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Organisational indiscipline remains a concern

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Yesterday’s win at Fir Park was huge for Celtic’s season but we should caution against talk of a corner being turned.  The team possessed the resilience (and Irish magician) to come from behind and beat the team who were second in the league, but we have been here before.

The Motherwell goal will cause Neil Lennon particular concern.  After losing a goal to an early corner kick against Rennes on Thursday, it seems impossible to believe that the team switched off at another corner kick, but only Beram Kayal was alert to the threat of Motherwell taking a short corner, and he was already covering a threat.

Organisational discipline is as important as having better players to the outcome of many football games.

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  1. MurdochauldandHay says:

     

    7 November, 2011 at 16:58

     

     

    No supplier in their right mind would give Rangers any credit. Cash up fron or you will end up having to take them to court to get them to pay up!

     

     

    LB

  2. Curly/BarryBhoy,

     

     

    shows how much attention I have been paying to our SPL opponents…….couldnt have told you about either of those points!

     

     

    Cheers for the info.

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

     

     

    ConcernedOnlyWithCeltic CSC

  3. TBB- ‘Hail Queen of Heaven, the Ocean Star’

     

     

    ..one of my favourite hymns.

     

     

    We got ‘Sing Hosanna!’ which put me in mind of the ole #7, and the bucketload of goals he used to get against the Mothers.

  4. Whens the electricity and gas prepayment meters going in? I mean the heating will have to be on all winter and that will cost a fortune, never mind the bill for using the floodlights so they migh ask that all home games startat 10 in the morning!

  5. Henryclarkson

     

     

    & TopCorner

     

     

    Thanks alot gents much appreciated. Lenny & Thommo’s celebrations….love it!

  6. My dear,dear,dear,dear,friend… Top Corner(TOP GUY!) @ 15.16

     

     

    Pal.. Ye wull ayewiz be.. TOP GUY.. tae me.. Pally!

     

     

    Ye did it Again!

     

     

    Great!… tae see the Celtic Players Schmoozin’ wi the Young Celtic Fans..

     

     

    That is wit P.R. is Awe Aboot…

     

     

    Get ’em Young. and Get ’em Hooked!!

     

     

    Ah Luv Yer Woik, Pal…

     

     

    a Loata Labor.. but, a Labor o’ Luv, nevertheless..

     

     

    Here, is Wan Fellah who thinks Yer Swell!

     

     

    Keep Em’ Comin’!

     

     

    Kojo.

     

    yer pal. who likes ye mair and mairer.

  7. Big debate recently about the merits or otherwise of Zonal Marking.

     

     

    For what its worth IMO opinion it works.

     

     

    But only if all players have a CLEAR understanding of their role when zonal marking is in operation.

     

     

    This is where training comes in.

     

     

    It seems to me it is

     

     

    a) not being worked on properly at training and

     

     

    b) no account of how the opposition (in terms of their players) set themselves up if it is being worked on in training.

     

     

    3 things need to happen to rectify our ‘bad luck’ when defending using zonal marking.

     

     

    1. No more days off.

     

     

    Rest days can be used to practice zonal marking drills

     

     

    2. Passive practices

     

     

    Corners and set pieces from left, centre and right; 25 yrds, 30 yrds, 35 yrds and 40 yrds out. Swinging the ball in or out, near post, central or far post or allow the ball to ‘drift’ in to similar areas. Attacking players have no set instructions.

     

     

    2. LIVE practises

     

     

    Same as 1 but attacking players are set out as the coming games opposition would AND are given clear instructions on how to attack the ball being sent in.

     

     

    Keep practicing until all players have completed all scenarios, are clear on their and their team mates role during the set play and no goals are conceded during every scenario. Play is LIVE until the ball goes out for a goal kick or shy to us.

     

     

    They’ll soon get it right so they can get back to the golf course or tattoo parlour on their days off.

     

     

    I have no opinion on tattoos!

  8. Bhoyin England @ 15.08 and others re bookies and Neil Lennon:

     

     

    Owen Coyle’s mother in law has said nothing yet and until she does there is nothing to discuss.

  9. Ernie Lynch @ 16.24

     

     

    No offence but Spain and Holland have doing this sort of thing for years from age 7 and up.

     

     

    Can you remind me where their international rankings are in relation to Scotlands???

     

     

    No offence to you but I think your, and scottish football in generals, approach to coaching should take on a more cosmopolitan outlook.

     

     

    BTW it works for my team now and will bear much more fruit when they mature through the game.

     

     

    Also, show me your badges then we can talk.

  10. Having watched the goals from both games there have to say the finishing was excellent but also well done sammi, did well to set up goals in both games. as for paddy the mans a genius!!

  11. MadraRua says:

     

     

    7 November, 2011 at 15:13

     

    Mickey, like all his brothers is one of the most gifted and humorous songwriters/singers in IReland. I have sat with him in John B Keane’s pub in Listowel many a Saturday night.

     

    heard brother Cathal (one of the best flute players alive) a few weeks ago in Sandy Bell’s in Edinburgh. Some singer too. I reckon he has a verse for every townland in Ireland

     

    Enid Blyton.

     

    famousfivesecretsevenfourmarysthreelovelylassesonlyone neillennon CSC

  12. Good evening friends.

     

     

    My bhoy was planning to go to the U19 game tonight but when I left the city centre an hour ago it was dense fog and i’d guess the game would be in doubt. Can any of my fellow regional weather reporters say whether the situation’s improving?

