The Daily Record today report the contents of a document drawn up after a meeting between the SFA, the SPL, the SFL and Sevco suggesting “punishments for Rangers for the Employment Benefit Trust tax dodge used by Sir David Murray’s regime to pay players”.
The document details that Rangers would be stripped of titles and trophies ‘won’ by the club while they fielded illegally registered players, described by the Record as “the harshest ever seen in football”.
While Rangers EBTs had been in the news for close to two years, it was Celtic Quick News who first raised the question of Rangers players being illegally registered in an article on 22 February this year. Clubs are required to note all payments players receive in connection to football with both the SFA and SPL as part of the player registration process. Failure to register EBT payments is completely separate to the legality or otherwise of how the EBT was conducted, and until we raised the issue, there was no question over player registration, and no possibility of league titles being stripped.
Two weeks after Celtic Quick News brought the matter to public attention the SPL appointed solicitors Harper MacLeod to investigate the case. The subsequent report concluded Rangers had a case to answer.
There are a number of alarming aspects to today’s Daily Record report (the newspaper appears to have the main story but don’t notice its relevance):
Sevco should not be involved in any discussion around the guilt of Rangers or any subsequent consequences. Fan power in recent weeks had shown that we are not a Banana Republic. Disciplinary issues are subject to establish procedures. Any attempt to meet with a party acting on behalf of Rangers to agree an outcome with both the investigating body and the appeals body, before an independent inquiry takes place, contaminates all who participate.
Scottish football has independent judicial procedures for dealing with serious breaches of rules. Executives from the SFA and SPL have absolutely no authority to set-aside these procedures, nor are they appropriate people to act instead of the independent procedures.
Stripping Rangers of titles and trophies if they are found guilty of cheating is not a punishment; this simply reflects the legitimate winners of past trophies. When an athlete is found to have cheated to win a medal, his punishment is not the withdrawal of the medal, which is an obvious consequence of being caught, he will also face a sporting or financial penalty, often a ban.
There seems to be no end of attempts to subvert sport in Scottish football. There must be no backroom deals, not even if they bring a barrel load of trophies to Celtic, we cannot be bought-off by bling. Independent disciplinary procedures must take place.
Although Rangers failed to register players EBTs, this matter is separate from what the Record calls “punishments for Rangers for the Employment Benefit Trust tax dodge used by Sir David Murray’s regime to pay players”.
If the First Tier Tribunal (remember that?) rules that Rangers broke tax rules the club could yet face football disciplinary procedures for failing to pay social taxes.
Last month we reported that the SFA was set to remove independent judicial oversight from the game as its existence was getting in the way of their plans for ‘Rangers’. Although the Daily Record seem to be oblivious to the fact, they appear to have found documentary evidence that this is the case.
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Tim Malone
Ha – and to think not long ago the DR wanted goal line technology after a Fraser Forster wonder save.
SydneyTim
Can you post the quote were Neil Lennon said he had no money to spend.
2010 Never Again
Everywhere you look there’s a hun.
With respect to The Craic. Read on.
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The Craic
Today 03:32 AM
Former SFA President George Peat was part of the SFA board which originally cleared Jim Farry of all wrongdoing against Celtic when he deliberately delayed registration of a player in order that they could not play for Celtic FC against Rangers FC (IA). George Peat was also caught on Sky TV celebrating a goal for Rangers against Celtic. http://img690.imageshack.us/im…
Current President Campbell Ogilvie is a former employee, director, shareholder, and EBT recipient from Rangers FC (IA).
Of course, we also have the Chief Executives, such as the aforementioned Jim Farry, who was forced to resign for his anti-Celtic actions.
There’s also former Rangers FC (IA) player Gordon Smith, who joined the SFA as Chief Executive, before leaving to move back to Rangers FC (IA) as a director of football.
This is before we even start to get into the likes of SFL President Jim Ballantyne, former Rangers FC (IA) shareholder most recently spotted at a game (against Linfield) to raise funds for the Rangers Fans Fighting Fund.
Now we have Michael Johnson on the SPL board, the only SPL chairman not directly connected with Rangers FC (IA) who didn’t vote against admitting Sevco Scotland Ltd into the SPL.
