Campbell Ogilvie was interviewed in today’s Scotland on Sunday but he singularly failed to deflect the central criticism of him continuing as president of the SFA despite being a director of Rangers during the period they introduced the controversial EBTs and, allegedly, illegally registered players with the SFA, which Ogilvie was also a director of.
Interviewer, Andrew Smith, asked “Can you see there being an issue with you being SFA president at a time when there is an ongoing SPL investigation into non-disclosure of payments at Rangers that you are directly linked to? You were a director and the secretary who signed off the accounts in November 2001. At that time the EBT scheme was in operation and players were receiving payments that weren’t in their contracts.”
Ogilvie’s response laid bare how inappropriate the situation is: “I was secretary up until 2002. That’s correct. I was a director, that’s correct.”
All he could do in response to the question of how inappropriate his job as SFA president is when Rangers are under investigation for non-disclosure of payments he was “directly linked to” is confirm he was a secretary and director. He didn’t even offer a counter argument.
It was as though he’d been coached, badly, about what to do when you are asked a question you don’t want to answer. Simply not answering the question and making an irrelevant statement treats Scottish football fans like fools.
The truth is he did not and cannot answer the question. If Campbell Ogilvie cannot argue why there is not an issue for him continuing to be SFA president, why is he still SFA president?
Ogilvie confirmed that in March he told Andrew Smith that there were no side contracts and insisted this was “the case to the best of my knowledge”, despite Smith referring him to the recent BBC documentary, the assertions of which have not been challenged.
Readers would have been confused by this ‘knowledge’, that there were no side contracts as Ogilvie immediately denied involvement with player contracts.
This duel position, bearing witness that there were no side contracts, while denying knowledge of player contracts, is wholly inconsistent and, in itself, reasons enough to for his dismissal.
One of the most intriguing comments from Ogilvie was “I might have signed some documents from time to time. I certainly didn’t do the player negotiations, I didn’t do the contracts.”
He “might have signed some documents from time to time”. Oh dear.
If he signed some documents active in this scandal “from time to time”, for pity sake, just go. Pack your bags, apologise profusely and get out of Scottish football.
We await to hear who conducted the inquiry into Ogilvie which allowed Stewart Regan to clear Ogivlie, but if this shoddy testimony informed their decision, the scandal at the heart of the SFA has taken on a new dimension.
Rumours that the SFA did not conduct an inquiry into Campbell Ogilvie and that chief exec, Stewart Regan, spoke inappropriately in order to save the skin of his pal, remain unfounded.
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kit – why would we want anyone to be at the top of our game’s leading body if they could so easily be bullied? (or duped) Or had so poor a memory!
I haven’t heard anyone asking why Oggy got this £95K bonus or loan. What performance indicators did he tick other than the turning a blind eye to the rules variety.
My point of reposting Paul’s article about the Bobo Balde contract was that it was obvious that contracts were discussed at the SFA, whether that is ethical is another issue but my point is simply – in an organisation populated with such intelligent and qualified professional you’d think somebody would have spotted the chasm between the amounts that Celtic players were being paid as opposed their peered Rangers counterparts. In spotting such discrepancies you’d think that somebody would seek clarification.
Technological advancement doesn’t necessarily mean social progress.
We need to take care of each other;consume less,think more.
We really do.
Maggie richard iii
kit – good point. But the meeja and Regan says that he has integrity. Would go on further but am up for work in 5 hours. Nite all!
macan
Great stuff.
Shakespeare ,like youth,is wasted on the young.
But,while I hated it then,I love it now.
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 11 June, 2012 at 02:23 said:
Got back into it with helping my teenagers with their O/A levels
As an Irish Republican some of my friends think this strange ,not least the wife,but I love it .Some Great stuff on the radio if you’re interestered
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01jjtn7/Vivat_Rex_Elizabeth/
Oíche mhaith a chairde
Rangers backed to seal CVA deal by leading finance expertBy John Mcgarry
The Mail
A leading football finance expert predicted on Sunday night there was a ‘better than even chance’ of key creditors HMRC and Ticketus approving Charles Green’s CVA proposal.
The English businessman requires a minimum of 75 per cent of creditors – voting on a pound-per-vote basis – to back his plan, which is believed to offer as little as 9p in the pound.
Some 276 creditors, from small businesses owed a few hundred pounds to HMRC and Ticketus who are owed around £15million and £25m respectively, have the right to vote at Thursday’s meeting.
Given the spread of the £55m debt, however, both Ticketus and HMRC hold the balance of power as to the success or failure of the CVA.
And Neil Patey, of accountancy giants Ernst & Young, last night told Sportsmail he feels the key indicators point to the CVA proposal being carried and the club that was formed in 1872 continuing in its current form.
