Nothing gained from playing Kyogo and McGregor


Bayer Leverkusen manager, Gerardo Seoane, summed the game up, “We also made some mistakes, but we had [goalkeeper]Lukas Hradecky saving us, it was a sensational game from him.

“The victory was earned. Maybe the scoreline was a little bit too high, but we deserved to win.”

Celtic were back to their flowing best in the opening 25 minutes but confidence, composure and any chance of competing in the knockout stages of the Europa League evaporated when Leverkusen took the lead.  The home side regrouped at halftime and again took the game to the Germans, but the unfortunate loss of a penalty brought that resurgence to a juddering halt.

It is a worry that the heads go down when a goal is lost; the same happened a week ago at Livingston.  As well as everything else, a resilience gene is missing from this Celtic team.

We will know by Sunday evening the wisdom of playing Kyogo Furuhashi and Callum McGregor last night.  Nothing was gained from their appearance.  Kyogo was thrice through with Leverkusen keeper Lukas Hradecky to beat but could not convert.  Still, his impact on Celtic remains transformational.

Leading up to his second great chance, he opened play up with a sublime touch that switched the ball to Liel Abada.  No striker in recent Celtic history could do things like that.  Jota continues to settle into his new surroundings.  Leverkusen defenders quickly learned to back off him and to send reinforcements when the ball went to Celtic’s left.  A front three of Jota, Kyogo and Abada has a great deal of promise.

Oh David, what happened?  Turnbull seemed caught in two minds, between clearing the ball out of his box and allowing it to run out of play.  Playground stuff that would have me overcome with paranoia if it happened in certain domains.  I don’t think I have seen as poor a goal against Celtic, Leverkusen must have wondered what happened as much as the rest of us.

From that moment, the collapse seemed inevitable.  Our full backs were well up field when 3 v 2 left Joe Hart exposed for the second; halftime could not come soon enough.  Hart played well throughout, without him, our season would look in far greater danger.

Expectations were so low I think we had all emotionally factored a result like that in.  Despite what in any language is a drubbing, we were able to create better chances (against a far better team) than we have in recent weeks.  With Kyogo and McGregor back, the worst of this slump will be behind us.  The return of Juranovic, Taylor, Forrest and Jullien will help, but central midfield will remain light until January.

The season could pivot one way or the other on Sunday, we will find out then if the corner has been turned.

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  1. Tom McLaughlin on




    15 minutes past midnight BST so by my reckoning Friday is over.


    Has Ange resigned yet?


    Tactless, baseless stirring by one poster earlier this week quoting KDS that he would.


    Who needs the SMSM when we have mean spirited quislings among us to foment unrest?



    Not only did MADMITCH give credence to a ridiculous, lazy rumour. He then went on to slaughter Ange and the club as if it was a fait accompli as opposed to scurrilous tittle-tattle.







    So true. We have far too many `supporters` who are all too keen to reinforce the propaganda of an obviously Sevco Supporting Media in Scotland.





    I think I am now scrolling past more posts than I am reading.

  3. Sionnaigh,



    Thanks for the music.



    Agree on the assimilated Tim’s coupled with lack of capability to think for themselves.



    I seen it during the Troubles where very few had an understanding of history and what was happening. Brainwashed esp with nothing upstairs. Now they understand a bit better …



    Irish in England , some kept some roots others kept their head down and you can’t distinguish them from the Chelsea fans.



    Free thinking and not following like sheep is important ; applies to the mess of Celtic last year, the continual decline and this seasons effort which will end before the pantomime season.





    The Scots word for Quisling is Donaldson. True fact.

  5. Lucky Cody



    `Free thinking`.


    Is there such a thing?


    Seems to me that genetics,environment ,social mores and many other possibilities make that a fanciful idea.


    PS Was I thinking freely when I made that comment? :-)))


    Off to the golf on a very windy Arbroath day.


    Cheerio for now.

  6. Of note that 3 of the Desmond family are playing in the Dunhill links this weekend up in Fife and Tayside. Brett Desmond seems to doing well in 4th place of the non professionals as of this morning.

  7. LUCKY CODY on 2ND OCTOBER 2021 9:12 AM



    ‘Irish in England , some kept some roots others kept their head down and you can’t distinguish them from the Chelsea fans.’







    It’s called assimilation.



    Generally regarded as a good thing. It doesn’t required abandoning your cultural roots and heritage. But it generally doesn’t happen if the host community are predominantly hostile.



    Not sure what you mean by ‘the Chelsea fans’. Most are OK, though there’s a minority of right wing, racist, nativist, nationalist types. In their heads they are concerned about preserving their racial and cultural purity. Go figure.

  8. Morning .



    Another weekend of exciting football ahead …..hopefully we take the chances we create and give our much maligned defence a bit of breathing space .

  9. Over..and...Over on

    JACKIEMAC I think one good defensive midfielder with a good engine, also a left back and we are on our way.



    CARDBOARDCSC Fair enough although in my humble opinion he is raw, very raw ( Liam Scales ) and will be loaned out in January to get some game time and hopefully more experience, so as he can turn into the player we all want him to be.

  10. Please support if possible :::::



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    Garry’s family, like so many others in our world today, is not a rich family and find their wealth is through the happiness of the family, so to have the burden of not only laying Garry to rest, but also the cost that goes with it is horrific .



    Having spoken with Garry’s son Ryan, we feel it appropriate to pass any monies raised direct to the family to let them decide the best way to use it.



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  11. Sceptical Citizen



    Curious you speak of MON as being pragmatically effective Eg Beachball Sunday. …… one of my favourite visits to ibrox for sure.