Then there’s the vice chairman of the SFA Referees Committee and SFA council member David Dowling, who is openly a Rangers FC (IA) supporter, and holder of shares in Rangers FC (IA).
There’s also David Oglivie. Name ring a bell? Yup, he’s the brother of Campbell Ogilvie, and is also the SPL Operations Administrator.
I could go on, but I don’t think there’s any need.
It’s about time this little cartel of Rangers FC (IA) employees, shareholders, supporters, players and directors was busted, for the good of the game.
ASonOfDan on 18 July, 2012 at 11:11 said:
Did nacho novo write that article?
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Has evidence of an ability to write on his part been discovered? For the moment, I’m prepared to believe he “dictated” it.
HH
SydneyTim
In what paper/media outlet did NL say we had no money to spend? the last interview I saw him give……. he said his budget was not affected by the RFC saga. (that was before the vote for div3 tho)
Monaghan1900 on 18 July, 2012 at 11:21 said:
ASonOfDan on 18 July, 2012 at 11:11 said:
Did nacho novo write that article?
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It was Bomber & Jangle, today’s Woodward & Bernstein!
Damn it, they’ve found out about our secret Tim conspiracy.
And SDM was Celtic’s secret agent all along.
Many years ago we had a secret meeting with him, set up this incredible scheme in which he would takeover TFOD, bring them unknown success but unbeknowns to the great unwashed, he would use unlawful means (both in terms of SFA rules and certain tax laws etc…), all the while undermining the very existence of TFOD.
Then when SDM began to flag, CW would be thrown into the fray and finally CG to ensure the grand plot is successfully completed.
PL’s stupid idea of using agents Green and Whyte has given it all away.
I told him it was a stupid idea!
But, you must admit, he has a wicked sense of humour!
SydneyTim on 18 July, 2012 at 11:16 said:
I guess you didn’t see the article I posted this morning where Neil said he was looking to bring in a centre half, transfer window is still open..
Paul67 & anyone else who might know the answers :-)
not only have I forgotten entirely about the FTT and surely that outcome is exactly what the footballing authorities including UEFA and FIFA are waiting upon. That decision alone along with the switcherooni surely decides whether a transfer or a new application will be submitted. The last thing the football authorities want is the FTT coming back to haunt them after the switcherooni.
But I have also forgotten about BDO
Do you know when Duff & Phelps hand over to BDO ?
and when we might start hearing about any implications that they might find with regards to the sale to Whyte and Green and the intermediate period ?
I cannot see the footballing authorities deciding upon anything until those matters are cleared up.
I would imagine that the football debts will also play a heavy influence on how the football authorities determine how they will handle sevco. Green and Whyte may already have helped setup the precedent in how they will be handled. I.e as a new entity or a swap.
They start paying some of Oldco´s debts EVEN FOOTBALL DEBTS and the creditors will be all over them including HMRC.
The Appellate tribunal I feel is being overlooked.
Charles Green has ALREADY made the decision for Oldco to take the national association to court. That is still outstanding. Charles Green in this particular affair still has his hands very dirty indeed. Dirt that reeks of Oldco.
Were the rumours about Green and Whyte both being in Zürich yesterday true ?
Has the SPL paid Hearts from the huns prize money yet for Wallace and if so how can that be allowed to happen ?
I think ever single person involved in this is waiting for Charles Green to show everyone the money or for him to run out of money.
Hail Hail
KevJungle, I hear you.
Ten Men Won The League, I don’t think they are. Lots of issues at play right now, Celtic have to keep focus (unlike the rest of us who can call for resignations).
ohdannysbhoy, many thanks.
nohunlover, cheers.
bournesouprecipe, indeed.
ASonOfDan, Internet Bampot CSC.
ernie lynch, long overdue.
Chairbhoy, yes, this is how it was in the good old days!
SydneyTim, budget is set by the same rules as always: every penny that comes into the club over any business cycle will be spent. Celtic have been scrupulous in observing this rule for well over a decade and will continue to do so.
The manager has some flexibility in how this cash will be deployed (more of fees, less on wages, more now, less later, or vice versa).
I expect some movement both ways, although I didn’t see the comment from Neil you quoted.
Imatim @ 11:20,
Always surprises me that a big hitter and staunch R@ngers supporter, Mr Topping always seems to operate under the radar.
