Just two years after winning their first trophy, FC Nordsjælland from Denmark qualified for last season’s Champions League group stage. They drew one and lost five of their games and were on the receiving end of one of the Champions League’s worst ever piece of sporting behaviour, by a Shakhtar Donetsk player. Cash wise, they did all right.
They received €8.6m for reaching the group stage and €500k performance bonus but they also received 11.3m euro from the market pool. By comparison, Benfica received €2.3m, while Porto and Anderlecht each received 3.2m. Nordsjælland’s opponents in next week’s third qualifying round, Zenit, received €6m from the market pool, while Celtic received €8m.
Celtic, Nordsjælland and Ajax (€9.8m) benefited from being their country’s only participate in the group stage, and from having television deals which are comparatively better than their east European competitors (Bate Borisov earned €290k).
Juventus and Milan, being Italy’s only two representatives, cleaned up, earning €44.8m and €36.2m respectively from the market pool. By comparison, Arsenal, one of four from England, earned a more modest €15.8m.
In short, the lesson is, if you come from an small west-European league and want to earn money from the Champions League, it’s far better to be the only competitor from your territory. We shouldn’t forget this among all the complaints about having to play three qualifying rounds due to the lack of success in Europe by other Scottish clubs.
On the subject of which, good luck to St Johnstone tonight.
Gary Hooper wanted to go to Norwich City in January but the club, knowing his desire to leave Glasgow, offered a little over £2m for his services. In stepped the unintended stalking-horse, QPR boss, Harry Redknapp, who met Celtic’s valuation and forced Norwich City’s hand. City have returned to the table with an acceptable bid.
One rash club can cause havoc in the transfer market, even when they don’t buy a player.
Training for 1254125 10k is now underway. See yesterday’s article for sign-up details.
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been one of the biggest defenders of the GB on here and other forums, but you cant defend the undefendable, dig out the banger(pun intended) and hand him over, we have a few fines hanging over us, could be a big one this time….really stupid…
and before anyone say’s why the GB? it clearly came from that section,and the fact up until the 1st one went off they were being stewarding with very few stewards afterwards there were dozens.
stewarding= stewarded..are they words?
I too agree with notthebus and masty. If there are any Green Brigade members lurking, we love ye lhads but the fireworks have to stop. Ye don’t need them to create atmosphere, ye are costing the Club ye love valuable resources. Get the message across to the few who are bringing them in, STOP IT NOW.
Kilbowie Kelt
from
“hitting the turf” by David Ashforth
Ashforth’s appreciation for pathos comes through in an interview with Peter Poston, some years after Poston had quit training. He “had a theory about breeding. If you went back far enough (about 300 years), every racehorse traced back to the Godolphin Arabian or the Byerly Turk or the Darley Arabian. That meant they all had the same breeding, more or less. What was the point of paying a lot of money for a racehorse when you could get virtually the same horse for almost nothing?”
This being Ashforth’s world, the theory turns out to be excellent but Poston ends up “in a tiny caravan in somebody’s front garden” just the same. Having bought Athene for 140 guineas as a yearling, Poston then fails to win a race with her and gives her away as a prize in a £1 raffle. “It was a very generous gesture,” Ashforth records, because Athene would later give birth to Rheingold, winner of the 1973 Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe.
masty is neil lennon
14:22 on
25 July, 2013
‘http://www.hounslowchronicle.co.uk/west-london-news/local-hounslow-news/2013/07/25/109642-33654868/’
I can’t imagine such a report about us appearing in a Scottish newspaper, whatever the circumstances.
As I’ve said before, we would get a fairer crack of the whip in England than in Scotland.
Rebekah from the crew doing her thang with Dark Chambers, out now on Beatport
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woCU85fy64A
Quite right Ernie. However we are stuck here. How the anti Celtic bigots will struggle with our domination.
Smashing story, Twists….. Sod’s Law right enough.
I used to love it when Peter got a winner, not that I would be likely to have backed it.
Since NL confirmed a £7m bid in January i think Paul means they returned this summer with a £2m bid and thankfully QPR have forced their hand. There are very few people on this planet who would turn down a move from SPL to EPL and more than double your wages. I wish him all the best. We simply have to hang on to the buy low / sell high policy until any regionalisation of European football presents an opportunity.
Hope we are looking for better than Doyle. Money should be there for a youngish £5m striker but wages are obviously key. So Remy on a reported £100k a week. Cisse £50k or £60k. Neither will happen and they won’t be short of better offers than Scotland. Champions league isn’t guaranteed
Why does anyone think that the GB will pay any attention to what anyone says?
They haven’t before.
They think they have a right to do whatever they want and when pulled up, they play the victim card.
The ” they are only lads line” doesn’t work.
Stupid impressionable young people ate being manipulated by politically motivated old fashioned guys, who don’t have a viable platform in society to advance their agenda.
They latched on to the gullible within our support, with the hook that they provide great craic and atmosphere at the games.
What will it take for some of you guys to realise that you are being played like a fiddle?
The Celtic support arebigger and better than that and shoud not be used as a politacal platform by any grouping, right, left or centre.