    I loved that he turned the tables in his first year and will always regard that achievement as it should be but I would say ultimately his style proved ineffective for long term success winning only 4 trophies ( 2 leagues ) in as many seasons after his initial season. He also failed to get us to the champions league knockouts in 5 seasons with a bigger budget than anytime in our history and he had Henrik Larson.



    Strachan had none of these and was on a reduced budget and vs EBT fuelled rangers. Yet still won 3 leagues and reached the last 16 twice playing pragmatically. Maybe not ange style but results driven.

  12. Not meaning to start a Strachan v MON debate. Both have their positive place in our history IMO. Just addressing the vilification of Strachan !!! His record in 4 years as our manager vs an EBT fuelled competitor was outstanding.

  13. ERNIE LYNCH on 2ND OCTOBER 2021 9:16 AM






    The Scots word for Quisling is Donaldson. True fact.



    The English for quisling is Blair!explain that marketing exercise you may find out why your unelectable unionists with not a schard of socialism in youz.

  14. Burnley78



    Its all Celtic and we support every minute of it.:-)


    Let no confused galloway heider direct your support.


    same confused mess talks of ‘imagined oppression’


    A denier of history.



  15. Tom McLaughlin on



    The Scots word for Quisling is Donaldson. True fact.



    Sorry but I haven’t a clue who Donaldson is. You’ve completely lost me with that comment.

  16. Tom McLaughlin on




    So what has that got to do with my response to MADMITCH telling us Ange was being sacked yesterday?



    Did you slip up and forget to change your login?

  17. TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 2ND OCTOBER 2021 12:10 PM









    Re your weird picture, I’m still none the wiser.






    Well no, you wouldn’t be.



    Better informed though.

  18. weird obsession more like.



    better informed no, just the same claptrap histroical references that mean nothing to anybody under 50 years old.

  19. Agree that WGS was brilliant for us.


    Achieved fair amount of success and managed ageing and expensive squad. Some exceptional signings.


    Not sure we fully appreciated what we had until he left.


    I’m certainly guilty of that, towards the end of his tenure.

  20. HOT SMOKED on 2ND OCTOBER 2021 8:49 AM






    I think I am now scrolling past more posts than I am reading.




    Very true…unfortunately




  21. UNCLE JIMMY-agree that wgs did well for us in winning 3n a row and getting us through the group stages in champions league.But his last season in charge was horrible to watch.

  22. Team for tomorrow…



    Hart in goal (obviously)



    Defence needs a boost in confidence.


    If we had a fit alternative to Ralston at RB I’d rest the lad. Whilst I admire his effort, his mistakes have cost us goals in recent matches.


    Unfortunately, Juranovic is crocked, and no other options likely to be explored, so we’ll have to persevere with AR for another game.



    Similarly, young Montgomery needs careful handling. A rest might do him good. Unfortunately, Taylor is also crocked – i would not argue with starting Bolingoli tomorrow.



    In midfield, please…please…please drop one of Turnbull/Rogic and play a steadier defensive midfielder (allowing Calmac more freedom to assist attacks).


    Whilst none of McCarthy-Soro-Bitton inspire me, I’d start one (probably McCarthy) and have TR on bench (he was very poor in last 2 games).



    Front 3 probably pick themselves – Kyogo and Jota are must starts. If Forrest was fit, I’d start him… but he’s not – so Abada it is.



    Just offering my opinion on football matters ;-)



    Now, back to my work.


    Will return to lurking later.




  23. During WGS era I remember numerous arguments with the young team


    I was happy with organised structure and results [the barren years stay with you]


    They wanted entertained and results


    How the game evolves I can remember back in the day when Alan Durban the Stoke Manager then addressed his own support in this manner


    “If you want entertainment buy tickets for the Circus”



  24. just watched Everton players stick up for a poor challenge on one of their players , would like to see that reaction from our team other than accepting some of the horrific challenges of late on our players.

  25. SAINT STIVS on 2ND OCTOBER 2021 12:34 PM




    ‘claptrap histroical references that mean nothing to anybody under 50 years old.’







    So when exactly did the SNP stop holding their annual memorial lecture in honour of Donaldson?



    Sturgeon gave lecture one year, didn’t she?

  26. you showed an obscure picture of some bloke I take it with either boy scouts or hitler youth that nobody on here would recognise.



    I certtainly didnt.



    cou;dnt even tell you what the donaldson lecture is.



    i suppose you would need to be a cultist to know that.



    I will give you one prize, you could bore for scotland, or the uk,

  27. SAINT STIVS on 2ND OCTOBER 2021 1:21 PM



    ‘cou;dnt even tell you what the donaldson lecture is.’







    So you’re a fan boy for the SNP constantly posting their propaganda on here but you don’t know who Arthur Donaldson is or why the party you are a member of hold him in such high regard.



    You’re either a liar or an idiot.



    Or both.

  28. i am an idiotic liar, thats it,



    fanboy of feck all.



    member of no party,



    people know who i am, never seen me at a rally or an event, or a campaign, gets that bad couldnt even tell you who my mp is,



    but you keep making that stuff up,



    rent free living in your head,

  29. Ernie,think your socialism is as malleable as mr Oswald moseleys when he was in your perty 😊


    The 30s just like now had a swing to the right


    How’s sir keev doin? Did you heckle

  30. Tom McLaughlin on




    It’s bad enough you being a Red Tory without posting pictures of boy scouts on a Celtic blog.

  31. not a cult, definately not a cult, not a cult definately not a cult,



    can somebody gie that parrot a cracker.