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One year on from a pivotal moment in Celtic history

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Exactly one year ago today, just after lunchtime, one of the pivotal moments in Celtic history occurred.  Neil Lennon took his Celtic team to Kilmarnock, who had lost their three previous league games, and for 73 minutes looked like surrendering their league title chances just as Tony Mowbray’s team collapsed at St Mirren Park seven months earlier.

The manager later admitted to thoughts of resignation.  3-0 down at half time while already in heavy deficit to Rangers, who were riding a wave of positivity under the reinvigorating ownership of Craig Whyte, events looked to have escaped Neil’s grasp.

It is tempting to write the narrative that a half time talk or tactical change turned things around but turnaround was more difficult to explain.  Celtic were awful for the opening 28 minutes of the second half; like condemned men waiting for the inevitable.

Anthony Stokes started the recovery by exploiting Kilmarnock’s weaknesses.  A free kick drifted over a wall which didn’t jump and into the net.  Had the wall jumped, would history have been different?  Three minutes later Stokes fired into the corner of the net from distance, Jaakkola in the Killie goal was not equal to the challenge.  Suddenly, we were back in the game, back in the title race.

Charlie Mulgrew, who erred to gift Kilmarnock their third, equalised with 11 minutes remaining, surely there was only one winner now?  Not so, images of Heffernan’s last minute header from inside the Celtic six yard box gliding over remain vivid.

We escaped with a draw but it felt like a stay of execution, not a pivotal moment.  Neil didn’t resign, he stayed, beat Stade Rennes in the Europa League and never looked back.  The imperious positivity which surrounded Craig Whyte was ultimately proven to be a charade, those of us who told you Rangers were in peril were proven correct.

It is impossible to calculate just how much football has changed since Anthony hit that free kick, although imperious positivity still surrounds a charade which is doomed to fail, leaving a lot of football fans out of pocket.  If only the football authorities had a warning from recent history that light-touch regulation is dangerous, or had the mechanism to order a financial audit. They do, of course, but despite the traumas of 2012 I doubt they have the appetite to head-off potential problems. It’s easier (in the short term) to hope everything will turn out well.

Not that you need worry about any of this, you can chill and enjoy the season.

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  1. Number 10 insisted that allowing Scottish 16-year-olds to vote in the independence referendum would not lead to 16-year-olds being allowed to vote in general elections. “The government has no plans to change the voting age,” the spokeswoman said. “This particular aspect is specific to the referendum question.” But she did not have a particularly good answer to the question about why 16-year-olds should be allowed to vote in what the government says is “the most important decision [for Scotland] for 300 years” but not in more routine elections.

     

     

    (!!!)

     

     

    Is it just me, or is allowing 16-17 yr olds a vote in probably the most important decision in 70 years a complete abnegation of democracy?

     

     

    Leaving aside the fact that most 16-17 yr olds’ stake in society hasn’t even been hewn from its tree yet, they will be far more likely tovote for Salmond – he, after all, will be seen as the one who gave them the vote.

     

     

    How in the name of Holy Funk has this happened?

  2. Steinreignedsupreme on

    Richie 14:33 on 15 October, 2012

     

    RogueLeader 14:36 on 15 October, 2012

     

     

    Sadly, the TV appearances have resulted in the resident Dalek expert taking himself seriously.

     

     

    That illusion is shattered when he goes public with his thoughts.

  3. up_over_goal – In this country you can marry and fight for your country when you are 16. With that in mind I don’t see why they shouldn’t be allowed to vote. They are considered “adult” in those other ways.

     

     

    The fact he is just wanting it for this one issue is utterly transparent and will be used against him during the campaign.

     

     

    I think they will underestimate the 16-17 year olds. Not as many of them as they think will be swayed by the Braveheart re-runs and FREEDOM rhetoric. They are more than capable of absorbing facts and making up their own minds minus shameless propaganda.

  4. hi

     

     

    anyone know if theres a supporters bus going to barca game from the Salou area?

     

     

    BB

  5. tigertim-Cheers,I seen The Stones for free at Hampden 2006,unbelievable stuff.£106 ? kickin the backside out of it,they always sell their tours as a last chance to see ………..

  6. the very fact that football is being allowed to be played out of ibrox is all the proof you need that they have indeed got away with it,for what that mob did for decades maybe longer

     

    that ground should have been sold off to pay somthing back to

     

    creditors.

  7. Bada

     

     

    You have a point re ‘last chance’ theme but I don’t think even Mick the lips thought that he would last this long ;-)

  8. HT-I think touring is actually keeping them going,to be so active at their age,with the amount of previous excesses is remarkable.

  9. tomtheleedstim on

    BIGbones8867 – no idea of the buses but have caught the train before. Cheap and punctual as I remember.

  10. Just listened to 5-Live there. Richard Bacon, whose show I like, just had a discussion with an expert on contitutional whatnot, who sounded English.

     

     

    His constant use of ‘they’ and seeming to forget that he works for a UK ‘national’ broadcaster and therefore is being beamed out to ‘them’ are part of why I am a seperatist, and always have been.

     

     

    Shallow? mibbees aye.

