Over 70 CQN’ers gathered in Aberdour, Fife, on Friday for our eighth annual charity golf day. As before, the day was hugely successful. Both those there on the day, and hundreds more who contributed beforehand, raised over £6,000 since we kicked off the summer’s fundraising activity in May.
This year LIvingston manager and former Celtic player, John Hughes, gave his time to entertain us with a mixture of great anecdotes and outrageous anecdotes. The big man spoke warmly of his time at Celtic, the joy of signing and working for Tommy Burns, that goal at Ibrox, and how he still benefits from his time learning from Tommy.
Many sincere thanks to Taggsy, BlantyreKev, Jonnybhoy, Barassiebhoy for organising an excellent event yet again. A special mention for Oldtim, for more than I am prepared to tell you, and to everyone who contributed to an excellent Celtic occasion.
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PL says NL will DEFINITELY get money to buy a Centre Half and a Striker- IF we qualify for CL groups, IF the exchange rate is favourable, IF Saturn is in Capriciorn, IF t
Philbhoy
Nail on the head mi amigo.
The downsizing spiral once it is in motion is so hard to stop.
PL says NL will DEFINITELY get money to buy a Centre Half and a Striker- IF we qualify for CL groups, IF the exchange rate is favourable, IF Saturn is in Capriciorn, IF the SFA say they’re very sorry, IF we can get a 2 for 1 deal, IF we get 5m for Darryl Murphy and IF we win the Euromillions
ElDiegoBhoy on 5 August, 2012 at 17:36 said:
Maybe -but when Chris Sutton signed for us in 2000 there was no CL football – he had Helsinki and Bordeaux in the Eufa Cup to look forward to …was he mad? ..he did have something to prove. Not suggesting we pay 6m but there must be a striker somewhere willing to give it a go…I am told Lenny can be win over doubters over a glass or two of of porter ;-)
HH
I want the squad strengthened as much as anyone but would signing a player or two guarantee CL?
No and then you are left with a player who may or may not come good over a season.
We’ve seen that a lot – Juarez, Rasmussen and even Bangura did very little but all three were heralded to a degree when they were signed and all they really did was take money for nothing or next to nothing.
Kelvin Wilson has not had the desired form or ability and cutting our losses and even getting a few quid for a guy we got on a bosman looks like smart business. We have been very unfortunate with Fojut getting injured or he would have been in the side without a doubt but again we are faced with the old chesnut that we have a defense acquired for under 2M pounds and some of those players have let us down routinely in European football.
Mathews – small development fee
Rogne 200K
Charlie – Free
Izzy 600
Lustig – Free
K.Wilson – Free
Now if it works, it is great – Charlie has been real value as Neil’s first signing because he grasped his chance. Mathews looks great and Izzy can be great again.
Rogne is a proper centre half in the old sense but not too quick and the jury remains out on Lustig and Wilson.
Money does not guarantee success in Europe. IMagine we’d signed a 3M quid player and then he got injured or he was as poor as Bangura has looked – we are stuck with him and in some ways we are still paying for the Mowbray January transfer window when a fortune was relatively spent on a lot of duds and duds who we couldn’t and can’t shift to this day or until only very recently.
Rasmussen, Kamara, Hooiveld, Rogne, Keane, Braafheid, Ki were all purchased or loaned into us while we sold McDonald (our best goalscorer at the time) and we had to pay all these players in wages at least. Only Rogne and Ki have remained and one of them will now be sold to QPR if reports are accurate regardless of CL football or not.
Neil himself has signed some guys who have not worked out – Juarez, Murphy and Bangura spring to mind instantly as guys who have done next to nothing while picking up wages for at least one year between them. However Neil has had better judgement and has had more successes than failures.
The damage of the Mowbray experiment (despite the fact we were being cheated over and over again by refereeing honest mistakes and an EBT debt ridden doped up team) was a disaster because good players from the Strachan era who knew how to win titles and cups were replaced by half-hearted players, poor players and nefarious players who cost the club a lot of money with no return.
Mowbray got rid of JVOH and Paul Hartley and replaced them with Fortune and NGuemo – madness.
He dumped Barry Robson and Scott McDonald – two guys who knew how to beat Rangers and got in Robbie Keane who played well but the whole team had to change to accommodate him and we still lost stupid goal after stupid goal because of clowns like Braafheid at Aberdeen in particular and that’s before we get to that night in Paisley.
