When Tony Mowbray was in charge of Celtic the club wrote to the SFA regarding the standard of refereeing in Scotland almost on a weekly basis. The outcome of this correspondence was not constructive, if anything, some at the Association hardened their stance.
A lot has subsequently happened.
Yesterday’s Sunday Mail referred back to Celtic’s dialogue with the SFA during Mowbray’s tenure, which I found interesting. Soon after, when a referee was found to have lied to Neil Lennon (and his supervisor), the association were vulnerable. Wounds opened at that time which have not healed.
The ‘paper suggested Peter Lawwell is “Driven, obsessively controlling, politically statute, manipulative. A master of the dark arts. There’s nothing he won’t do to get Celtic what they want. No-one he won’t attempt to control to get it”.
Quite a character assassination. I wonder what they’re worried about?
We are also told that our chief exec has “An over-arching influence on every facet of the Scottish game. He could have had a crack at sorting it for everyone. But no. That wouldn’t have sold any season tickets, would it?”
Those of you who bought a season ticket on the back of Peter Lawwell’s letter must feel the club went to extraordinary lengths to win your business. The article shared the fantasy many football fans have that Peter Lawwell being on the SFA board means Peter Lawwell controls the SFA. He doesn’t, but he is a formidable advocate of reform.
So what are they worried about? From my perspective, pretty much everything. The old ways were liquidated, we’re living in times with only one Super Power. The old ways are gone and they are never coming back.
Calls for Peter Lawwell to resign from the SFA board because he “wouldn’t recognise the greater good” are laughable. Those who interpret subtext will know this reads ‘Lawwell is an animated asker of difficult questions’.
What started five years ago with DVDs arriving at Hampden showing Robbie Keane yards onside has gotten a whole lot more serious, and personal, judging by the sustained attack on our CEO. If you think this is about Celtic writing a letter about a referee decision a week ago you couldn’t be further from the truth.
Never try to manipulate a master of the dark arts.
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Quonno,
This is not exclusive to Celtic.
Jerry Cornelius
I was at that Morton game in 69
Being from Greenock this was a bit bitter sweet given we had won the lot already
Morton always gave us a good Ron Oot back in the day what wi Bert Arntoft, Carl Berltessin etc.
Moorcockcsc
We certainly played them and beat in a Glasgow Cup tie at CP in April or May 1965.
My first game against the hun. Think it was on a Friday night .We won 2-1
PL is even more unpopular among the Smsm than he is on here!
;-)
HH!!
http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/1965-04-30%3A+Celtic+2-1+Rangers%2C+Glasgow+Cup
Did the SFA ever receive payment of the Walter Smith compensation 400k after Le Guen was bagged?
QUONNO 1348
Not sure that’s fair. We get kicked off the park with impunity.
When we go toe to toe we get booked first chance.
Oh the hurt from the huns and their allies in the press and the football authorities,I think we have been to soft on them,we should be getting uefa and fifa involved.Pete is far too soft
I’ve said it before I will say it again ban Waddell Keevins McCann Tanner from celtic park,
They haven’t got a good word to say about celtic,off oot Monday Club beckons.HH.
How i feel when the fourth estate attack.
Hail Hail.
As far as I know CO is not standing for re-election, but he should not be allowed to just quietly “retire” if he is guilty of wrong doing over the issues raised by Res 12.
Celtic should not be party to any deals that allow him to disappear into the sunset with his pension and ahem, EBT.
Much as I’ve grown to hate this word, so often has it been used in reference to the going’s on at Skull Mountain we do need transparency on all of the outcomes of Res 12.
If at the end of the process we end up with a team in blue playing out of Ibrox in the top division and the same blazers in charge of the game, what will have changed? Not a lot.
“The ‘paper suggested Peter Lawwell is “Driven, obsessively controlling, politically statute, manipulative. A master of the dark arts. There’s nothing he won’t do to get Celtic what they want. No-one he won’t attempt to control to get it”.