  11. BIGbones8867 – no idea of the buses but have caught the train before. Cheap and punctual as I remember.

     

     

    TTLT

     

     

    cheers, its getting back after the game,

     

     

    heard the last train is about 10pm.

     

     

    BB

  12. Steinreignedsupreme on

    Read the ET guff from Lindsay there – this is panning out gloriously.

     

     

    Years of further side-splitting laughter lie ahead for us.

  13. RogueLeader

     

     

    In this country you can marry and fight for your country when you are 16. With that in mind I don’t see why they shouldn’t be allowed to vote. They are considered “adult” in those other ways.

     

     

    Yes (although I personally think you shouldn’t be allowed to do any of the above when you are 16). I have an open mind on the subject of lowering the voting age, but lowering it for this particular vote is wrong, as it will skew the vote in favour of Independence – Salmond will be seen as the man who gave it to them, and hence they will be far more likely to view his arguments favourably.

     

     

    I think they will underestimate the 16-17 year olds. Not as many of them as they think will be swayed by the Braveheart re-runs and FREEDOM rhetoric. They are more than capable of absorbing facts and making up their own minds minus shameless propaganda.

     

     

    I disagree. Most 40-50 yr olds are unable to see through rhetoric, but at least they have an interest in a stable economy. When you’re that young, everything is a bit of a laugh, and you have little conception of how such a change would affect your life or the lives of those around you.

     

     

    For a decision such as this, people need more than the current ‘Just dae it’ soundbites and one-upmanship that qualify as Scottish political discourse (not helped by the worst opposition since the parliament began). Are we ever likely to see or hear two politicians genuinely debate the economic detail? Lowering the voting age is a step in the wrong direction.

  14. South Of Tunis on

    up over goal .

     

     

    At 16 ———

     

     

    You can work .

     

    You can pay tax .

     

    You can get married .

     

    You can join the armed forces and do your thing for wee Brenda .

     

    etc etc

     

    Why shouldn’t you be allowed to vote .?.

     

     

    I’m 62 -I have never voted —— I’m of the none of them / it only encourages them / it’s like sheep choosing their butcher -persuasion..

     

     

    If I had to —— I’d vote No !

  15. Steinreignedsupreme on

    danso_1888 14:59 on 15 October, 2012

     

     

    It’s not finished yet … by a long way.

  16. Bada

     

     

    You may well be right, the buzz keeps them kicking!

     

     

    Not their biggest fan but as they were the first band I ever saw live I’ve retained a fondness for them.

     

     

    However, no so fond that I’ll fork out £106 ;-)

  17. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Questions related to Scotlands Zombie club

     

     

    Section 1. SFA governance, administration and accountability

     

     

    Are there any other SFA employees or officials past or

     

    present apart from Campbell Ogilive who received EBT´s.

     

    If so who and why did they receive them ?

     

     

    Did any referee or member of the refereeing committee

     

    in Scotland get EBT payments from Rangers FC either

     

    directly or indirectly ?

     

     

    Who in the SFA whom were not recipients of EBT’s knew

     

    about them ?

     

     

    What Rangers employees have been recipients of Rangers

     

    funds not disclosed to the SFA ?

     

     

    How did Rangers FC manage to get an approved license

     

    from the SFA while trading insolvently and especially

     

    as the “wee tax case” was still outstanding ?

     

     

    When will Grant Thornton(accountant) be asked to explain

     

    his company signing off Ranger FC Accounts ?

     

     

    Are any members of the SFA committees or refereeing

     

    committee ”MEMBERS OF A SECRET SOCIETY ?

     

    If yes is it the same secret society ?

     

     

    Will the SFA publish all the correspondence between

     

    the SFA and Rangers concerning Rangers’s use of EBT’s ?

     

     

    Will the SFA confirm they have carried out the

     

    necessary checks on all members of the consortium that

     

    hold the licence of The Rangers and it was to their

     

    satisfaction ?

     

     

    When Rangers FC were clearly in financial difficulties,

     

    what steps were taken to get the EBT loans repaid ?

     

     

    Was any advice offered by anyone who knew both sides

     

    of the story exactly, somebody like Campbell Ogilvie ?

     

    If not then why not ?

     

     

    Were any steps taken at all to call back loans ?

     

    If not then why not ?

     

     

    Who at the SFA were complicit either by either

     

    actively helping or turning a blind eye to the EBT

     

    scam ?

     

     

    How exactly did the SFA managed to give Sevco a

     

    License without passing the proposal through their

     

    respective boards ?

     

     

    What outside political pressure (i.e non footballing

     

    entities) has been employed during the entire Rangers

     

    liquidation affair and how did this influence subsequent

     

    behaviour and decisions ?

     

     

    Were these illegitimate meetings minuted and documented ?

     

     

    What priorities were given precedence by the SFA over

     

    these external influences ?

     

     

    Was this political interference immediately reported to

     

    UEFA ? If not why not ?

     

     

    Who within the SFA initiated or helped with the failed

     

    first attempt to parachute Rangers FC into SFL1

     

    i.e ‘make this all go away for the ‘cost of some titles

     

    and cups’ idea ?

