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Scottish Premier League chief executive, Neil Doncaster, yesterday told the BBC that no provision existed for a liquidated SPL club to reconvene as a Newco FC at the bottom of the Scottish Football League (reported at 1821 on their crisis timeline).

This is being grossly misreported to suggest that the only opportunity for a Rangers Newco to phoenix is to slip straight back into the SPL – completely and utterly untrue.

There is also no provision for a Newco FC to slip into the SPL.  Newco FC would be able to apply for membership to the Scottish Football League (where they would unquestionably be accepted) or the Scottish Premier League.

The default position when a club goes out of business in the Scottish Premier League is that the club that finishes bottom of the league at the end of the season escapes relegation.  As things stand, Dunfermline would remain an SPL club and Ross County would be promoted.

No moral, legal or football administrative argument has been made to suggest that Dunfermline will be relegated to allow a new club entry into the league.  None whatsoever.  Dunfermline Athletic will remain a SPL club if Rangers are liquidated.

The various parties seeking to phoenix Rangers would get the lawyers onto securing a stadium, scouting some part-timers, buying a ticketing system, applying for entry into the Scottish Football League and finding cash to employ stadium stewarding. This could take weeks but is more likely to take months or even years.

Football needs to get used to this idea.

Neil Doncaster did not suggest a Newco FC applying for entry into the SPL had any primacy over an application to the SFL.  In fact, an application to the SFL would not have to overcome the unfortunate objections of Dunfermline Athletic  – who pay their BBC licence fee and are worthy of due respect.

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  1. could the ‘blue knights’ (or some fit and proper bunch) buy Dunfermline and move them to Ibrox– and try and entice the support of the defunct Rangers though?

  2. Pssssttt…

     

     

    Interested in a

     

    bankrupt football

     

    club? Losing £10

     

    Million a year, owe

     

    HMRC £15 Million,

     

    might be another bill

     

    for £50 Million. We

     

    also owe Ticketus £24

     

    Million. Oh! we owe

     

    some other SPL clubs

     

    Money and are being

     

    investigated by SFA,

     

    SPL and UEFA are

     

    starting to sniff

     

    about.

     

    Let me know by

     

    Friday…

  3. Eyes Wide Open on

    traditionalist88 on 7 March, 2012 at 19:32 said

     

     

    Keep them coming my friend.

     

     

    That stuffs pure magic!!

  4. row z \o/ (O) whatever part of my club is dependent on rangers I am willing to lose! on

    Paul 67

     

     

    Something is not right here. This is the key phrase from duff and diver…….

     

     

    “If a Company Voluntary Arrangement is not possible for any particular reason, any buyer of the Club and its assets would complete that purchase through a sale by the Administrators allowing the Football Club to continue to operate with the old company then being placed into liquidation prior to dissolution.

     

     

    1. Can the Administrators sell from underneath Whyte or do they need his consent?

     

     

    2. What might a ‘reasonable purchase price be for ‘the club and its assets’?

     

     

    3. Are D&P holding off to include players as an ‘asset’ in any sale?

     

     

    4. Who gets the ‘purchase price’ money and what do they do with it?

     

     

    5. If this happened as envisaged by D & P would HMRC pursue the new club/co?

     

     

    6. Has this been the plan all along and that all parties are complicit in working together?

     

     

    7. Why would the administrator involve McMoist in consideration of a sale? Surely he brings no skills to that process?

     

     

    I have a bad feeling now??

     

     

    Any of you financial guys want to set my mind at ease?

     

     

    HH

  5. Paddy Gallagher on

    Jobo Baldie on 7 March, 2012 at 19:48 said:

     

    Great article again Paul. At least I read it first!

     

    Jobo

     

    *****

     

    Well read Jobo :-)

  6. bunburybhoy on 7 March, 2012 at 19:44 said

     

     

    Duly noted,your on the hit list after fat sally,walter’s cardigan maker,

     

    sir dave,nacho,elbows ,and every single hun

     

    except for Craig Whyte(motherwell fan)

  7. Som mes que un club on

    I do hope you are correct Paul.

