Yesterday’s win at Fir Park was huge for Celtic’s season but we should caution against talk of a corner being turned. The team possessed the resilience (and Irish magician) to come from behind and beat the team who were second in the league, but we have been here before.
The Motherwell goal will cause Neil Lennon particular concern. After losing a goal to an early corner kick against Rennes on Thursday, it seems impossible to believe that the team switched off at another corner kick, but only Beram Kayal was alert to the threat of Motherwell taking a short corner, and he was already covering a threat.
Organisational discipline is as important as having better players to the outcome of many football games.
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tictalker
When you talk about tictaks I normally agree with you, but on this ocassion I disagree 100%, Sammi is one of our better defenders when it comes to ariel ability, or do you have a wee thing about Sammi :>)
Big Hail Hail to all suggestions re: my travel to match.
Cheers lads
tictalker
Ah yes, the poor jumper that is Samaras – set up two goals in the last two games by er, heading the ball, won everything coming his way against Rennes and again on Sunday, deployed successfully as front post header.
Apart from that he cannae jump.
iki
Is there a link to the prog??
tictalker-can see The Roses at Hampden too possibly mate.
exiled tim well do you think if we got beat yesterday lennon would still be in charge,last week myself and thousands of celtic supporters.no win at motherwell then it would have been curtains for him. and he is not out of the woods yet.but deep down i hope that we can pull our socks up try and win all our games ,put a bit of pressure on rangers and hope we can take the title of them. its not going to be easy but comon you bhoys in green do what u have to do, as i asked earlier has the reserves got any games this week.
SFTB
“Just because Roxburgh and Brown managed dour and unexciting, but, relatively successful, national sides, we assume
their approach is equally dour and unexciting….The fact that some of these are not adhered to has little to do with the
SFA approach and has a lot to do with the Scottish male psyche.”
Agreed.
Looks like timbhoy2 is ignoring questions put to him, fair enough tb2, but if you want to be taken seriously all you have to do is answer one now and again, or do we take you to be at the windup ?
tictalker
To be fair to Sammy in the last 2 games his headers have led to goals, his header on Sunday he got well above the defender
THE EXILED TIM
I am just stuck in an era of centerhalfs and the bigger players going to meet every ball in the box to take the heat off the team.
but hasn’t everyone got a wee thing for Sammy :O)
tictalker talking tic
timbhoy2 Dear oh dear.
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ says:
7 November, 2011 at 23:06
Sorry can’t help. I listened to live broadcast
I heard a couple of bits while I was making the dinner then another session when I was doing the dishes.
Maybe I should dine out and save myself a lot of stress!
timbhoy2
I was too quick of the mark there, thanks for the reply, I do not believe that Lenny would have been gone if we had lost yesterday, if we had had a fair referee and lost, I would have been inclined to agree with you, but as all Tims know, we are up against 14 men every game we play.
I understand you are frustrated like we all are, what is the answer? I wish I knew, cos if I did I wouldn’t be writing on this blog, I would be living it somewhere in the sun with not a care in the world, now where have I heard that before.
Keep saying like you think it is, fair play to you.
timbhoy2 –
Not being funny, but you have twice asked for information re Celtic reserve games this week. No problem in you asking, but to come back and say – I’ll ask again . . . why don’t you just use your initiative and log into the official Celtic website and navigate to . . . let’s see . . . U19 fixtures?
It’s what I’d do, but I sure as hell ain’t gonna do it for you.
Hail Hail
Remember, remember the 8th of November. Tomorrow our fellow CQNer, The Token Tim celebrates his birthday.
Many Hoopy early returns Token and hope your 50th birthday goes well.
HH
CRC
I am Neil Lennon on a celticrollercoaster says:
7 November, 2011 at 23:20
Just like to 2nd that birthday wish :p
jude2005
If you have iTunes you can download a podcast from the following link . . .
Superscoreboard
some fine shots of the lads tonight, in the dressin room, tunnel etc
well done lads !
Marcus says they didnae play well but good result keeps them goin in the NextGen tourny
http://www.nextgenseries.com/en/FixturesResultsTables/Results/Mon-7-11-11/Celtic-ManCity/Celtic-ManCity
Can yeez please give the anal marking debate a rest.
Bring back the poppy debate I say.