     

     

    Why was Stewart Reagan (the Chief Executive of the SFA)

     

    present at the meeting of the SFL clubs to decide which

     

    league “Rangers” should be placed in?

     

     

    Has detailed minutes been taken over such an historic

     

    initiative when the inevitable Rangers liquidation was

     

    being discussed and decided upon ?

     

     

    If they haven’t, was there an independent body there

     

    to observe and to detail who was present considering

     

    the momentous decisions being discussed, i.e. kicking

     

    a cheating club out of the game?

     

     

    If so then where and when can we view the information

     

    of what exactly was discussed in these crucial meetings ?

     

     

    Why is EBT beneficiary and Head of the SFA Campbell

     

    Ogilvie still employed by the SFA ?

     

     

    How can the Scottish public be rest assured that

     

    Campbell Ogilvie has indeed taken a back seat in matters

     

    pertaining to Rangers FC & Sevco considering he presided

     

    as Director/Treasurer over possibly the biggest ever case

     

    of sporting malfeasance by anyone in the history

     

    of sport ? His defence of ignorance of wrong doing is not

     

    credible. His statement that he felt that he hasn’t been

     

    doing his job since February is therefore more

     

    unacceptable.

     

    When did he ever, other than preserving the continuation

     

    of Rangers FC, did his job as set down by the statutes of

     

    the association that he is head of ? and does the lack of

     

    any coherent action not bring charges of bringing the

     

    game into disrepute directly onto the SFA itself ?

     

     

    And if it does .. who handles this charge ?

     

     

    Is it known now by the SFA that Sir David Murray

     

    habitually lied to them and of so why have they

     

    never intimated that knowledge to the Scottish public ?

     

     

    Will an independent body eventually be appointed to

     

    investigate how the SPL handled Rangers liquidation

     

    and can we get assurances that this will not be buried

     

    under any new possible league reconstruction ?

     

     

    How much exactly or approximately did Rangers FC benefit

     

    financially from the kickback from the EBT ‘loans’,

     

    i.e. how much sponsorship, winnings, etc over and above

     

    their inherent turnover, did they gain from it ?

     

     

    When without the EBT usage and associated benefits

     

    (as above, winnings, CL money etc), would Rangers FC

     

    been declared bankrupt ?

     

     

    Why ? When it was apparent that vast quantities of

     

    external revenues were being used to finance the

     

    Ibrox club (Dave King, Joe Lewis/ENIC, JJB, NTL, MIH

     

    write-down, etc, etc, etc) did nobody in the SFA ever

     

    demand reassurances when things started looking bleak

     

    when Lloyds arrived to take over the financial dealings

     

    at Rangers ?

     

     

    The 25m pound wage that Dave King picked up via EBT 6

     

    months after joining Rangers, why were the SFA content

     

    with this transaction ?

     

     

    How would any of the former Rangers board who insisted

     

    that “the debt was coming down” when Craig Whyte took

     

    over (which of course it wasn’t – it was skewed by 2

     

    years of CL money) have funded the club in the 2011/12

     

    season and why did the SFA not seek any financial

     

    assurances then ?

     

     

    In the narrative of the SFA accounts for 2007 and 2008

     

    there is no reference to Smith leaving never mind

     

    compensation. Accounts have been approved by Messrs Peat,

     

    Ogilvie, McCrae and G Smith.

     

    Did Rangers FC ever pay the SFA compensation when

     

    Walter Smith walked away from the Scotland manager’s job?

     

    If not why has this never been reflected in any accounts ?

     

     

    What does Charles Green know about CO & other SFA

     

    members that permits him to act without fear of

     

    consequences of his actions within the SFA

     

    organisation ?

     

     

    Does the SFA find the Ibrox crossbar challenge an

     

    acceptable development ?

     

     

    Why is the SFA not insisting that Sevco pay their

     

    domestic and European football debts before spending

     

    money on anything else ?

     

     

    When will the SFA act on the repeated illegal and

     

    provocative behaviour of Sevco fans ?

     

     

    How exactly did the SFA manage to give Sevco a License

     

    without passing the proposal through their own board

     

    bearing in mind what happened with Craig Whyte and his

     

    outstanding fine ?

     

     

    Why has Sevco consistently been given higher grade referees

     

    for their matches compared to their division 3 counterparts ?

     

     

     

    Section 2. SPL governance, administration and accountability

     

     

    Are there any SPL employees or officials past or present

     

    apart from Martin Bain and John Mc Clelland who received

     

    EBT´s ? If so who are they and why did they receive them ?

     

     

    Who at the SFA were complicit either by either actively

     

    helping or turning a blind eye to the EBT scam ?

     

     

    Why were non-employees of Rangers FC receiving loans

     

    from a Trust set up for the benefit of said club

     

    receiving EBTs and the SPL were unaware ?

     

     

    How exactly did the SPL manage to give Sevco a License

     

    without passing the proposal through their own board ?

     

     

    Who within the SPL initiated or helped with the failed

     

    first attempt to parachute Rangers into SFL1 i.e

     

    ‘make this all go away for the cost of some titles

     

    and cups’ idea ?