It appears to me that the GB’s agenda is to embarrass and damage the club’s standing the length and breadth of the Continent.
Why?
Has Stokes signed his contract yet?
KK
Do you remember Arthur Budgett?
Just askin, cos he trained the first winner I ever backed when I was a mere bhoy about 9 y.o. I guess.
Yet…when I tell people..they say .. “Arthur who?”
I now know what your next post will be by the way…..I’m psychotic…
DJM_1888
13:12 on
25 July, 2013
oglach
13:05 on
25 July, 2013
No more p**h about a certain Wolves player being better than Anto Stokes.
in 107 games for Celtic Anto has scored 47 goals – work out the maths. If someone started a rumour that we we looking to sign a striker with a similar goal to game ratio for 3 million we’d be be happy Bhoys.
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Well said.
We’ve already signed one striker (Balde) and we are losing one striker (Hooper).
Initial reports on Balde aren’t setting anyone alight, but he needs time. Hooper actually one of the rare Celtic signings that was able to settle in right away.
Between Stokes, Samaras, Watt, Commons, Balde we’ve got players who can do the job.
No we have not.They can score goals but are not prolific scorers.We need a striker who is razor sharp at his trade.Nothing else will suffice.If we fail to qualify through penny pinching then we dont deserve to be at the big boys table.
When we had no money,I would go along with our system,but not now.If Hooper goes we will have taken in £23.5 million in fees for 3 players.Surely to god we can splash out decent money on a goalscorer.
The proof of the pudding; another wee tale from Ashforths book;
In Hitting The Turf, he discusses the ancient racing adage about “the outsider of three”, according to which a surprisingly large number of three-runner races are won by the least fancied horse.
Detailed analysis is in pretty short supply in horse racing but Ashforth had the bad manners to actually count the number of times the system came good during the 1991 Flat season. From 75 races, the outsider won just three, with a longest winning SP of 9-2.
“Followers of the system spent 1991 handing over £1 coins while the man on the other side of the counter kept handing back 19p. What a system,” he wrote.
“What punters should be shouting is, ‘Outsider of three stuffed again. Did you have that favourite?'”
You’ve got to love a journalist who tells us what’s happening instead of relying on hoary old fables. The Post is much better than it used to be at keeping records and facts, and its hot/cold trainers lists are fascinating, underused resources. One day, I hope, they’ll start telling us how often each jump jockey gets unseated and how often their mounts fall.
It would at least have the effect of stopping punters from guessing who would be most embarrassed by such statistics. Surely, Ashforth the exploder of myths would approve.
Green Side Up.
Thanks ,Pal.. fur the Nod.
Ah … Ah agree.. with Ye aboot the “Big Rock Candy Mountain”
That song is whit is Known In the Trade as..
A THINKING Man’s Song!
Ye may no remember.. Ah hiv no way of Knowing whether You Hiv bin a Long-Time
Subscriber or no .. tae this Hallowed Spot in the BlogoSphere..
But..
During , The Murray Years, Specifically…in His Govan Years…. way,way back when..
Ah used that Particular Song.. The Big Rock Candy Mountain..
Tae ..Allegorize.. My thoughts of Whit wiz Going oan at Ibrox, during those Early Halcyon Days.. of Fun and Frolics… under the Stewardship of Mr. Murray.
The G.A. in Ma opinion and In Sir Paul’s.as well///at that time..
Wiz..
We baith Wur..Of the Firm Belief..( Ye kin Ask Him.aboot this)
That ,Eventually, Murray wiz gonna Go Tae DONKEY ISLAND..( which He DID, INDEED!)
and Awe the G.A. supporters wur Being fed .. Pure PABLUM..
Fur Ah believed..ALONG WITH SIR PAUL.. that Long Time Ago..
That the G.A. were Living in a FOOL’S PARADISE..
Jist like.. well.. in “The Big Rock Candy Mountain”
In fact, Ah used tae Refer tae Ibrox Park..
As the Big Rock Candy Mountgain.
Very Prophetic?
Sure it wiz… But .. Sir Paul And I.. Preached that a Fall wiz Comin’ fur Mr. Murray..and his Happy Band of Rakes And Vagabonds.
Which ..it Did.
Anyway.. Nice Chatting..
Kojo
Still.. Laughin’
Of course I do, Twists.
Hard to not remember a man who bred & trained 2 Derby winners.
Shrewd operator.
KK
You have restored my faith..cheers:-)
Club threatening to close Section111,
But after discussions with GB it will stay open and be monitored.
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The Green Brigade have enough people against them without using flares or bangers, which will result in loss of support from a lot of the Celtic support. As somebody who loves the atmosphere they bring and have witnessed on many occasions the harassment they endure. They have my support but I plead with anybody of any influence on those who want this, to explain how it damages them, the club and is not wanted by the vast majority of the support.
http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=4330
Details of problem just issued by club in a fair statement 5 mins ago.
p
By the way, Twists.
I was an old guy of 11 when I had my first bet.
A tanner ( NO, not a tenner ) on Fisherman’s Cove.
Yes, of course it won…11/2.
