The Daily Record today report the contents of a document drawn up after a meeting between the SFA, the SPL, the SFL and Sevco suggesting “punishments for Rangers for the Employment Benefit Trust tax dodge used by Sir David Murray’s regime to pay players”.
The document details that Rangers would be stripped of titles and trophies ‘won’ by the club while they fielded illegally registered players, described by the Record as “the harshest ever seen in football”.
While Rangers EBTs had been in the news for close to two years, it was Celtic Quick News who first raised the question of Rangers players being illegally registered in an article on 22 February this year. Clubs are required to note all payments players receive in connection to football with both the SFA and SPL as part of the player registration process. Failure to register EBT payments is completely separate to the legality or otherwise of how the EBT was conducted, and until we raised the issue, there was no question over player registration, and no possibility of league titles being stripped.
Two weeks after Celtic Quick News brought the matter to public attention the SPL appointed solicitors Harper MacLeod to investigate the case. The subsequent report concluded Rangers had a case to answer.
There are a number of alarming aspects to today’s Daily Record report (the newspaper appears to have the main story but don’t notice its relevance):
Sevco should not be involved in any discussion around the guilt of Rangers or any subsequent consequences. Fan power in recent weeks had shown that we are not a Banana Republic. Disciplinary issues are subject to establish procedures. Any attempt to meet with a party acting on behalf of Rangers to agree an outcome with both the investigating body and the appeals body, before an independent inquiry takes place, contaminates all who participate.
Scottish football has independent judicial procedures for dealing with serious breaches of rules. Executives from the SFA and SPL have absolutely no authority to set-aside these procedures, nor are they appropriate people to act instead of the independent procedures.
Stripping Rangers of titles and trophies if they are found guilty of cheating is not a punishment; this simply reflects the legitimate winners of past trophies. When an athlete is found to have cheated to win a medal, his punishment is not the withdrawal of the medal, which is an obvious consequence of being caught, he will also face a sporting or financial penalty, often a ban.
There seems to be no end of attempts to subvert sport in Scottish football. There must be no backroom deals, not even if they bring a barrel load of trophies to Celtic, we cannot be bought-off by bling. Independent disciplinary procedures must take place.
Although Rangers failed to register players EBTs, this matter is separate from what the Record calls “punishments for Rangers for the Employment Benefit Trust tax dodge used by Sir David Murray’s regime to pay players”.
If the First Tier Tribunal (remember that?) rules that Rangers broke tax rules the club could yet face football disciplinary procedures for failing to pay social taxes.
Last month we reported that the SFA was set to remove independent judicial oversight from the game as its existence was getting in the way of their plans for ‘Rangers’. Although the Daily Record seem to be oblivious to the fact, they appear to have found documentary evidence that this is the case.
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£700m
Summer Football wins my vote!
Dundee Utd v Everton postponed until tomorrow due to waterlogged pitch.
The maniac orcs on ff must’ve been watchin’ this en masse last night :
‘Springtime for Hitler..’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
philvisreturns on 18 July, 2012 at 12:42 said:
Sodomatrimony? That one you made up yourself?
How can we have marriage equality when some people are allowed to get married and some are not?
Paul67 et al
If true, and there does seem to be specific details, then it is more evidence to show just how far the SPL and the SFA were prepared to go to enable Rangers, in some form or another, to continue, first in the SPL, and if not, in the top division of the SFL. I think it shows how desperate Charlie Green was to place his company at or near the top division in Scottish football. The attempts by Regan and Doncaster to panic the leagues and the clubs into accepting a fait accompli re Sevco are more to do with the realisation, on Green’s part that far from a phoenix like rise from the ashes, his new company would struggle without the SPL. And not, as the MSM in Scotland would have it, the other way round.
Apparently the ole Ragers Ladies team is more successful than the mens.
Marriage is an ancient sacrement, I’m with philvis on this one.
Paul67: “If a CQN article leads to Tony Mowbray becoming a league winning Celtic manager, what should we turn to next?”
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It’s a tricky one: water into wine has been done.
BSR -is there a newco Glee Club? Or are they still comin’ out with the same ole same ole.
Dead and Loving it
work ahead of schedule
jumpers for goalposts CSC
Archdeaconsbench from previous thread.
I have a good few 80s Celtic videos I could help you out with.
Mick
HH
Philvis,
What on earth is wrong with polygamy, you swivel-eyed Islamophobic racist??
Joe Filippis Haircut on 18 July, 2012 at 12:47 said:
.However,I also know the Bible condems it now if the t he Bible is truly the word of God ought not we to be following it ?
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There’s a great big if in the middle of that statement.
Would following the bible include things like allowing slavery and banning clothes made from mixed fabrics?
Joe Filippis Haircut – The same sex marriage debate
It’s not really a debate Joe.
For most of the participants, it’s not even about “marrage equality”. For the chattering PC classes, it’s rarely “about” the cause du jour.
What it’s “about” is social status seeking via ostentatious altruism. A significant minority of the population finds the need to volubly express its imagined moral superiority over the rest of us dumb proles. Pharisees and teenage girls will always be with us.