     

     

    Has detailed minutes been taken over such an historic

     

    initiative when the inevitable Rangers FC liquidation

     

    was been discussed and decided upon ?

     

     

    If you haven’t, was there an independent body there to

     

    observe and to detail who was present considering the

     

    momentous decisions being discussed, i.e. kicking a

     

    cheating club out of the game ?

     

     

    If so then where and when can we view the information

     

    of what exactly was discussed in these crucial meetings ?

     

     

    Why was Neil Doncaster (the Chief Executive of the SPL)

     

    present at the meeting of the SFL clubs to decide which

     

    league “Rangers” should be placed in ?

     

     

    Which persons working within the SPL organisations past

     

    or present have received a Rangers FC EBT ?

     

     

    Why when it was apparent that vast quantities of external

     

    revenues were being used to finance the Ibrox club

     

    (Dave King, Joe Lewis/ENIC, JJB, NTL, MIH write-down, etc)

     

    did nobody in the SPL ever demand reassurances when things

     

    started looking bleak when Lloyds arrived to take over the

     

    financial dealings at Rangers ?

     

     

    Did anyone at the SPL ask to clarify the situation at

     

    Rangers when Walter Smith said (in October 2009) that

     

    the bank was “running the club” ?

     

     

    Will an independent body eventually be appointed to

     

    investigate how the SPL handled Rangers liquidation and

     

    can we get assurances that this will not be buried under

     

    any possible future league reconstruction ?

     

     

    What is taking the independent SPL commission chaired by

     

    Lord Nimmo so long ?

     

     

    When without the EBT usage and associated benefits

     

    (winnings, CL money etc), would Rangers FC been declared

     

    bankrupt ?

     

     

    Have other SPL clubs been fully investigated with regards

     

    to EBTs and second contracts ?

     

     

    Did the SPL use any of Rangers FC prize money as funding

     

    for the new improved parachute deal for Sevco that the

     

    SFL received ?

     

     

    If not then where did this money come from ?

     

     

    What will eventually be done with the Rangers FC prize

     

    money considering that they cheated to win it ?

     

     

     

    Section 3. SFL governance, administration and accountability

     

     

     

    Are there any SFL employees or officials past or present

     

    apart who received EBT´s ?

     

     

    If so who and why did they receive them ?

     

     

    How exactly did the SFL manage to give Sevco a full

     

    membership and not an associate membership against all of

     

    their own statutes ?

     

     

    Who within the SFL initiated or helped with the failed

     

    first attempt to parachute Rangers into SFL1 i.e

     

    ‘make this all go away for the cost of some titles

     

    and cups’ idea ?

     

     

    How exactly did the SFL manage to give Sevco a license

     

    so easily having never done this previously ?

     

     

    Has detailed minutes been taken over such an historic

     

    initiative when the inevitable Rangers liquidation was

     

    been discussed and decided upon ?

     

     

    If you haven’t, was there an independent body there to

     

    observe and to detail who was present considering the

     

    momentous decisions being discussed, i.e. kicking a

     

    cheating club entirely out of the game ?

     

     

    If so then where and when can we view the information

     

    of what exactly was discussed in these crucial meetings ?

     

     

    Why was Neil Doncaster & Stewart Reagan(the Chief

     

    Executives of the SPL & SFA) present at the meeting of

     

    the SFL clubs to decide which league “Rangers” should be

     

    placed in ?

     

     

    How much more money did the SPL & SFA have to promise

     

    the SFL to allow Sevco direct entry into the SFL ?

     

     

    Will an independent body eventually be appointed to

     

    investigate how the SFL handled Sevco´s admittance to

     

    the Scottish Football league as a full member and what it

     

    cost top level Scottish football ?

     

     

    Why were no non-league clubs offered the chance to apply

     

    for the vacant place in the league following Rangers’

     

    liquidation?

     

     

    Can we also get assurances that this will not be

     

    buried under any new possible league reconstruction ?

     

     

     

    Section 4. Rangers FC governance, administration and accountability

     

     

     

    How much exactly or approximately did Rangers FC

     

    benefit financially from the kickback from the EBT

     

    ‘loans’, i.e. how much sponsorship, winnings, etc

     

    over and above their inherent turnover, did they gain

     

    from it ?

     

     

    When without the EBT usage and associated benefits

     

    (as above, winnings, CL money etc), would Rangers FC

     

    been declared bankrupt ?

     

     

    Is it possible to see a comprehensive list of all

     

    EBT recipients if the FTT goes against the former

     

    club known as Rangers FC ?

     

     

    What criteria was used to decide who were to be

     

    EBT recipients ?

     

     

    Who set this and who administrated it ?

     

     

    How would any of the former Rangers board who insisted

     

    that “the debt was coming down” when Craig Whyte took

     

    over (which of course it wasn’t, it was skewed by 2

     

    years of CL money) have funded the club in the

     

    2011/12 season ?

     

     

    Who were the other EBT recipients ?

     

     

    When employees received the net payment were they

     

    given paperwork that qualified that; tax, PAYEE, N.I.

     

    had been deducted at source ?