I can understand the board being careful with cash but if Celtic fail on Wednesday, there are going to be a lot of questions and the answer must not be we cannot compete with the EPL. We are playing a Finnish side who have less resources than us supposedly.
We wait and see.
Hopefully we get through and we manage to secure some form of European football until Christmas. CL might be beyond us, but Europa league must not be.
This knife-edge has be swaying all over the place.
Hail Hail
Dexter
I Saturn in Capricorn then? :-)
TET
Was up in Stonehaven last week.
My liver is still sore!!
Hope you are well!
……………..snug tin hat donned, the ‘currant’ economics rule the Champions out of the CL running………….I treat these CL qualifying games as glamour friendlies for the best team on earth……………
Currently, in our position, operating in the league we do………….Europa is our game……………
NothingIsForeverTho’ CSC
HH
Is the mixed doubles best of 3?
What’s to discuss….?
Standing by Neil Francis Lennon…No matter what outcome. The man, in my eyes, should be in his rightful place for the next 20 years.
What do we do if we don’t qualify…?
Look for a replacement management team…? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha !
GBNFL
Better preseason planning would have improved our chance of champions league qualifying.
Our strategy seems purely based on fitness.
If one set all they play a type of tie break, first to 10, at least two points clear, wins it.
Clear?
Philbhoy
Aye, hard place not to have a good drink :>)
Doing good, a bit on the hot side, roll on winter…..
Sean Fallon — The Iron Man
Glasgow Celtic Champions……………………………..
TET
It’s not all doom and gloom amigo. Took my 18 year old younger daughter along to yesterday’s game and she had a great day. She’d never been interested before but now is keen to get along to CP on a regular basis. Helps that we have a lounge environment so can have a drink and food and meet up with guys I’ve been meeting for many years now..
On a negative point her seat cost me £35 and that was at a concession price. On Wednesday for the Helsinki game I arrived straight from work and it cost £9.95 for fish and chips in our lounge. They are desperate for money and taking the p..s. wherever possible.
I also reckon Thommo hasn’t been replaced on monetary grounds.
Barca
Totally agree with your summation of where we are and where we will be if we fail to qualify on Wednesday
We pay our players significantly more than the Finns can
We pay our management team far more than the Finns can
I do not want to hear hard luck stories or that we are only staring our season
If that was the crucial factor we should have started training two weeks before we did – that is a management decision
On Wednesday NL need to pick his strongest team possible that means his best players in their natural positions
VW MUST play in midfield
Team – if all fit
FF
AM TR CM EI
VW BK
SB KC JL
GS
HH
90 years old and A Celtic servant and Celtic Legend.
“I’m proud that we achieved something no other team has but it was just all about living the dream with my club.” – Sean Fallon
Happy Birthday Sean.
fan-a-tic
The day we won the league, we knew what was in front of us re the CL qualifiers.
This season especially, knowing that the huns were in serious doo, doo, we should have had the players back a month early, there will be plenty of oportunities to rest them mid season.
I think Ramis turned down the mighty West Ham to sign for the even mightier Wigan Athletic, sounds like the type of guy we should’ve pushed the boat out for :O)
Did J D per chance score today?? 0)))
Surely we have to accept that Neil Lennon a young manger must improve year on year as he gains more experience? Now if we dont show any improvement in Europe we would over a few seasons have to look at Neils managerial performance. I love the guy but it doesnt blind me to the fact he must take us forward in Europe he has the managerial job at Scotlands largest club and a club who I like to think of in tems of size as being in the top 10 of European clubs.There are expectations which must be matched.H.H.
Barca, excellent post. It is easy for bloggers to shout about spending money. It is a different thing to have to get it right in an unforgiving environment.
I sit on the most cautious side of the Celtic supporting spectrum myself. Sometimes all by myself….:) Or so it seems…..
That being said, if EVER there was the time to take a punt, I’d say it is now. Two reasons…..
First, no sevco for 3 years or so. Three years of CL money puts us 45 million pounds ahead by the time to resurface. Wasting these 3 years would be just like sitting in a lay by waiting for them to catch up.
Second, more so than any time in our recent history, we have ASSETS. Ki, Kayal, Victor, Hooper, Mathews, Ledley. All guys who could easily be sold for decent money down south.