If we give in to their demands, they’ll just find some other, even dafter, reason to accuse everyone else of being awful racist, sexist, homophobes, while inviting flattering comparisons to their own right-thinking piousness. (thumbsup)
Come on Bhoys give credit where credit is due newco did a giant killing act last night a third division side beating a first division side doesnt happen very often.H.H.
paul tahnsk for the reply, i was wrong it was not Neil quoting, but was an article from express. With neil moving on a lot of players, can you comment that the aticle below is false
CELTIC manager Neil Lennon is set to lose out on two of his top summer targets – Simon Cox and Kim Bo-Kyung.
Cardiff City agreed terms with South Korean winger Kim yesterday, while striker Cox has already opened talks with Blackburn Rovers, one of a number of clubs who are in the hunt for his signature.
Republic of Ireland international Cox has been a long-term target for Lennon but he needs to sell before he can get anywhere near West Brom’s £1.5million asking fee.
The Hoops boss confirmed his interest in £2m-rated Kim last week but a lack of financial muscle has scuppered that bid.
The most likely big-name candidates for the Parkhead exit appear to be QPR target Ki Sung-Yueng, Anthony Stokes, who has options in Russia, and Victor Wanyama, who has been linked with a host of top English clubs including Newcastle.
If Lennon is to add to his squad just now then it will have to be free transfers, forcing him to put his interest in £4m-rated Huddersfield Town striker Jordan Rhodes on ice.
sorry for spalling mitakes, Keybaord a litle sticky
Any minute now they’ll be coming to sedate me but I’m with ole canalamar and Philvis on this.
The Church must be allowed to decide what it constitutes as a ‘marriage’ [ which implies involvement by a faith] as opposed to a civil partnership.
Fortunes Favour Mibbes – What on earth is wrong with polygamy, you swivel-eyed Islamophobic racist??
Polygamy is great… if you’re rich and powerful.
Not such a great deal for men of ordinary means when all the good women are monopolised. Society benefits by rationing spouses.
Philvisreturns, looking out for the little guy. (thumbsup)
DBBIA
A newco glee club would be like a new signing. Mark Hateley
BSR -doesn’ t Mark mean ‘a new singing’?
Fair does to the lad, his heid must be up his a#se with recent events.
Charles Green is reported to have off the radar stealth.
Paul67,
Another excellent and very important article today.
More clarification admist the continued obfuscation being piddled out by the usual suspects.
Male homophobes should be forced to accept a mandate.
jumpers for goalposts CSC
*new sig – when i don’t forget*
Just logged on,does anyone know who the referee was between Sevco and Airdrie,would be interesting to know.
Paul67
Regarding titles being awarded to second placed team Inter were give the title over Juvetus in 2005-6. This title awarded through the courts following the Calciopoli scandal
philvis @ 12:57
:) Glad you are looking out for the little guy, but if polygamy was legal, then 10 of the wee guys could marry one unselfish, affection-generous dame.
Problem solved.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
I thought a civil partnership gave you the exact same rights as a marriage?
Another case of a minority wanting to be treated the same as everyone else but still want to be treated as special and different when it suits their purposes.
I’m looking for off the radar health
This is EXACTLY what ff is and represents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cui6NbO9kPw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
DBBIA,
A church should be allowed to define what it means by marriage. But what right does it have to make everyone else accept that definition?
Some churches would be quite happy to conduct same sex marriages. Why should they not be allowed the freedom to do so?
SydneyTim
You are basing Celtic’s finances on an article from a hun in the express!
lol!
Why don’t you log on to Follow Follow and quote them, they are always a 100% accurate as well when it comes to Celtic news…
fanad
Not sure who the ref was but apparently he cautioned an Airdrie player for whispering Division 3 in Lee Wallace’s ear.
Gordon J . I am not making a case for one side or other but I am genuinely confused and if there were to be a referendum I wouldnt know what way to vote.H.H.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
If you don’t like what the church says then you just don’t go and have a civil ceremony when it comes to it. You don’t tell them to change their entire belief system when it has hee-haw to do with you.
So while we are playing a wee diddy team like Ajax in the Amsterdam Arena live on TV, SevCo have a behind closed doors fixture at Murray Park against Albion Rovers
Just what is going on at CP?
Sack the Board!
Don’t know if this will contribute much to the marriage debate, but…
Alexander the Great used to encourage homosexuality amongst his troops, and indeed, practiced it himself with his generals, specifcally before battles.
My own conclusions are that it was a clever tactical ploy to ensure his army approached the battlefied, not with untethered aggression, but rather with a tempered aggression, thus improving thought processes during man to man battle and limiting the debilitating nature of reckless emotional anger.
What I’m getting at, is that mibbes Moisty should be considering this approach during the on-field battles of zombie fc in the 3rd division?
It’s worth repeating Jeremy Paxman style.. but would David Murray care to answer ANY questions?
We start with easy ones like the ticketus deal… I know Craigie was pushed to the front but mmmmm I’m not certain all is clear..
But I m certain the Scottish media , will not let Minty sleep easily and will pester him every second for answers..
Strange too Mr Regan should stop wanting to tweet…
I can’t wait for all the answers!!
HH