‘I was initially in the camp that said it was more likely than not that it (CVA) would be rejected by HMRC,’ he revealed. ‘To be honest, I’m now in the camp that thinks it’s more likely HMRC will vote it through.
‘I say that for two reasons: The way the options have been presented gives the creditors a very stark choice. It’s £8.5m gross for a CVA or £5.5m for a newco route. There’s a £3m incentive there which would probably rise to £4m by the time you take in liquidation costs.
‘They (HMRC) have been put in, let’s say, a difficult position by Duff & Phelps whereby if they want the better return, it’s going to be by a CVA.
‘In addition to that, there seems to be quite positive noises coming from Duff & Phelps and Charles Green.
‘I won’t count my chickens. There’s still a chance HMRC will reject this. But the noises and the structure of the deal lead me to believe there’s maybe a better than evens chance that HMRC will sign up to this. I feel Ticketus will be thinking along similar lines.’
If the CVA proposal is rejected, Duff & Phelps will sell the assets — primarily Ibrox and Murray Park — to Green’s consortium.
It’s anticipated disgraced owner Craig Whyte might challenge this sale in court because of a holding charge he claims to have over the assets.
But Patey believes the deal reached by the administrators and Green is watertight.
‘If that scenario unfolds, I think it’s unlikely Duff & Phelps will entertain any other offers for the assets,’ he added. ‘Duff & Phelps say that there’s a binding agreement both ways so, on the face of it, they can entertain any further offers for the assets. If they did, Charles Green would have the right to sue them.’
Green, meanwhile, stated Rangers may be able to sign players even before they come out of administration.
Ordinarily, a club is banned from signing players while in administration but SPL rules state that, with board approval, clubs may replace players whose contracts expire.
Rule 6.20 of the SPL’s regulations makes provision for signings being made in special circumstances by clubs who have suffered an insolvency event.
While there is no guarantee the SPL board would approve any signings, with several players’ contracts expiring, that could allow Rangers to use the rule to bring replacements in. ‘If you are correct, that is an avenue open to the club,’ Green said in a radio interview last night. ‘No money is required for players. Most are free because of the financial crisis across Europe.’
Green also confirmed he told a fans’ meeting on Wednesday that he has a list of 19 transfer targets, five of whom are involved at Euro 2012.
And he says he has added £1.5m to the budget Ally McCoist and Duff & Phelps had been working to for next season.
One of the names believed to be under consideration is Bolton’s Martin Petrov. The 33-year-old Bulgarian is thought to be keen on a move following Bolton’s relegation from the Premiership.
Green also confirmed a £10m stadium-naming deal with ‘an airline investor or alternative’ was under consideration. ‘I’ve been speaking to a number of people, some of whom are connected to our investors, some not,’ he added. ‘I’ve said all along, stadium-naming is an emotive issue but, whatever we do, it would always be Ibrox Stadium.’
macanbheatha on 11 June, 2012 at 02:21 said:
Now is the winter of our discotechque
Somebody has leaked that one of the companies our hero Greenie has approached with a view to sponsoring the rankers is none other than……
….Aer Lingus. Seriously.
This just gets better and better.
HH!
miki67 on 11 June, 2012 at 02:46 said:
Have Celtic been approached yet?
kitalba on 11 June, 2012 at 02:44 said:
>>>
Given the amount Satan F.C. owe other clubs for players the idea they can get anyone on other than a pay-as-you-go basis is pure fantasy,as is all the other tripe the dimwits keep spouting.
Green is a proven asset stripper,same as Whytie…nothing is surer.
” You can put lipstick on a pig. It’s still a pig.”
Margaret McGill on 11 June, 2012 at 02:49 said:
>>>
Soon!
:-)
macanbheatha on 11 June, 2012 at 02:34 said:
Thanks.
Will listen later.
Re. republicanism. Art and literature are universal and often intended to be so, and to cut across divisive issues to find truth.
Truth is beauty and beauty truth.That is all ye know and need to know.
Or words to that effect.:-)
P.S. Your children are very lucky.
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 11 June, 2012 at 02:58 said:
..and charm
Truth beauty and charm
“Three quarks for Muster Mark”
Three quarks for Muster Mark!
Sure he hasn’t got much of a bark
And sure any he has it’s all beside the mark.
Maggie
Tim Finnegan lived in Walkin street
A gentleman Irish mighty odd
kitalba on 11 June, 2012 at 02:14 said:
True
but
they
are
all
cheating
huns
whats
to
figure
oot?
Strange days indeed.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/health/cup-parade-fans-struck-down-by-legionnaires.17798129
John McGarry
a follower of the great prophet Green, I think.
Good Morning to all.
Not good weather here. It’s +21 C but cloudy.