Quite a character assassination. I wonder what they’re worried about?”
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I’m no legal eagle but surely the comment above is actionable.
PL is a private citizen and is entitled to his good name.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
13:57 on
27 April, 2015
QUONNO 1348
Not sure that’s fair. We get kicked off the park with impunity.
When we go toe to toe we get booked first chance.
Have racked my brains and can’t think of anybody kicking Tommy Gemmel, Jim Craig, Bertie Auld or Davie Hay off any park.
Livibhoy
That Murderwell game was my works night out
aswell. Hence the two Killie games being only
ones I attended.
Hugh Bonkle fae Dallas
14:07 on
27 April, 2015
As far as I know CO is not standing for re-election, but he should not be allowed to just quietly “retire” if he is guilty of wrong doing over the issues raised by Res 12.
Celtic should not be party to any deals that allow him to disappear into the sunset with his pension and ahem, EBT.
Much as I’ve grown to hate this word, so often has it been used in reference to the going’s on at Skull Mountain we do need transparency on all of the outcomes of Res 12.
If at the end of the process we end up with a team in blue playing out of Ibrox in the top division and the same blazers in charge of the game, what will have changed? Not a lot.
Surely you never thought in your wildest dreams that anything would change.
Mad Pedro
HH
Lot of talk today of rotten media.
It always has been and will continue to be rotten as long as people buy it, read it and support it any fashion.
Bawsman
How you doing? Genuine question – what is it about the SNP that you don’t like? Surely a working coalition would be best for all centre left. Is it economics?
I found the sectarian behaviour of the SNP in 1982 shocking. I don’t think they are progressive enough now. But i think virtually every other party is moving right and they are moving left, and the idea of sectarianism now is completely redundant within the SNP / independence movement.
I see the SNP as a gateway to a scottish parly where old school socialism stands a chance, Green politics also. Where Scottish Labour can reinvent itself as the dominant party again with credibility, serving trade union interests. There is part proportional representation in the scot parly so radical politics can hold the power in coalition
also. For me, that is Green Party.
A left wing Scottish labour and Green Party Government is my preferred future outcome. I’m voting SNP as a means to an end.
note the BBC highlights have thrown 3 games into just over 3 minutes
i presume to hide the “extra time”
Quonno, call me an optimist.
I hoped that guys like Auldheid, BRTH etc wouldn’t have pursued it if nothing was going to change.
Has anyone heard Labour pledging to repeal punitive legislation that demands paying to go to Industrial Tribunal?
Given the choice now, who would give Ronnie a 10 year contract? I think I would. Lots of questions to be answered, but I really appreciate what he is doing. He’s a fun guy!
Hugh Bonkle fae Dallas
14:21 on
27 April, 2015
Quonno, call me an optimist.
I hoped that guys like Auldheid, BRTH etc wouldn’t have pursued it if nothing was going to change.
As someone who has spent a lifetime banging my head against brick walls, I admire their tenacity. I am doubtful as to how much success they will enjoy.
tallybhoy
13:56 on 27 April, 2015
PL is even more unpopular among the Smsm than he is on here!
>>>>
….and he is top of the oldco horde’s list of those who CONSPIRED (there”s that word again) to liquidate them ……. (Please note, fellow eejit, KevJ)
Celtic played the Deady Bears in a Glasgow Cup tie at Celtic Park in 69. Friday night .Deady Bears won 4 – 3.Willie Johnston scored a hat trick.
The ramping up of anti Celtic in general, and anti PL in particular, propaganda from the laptop loyal is directly related to this week’s pending decision on whether the glib & shameless one is a fit and proper person. They are trying to position the story so that if the SFA say he’s not, its PL’s who is blocking him.
The phoney war they’ve started against PL is what they think will make it more likely for them to get the result they want.
As much as I dislike PL in his role as CEO of Celtic…its never personal, as I don’t know the guy.
So, id like to see PL take these hun morons down a peg, im sure he has a few tricks up his sleeve.