     

     

    More to the point – why would tax and NI be relevant

     

    to a loan ? since these were loans not payments ?

     

     

    Did employees personnel accountants submit that same

     

    information (that they were possibly given) to HMRC

     

    when completing their annual tax returns ?

     

     

    Did your agent do likewise when he received his

     

    percentage fees ?

     

     

    When they received the net payment were they given

     

    paperwork that qualified that; tax, PAYEE, N.I. had

     

    been deducted at source?

     

     

    How do you equate Sir David Murray saying the EBTs were

     

    non-contractual with Billy Dodds saying he received his

     

    EBT to pay his contract up?

     

     

    Was one of Walter Smiths EBTs used to induce him away

     

    from the Scotland national job ?

     

     

    Were past managers and no longer employees of Ranger

     

    paid EBT´s as bungs during player transfer negotiations ?

     

     

    How much money did Sir David Murray invest into

     

    Rangers FC ?

     

     

    How much money did Sir David Murray pay himself

     

    from Rangers regardless of method ?

     

     

    The 25m pound wage that Dave King picked up via EBT 6

     

    months after joining Rangers, is this transaction

     

    officially documented and why were the accountants

     

    contented with this transaction ?

     

     

    Did any member of the media get payments as an “outside

     

    source” either via EBT or gift inducement ? and if so why ?

     

     

    Did any football official get payments as an “outside

     

    source” either via EBT or gift inducement ? and if so why ?

     

     

    Did anybody get payments as an “outside source” either via

     

    EBT or gift inducement ? and if so why ?

     

     

    Does Ibrox have a current, valid safety certificate?

     

     

    Have any surveys been conducted at Ibrox for the presence of

     

    hazardous + deleterious materials (eg Asbestos), and if so;

     

    Are occupants considered to be at risk ?

     

    Has any remedial action been planned ?

     

     

    What is the current market value of Ibrox?

     

     

    How did you, Sevco + Duff & Phelps agree on valuations that

     

    differed slightly from Sir David Murrays 120m valuation?

     

     

    Why was precedence placed on keeping valuable assets i.e the

     

    players and reducing their contracts to a worthless sum

     

    rather than selling the players for their market worth to

     

    help satisfy creditors ?

     

     

    What did Ally Mc Coist whisper in our Champions League

     

    managers ear ?

     

     

     

    Section 5. UEFA governance, administration and accountability

     

     

    Does the fact that Sevco now exists and plays professional

     

    football render the FFP initiative redundant ?

     

     

    Why does UEFA not care about monies that were NOT spent to

     

    ensure spectator safety (Taxes, Police, ambulance etc) ?

     

     

    Is this an acceptable precedent ?

     

     

    At what point will UEFA take an active role with the

     

    present malaise that is Scottish football ?

     

     

    Does UEFA recognise Scottish football is in a malaise due to

     

    the failures of the Scottish football association ?

     

     

    How can UEFA hope to implement any of its FFP policies if it

     

    continues with a hands off policy regarding failing national

     

    associations ?

     

     

    Has any UEFA employee ever received and EBT from Rangers’s

     

    employment benefit trust ?

     

     

    If the answer to the above is yes. Then who and does this

     

    help to explain UEFA´s non committal stance with regards

     

    to tackling the malaise that Scottish football is in right

     

    now ?

     

     

    Section 6. Sevco, administration and accountability

     

     

     

    Why did Sevco pay £140k of creditors money to public

     

    relations companies since Feb ?

     

     

    Why have the ECA been very reticent to discuss Sevco ?

     

     

    Does Ally Mc Coist have a 5% share in Sevco and can

     

    he prove that he paid for it ?

     

     

    What happened to the `Fighting Fund’ monies that were

     

    pledged ?

     

     

    What happened to the Milan friendly match charity

     

    proceeds ?

     

     

    Has Charles Green got enough to cover costs until

     

    Christmas ?

     

     

    How much has been earned from crossbar challenge and

     

    what is that money being used for ?

     

     

    Why did Green have such a high profile meeting with

     

    Loyalists in Belfast?

     

     

    What specific services did Media House provide for

     

    the £140k ?

     

     

    How can a club lose £4m in administration – I thought

     

    that administration was to be run at a break even basis

     

    including D&P costs ?

     

     

    What is the current market value of Ibrox?

     

     

    How did you, Sevco + Duff & Phelps agree on valuations that

     

    differed slightly from Sir David Murrays 120m valuation?

     

     

    What happened to the proposed litigation that you wanted to

     

    take against the BBC ?

     

     

     

    Section 7. Duff & Phelps governance, administration and accountability

     

     

     

    Where is Lord. Hodges report ?

     

     

    Who owns the deeds to Ibrox ?

     

     

    How much Rangers FC funds have been transferred to Sevco ?

     

     

    The Duff & Phelps & Grier & David Murray connection. How

     

    can you explain this relationship and is it legality ?

     

     

    What is the situation with the Ticketus 27m loss ?

     

     

    Was there any communication ever between Murray and

     

    Ticketus ?

     

     

    Why were assets valued at £140 million sold for £5 million

     

    that no one else has had the chance to procure ?