Easy game.
My final wee excerpt from the book…(no I’m not his agent)
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At the start of Hitting The Turf, he offers his own alternative “punter’s glossary”, from which these samples are taken:
“Betting shop: Place for depositing your money. In that respect, similar to a bank.
“Each-way: Opportunity to lose twice in one bet.
“Form book: Historical work, useful for predicting what will happen in the past.
“Starter: Official who drops a flag to indicate that hope has ended and experience is about to begin.”
Twisty
Arthur Budgett
Morston won the benson and Hedges at York?
I bet it, as I did the rare occasion Peter Poston had a good one.
My cousin was in the stable.
Dire Straits 33/1 at Hamilton as a wee boy. The bookie took my ten bob note and said, “hope you win son”. It did.
The horse I mentioned earlier, Homefield was a front runner, going 20 lengths clear in a distance race only to fade to last when the race got serious. Again, however, given the nod, the old nag would occasionally keep on right up to the line. Eventually made it to Ascot I recall.
Grand old times.
Raffingora 10st 5lbs in the sprint cup at Lanark. 100/30.
EC67
Kojo
15:05 on 25 July, 2013
I do remember you making reference to Ipox as the mountain before and prophetic it was too
chat soon
gsu
You know what, I was never a huge Kevin Doyle fan, looking at his stats, he’s a 1goal in 3 games striker at best. I know he’d be likely to up that ratio in the SPL and I know he has 50+ international caps, but I don’t think he’s the out n out scorer to replace hooper.
But while I’m on the subject of someone outside our current signing policy;
Just because we have the ‘signing young players for low prices to play for a couple of years then make a tidy profit’ policy doesn’t mean EVERY player must fit this profile, or does it?
Surely if a player with experience can be bought cheaply with wages that fall within our range he could be bought?
Not football related :))
Kilbowie Kelt & twists n turns
Listening to yous going down memory lane I looked up on you tube (wonderful thing)
this from 1975.
Hitite glory 100/1, I was 14 and before I seen clip I could remember the colours the jockey and who was the losing favouirte (no wonder I only bet a celtic goalscorer for a wee interest now) :))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P48cHcbfHF4
thomthetim: ‘It appears to me that the GB’s agenda is to embarrass and damage the club’s standing the length and breadth of the Continent.’
Ditch the drama queen act ya balloon.
The bangers need to stop but you can’t hold a whole group responsible for the actions of 1 or 2, unless you have an agenda against them of course.
Eurochamps
It was Lanark races that got me hooked. My dad dropped me off in the car and gave me some money, and set off home to collect more family. I backed a winner when he was away. (across the card)
Anyhow, the colours, the buzz, the horses themselves, the whole atmosphere just hooked me in, and by 12 years old I was running the “clocks” for a bookies in Bathgate.
Most people would see me getting on and off the bus carrying a metal box, but few were aware it contained the clock and the money.
that sounds like a final warning to me
Whit is Wrang wi the G.B?
Ah am gled that Ye asked..
Oh Brother. Ah am So Gled.. aboot that!
Welll
This is whit is Wrang wi the G.B.
Noo. feel Free tae tak Notes..
Fur.. There wull be a Pop Quiz.. tomorrow Morning!
The Green Brigade ur a
POLITICAL ORGANIZATION.. in the Guise of A Fitba’ Supporters Organization.
Don’t Believe Me?
“By thur Fruit ye wull Know Them”.. who Said That..? No Me, that’s fur Sure,
fur Ah seldom eat the Stuff..
Look..
If ye don’t believe me..
Tak a wee Donner.. over tae Thur Website..
and ye soon Wull get A Taste of That Fruit, that that Unknown Guy ,wiz Atalkin Aboot..
Yep…
The Green Brigade… are a Danger.. tae the Celtic cause.
Anybuddy,by the way..
ever seen that Movie.??
“Green Fur Danger”
Naebuddy…Hmmmmmmmmm Jist thought Ah wid ask.
Kojo
Still, Laughing.
How to introduce more self policing from the GB. Bill them for the damaged seats. After each game bill them for 75% (allow for some natural damage) of the damaged seats and close the section until it’s paid up.
I was more startled by the new Tannoy system than I was with the Fireworks.
However if UEFA seem more vigilant about bangers than frauds, then we have to box clever.
Thomthetim
Im sure the tifo at the Barca match was a cause of huge embarrasment to the club all over the continent.
I wonder who was behind that.
Surely one of the 200 hundred camera’s trained on Section 111 can be used to identify and horse out the offender(s)?
Loved watching the Green Brigade when I was back in Glasgow last year, but if they start hurting Celtic’s performance off the pitch the good will will soon be gone.
leftclicktic
not sure why but as soon as I clicked on that link you supplied, the ITV 7 jumped into my head. Must be the commentators voice.
Sadly, there are supporters who have done more harm to Celtic’s image in the last week than has been done for many a long day. Just when the Rankers supporters are at their lowest we give them a stick to beat us with. All I know about the GB is that they can create a fantastic atmosphere but now there are serious questions over other issues. How can they get the balance right????