Get intae them Pedro:)
HH
QUONNO
Neither can I!
Jee-zoh,they would be brave men to take on the legends you mentioned.
Even the legendary dirty Leeds got done over. In those days,you win the right to control the game.
‘“And there’s plenty more where that came from!”
Bertie and Davie in particular,men.
George Connelly wis no shrinking violet either when push came to shove. None of them were back then.
We had a wee winger a shade over five feet who took no nonsense from anyone!
south of tunis
14:31 on 27 April, 2015
Celtic played the Deady Bears in a Glasgow Cup tie at Celtic Park in 69. Friday night .Deady Bears won 4 – 3.Willie Johnston scored a hat trick.
Many thanks for that, thought I was right.
SOUTHOFTUNIS
Jonston cost me six pints in 85 when he scored to make it 5-1 to us.
Just as well,I was struggling wi the thirty I had won-pint for the result and pint per winning margin-off six super-optimistic Jambos in The Haymarket.
He might have saved my life,come to think about it.
Book Club
Original Rockers – Richard King .
A mighty fine memoria re the great Revolver Records record store in Bristol.
Book title is a tribute to the wowee good – Original Rockers LP – Augustus Pablo.
Highly recommended.!!!
Anyone who has followed Celtic knows that PL and Celtic do not get everything their own way. We (including the fans) still the subject of more cheating, bad calls, sectarian actions and legislation than any other club. If PL was fighting for Celtic against all comers, and pulling the strings, then how does one explain (i) Sevco being treated as the same club, (ii) LNS verdict and no stripping of titles, and (iii) Sevco fans marching while Celtic fans were kettled?
It is suggested that attacks on PL are proof that he is doing his job. It could be, but does not necessarily mean that. In fact, it could as easily mean the opposite; that until recently, he has not been doing his job.
So, given that these attacks are ramping up now, does this mean that the rest of the league were not unhappy with PL prior to now? If the attacks are proof that he is doing his job, shouldn’t no such prior attacks proof that he was not doing his job?
Some of us feel that PL has not fought hard enough for Celtic or its fans for several years. Equally plausible is that yesterday’s news is intended as a rebuke to PL for last weeks statement, and is intended as a reminder to PL of what may come his way if he rocks the boat. If so, why no rebukes before now? The answer would be that PL has either gone along with them, or not caused them any concern. The 5 way agreement, and Celtc’s role in it, is as important to know as the SFA’s shenanigans with LNS.
It is entirely possible that Paul67 is right, and, behind the scenes, PL is fighting the good fight. But, in my opinion, and based on the evidence, the other theory is equally likely. the only people who know about this (Celtic PLC and the SPFL) dont seem to be talking.
The problem is that whatever work is done by the Board is done without the knowledge or involvement of the fans (except a select few, who it seems have largely been sworn to secrecy … no criticism of Connaire, etc. intended).
As the Big Man once said, ‘football without fans is nothing’. Of course, the Board does most of the day to day work of running Celtic, but on issues like last week’s incident (have Celtic demanded a response of even when an answer can be expected?), the Board would do well to remember the words of Big Jock, and get/keep the fans informed, engaged and onside.
South Of Tunis
14:48 on
27 April, 2015
Book Club
Original Rockers – Richard King .
A mighty fine memoria re the great Revolver Records record store in Bristol.
Book title is a tribute to the wowee good – Original Rockers LP – Augustus Pablo.
Highly recommended.!!!
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Horace Andy “In The Light ” arrived this week. Excellent listening. Original recording plus the dub version.
Cathedral View
13:03 on 27 April, 2015
Who was it that said sort the refs and you sort the problem.
cv
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The Exiled Tim
is known to say
“Sort the MIBs sort the problem” :)))
Phils latest blog is intteresting
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/hurry-and-wait/
HH
Snowing in the west of Glasgow.
http://youtu.be/8c14buJtYSs
interesting even!!
” Viva Big Peter…..VIVA!”