     

     

    What with them being the ‘peepul’ and all that, is bothering me, and making me nervous that they will walk back in unhindered…

  8. This is worse than the transfer window. Getting absolutely no work done.

     

     

    Administration

     

    then Liquidation

     

    We want the world to know

     

    We’re happy as can be

  9. West Wales Celt on

    Paul:

     

    You’re analysis is correct based on the rules and precedent.

     

    The problem is that we are talking about Rangers and this is Scotland.

     

    We both know that rules and fairness don’t apply. They haven’t been applying since the 1870’s.

     

    Administration or a crippliing CVA are the best (justice inducing) options.

     

    Liquidation will lead to a bounce back and all we (the victims) will be left with is the official loss of history; its not enough…

  10. sparkleghirl on

    Sorry for going on about it but…

     

     

    ………what would SPL rules be in the event that a club in the top half of the split had its points deducted after the split?

     

    Would they take the place of 12th place team for relegation? (thus leaving no space for a newco in a 12-team SPL)

     

    Or would 12th still be relegated, 6th kicked out with a spare place opening up for applications from interested parties?

  11. Barrach Obampot don’t need no stinkin’ Rangers on 7 March, 2012 at 19:36

     

     

    “we’re trying to break the world record for line grave dancing”

     

    ============================

     

    Deserves a repost, classic hahahahahahahahahahaha

     

     

    In deference to those celtic supporters who have gone before us and would have loved to experienced this scenario, all of you have a duty and responsibility to celebrate properly.

     

    http://www.champagnegold.co.uk/blog/How-to-Drink-Champagne-for-Maximum-Enjoyment/

     

    Lets do it in style and raise your glasses to our history.

  12. Well put Paul.

     

    I believe the practical mechanics (see what I did there) of demolishing, defending and rebuilding Rangers FC (In Administration) would take enough time to make the moral aspects out of the equation.

  13. This is the end

     

    Beautiful friend

     

    This is the end

     

    My only friend, the end

     

     

    Of Whytes elaborate plans, the end

     

    Of everything that stands, the end

     

    No safety or surprise, the end

     

    They’ll naw been seen on Sky…again

     

     

    Can you picture what will be

     

    So limitless and free

     

    Desperately in need…of old…Watty’s hand

     

    In a…desperate land

     

     

    Lost in a Romanov…wilderness of pain

     

    And all the Huns they are insane

     

    All the Huns they are insane

     

    Waiting for the debt to go away yeah

     

     

    There’s danger in the southside town

     

    Ride the Queen’s highway, Coisty

     

    Weird scenes out on the southside

     

    Ride the highway west, Coisty

     

     

    Ride out of Snake, ride out of Snake

     

    To the lake, the ancient lake, Coisty

     

    Snake is gone, the Taxman smiles

     

    Ride out of Snake…it’s old, and it gonnae be sold

     

     

    The Celts are the best

     

    The Celts are the best

     

    Get outta here, and they’ll do the rest

     

     

    The blue bus is callin’ us

     

    The blue bus is callin’ us

     

    Driver, where you taken’ us (Liquidation?)

     

     

    Coisty awoke before dawn, he put his boots on

     

    He took a girdle from the ancient gallery

     

    And he walked on down the blue hall

     

    He went into the room where his assistant lived, and…then he

     

    Paid a visit to Watty, and then he

     

    He walked on down the blue hall, and

     

    And he came to a door…and he looked inside

     

    Whytey, yes son, I want to kill you

     

    Whyte…I want to… get tae f*ck

     

     

    C’mon HMRC, take a chance with us

     

    C’mon HMRC, take a chance with us

     

    C’mon HMRC, take a chance with us

     

    And meet me at the back of the blue bus

     

    Doin’ a blue rock

     