MWD
iki
Agree I used to quite enjoy listening to the programme, but now I will listen when I am in the car on the way home from work which is around 20mins. Their condescending attitude and lack of respect shown towards callers is disgraceful, they are happy to take the money for their appearances on the show which I imagine would be quite a handsome payment for 2 hours work. Their conduct comes across as a bunch of people who are completely bored with the whole thing. It sounds as though they have actually developed a complete dislike to the people (callers) who maintain their employment .
Eyes Wide Open, The Hat and Clashcitybhoy
Thanks for the feedback.
Obviously, I agree that we can do Zonal better with better players. My argument, though is that Zonal approach minimises the individual weaknesses in jumping approach and that these players would be poorer in a man to man system of marking. I agree that there was evidence of a breakdown in communication from coaches to players, but I felt the player, Kayal, was at fault, in not following through instructions.
I disagree that we abandoned Zonal when Marcus Fraser came on . There was no change to the system. What I did see was Big Dan withdrawing Marcus from a position in his zone to come nearer Dan’s starting point. Of course Rennes placed the free kick exactly where Marcus had just vacated and they got a free header which, fortunately, went over the bar.
Evening Bhoys.
Apologies but not had chance to read back, how did out wee Lions get on tonight?
hamiltontim says:
7 November, 2011 at 23:29
Won 2-1 buddy
HH
THE EXILED TIM says:
7 November, 2011 at 23:10
‘or do we take you to be at the wind up’
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If you look at the writing style, over a period of time,
it has a constant to it. Fabricated and deliberate, IMHO.
My apologies in advance if i am wide of the mark, TB2.
The joys of a recession, my mate who is back in britland has just e-mailed me telling me he has sold his cave, and if I would be so kind as to tell the tennants who haven’t paid rent for 6 months to leave asap, aye right, anyways he has had it on the market for over a year, initally for 128k, sold it today for 38k, desperate for money or what.
just to clear up.
i am not saying sammy cant attack a header up the park. i am not one of the C.Q.N Sammy bashers
i am saying for the size of him i do look for more defending.
there is an aggressiveness that is missing when defending with players like Dan and Sammy but i think charlie has got it.
i just see zonal marking puts pressure on us because some big don’t need to take enough responsibility for going and meeting the ball.
if you disagree i would be open to listening to where you think we can improve in this area if you feel it needs improved.
tictalker talking tic
Five of us at the bus-stop this morning. Decided to man mark. Ran beside the bus all the way into town.
Five of us at the bus-stop this evening. Decided to zonal mark. Missed the flamin bus.
tictalker
No me, Sammi is the most gifted footballer we have at the club imo, honestly.
Big Packie’s Accent
Me at the wind up, no never :>)
Spiers says we need a strong Celtic and Rangers, I wonder if they would all be saying this if the shoe was on the other foot hmmm I think not.
I want them out, hang them I say HMRC you know it’s right.
John mac looked stressed right oot his doo hut lol and that whyte wae them big fishy eyes jeez he’s wan ugly bass a match made in heaven I say wae him and Huns.
The SFA’s first performance director believes investment in youth football is crucial for the game to prosper in Scotland.
“If you don’t invest in your youth you will have nothing in the end,” warned Mark Wotte, who began his role in June.
“We want to invest in our elite players; otherwise we are lost.
“I think the infrastructure can be better, programmes can be more intense and there should be better co-operation between clubs and academies.”
Speaking at Hampden on Monday, Wotte said the game was punching below its weight and that money spent on improving football would deliver long-term benefits.
Central to raising standards are the seven performance schools, which are about to be launched.
“I have seen all levels,” the Dutchman said. “I have been to the national team, the Scottish Premier League, the Scottish Football Leagues, the youth leagues and national youth teams.
“I think in general, we are under-achieving. To be honest, we are not good enough and I think we can do a much better job at every level.
“But it is a big task for us Scottish football people to improve and make sure that in a couple of years we will do better.
“I think the infrastructure can be better, I think programmes can be more intense and there should be better cooperation between clubs and academies.
“In schools, the government has to do more for general health purposes. Physical education should be much more important in primary school.”
Forrest caught Wotte’s eye with his recent performance against Kilmarnock
Wotte arrived in Scotland in June, his role the result of Henry McLeish’s first batch of recommendations for improving the state of Scotland’s national sport.