     

     

    Why did you still try to sign Cousins with creditors money

     

    when the club had already gone into administration ?

     

     

    How much is currently being paid to Ticketus ?

     

     

    What is the current market value of Ibrox?

     

     

    How did you, Sevco + Duff & Phelps agree on valuations that

     

    differed slightly from Sir David Murrays 120m valuation?

     

     

    Why was precedence placed on keeping valuable assets i.e the

     

    players and reducing their contracts to a worthless sum

     

    rather than selling the players for their market worth to

     

    help satisfy creditors ?

     

     

    What happened to the proposed litigation that you wanted to

     

    take against the BBC ?

     

     

     

    Section 8. HMRC governance, administration and accountability

     

     

     

    Will all ex players of rangers who received EBT loans be

     

    asked to pay them back ?

     

     

    Why did they ever think a non-repayable tax free “loan”

     

    was legal ?

     

     

    Were they advised badly ? If yes by whom ? and was it

     

    systematic ?

     

     

    Are they willing to repay the loan, or at least the tax

     

    payable on it ? as it was never a loan ?

     

     

    When will the FTT result be in and what is causing the

     

    massive delay ?

     

     

    What was said between Alex Salmond and the tax authorities,

     

    that if disclosed would cause a cross border incident and

     

    was this meeting minuted ?

     

     

    Were Ticketus conned ?

     

     

    Is the Octopus a Ponzi ?

     

     

    Will HMRC publish all correspondence between themselves

     

    and all MSP’s and Westminster’s MP’s ?

     

     

     

    Section 9. BDO governance, administration and accountability

     

     

    When do you start ?

     

     

    What is the delay ?

     

     

    Was there ever any communication ever between Murray

     

    and Ticketus ?

     

     

    Was there ever any communication ever between Murray

     

    and Ticketus

     

     

    Were Ticketus conned ?

     

     

    Is the Octopus a Ponzi ?

     

     

     

    Section 10. Media reporting and accountability

     

     

     

    What happened to the second part of the BBC documentary

     

    that Mark Daly promised ?

     

     

    Why ? When it was apparent that vast quantities of

     

    external revenues were being used to finance the Ibrox club

     

    (Dave King, Joe Lewis/ENIC, JJB, NTL, MIH write-down etc.)

     

    did nobody in the media ever question the possibility of

     

    money laundering when they never actually moved forward ?

     

     

    When will the media start to report honestly on the repeated

     

    illegal and provocative behaviour of Sevco fans ?

     

     

    When Craig Whyte was first being showboated by the Scottish

     

    media, no information was released by the media about Sir

     

    David Murray himself, However the day after Craig Whyte

     

    bought them Sir David Murray had announced his engagement

     

    to his fiance it made front page news on the red tops.

     

    Was this an early indication of how the Scottish media

     

    would play the Rangers takeover and inevitable liquidation

     

    out ? If so how was this decided upon … is this strategy

     

    minuted anywhere ? And how did competitors all agree upon

     

    the exact same strategy ?

     

     

    The Duff & Phelps & Grier & David Murray connection why

     

    was it never further investigated when it was revealed ?

     

     

    Will the NUJ investigate the journalistic standards of;

     

    The Daily Record, The Sun, The Herald, Evening Times,

     

    The Scotsman, BBC Scotland, STV, Radio Clyde, Scottish

     

    sports journalists working for English titles during

     

    Rangers administration and liquidation ?

     

     

    Were Ticketus conned ? Why has this never been

     

    investigated or reported ?

     

     

    Is the Octopus a Ponzi ? Why has this never been

     

    investigated or reported ?

     

     

    How can Jim Traynor do his job impartially for the BBC

     

    when he has been compromised by being seen in public

     

    with Sir David Murray and Walters Smith while having

     

    to issue personal apologies to Peter Lawwell through

     

    his newspaper at the same time ?

     

     

    How many EBT beneficiaries does the BBC employ on a

     

    full time , part time or contract basis ? and why ?

     

     

    Why is every Rangers match televised and how much have

     

    Rangers & Sevco earned from live TV coverage compared to

     

    other SPL clubs ?

     

     

     

    Section 11. Police accountability

     

     

     

    Why ? When it was apparent that vast quantities of

     

    external revenues were being used to finance the Ibrox

     

    club (Dave King, Joe Lewis/ENIC, JJB, NTL, MIH write-down

     

    etc), did nobody in the police ever question the

     

    possibility of money laundering ?

     

     

    When will the police start to act and report honestly

     

    on the repeated and provocative illegal behaviour of

     

    Sevco fans ?

     

     

    The Duff & Phelps & Grier & David Murray connection. Why

     

    has this never been reported or investigated ?

     

     

    Were Ticketus conned ? Are you investigating this ?

     

     

    Is the Octopus a Ponzi ? Are you investigating this ?

     

     

    Who represented the police at any of the creditors meetings

     

    with regards Rangers FC administration ?

     

     

    If there was no representation at these meetings then why

     

    not ?

     

     

    Are the police happy with all safety aspects regarding Ibrox

     

    stadium and are content that it meets all the necessary legal

     

    criteria to stage well attended football games ?