    On a blue bus

     

    Doin’ a blue rock

     

    C’mon, yeah

     

     

    Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill

     

     

    This is the end

     

    Beautiful friend

     

    This is the end

     

    My only friend, the end

     

     

    It hurts to set you free

     

    But you’ll never follow me

     

    The end of laughter and soft lies

     

    The end of nights we tried to die

     

     

    This is the end

     

     

    HH

     

    /Bishop B

     

    jimmorrisoncsc

  14. The standard of sports journalism is shocking, perhaps one of the benefits of Dignity going Kerplunk is that it may not have to listen to this drivel … still I would not bet on it.

     

     

    IMO Dignity will not be playing next season as there will be too many legal & football wrangles .. We may need to wait 2 years for a Div 3 Dignity emergence, still their DNA still leaves a question mark of whether their pot chasers will fund it or indeed turn up

     

     

    BigLcfc

  15. Just off subject for a minute

     

    Did anyone see that Barcelona refused to attend a seminar of La Liga clubs due to their unhappiness about referees giving Real big decisions and being biased against Barca

     

     

    Good on them to have balls to stick up for their club against percieved honest mistakes

  16. Mr X loves having a "fly kick" on

    Just flicking through today’s Celtic View and pleasing to see several pages devoted to Fergus McCann and how he saved our club.

  17. Paul67.

     

     

    Do you think Chic was delibirately feeding the listenerss misinformation tonight or, as I suspect, is he really that stupid that he misunderstood Doncaster’s statement last night?

     

     

    He also seems to believe a host of “wealthy” huns is about to step in with Paul Murray to save them. Nonsense I believe.

  18. oops.Take

     

    Well put Paul.

     

    I believe the practical mechanics (see what I did there) of demolishing, defending and rebuilding Rangers FC (In Administration) would take enough time to TAKE the moral aspects out of the equation.

  19. This spouting about being unable to fulfils fixtures should see Duff & Phelps be stripped as their status of administrators and Rangers and in other areas of their business.

     

     

    They can’t claim to have done their job to try to keep the company going. They’ve done the opposite, everything they can to bring the club closer to liquidation. They’ve pretty much openly admit that. It’s a sale or liquidation, they aren’t willing to cut costs.

     

     

    Not being able to fulfil fixtures is a lie. If they don’t it’s because they don’t want to.

  20. angelgabriel on

    Paul 67

     

     

    Wee chico on shortbread seemed to think the SPL route for a newco is a foregone

     

    conclusion as there is no rule for admitting them into the SFL.

     

     

    No one asked where they would play,what they would be called,who would own them

     

    etc etc.

     

    Me thinks he is pandering to the deluded again. Happy days HH.

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    row z \o/ (O) whatever part of my club is dependent on rangers I am willing to lose! on 7 March, 2012 at 19:41 said:

     

    Bhoy 67

     

     

    Paul 67

     

     

    I agree with your post. Something is not right here. This is the key phrase from duff and diver…….

     

     

    “If a Company Voluntary Arrangement is not possible for any particular reason, any buyer of the Club and its assets would complete that purchase through a sale by the Administrators allowing the Football Club to continue to operate with the old company then being placed into liquidation prior to dissolution.

     

     

    1. Can the Administrators sell from underneath Whyte or do they need his consent?

     

     

    2. What might a ‘reasonable purchase price be for ‘the club and its assets’?

     

     

    3. Who gets the ‘purchase price’ money and what do they do with it?

     

     

    4. If this happened as envisaged by D & P would HMRC pursue the new club/co?

     

     

    5. Has this been the plan all along and that all parties are complicit in working together?

     

     

    6. Why would the administrator involve McMoist in consideration of a sale? Surely he brings no skills to that process?

     

     

    I have a bad feeling now??

     

     

    Any of you financial guys want to set my mind at ease?

     

     

    HH

     

     

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    6……..The alternative is Sally is therefor his football managerial talents

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