If a punt this year didn’t work, it would’t be fatal. 10 million pounds on the CB and striker. Fail to get CL entry. Sell 2 players, maybe at Christmas.
It sounds easy, I know. But if ever there was a time to do it, it is now.
I think…..
EDB
I know it’s not all doom and gloom.
I just like to moan, even my grandweans call me Grumpy, term of endearment so it is.
I realise that things are changing, 40 odd thousand SB holders will soon be a thing of the past, unless we are fortunate enough to get into the CL group stages, when if we are lucky, PL will deem to splash out a few bob in the hope we can stay there.
I probably get about 3-4 e-mails a week from the club promoting this and that, aye, they are desperate for money.
Football is fast becoming a luxury item, maybes they should take a leaf out of the German book, they are experiancing vastly improved attendances.
Delighted your daughter wants to go back.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19137624
Oh the irony
Barcabhoy
Nevermind stating the obvious to the spoilt brats….I’ve still got my TYVEC coveralls on….How much LONGER !!!?
sftb,
Looked comfortable until the last tenminutes.
Sweaty palm time for a bit, but rallied to score the insurance point.
Ref a bit arbitrary with some of his decisions.Most favoured Kerry.
Look forward to seeing you on Wednesday.
Early kick off.
Mr 90 and his staff and Ard Macha should be in attendance.
Drive carefully.
Barcabhoy on 5 August, 2012 at 17:03 said:
Great post Mate, good to have a view that is different from Neil Lennon (good) Peter Lawwell(bad), it’s not personal it’s where the club is at and trying to make the changes that sure a bright future for Celtic and for our future Celts.
Wednesday is the biggest game for a long time for the club and a positive result should be a huge step in the right direction.
Rangers fans groups have objected to the appointment of Harper MacLeod to investigate claims against the club’s previous owners.
The Glasgow firm will probe, on behalf of the Scottish Premier League, alleged dual contracts for players from 2000.
But a joint statement from three fans groups has questioned the process that could lead to the stripping of titles.
“We believe this is being driven by influential members of the SPL board”
“Harper MacLeod have acted for Celtic FC, who would be the main beneficiaries of any finding of guilt,” they state.
“Indeed, until it was recently removed, they included a testimonial from Celtic CEO Peter Lawwell on their website.
“The SPL could have chosen any law firm to carry out this investigation and it was extremely naive of them to appoint a firm with such a close connection to a rival club.”
The Rangers Supporters Assembly, the Rangers Supporters Trust and the Rangers Supporters Association suggest that, in discussing the stripping of titles, “it appears the SPL has assumed guilt when nothing has yet been proved”.
They urge the football authorities to ensure that the investigatiion is carried out “with the necessary independence, transparency and integrity”.
Rangers remain the subject of a tax investigation by Revenue and Customs into the use of employee benefit trusts to pay members of staff.
SPL investigation
•The SPL is investigating how Rangers paid players between 2000 and 2011
•SPL said in June Rangers had “a prima facie case to answer in respect of [league] rules”
•Independent commission will rule on matter
•There are 18 available sanctions should the club be found in breach of SPL rules
While the courts have yet to rule on their legality, the SPL is investigating whether such earnings contravened its requirement that all earnings should be declared to the national parent body.
The SPL has stated that, once Harper MacLeod submits its evidence, an independent commission, likely to be made up of foreign nationals, will be appointed with the power to determine what sanctions, if any, are appropriate.
However, Rangers’ fans groups state: “We are concerned that, despite the SPL having 18 sanctions available, the only punishment being discussed is the most serious, yet no guilt has even been established.
“This, again, leads to a danger of exerting undue influence on the tribunal members through the media.
“We believe this is being driven by influential members of the SPL board and recently formed ‘steering committee’ with the most to gain.”
A BBC documentary, “Rangers, The Men Who Sold The Jerseys”, found evidence suggesting that 38 Rangers players had received side-letters giving undertakings to fund their sub-trusts with cash.
The fans groups suggest that such media coverage, and similar newspaper articles, will make it difficult for any investigators to remain impartial.
Celtic have previously confirmed that they established one EBT scheme in April 2005, which BBC Scotland understands was for the benefit of Brazilian midfielder Juninho Paulista.
“We would question why there appears to be no on-going investigation into the so-called ‘Juninho EBT’ used by Celtic FC,” add the Rangers fans groups.