He was a former technical director at Feyenoord and had extensive managerial experience in Europe and the Middle East.
The performance schools, which will take talented 12-16 year-olds, is based on the notion that, to produce world-class athletes, 10,000 hours of practise must be invested from the age of 10-20 or from 12 to 22.
The SFA is in the process of appointing seven coaches to run the schools.
Wotte, who described Scottish clubs’ poor showing this season in European competition as a “reality check”, points out that other small countries, such as Belgium and Slovenia, spend twice as many hours with their best national youth players.
There are good young Scottish players but we should give them more chance to play first-team football
Mark Wotte
SFA’s performance director
And to rectify that, he plans to put programmes in place for the best 15-19 year old players in Scotland.
“We are trying to create a better programme for the national youth players to train them every week at the national training centre, to train the best with the best,” he said.
“We have started communication with the clubs and the academies and I have started communication within the SFA to intensify the programme for the national youth teams to create national training centres.
“To have your home-grown players in your first-team is very good for the clubs, because it is cheaper. You don’t have to pay a fee to bring foreign players, you don’t have to pay high wages.
“I saw Kilmarnock versus Celtic with only five Scottish players on the pitch from 22. That makes me very sad, but the best player on the pitch was a 20-year-old Scottish player: James Forrest.
“There are good young Scottish players but we should give them more chance to play first-team football.”
Wotte praised the coaches of Kilmarnock and St Mirren [Kenny Shiels and Danny Lennon, respectively] for their efforts to play good football this season and went on to point out that the current financial climate made it more important for clubs to produce their own players.
And he added: “The best thing I have seen in Scotland is the mentality and the desire to challenge but against more skilful teams it is not enough.
“Playing 4-4-2 with the long ball and picking up the second ball – trial and error football – is not good enough any more.
“I am sure that in 2020, six or seven players in the national team will have a performance school history. There is no doubt in my mind.
“We just have to be patient and sometimes that is difficult in football because we want to be better tomorrow.”
Bundoranbhoy
Good man ye are, thank you.
THE EXILED TIM
:o)
tictalker talking tic
hen1rik
They didn’t say it in 94 in fact had a hearse outside the stadium and on their front pages, at the time they were fully rejoicing in our impending demise
hamiltontim
Pleasure buddy
HH
John MacMillan of Ragers SC once contributed to radio Scotland phone in about The Famine Song.
He defended the fans and the club as expected; insistently and inarticulately.
And then ……. the host asked him how he could defended the lyrics of The famine Song.
He said he did not know the lyrics!
At that point, he exposed himself as either an exponent of mendacity or a common or garden idiot.
It is always good for the spirit when someone lives down to your expectations.
Bed time for this bhoy.
Today was a bad day for the finances, car insurance, tyres for same car,and water bill that I had forgotten about, at least tomorrow will be less painfull, hopefully, no I forgot I paid for daughter and the grandweans flights early next year as well, what is money if you can’t spend it and enjoy spending it.
Night bhoys
HH
KTF
Remember before you slumber,
Sort the referees, you will sort the problem.
“Somos el Celtic”
Sftb 23.00 Hear! Hear! I was at a st Johnstone led sfa coaching course on Sunday. It was led by former Celtic 70s heartthrob atholl Henderson (aye I know I googled him). It was very refreshing. It was all about ball skills, positivity, enthusiam, game awareness, teamwork, sportsmanship and, yes, winning, but with a long term perspective. I wish I’d that kind of coaching when I was a kid. Ok I’d never have made it but I’d be a better player.
What we need are facilities and more adults prepared to accept that the bad old ways we learned are pre-historic. There were about 40 guys, and one woman, on this coaching day and many of the others are sold out. Atholl was excellent. I also noticed in the Sunday herald that the vast bulk of young players it suggested “to watch” were celts. So, a lot of hope for the near and longer term future.
Tom McLaughlin
You mentioned the Shankill Butchers earlier
Seriously chilling stuff,
Long time since I read the book but a thing that struck me at the time was that the “security forces” seemed rather inept in bringing this gang to book.
their reign of terror lasted a lot longer than it should have if there had been even handed law enforcement.But then again thats why the whole place went up in flames in the first place.terrible dark days