Although Rangers won their case at the Court of Session today, they have the option not to serve the ruling on the SFA that its Judicial Panel’s 12 month ban on player registration is illegal. Winning the point in law might sound like a victory, but taking the Association to court breaks membership rules of the SFA, rules imposed on all associations by Fifa.
We will find out soon enough the reach of SFA president, Campbell Ogilvie, who was one of the recipients of an EBT which precipitated Rangers crisis.
Rangers are deep in Sion territory now. Either they walk away from this showdown, the SFA expel or suspend them from football, or Fifa will shortly remind the SFA of their duties when a member club takes action in the civil courts.
Campbell Ogilvie was born for this moment; it justifies him holding onto his position all these months despite being “heavily conflicted”, according to his chief executive. I do not expect this to end well.
Despite an independent judicial panel ruling against Rangers, there is no way the office holders at the SFA will expel Rangers, no matter what they do. They would rather jeopardise the Scotland national team and every other club’s European participation.
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The owe creditors ( very many that are small companies that need the money as a life line) £55,415,632.
They are proposing to pay back: £4,967,284.
£0.09 for every £1.00. Take it or leave it. More threats to people THEY OWE MONEY to. These “people” are disgusting. Its an absolute scandal. Are Rangers officially the most corrupt/disgusting sporting “institution” the world has ever seen? They must be up there with the worst of the worst. Makes you proud to be Scottish when political midgets are calling them the “fabric of Scottish of society”. Its a s**t stained fabric.
Will Duff & Duffer accept 8 or 9p in the pound toward their fee? If not they will take more from the “Green Pot” than all the other creditors put together…this is absolutely INSANE!
oldtim67 on 29 May, 2012 at 18:37 said:
A question not football related,Is there a sell by date on wine,I read somewhere yesterday that there was,but can’t remember where I read it,and can’t find it anywhere,I have 40 odd bottles of the wine and wouldn’t like to think It has shot past it’s sell by date, if there is one,can you calm my fears.
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No sell by date on wine but some is better given time and some better drunk young. What kind of stuff have you got?
Gordybhoy – then they are liquidated and new club will be allowed into the SPLalbeit with a 3 year euro ban and will probably be able to argue that they cannot be held responsible for the sins of the old club.
The Scottish establishment will not take the ultimate sanction against Rangers.
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gordybhoy64 on 29 May, 2012 at 18:27 said:
Alersyde avenue,
if they are suspended from the scottish cup then the CVA
is up in the air,where would they go from there
aldersyde avenue on 29 May, 2012 at 18:25 said:
“Prediction time. The SFA tribunal will impose a lesser penalty of suspension fn the Scottish Cup for 1-year.”
….and the CVA proposal fails on this alone
All, I posted in an earlier article about the belief of senior business analysts that a European Super league will be a reality before long. UEFA will be impotent to prevent this as the powers in European club football and TV will demand that either UEFA cede to their demands or a new European football federation will be created by the rich and powerful clubs backed by the likes of Sky. FIFA threats to ban players who join the ‘rebel league’ from competing in the world cup or other International football tournaments will mean nothing as the majority of players will not be worried by this their being compensated by the huge salaries being financed through worldwide TV coverage of the super league. Will Celtic be a part of the super league system ? Absolutely we will be, we are a football superpower in terms of support and potential merchandising revenue.
Mo chairde, Tiocfaidh ár lá , a n-othar
(our day will come my friends be patient)
Oldtim
nice to see you post. Tried to get you yesterday. Spoke with Stephen today as to your well being. Hope you are fit for racing but understand you may not make it.
wonkyradar,
I could be wrong but I believe from a brief raid of the CVA proposal that the admin’s fees will need deducted first. I’m sure that reduces the offer by 4 million?
So say 5p in the pound?
B
Evening all.
Just watched Reporting Shortbread’s reports . Evidently this has been splendid news for D & P . More than the creditors will get. Good grief.
And what was that dope outiside the court withering on about. Telling us there were 3 options for the SFA all of them mire stringent than the one before. But only telling us what two of then are.
The man should be in Spanish Inquisition
h x 2
lochgoilhead bhoy,
No chnance they will diminish their own Cup competition… so I’m not sure where they go from here tbh.
B
The CVA will fail regardless of what else happens. All they are doing is trying to pick the tome for liquidation and a newco.
The CVA will fail regardless of what else happens. All they are doing is trying to pick the time for liquidation and a newco.
Lord Justice Glennie has basically said to the SFA, you crowd had a chance to severely punish the huns but you took the easy option, I am now giving you a second chance to stick it to them big style.
The SFA either impose greater sanctions on the hun if they accept the ruling or incur the wrath of FIFA/UEFA if they accept it and do nothing.
CVA is 9 pence in the £, take it or leave it, whilst Bluff and Bluffer’s bill is over £5.5M. AYE Hector’s going accept that. Liquidation and sale of assets more likely.
Sandman Is Neil Lennon on 29 May, 2012 at 18:24 said:
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Yes…double yes..I fear I may develop Tourette’s if something isnae done about the scum. It feels like there is NO ONE in our corner except us ‘internet bampots’. Even Tims on telly keep evincing sympathy for the scum’s plight. When..EXACTLY…is SOMEONE going to STAND UP TO THE SCUM AND DEMOLISH EACH ONE OF THEIR SPECIOUS ARGUMENTS.
PureRagin’ csc
oldtim67
When’s the party going to be?
Monaghan1900.