“Our understanding is that Celtic acknowledged that this was not declared to the football authorities as part of their licence application.”
The SPL and Harper MacLeod have yet to comment on the supporters’ statement.
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Do we Celtic fans expect to win the Premier league this season ? I am not asking will it be close ? or will it be hard fought? I am asking do Celtic fans expect us to win the league this season? I am sure the majority would say yes.So where we really need to judge the Club,The manager,the players is in Europe if we fail to have a run in Europe this season we must question has there been any improvement over last season if the answer is no none we need to sit down and have a hard look at why we are not moving forward in Europe and make the required chanes. H.H.
Unbelievable that BBC Scotland even give those loons the time of day never mind a full page splash to effectively blame all their problems on Peter Lawwell!
What next? The Kennedy Assassination? Fake moon landings? The season not being extended (ahem) in 2008?
GB calculate investment / product ratios for Celtic 12/13
Celtic, don’t need anither Center Hauf..
Ah canny understaun, why Folk , keep tellin’ us. that we DAE!
Our present complement of C.Bs.. .. are mair than Sufficient tae meet oor needs..
Mulgrew, Thomas, Wilson, and.. Lustig..Are Fine.
We don’t lose many goals.
The Trouble we are Hivin..resides .. STRICTLY .. in oor Striking Dept.
We have trouble . Scoring.. especially, against a Team. who play Tough Defense.l
And ,once mair… in MA opinion.. Our Central Defense . is NOT our Weak Spot.
Where we are extremely Vulnerable..
is at oor LEFT BACK ,position.
Izzy, is Not a very good Defender. In fact ,HIS Distrubution is no great Shakes, eethur..
I am Not Happy with Izzy’s form, at all.
On Wednesday,I fully expect.. all the danger to our hopes of making the next round.. will come from oor opponent’s attacks Down the Right side.
i wish we could find anither.. Right Back. like .. Master Mathews..
He was simply superb,I thought,agin the Dons..
And he is getting Bettah and Bettah. with each outing.
He… again. in Ma Opinion,of course.. Is turning oot tae be a wonderful Prospect.
Ah rate him. way up there. beside. Wanyama.. but, for some reason..
His sparkling form has . gone. almost…. Ah said. ALMOST.. Unnoticed, by the Celtic Fan Base.
James Forrest.. once again.. I Ma Opinion..
Is our best Player , when it comes to breaking down a Doughty Defensive Set-Up
He is the Sharpest of all of our Attackers.. I like him a loater!
He Lights up oor Attack like nae ither.
Ah hope he plays agin the Finns.
and..
Speaking of the Finns..
We must NOT play.. Stokes..
We must Play with ONE MAN ..up front.. Hoops, must be that man.. by .. default..as we dinna hiv ANYBUDDY ELSE.
Sammi, must play..of course. but . strictly as a Left Winger..
It will be a very challenging game..
if Neil.. plays.. a Defensive Game. hoping for a break AWAY GOAL..
We will be fine..
but.. if Neil , goes fur broke.. with .. Stokes AND Hoops ,up front..
Ah sure dinna fancy oor chances.
Kojo
Still. Laughin’.. of Course.
j
in the heat of lisbon, would be interested to know what site youre talking about.
voguepunter, as kingoh stated, we’re looking to goi with sportguru /superbru but they only offer epl. we might run with that and manually do the celtic game as a “brucy bonus”.
oldtim, trying ti get in touch. I have something of yoursfrom friday.
jamie mcwilliam , wdlcome
“The SPL has stated that, once Harper MacLeod submits its evidence, an independent commission, likely to be made up of foreign nationals, will be appointed with the power to determine what sanctions, if any, are appropriate.”
Have the fans of the former club scared off all potential Scottish panel members? Still, those from abroad may be more likely to impose the penalties that are warranted by so many years of cheating.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon on 5 August, 2012 at 18:18 said:
Foreign nationals???
I must have missed it….Wheres the heads up for Seany Fallon….?
Awe_Naw is the only person Ive noted who has made any comment.
[…..And do you know how long I spent crafting Succulent Porridge !!!?] :-(
Recognise — Sean Fallon Celtic Legend
Looking good 2 golds for Andy,could anyone put me rite on john chalmers,read a bit on net n fed up wae huns trying to take the moral high ground.app.h.h.