‘crushed nuts?’ ‘Naw, Layringitis!’ on 18 July, 2012 at 11:23 said:
Surely not Bomber – I didn’t need to use any asterisks.
paul asked a few days ago do you know the number of Stickets sold thusfar?
let me say this, i want celtic and all other clubs to be awarded the titles/ trophys lost if rangers are found to have run with dual contracts/ EBTs. it is unfair that rangers got to cheat and win, it is worse that, the would be winners were cheated and are not rightfully awarded their success even if it is retrospective.
newco will be playing football in the 3rd division next season i think they should face up to all oldco’s footballing debts if they plan to take oldco’s licence. but here’s the thing that does not make them oldco no matter what they say.
last week i bought jelly and ice-cream for the local shop and on friday 13th me and the family sat down to a bowl full of jelly and ice-cream. in that bowl there was a spoon. now after eating that jelly and ice-cream, i cleaned the bowl and the spoons. this week i again bought jelly and ice-cream and the family sat down to a full bowl of jelly and ice-cream, we used the same bowl, the same spoons and the jelly and ice-cream tasted the same as before, but only a moron would argue it was the same jelly and ice-cream!!!!!!!!!
i love jelly and ice-cream HH
Paul 67
We do live in a banana republic with every twist and turn of this saga we see total transparency of how this bent / biased Scottish football governing body (mafia) is keeping alive a criminal organisation that stole money from the taxpayer and refused point blank to pay its debts, being helped at every turn by these associations who are ignoring / circumventing all their own rules to accommodate this one club. Earlier this morning someone rhymed off all the people from the SFA, SFL who have been caught cheating or have strong connections / bonds with this club, it is breathtaking to watch the audacity of these people as they work to save their beloved zombie RFC.
Monaghan 1900
Thanks for posting that…
i was starting to think about drawing a line under the whole saga and be content with Div 3.But there is no reasoning that will ever get through to this mob…not all of them of course but a sizable minority.
They really have no place in any modern society.
HH
Paul the only way we can move on from this mess if Regan, Doncaster, Ballantyne, Longmuir and Ogilvie resign.
It just goes to show just how badly the huns have screwed this all up.
Despite having the key agents in the most important positions throughout all the football authorities (& beyond) they still managed to commit kill themselves off.
I recommend the following title for all books and movies which may follow:
The Winners of the Gold Darwin Award.
Bournes,
I think the big dispute was whether Neil Alexanders jumper had been ‘placed’ unsportingly with a sleeve sticking out too far – maybe they could use the goal line technology to sort out jersey placement?
thinkingoutoftheboxcsc
Titles should be left open imho as a permanent reminder and testament to what the Scottish football authorities are.
A Rangers protection racket and pension plan.
Hail Hail
Excellent point Paul 67
According our MSM when it comes to Rangers Oldco or Newco consequence is ≥ punishment !
Chairbhoy on 18 July, 2012 at 11:27 said:
Imatim @ 11:20,
Always surprises me that a big hitter and staunch R@ngers supporter, Mr Topping always seems to operate under the radar.
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2010 Never Again
Indeed.
I think there’s a few of them flying under the radar. The banking industry for one is full of them.
The thing is the huns are now totally toxic and there’s much more to come.
I’m more than sure that the men with the plan are well aware of who’s who in the zoo.
“No more” meant NO MORE. They should have listened. Stay tuned….It’s death by a thousand cuts
Paul 67 – there needs to be an end to this saga some day soon.
I’m not sure what else can be taken from Rangers, they don’t have a lot left – removing their titles and effectively their records – will hurt them a lot.
At end of day football is about ‘on the field’ success to fans. We need to end this soon or be percieved as a spiteful lot. Remove their ill gotten records and draw a line under the sorry episode is enough for me.
Sydney tim,
thats two days running you have said that Neil Lennon has said he has no money to spend,can you provide any link or quote to back this up?
paul i noticed land drilling was taking place in celtic’s car park, i presume that this is the initial stages (land survey) with a view to the celtic triange (plaza area) hard landscaping/ do you know any more?
hen1rik on 18 July, 2012 at 11:33 said:
Paul the only way we can move on from this mess if Regan, Doncaster, Ballantyne, Longmuir and Ogilvie resign.