Vmhan. I know, it’s before 6:00. Good day to you.
Good morning friends from a disappointingly wet, grey and dreasry looking East Kilbride. Still, the seagulls are loving it.
Good morning CQN from a wet/misty morning in Clydebank
C O has to go along with the rest of the SFA/SPL
What a corrupted lot they are
Keep the Faith
Hail Hail
Re the McGarry article, why would HMRC and Ticketless accept a CVA when liquidation would release a lot more cash via saleable assets ?
Why would Green be allowed access to buy the assets for £5m when Ibrox and Murray park plus players would release a lot more funds for the creditors ?
Is this not why HMRC have appointed liquidators in waiting ?
Just back from Australia and suffering fom jet lag. Where is everybody?
Aer Lingus Stadium, can you lay this one on Betfair?
Morning all from a drab North Ayrshire.
CQN must have been in meltdown last night. I couldn’t get on from midway through the game. I thought Ireland were poor, although they improved in the last quarter of an hour (maybe because the Croats eased off). Still, the singing was great.
Son of Warsaw
Totally agree
I cant see this £5m sale to Green standing especially with him openly talking about 10m for stadium naming rights
Also consider the Admin fees being worth more than the valuation of all assets? Its an absolute nonsense.
HH
LTPS
Parkheadcumsalford
A fine summary of the game my shun
LTPS
Of course it can’t be named Virgin Stadium because they have been well and truly…
All flights of fantasy cancelled till further notice.
How many teams are there in the SPL?
Whither the cash-strapped scrofulous Hillbillies the day?
Rangers in crisis: Charles Green tells Rangers fans they can sack him if they don’t like his new regime
Jun 10 2012 By Mark Guidi, Sunday Mail
CHARLES Green has told Rangers fans they will be able to SACK him if they don’t like the way he runs their club.
The Yorkshireman will take control at Ibrox this week if his CVA proposal is accepted by creditors on Thursday.
And even if that is rejected Green and his consortium will still come to power by forming a newco. (Don’t HMRC have other liquidators lined up in effect sacking Duff and Phelps)
Gers fans are extremely wary of his motives for buying the Ibrox outfit and Green totally understands why they are so sceptical.
But he insists the club would have shut down by now had he not intervened last month with an £8.3million rescue package. And Green insists the supporters are welcome to boot him out if they aren’t happy with the new regime.
He said: “If the fans don’t want us there they can buy the shares and kick us out.
“I will have a contract. If you don’t like me then sack me.
“That could never have happened before but I have done it this way so that’s exactly what can happen. The club will be listed on the stock market and if the fans want to take over that club they can. (Not until you produce audited accounts you won’t. The stock markets do take Corporate Governance seriously. Rule 51 of Plus exempts them and I don’t think the LSE would even look at them although I’m sure they like a good laugh)
“If the CVA fails this week it goes immediately to a newco type structure. You are buying the assets and property.
“Let’s assume the CVA is approved – any money that comes in during the cooling-off period that follows is all ring-fenced.
“That’s why this myth that we are using season-ticket holders’ money to buy the club is spurious. There’s no season ticket-money required to do the deal.
“The deal is completed on Thursday when we will not have received a penny from season tickets – and if the CVA doesn’t get approved I am £3m better off.
“By the end of the cooling off period we will have then raised another £30m, that’s two years’ season-ticket sales. Rangers have never had that much cash in the bank.
“But I understand why people are nervous and distrusting and I think that’s healthy. The other claim is that the money (£8.3m) is going in as loan and therefore you are going to take the money back out afterwards.
“The reason it is a loan is because I never wanted the 26,000 existing shareholders diluted and destroyed.
“Fans see this ‘loan’ and think it is something sinister but it is exactly the opposite.
“Listen, make no mistake, the club without us would have closed. I am here to do a job and I want to raise as much money for Rangers as I can.
“I don’t care where that cash comes from as long as it is legally obtained.”
The Scottish daily express has a back page header “something to Cro about” ……..just wondering why an ROI result gets this prominence, and why jellyfish is in the photo……
Are they trying to give the bhuns something to Cro about .?……will take a lot more than that……. Hilarious (did they actually pay for him..?…LOL ….!! )
I’m sure a few weeks ago C O described his EBT’s as “loans”.
Now he’s saying they were bonus payments .
Can a bonus be a loan or a loan be a bonus?……confused – maybe he is too.
Morning all from gay Paree, cloudy with showers (19C max.)
Looking forward to France vs Angleterre this evening.
Not often I say this, but “Allez les Bleus!”
RFC(ia): Time to Pay the Wages of Sin
hamiltontim on 10 June, 2012 at 23:20 said:
Cheers mate. Thought that was the case.
Poznan my Archie. :-)