I’m not a connoisseur of the red stuff but I like to have a wee swally, the prices vary from £4.50 to £9, maybe a couple over that price.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon on 29 May, 2012 at 18:43 said:
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Somehow you got it subconsciously correct….it will take a tome to explain how they’ve gotten away with it for so long,and continue to do so via shysterism. HH!
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Any suspensions/ fines will be suspended to help rehabilitate the hun.
When Newco is set up, and inevitably take oldco’s SPL share, history, stadium, colours, dignity etc., can HMRC pursue Newco for oldco’s outstanding tax liability?
I confidently predict that ratners fc will be suspended for the 12th of July. Maks nae difference to thems, as they will be busy elsewhere on the highways of Central Scotland.
Let cheating dogs die
Lyruc
Fifa very interested in the fact that rangers owe other clubs just under £3.5 million with no way to pay, but consider a 1 year transfer embargo unfair.
Stupid huns have slit their own throat.
Look at all the “TBCs” from page 15 of the CVA Proposal.
Creditor Claim (£)
HM Revenue & Customs – the EBT Case TBC
Supporter Debenture Holders – see paragraph 5.28 TBC
Employees TBC
Total TBC
While there is 1 TBC no-one can give a “penny in the pound” figure. What are creditors voting for? This is a joke.
oldtim67 on 29 May, 2012 at 18:46 said:
Monaghan1900.
I’m not a connoisseur of the red stuff but I like to have a wee swally, the prices vary from £4.50 to £9, maybe a couple over that price.
Oldtim67 it’s all goosed, send it over here and I will dispose of it for you :-)
oldtim67 on 29 May, 2012 at 18:46 said:
That’s decent stuff going by price. Some Rioja in there? Red wine, generally speaking, if decent will improve with age providing it’s kept somewhere cool and dark. The trick is to know when to drink it as it reaches a peak and goes downhill thereafter. It should, however, always be drinkable if it’s been stored correctly. Best to start drinking the cheaper ones first as they are less likely too have been made with longevity in mind.
Oldtim – Sorry I missed you and BT on the last game of the season! Hopefully we will get a catch up soon….. I could help you with the wine! Hope your well
borderlandbhoy
Well said….Ye didna miss…!
OldTim
I know you didn’t ask me, but most red wine keeps in the bottle for years. Most only gets better. There are a few exceptions. It’s best to keep them in a place where the temperature doesn’t vary too much, ideally quite cool, and out of direct sunlight. If possible, it’s best also to keep the bottles flat.
I hope it tastes good when you open it.
So the SFA have not even informed UEFA that the huns took them to court
HH
Magnificentseven on 29 May, 2012 at 18:51 said:
Oldtim67 it’s all goosed, send it over here and I will dispose of it for you :-)
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Damn, I should have thought of that.
ASonOfDan on 29 May, 2012 at 18:50 said:
Fifa very interested in the fact that rangers owe other clubs just under £3.5 million with no way to pay, but consider a 1 year transfer embargo unfair
Could FIFA impose a worldwide transfer embargo on them for unpaid transfer fees to various clubs around Europe? Or insist that the SFA do so?
Who decided on Sion’s transfer embargo, FIFA or SFL?
paul
just managing to catch up on cqn as i travel home. this is shocking. All I can say is I hope you are wrong here (even though I know you are right).
what can our club do though? can we buy a club in another country and move? I don’t know but I would rather watch celtic play somewhere else e.g. Against say galway or crew alexandra or hell I’d rather see my team play at king george v park in wishaw than take part in this wwe wrestling type charade of a sport our game will become if this mob of incompetent corrupt (allegedly) eejits get their way.
It’s beginning to look like all genuine fans whatever their team may be and our team in particular will be the ones to suffer. so so wrong.
Twists n Turns.
I spoke to Stephen and he told me you were enquiring after me,The battery on my phone is Knackered,and can’t get out to renew it.My feet have swollen up and struggling to walk anywhere,If the swelling subsides then I will try and get to Hamilton,but at the moment I’d say I have a 10% chance of making it,it’s happened before and the swelling goes as quick as it comes,but this time it seems to be lasting longer.We’ll see on the day.
Everyone is missing the point here. It is not going back to a tribunal. Fifa have stated rangers are to accept original decision or SFA is to relegate/suspend them.
That is fact!!
Monaghan1900 on 29 May, 2012 at 18:54 said:
Magnificentseven on 29 May, 2012 at 18:51 said:
Oldtim67 it’s all goosed, send it over here and I will dispose of it for you :-)
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Damn, I should have thought of that
far too sensible for your own good :-)
BBC news:”Fifa will monitor and expect a speedy outcome”
Magnificentseven on 29 May, 2012 at 18:56 said:
far too sensible for your own good :-)
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Nail on head there, no argument.
Kayal33
Fifa got fed up with Sion and the court nonsense and stated that Swiss FA was to hammer them or be banned from world football.
Sion and Uefa went to CAS and Sion lost.
This has been a set up. Ria and sfa in cahoots. Ria take sfa to court over transfer ban then sfa back down and give them a poxy scottish cup ban. Were are you peter lawwell? Why are you endangering our cherished champions league place? Speak up for christ sake.
ASonOfDan on 29 May, 2012 at 18:55 said:
Everyone is missing the point here. It is not going back to a tribunal. Fifa have stated rangers are to accept original decision or SFA is to relegate/suspend them.
That is fact!!
you are correct…they have not won, they either accept the original punishment or they get worse and the SFA will have no say, it will be imposed from above……I can’t believe some people think FIFA or UEFA will allow them to do anything else