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2010 Never Again
What if one of them may be an agent provocateur <:-))
Monaghan1900 on 18 July, 2012 at 11:28 said:
‘crushed nuts?’ ‘Naw, Layringitis!’ on 18 July, 2012 at 11:23 said:
Surely not Bomber – I didn’t need to use any asterisks.
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Jangle is Bomber’s translator!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM9F7DzIlcQ
BUSINESSMAN Craig Mather has released the following statement:
“I am delighted to have invested in The Rangers Football Club with my business partner Guy Gisborne.
“In addition to the financial investment, my sports management business, Simply Sport Management, specialises in youth players. I am confident that my colleagues and contacts within this field will prove invaluable.
“The facilities within the youth academy and training centre at Murray Park are world class and we must continually improve to ensure that the players coming through are of the same standard.
“I look forward to being part of the team rebuilding this fantastic club.”
stephbhoy
It’s a really deep hole where we’re going to bury the Huns & Sevco.
Imatim and so is Neil Lennon on 18 July, 2012 at 11:45 said:
What an interesting thought, you running a book?
awe naw….
agree with your post @ 11.37
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here’s a question, and i know the correct answer is : who really gives a s**t, but with thems having sold 600 (apparently) season tickets, will the orcs request their same seats from last year or will they herd them all in to one wee area of the ground?
how funny will it be seeing them dotted all about the stadium……the bouncy bouncy will be interesting…….that’s if they’re playing at all.
‘crushed nuts?’ ‘Naw, Layringitis!’ on 18 July, 2012 at 11:45 said:
Jangle is Bomber’s translator!
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Brilliant clip. LOL
Off oot
May God Bless Paul 67 and all the rest of The Internet Bampots :0)
Hail Hail
pedrocaravanachio67 1150
Could be worse,they could be trying to do The Huddle!
I would have thought that the alleged job cuts at ipox would make it difficult at best to have the whole stadium open on match days. Does anyone really expect a full house at their first home game? Half of them say they won’t give any money to Green.
Your article back in February was seminal in this story Paul, raising for the first time the possibility of Rangers fielding ineligible players for a decade, while also drawing attention to the various and influential roles played by Campbell Ogilivie throughout the relevant period.
Your article today is equally important, highlighting the SFA’s easy disapplication of its rules and statutes as convenience and interests dictate.
Many will focus on the issue of title stripping, retrospective awards and the various strands of the argument, but the scandal of Rangers’ invalid registration of players is the active role played by their Directors over a 10 year period in implementing the scam while acting as Directors of the Governing Bodies.
In essence, the Game in Scotland was being bent from the inside out.
By leading us to focus on the issue of titles and awards, their is a clear attempt to distract attention away from the duplicity of three gentlemen in particular:
Mr Campbell Ogilvie
Mr John McClelland
Mr Martin Bain
We have endured a decade or more of corruption in the Game in Scotland. The SFA’s singular task must surely be to protect the Game by establishing the full extent of it.
By attempting to ‘cut a deal’ away from the light of public scrutiny, the SFA continues to shield its own from the consequences of the damage they themselves wrought, and indeed, serves only to perpetuate the culture that permitted it to occur in the first place.
Keep banging that drum!
The Battered Bunnet, 11:54
There are two others to add to that list and they will be key in the HMRC war after this little skirmish is out of the way.
I wouldn’t be surprised if one ends up spilling the beans to save himself a visit to the Big House (where they serve porridge for breakfast).
Back to 92 or 88? That’s a lot of stars to unpick…
TTLT
Guy Gisborne, hmmmmmmmmmmm
Guy of Gisbourne, is a character from the Robin Hood legends of English folklore. In The Ballad of Robin Hood and Guy of Gisborne, he hunts Robin for the Sheriff of Nottingham, but Robin kills him and cuts off his head.
Another one who failed against the Bhoys in Green.
Hail Hail
I like to use the phrase “the consequences to rangers are disqualification from those tournaments” instead of using the word punishment.
A simple word or phrase like “we are being kicked when were are down”
can give the perception of being victimized and it only heightens the lack of personal/corporate ownership for the past.
Papers and phone-ins work this way. it leads the reader on a path of their own perception while they can keep clean hands.
Tictalker talking tic……… and spin doctoring