     

     

     

    Section 12. Green Hornet

     

     

     

    Why ? When it was apparent that vast quantities of

     

    external revenues were being used to finance the Ibrox

     

    club (Dave King, Joe Lewis/ENIC, JJB, NTL, MIH write-down)

     

    did ever the question arise that an obvious money

     

    laundering scam was possibly in place ?

     

     

    Who is Charles Green working for ?

     

     

    Why did the Bank of Scotland support MIH and in turn

     

    the Rangers to the level they did ?

     

     

    What was Gavin Masterton’s role and crucially the role

     

    of the Bank’s of Scotlands board in overseeing MIH

     

    transactions ?

     

     

    What specific relationships (professional, personal,

     

    society) was there with Sir David Murray ?

     

     

    Is there an even murkier ‘dirty laundry’ secret yet

     

    to be revealed ?

     

     

    What was the situation with regards SPL stadium

     

    refurbishment and Sir David Murray´s companies winning

     

    the contract for this work ?

     

     

    Was the stadium refurbishment an SFA or Bank of Scotland

     

    inspired strategy that just happened to help Sir David Murrays

     

    business ?

     

     

    Who really introduced EBTs to Minty – perhaps a big

     

    Fife banker and not a porno star ?

     

     

    Was there any communication ever between Murray

     

    and Ticketus ?

     

     

    The Duff & Phelps & Grier & David Murray connection.

     

    At what point was this known to the financial

     

    authorities ?

     

     

    How much did Sir David Murray receive from two Scottish

     

    Banks ?

     

     

    How much money did these two Scottish Banks receive

     

    from the UK taxpayer ?

     

     

    Were Ticketus conned ?

     

     

    Is the Octopus a Ponzi ?

     

     

    How much exactly or approximately did Rangers FC

     

    benefit financially from the kickback from the EBT

     

    ‘loans’, i.e. how much sponsorship, winnings, etc

     

    over and above their inherent turnover, did they gain

     

    from it ?

     

     

     

    Section 13. Scottish Courts

     

     

    Where is Lord. Hodges report and what is the status

     

    of it ?

     

     

    Why were suspicions not raised when in 1996 highly

     

    paid super star Andy Goram could only pay an issued

     

    fine with minimal installments ?

     

     

    Why were suspicions not raised when in 2001 highly

     

    paid super star Lorenzo Amoruso could only pay an

     

    issued fine with minimal installments ?

     

     

    Why were suspicions not raised when in 2008 highly

     

    paid super star Nacho Novo could only pay an issued

     

    fine with minimal installments ?

     

     

    Does this not indicate a massive failure within the

     

    judicial system ?

     

     

    Does it hint at financial malpractice possible fraud

     

    going back to 1996 ?

     

     

    What has been the delay in the FTT, Craig Whyte´s roofing

     

    prosecution, the report from Duff & Phelps to Lord Hodge ?

     

     

    Can the report delay delay liquidation ?

     

     

    If so why is this being so quietly accepted without recourse

     

    of action to the administrators

     

     

    Are all these delays related to one matter considering all the

     

    cases are ?

     

     

    Section 14. Alex Salmond and the SNP government

     

     

    Do you consider Sevco to be an integral part of

     

    Scottish society ?

     

     

    At what point in time were you made aware of the

     

    perilous financial situation at Rangers and by whom ?

     

     

    Would you welcome further endorsements of your party

     

    and policies by Sir David Murray ?

     

     

    Why are Sevco fans immune from the new legislation

     

    that prompted you to call for an immediate football

     

    summit ?

     

     

    If you were aware of Rangers perilous financial state

     

    before the football summit do you now accept that you were;

     

    either putting the cart before the horse (so why ?) or you were

     

    indeed hoodwinked into the Rangers must survive at all costs

     

    PR campaign orchestrated by Media house presumably

     

    especially considering that Sevco fans are immune from

     

    prosecution ?

     

     

    Are Sevco fans being spared from prosecution as this is

     

    what media house have requested ?

     

     

    To whom have you spoken to with regards the perilous

     

    financial state of Rangers and were these meetings

     

    minuted ?

     

     

    If not why not ? What do you have to hide ?

     

     

    Are you still proud of Rangers FC historic accomplishments ?

     

     

    Are you content that Scottish Independent Television openly

     

    admitted to becoming Rangers and Sevco´s official media

     

    partner as you had nothing to say on the matter ?

     

     

    Is this your vision of a future of Scotland where the only

     

    Independent Scottish Television channel is a customer

     

    of Rangers FC and then Sevco especially considering

     

    how much public finance is given to Sevco from BBC

     

    Scotland ?

     

     

     

    Section 15. ECA governance, administration and accountability

     

     

     

    Does the ECA approve of the use of EBT´s to pay players and

     

    football employees ?

     

     

    Has the meeting you have had with Charles Green been minuted ?

     

     

    Do you consider Sevco to have taken the place of Rangers within

     

    your organisation ?

     

     

    If yes how has this come to pass considering your own statutes ?

     

     

    Why has so far no decision been taken upon this ?

