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Ogilvie had legislative responsibility during alleged improper registration period

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Someone kindly directed me to the audio file from BBC Radio Scotland’s Sportsound programme last night.  Under recent scrutiny for his role, while general secretary and director of Rangers, in the alleged improper registrations of Rangers players with the SFA, he gave BBC reporter, Chick Young his thoughts on the matter.

While the BBC gave a robust defence of Mr Ogilvie stating that he was not in any way guilty of wrong-doing in relation to tax matters, which I am happy to accept, the entire debate never touched the question which has the potential to invalidate over a decade’s worth of football results.

Article 12.1 of the SFA’s Articles of Association states, “all payments, whether made by the club or otherwise, which are to be made to a player solely relating to his playing activities must be fully recorded”.  The redacted EBT agreement published last month by The Sun suggested Rangers would pay the player £1200 appearance money.

The SFA should have no interest in whether tax is due on this money, which is a matter for HM Revenue and Customs, they should only be concerned as to whether Rangers submitted details to the SFA of any payments made in connection to football, including appearance money.

My Young, perhaps trying to help, explained that Mr Ogilvie, as company secretary until 2002, had administrative responsibilities, but took on a legislative role on becoming general secretary that year. This suggests Mr Ogilvie had primary responsibility to ensure Rangers complied with the necessary legislative requirements, including registering payments to players.

Should have mentioned earlier, Mr Young suggested Rangers EBTs “could actually prove, bizarrely, to be one of the great coups of all time”.

He’s not wrong there.

We will address comments by Sir David Murray, widely reported this morning, later.

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  1. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    O G Rafferty

     

     

    Heard chico on that point. You’d hardly hand out all ur sweets and not keep one for ursel would you??

  2. Gavo on 14 March, 2012 at 13:44 said:

     

    For every £1 Whyte spends

     

    I will spend £20

     

     

    “Old Mother Hubberd”

     

    +++++

     

     

    Getting strange looks in the office, cheers.

  3. traditionalist88 on

    Zheng Zhi is still at home in his native Korea recuperating from his latest knock.

     

     

    HH

  4. CultsBhoy loves being 1st on

    wonkyradar

     

     

    me…after the title is truly secured (I know it is already..but..)

     

     

    I’d put the U19 team out..sicken the heart of every hun.

  5. wonkyradar

     

     

    I would introduce maybe one or two “fringe” or up and coming players into games between now and the end of the season. Agree with your suggestions of McGeough, Watt, George, Ibrahim and Brozek.

     

     

    I think Paddy’s time has gone unfortunately, if he hasn’t made it to 1st team regular by now he won’t, so better to give his place to some who might have a chance of making it.

     

     

    I don’t think we should make wholesale changes as winning the cups are still very important and we want our best, more effective players to remain fully fit.

     

     

    Mort

  6. Shelbourne1916 on 14 March, 2012 at 13:18 said:

     

    Cheers lads, been bugging me, was absent the day we started using it!

     

    **************

     

    Maybe we should have a Celtic quicknews acronym page :¬)

     

    V

  7. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    wonkyradar on 14 March, 2012 at 13:39 said:

     

     

    How about the whole support gets right behind players like Sammi, Skoosh and Big Fraser who have had pelters from our own and show some trust and respect for our manager who has brought us to the cusp of a treble against a backdrop that can only be described as macabre.

     

     

    He must be doing something right.

     

     

    Thank god he never listened to anyone on CQN

     

     

    Hail Hail

  8. CultsBhoy loves being 1st on

    Mort

     

     

    Agree re Paddy…and any other senior pro who has had 2 seasons to push their case…It is very very unlikely to happen in their 3rd season imo. How long has Paddy had?

  9. Sir Paul

     

     

    Pal.. Ah am surprised at ye..

     

     

    Why are ye talkin’ aboot.. Friday, the 16th March?

     

     

    Well.. if ye wullnae.. Ah wull!

     

     

    Whit is gonna Happen.. the Morra.. Wance Removed??

     

     

    Cat, still, goat yer tongue?

     

     

    Friday, the 16th o’ March… wull be, wan o’ they Rid Letter Days…

     

    that wull be printed in . Awe Future Scoattish Calendars.

     

     

    wan o the Maist IMPORTANT DAYS of the Century.

     

     

    Fur, The FATE of the G.A. depends oan

     

     

    Who is Gonna MAK and ATTEMPT, at Becoming… thur Next Owners?

     

     

    Wull it be the Blue Knight Consortium?

     

    Or. A Chinese …or.. an Arab..or..an U.S. .or a .Russian.. Rich. Entrepreneur?

     

     

    But, As ye know, and Ah know. and even . Nutsy.. Knows..

     

     

    Whitey, may hiv the deciding Vote..in the End!

     

     

    Yep.. Nae Three weys Aboot it..

     

     

    Friday 16th. of March. is Sure shaping up tae be

     

    a Real Barnstormer!

     

     

    Kojo

     

    Still Laughin’

  10. CultsBhoy

     

     

    Long enough I think. Don’t get me wrong, I still think he’s a great player but just not at the level we require.

