doesn’t survive how does PL? He did his son no favours in the summer.
Hail Hail
TONTINE TIM on 28TH DECEMBER 2023 5:35 PM
Its pretty much nailed on the support will be disappointed come February 2. EPL cast-offs wont do it.
Signing 4 first team starters will be difficult enough, having a 100% success rate with them is not going to happen.
I get why Brendan has done it but he’s set us all up for a heap of disappointment and a pretty fractious mood
CHAIRBHOY on 28TH DECEMBER 2023 5:43 PM
TONTINE TIM @ 5:29 PM,
*well to be perfectly honest I was against his return in fact I despised him and labelled him fraudgers the minute I saw him in the Foxes Directors Box and wished him nothing but horrible luck, as far as my religion is concerned its not blind faith, but with the Celtic evidently it is.
Same old Celtic always signing
Full backs in recent times
Taylor
Ralston
Bernabei
Juranovic
Scales
Kenny
Toljan
Boli Bolingoli
Laxalt
Bauer
Lustig
Montgomery
Frimpong
Izaguirre
El Khaddouri
Braafheid
Hayes
Uroghide
Elhamed
Gutman
Perez
Gamboa
Blackett
Janko
Blackman
Tierney
Gershon
Matthews
Juarez
Du Ri
Mulgrew
Everyone a winner CSC
They like their statements down Ibrox way, it makes them feel like a big, progressive club . In the heady days of their predecessor, it was Tore Andre Flo , nowadays it’s Aaron Ramsey and Silva .
If reports are to be believed , we were also approached by Silva’s agent but said no thanks . Hopefully the last transfer window has taught us lessons about spending our money more wisely. Unlike Sevco, we don’t need grand ‘Emperors new clothes’ signings but we do need quality.
TONTINE TIM @ 5:57 PM,
Well thanks for being so candid and sincere, obviously they are many with similar views, and as I remember your views from the first time around then it doesn’t surprise.
Likewise Celtic40me, while not being apoplectic at BR coming back, he wasn’t far off it.
Yet, are we really in a situation where we want the Secovians to win on Saturday and to get ahead of us in the league to make our manager look bad!?
This has gone way beyond reason.
Though it now looks obvious there are people in important positions at Celtic Park that seem to think just that.
Biting off your nose to spit your face is never a good look…
Thanks once again for being to the point and although I don’t agree, I certainly can empathise with where you are…
Hail Hail
CHAIRBHOY on 28TH DECEMBER 2023 6:13 PM
I think your memory is playing tricks on you again. He had my full support.
He still does, which doesn’t mean I wont criticise when I feel its warranted
I’d be a fraud and a fool if I didnt
Willie Wallace joined the Hoops from Hearts
i’d take a punt on LS
CHAIRBHOY- we are going into the bad old days again, Ange and Nicholson, McKay looked like a fresh start,signing guys early (good or bad),looked like forward planning for the CL……now we have a Chief Scout with zero experience, but his surname matters, and Lawwell back as ‘Chairman on a paltry salary ‘, negotiating with CCV ‘s agent…..meanwhile Dermot Desmond will be playing golf in Bermuda, and couldn’t name 2 current players, this could end very badly for all
!!BADA BING!! on 28TH DECEMBER 2023 6:31 PM
CHAIRBHOY- we are going into the bad old days again, Ange and Nicholson, McKay looked like a fresh start,signing guys early (good or bad),looked like forward planning for the CL……now we have a Chief Scout with zero experience, but his surname matters, and Lawwell back as ‘Chairman on a paltry salary ‘, negotiating with CCV ‘s agent…..meanwhile Dermot Desmond will be playing golf in Bermuda, and couldn’t name 2 current players, this could end very badly for all
* as the song says “no nae never no nae never no more” we WERE in a wee blip but have clawed our way back out again and no matter what we will still be top of the League cum January 2024, that I have no doubt.
Steve Winwood, Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker, and Ric Grech CSC
As long as he’s Celtic manager he’ll get my support.
As long as Ive been on CQN I have supported the manager, whoever it is – anything else is counter-productive imo.
Agreed with people when it was WGS get tae, Mowbray, Lenny in the TIAR season. Made myself pretty unpopular with some regular posters when Lenny was struggling. Held my tongue in the Summer before BR left. Argued with everyone when Ange was getting it when he first came. Probably a bit too agtrreesivly for some
When he was appointed this time round BR got my full support on here. It’ll carry on but that doesn’t mean he’s above the sort of criticism that you dont like to see.
If you can find evidence of what you’re claiming I’ll hold my hands up but I’m pretty sure you wont