     

     

    Is Karl Heinz Rumennigge compromised in his position as head

     

    of the ECA considering that HIS General manager of Bayern Munich

     

    – a club he partly owns – is an EBT beneficiary ?

     

     

    Does the above also explain why the ECA have ignored this issue

     

    with regards to one of their founder clubs ?

     

     

    That the ECA statutes were partly written by John Mc Lelland is

     

    it safe to conclude that the ECA is only a vehicle to extract monies

     

    from UEFA for the use of club player on international duty and has

     

    no interest in FFP ?

  18. RogueLeader

     

    14:51 on

     

    15 October, 2012

     

    up_over_goal – In this country you can marry and fight for your country when you are 16. With that in mind I don’t see why they shouldn’t be allowed to vote. They are considered “adult” in those other ways.

     

     

    The fact he is just wanting it for this one issue is utterly transparent and will be used against him during the campaign.

     

     

    I think they will underestimate the 16-17 year olds. Not as many of them as they think will be swayed by the Braveheart re-runs and FREEDOM rhetoric. They are more than capable of absorbing facts and making up their own minds minus shameless propaganda.

     

     

    ………..

     

     

    Who says that is the only issue he wants them to get a vote in? He’s negotiating for them to get a vote in the referendum as that is the ballot he is negotiating for at the moment. I’m pretty sure in an Independent Scotland he will push for legislation for them to vote in every election.

  19. Steinreignedsupreme,

     

     

    i admire your optimistic outlook but as events have panned out so far in my opinion they have barely been punished as far as their crimes merit.

  20. up_over_goal – (not helped by the worst opposition since the parliament began)

     

     

    And there is the big reason I am anti-independence.

     

     

    I do not believe the wit or political guile exists, in any party in this country, to successfully turn us into a prosperous nation. Certainly not during this economic climate where we are going to need some creativity, intelligence and bravery to pull us through it. Qualities sadly lacking in the Scottish political spectrum.

     

     

    Salmond is the worst kind of opportunistic politician, bending any direction that will pick up a vote. I cite his staunch defence of the Sevcovite tax dodgers being lauded as a “fabric” of the nation when they owed us £95m.

     

     

    Don’t even start me on the Offensive Behaviour bill.

     

     

    I know we are not voting for a party but for something much bigger but as I say, the opposition is not much better.

  21. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Should there be a section for the SPFA ?

     

     

    and what questions would arise ?

     

     

    HAil Hail

  22. I’m not anti independence but I am anti independence if it’s to be under the governance of Salmond’s SNP.

  23. Steinreignedsupreme on

    danso_1888 15:16 on 15 October, 2012

     

     

    “i admire your optimistic outlook but as events have panned out so far in my opinion they have barely been punished as far as their crimes merit.”

     

     

    Correct. But that’s because it’s not over. The process takes time, and the real fun hasn’t even started.

     

     

    Be patient. It will be worth the wait.

  24. Awe Naw

     

     

    Brilliant piece of work but in my opinion you missed the most important question of all……

     

     

    IS IT STILL COLD IN HIS SHADOW?

  25. A couple of years ago the SNP wanted to restrict off sales to those over 21.

     

     

    Because 18, 19 and 20 year olds weren’t responsible or mature enough to buy alcohol.

     

     

    Now 16 and 17 year olds are responsible and mature enough to vote in the referendum.

  26. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Richie

     

     

    I asked him but he is more expensive than Alex Thomson ;-)

     

     

    Hail Hail

  27. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    OK bhoys

     

     

    think questions and sections

     

     

    What have I missed ?

     

     

    What question is burning away at you and I haven´t got it ?

     

     

    Hail HAil

  28. Most Celtic fans on my Twitter feed seem to be pro-independence.

     

     

    I’m persuadable but if the vote was today would vote against.

     

     

    Mainly because the SNP and their attempts to equalise political and sectarian behaviour through the Offensive Behaviour at Football legislation and McAskill’s comments after the Cup FInal really do make me wonder about what kind of Scotland an independent one would be.

     

     

    I’ve just returned home today from week holidaying in Argyle, a beautiful part of the world. Culturally though, parts of Scottish society have much less to offer.

     

     

    SwanseaBhoy

  29. Steinreignedsupreme on

    I bumped into four Sevconians yesterday – first time I’ve seen them in almost a year.

     

     

    I’ve known them all for decades and yesterday was the first time football was not discussed when we have been in company for over an hour.

     

     

    I was smiling constantly though.

  30. ernie lynch – Exactly. The worst type of opportunistic politics. Salmond has a spine made of Play-Doh.

     

     

    Leading a country to independence is an historic and monumental act. It should be an act that rises above party politics and has to be done by a brave, strong willed person. Somebody with the sole focus of what is best for the country.

     

     

    Could you imagine Salmond making a decision that would be best for Scotland but would lose his party popularity?

     

     

    You need somebody willing to do just that. There is nobody of that ilk, on either side.

  31. I have no problems with discussing a reduction in the voting age. But there should be a proper consideration of the matter – and there should be one voting age and not a different one for different elections.

     

     

    This is too important an issue to be stitched up between two smug gits!

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