     

     

    Kris Commons is another I think who should get more game time. He’s suffered a lot with injuries this season but there have been glimpses of him showing us the type of player he was last season.

     

     

    As Mark Hateley is known to say “he’ll be like a new signing next season”

     

     

    Mort

  11. BABASONICOS71 on

    “Rangers-daft comic Andy Cameron”

     

    Shouldn’t that read,”Rangers’ daft comic”?

     

    And aren’t they all? ;-)

  12. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    WGS

     

     

    do not forget David Taylor he always gets a good ride but he is as guilty as any of them

     

     

    Hail Hail

  13. The Moon Bhoys on

    Yeah that’s what’s needed, a whole bunch more Zen Zia jokes, that’ll fair gee everybody up, do you guys not get it? It was mind numbingly unfunny first time around and now it’s just plain stupefying, away and foul up some other blog with your stupid zee zee jokes and leave the rest of us in peace.

  14. cavansam \o/,13:12

     

    Don’t be distracted by that – the eye is very much on the prize.

     

    jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/, 13:46.

     

    Poor Chico, the clown

  15. philvisreturns on

    BABASONICOS71 – The last time I remember Andy Cameron making an audience laugh was in a 1987 production of “Mother Goose”. Gerard Kelly was better. (thumbsup)

     

     

    RaRaRasputin – No Wei. (thumbsup)

  16. The Lizard King on

    The Moon Bhoys on 14 March, 2012 at 13:55 said

     

     

    If you live on the Moon, is it always a full Moon?

     

     

    Just trying to understand, like.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    TLK

  17. philvisreturns on

    Zheng Zhi walks into a bar, and says to the barman:

     

     

    “我的狗有没有鼻子…”

     

     

    (thumbsup)

  18. tomtheleedstim on

    The moon bhoy – you sound like you might be a bit tired.

     

    You need to catch some…………………forget it!

  19. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on 14 March, 2012 at 13:47 said:

     

    Zhi cup tied? Stupid rule!!

     

    ***********

     

    Its ok rules were made to be broken….. follow the yellow brick road……

     

     

    V

  20. The Moon Bhoys on 14 March, 2012 at 13:55 said:

     

    You won’t be sayin that when he pops up with the winner on Sunday

  21. BABASONICOS71 on

    Was Andy Cameron not involved in the joke from the radio where a wee lad rang up after kids were requested to call in with their gags?

     

     

    Kid; What vegetable makes you greet?

     

    AC; An onion?

     

    Kid; Naw,you ever been hit in the ba*s wae a turnip!

     

     

    I’m sure it was Cameron but i could be wrong.

  22. 31003 at 13:59

     

     

    You won’t be sayin that when he pops up with the winner on Sunday

     

     

    How many times. He’s ineligible so if he does play we’ll lose 0-3.

     

     

    I blame Peter Lawwell (someone better, he hasn’t been slagged off here for weeks)

     

     

    Mort

  23. CultsBhoy loves being 1st on

    Mort

     

     

    Commons was arguably best player last season – not quite but not far off…

     

     

    He needs to seriously shed weight – or he is doomed imo

  24. Awe Naw:

     

     

    I support those players whole heartedly. After all they are the guys who are taking us to the cusp of a treble. But the league is finished. I wouldn’t like wholescale changes. That just upsets a teams rhythm and consistency ( like the chop changing earlier in the campaign). Lennon obviously has done a great job and would have wiped the floor with the huns no matter what happened across the river. But I would just like to see a few other squad players given an opportunity ( it is a squad game now or so we are always being told).

  25. Mort on 14 March, 2012 at 14:02 said:

     

    31003 at 13:59

     

     

    You won’t be sayin that when he pops up with the winner on Sunday

     

     

    How many times. He’s ineligible so if he does play we’ll lose 0-3.

     

     

    I blame Peter Lawwell (someone better, he hasn’t been slagged off here for weeks)

     

     

    Mort

     

    +++++

     

     

    ZeeZee, top player. Cup-tied?

     

     

    I blame the sharp dressed man.

  26. The Real Radio Andy Cameron wind up is very funny and worth a listen. A lawyer phones a wealthy hun saying he abused his client at a game.

  27. CultsBhoy

     

     

    Think he looks a lot trimmer than he did at the start of the season. Still more work to do.

     

     

    Mort

  28. Lizard King:

     

     

    You can’t see the whole of the moon ( nod to the Waterboys)

     

    when you are standing on the moon.

     

     

    A wise man points towards the moon and the fool gazes at his finger.

  29. CultsBhoy loves being 1st on 14 March, 2012 at 14:03 said:

     

     

    Commons was arguably best player last season – not quite but not far off…

     

     

    He needs to seriously shed weight – or he is doomed imo

     

    +++++

     

     

    As opposed to comically shedding weight?

  30. philvisreturns on

    wonkyradar – If you believe there’s nothing up there, Zheng Zhi

     

     

    Nothing that’s cool. (thumsup)

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