     

     

    Jobo

  13. Neil Lennon A Celt For Life.

     

    Mowbray had badges sacked,Calderwood has badges sacked,Keane has badges sacked,Jeffreys has badges sacked.Certicates not worth the paper they are written on IMHO.Slan

  14. Neil Lennon is (and always will be) a Celtforlife (*O*) says:

     

    7 November, 2011 at 17:17

     

     

    ‘Also, show me your badges then we can talk.’

     

     

    Ah yes, possession of a coaching badge means you must be right.

     

     

    Given that everyone and his brother involved in coaching football in Scotland has a badge it’s surprising we’re not world beaters.

     

     

    That’s probably where the Africans and South Americans are going wrong. Not enough badges.

  15. SOAL @ 16.18

     

     

    I dont coach zonal marking to 8 year olds, you misunderstand me.

     

     

    I coach a ZONAL system to them, this ensures those on the left stay left OR centre, those on the right stay right OR centre depending on where the play is. It also teaches them to never leave a team mate isolated in a zone. Allows TWO options out of the zone for passing and ball retention or pressing.

  16. It’s No Badges.. My Dear Virginia. ye need..

     

     

    It’s

     

     

    MALLUM… ad Plenty oaf IT!

     

     

    Kojo

  17. Looks like Anthony Stokes is odds on to make the twenty goal mark for the third season on the trot if he can avoid injury. Good to see that he has upped his workrate and if he continues in his present form and gets more goals particularly in Europe, Giovanni Trapattoni may come calling for a place in the ROI squad should they qualify as expected for the European finals in the summer.

     

     

    Failure to score headed goals is a big failing with the current Celtic squad particularly as we all remember John Hartson, Sutton and Henrik who were all lethal in the air and a great asset when dealing with SPL packed defences.

  18. Neil Lennon is (and always will be) a Celtforlife (*O*) says:

     

     

    Spanish schoolkids [where I am] are taught the zonal system from about 7 yo, and by the time they go to secondary school they are very familiar with the system.

     

     

    I have seen the local team training some of the training is one and two touch, within their zones, it’s a joy to watch the speed they move the ball about, and they always, and it’s a must, that they have to allow the man with the ball an out.

     

     

    Pass and move, simple really.

  19. saltires en sevilla on

    hankray says:

     

    7 November, 2011 at 17:30

     

     

    oh aye…

     

     

    see heeded goals

     

     

    see league flags

     

     

    they gang the gither FACT

     

     

    ;-)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    M

  20. TheGreenManalishi(WithTheTwoProngedCrown) on

    “Badges? We ain’t got no badges. We don’t need no badges! I don’t have to show you any stinkin’ badges!”

     

     

    fredCDobbscsc

  21. From twitter –

     

     

    polishturnstile Anthony R. Hamilton

     

    St Johnstone v Aberdeen scheduled for tonight has been postponed due to fog. #Celtic NextGen match v #MCFC goes ahead at 1945.

     

     

    But thanks for all your help ;-)

     

     

    Jobo

  22. The Exiled Tim.

     

     

    You stated the other week that you believed it to be a FACT that Dermot Desmond would have Celtic playing in a different league within two years.

     

     

    Why are you so confident about this?

     

     

    TT

  23. Rocket Man says:

     

    7 November, 2011 at 16:30

     

     

    It’s imposing adult discipline on a child’s game and will kill any creativity stone dead.

     

     

    Too many grown ups living their lives by proxy.

     

     

    Reminds me of the Brian Glover character in Kes.

  24. fanandpatriot/EL

     

     

    I totally agree I would go further and say kids these days are OVER COACHED.

     

     

    But badges are a start and you do NEED them to be any way involved in a youth set up.

     

     

    If it sets your mind at ease I did my badges because I had to and have been studying alternative coaching methods to find an ‘edge’ over other teams.

     

     

    So to that end… and i’ll give you this for free… I have never done any form of distance work with ANY youth player from age 8 to 17.

     

     

    I am also a sprint coach and all my drills are based around sprint work from an early age.

     

     

    Got to get those Type II muscles developed!

     

     

    EL yuo are right WE DONT NEED NO STINKING BADGES but unfortunately the SFA does!

  25. Celtic HIV a guy..’

     

     

    NOO!

     

     

    Who sure kin Use his Heid…

     

     

    And At COARNERS.. as Weel!

     

     

    Young Omar Bogle.. Scored

     

     

     

    TWO GOALS..with his.. Of AWE THINGS!

     

     

    His HEID… from Two Coarners.. in his Last outing..

     

     

    Well..

     

     

    Howedya Like Dem Apples?

     

     

    Ah believe we hiv Found a Saviour..

     

     

    Kojo

  26. The Battered Bunnet on

    Celtforlife

     

     

    If you’re managing to get the kids to consistently provide two pass options in a 7 aside game you’re doing a hell of a job.

     

     

    More power to you.

     

     

    The fool that ‘coaches’ my kid’s U15 team stands on the touchline and bawls for 80 minutes. Training is ‘stamina’ work. Losses are attributed to more stamina needed or lousy attitudes on the park. He’s got his SFA Level 4 badge, at a Quality Mark club.

     

     

    His approach is the antithesis of that of the U16s at the same club, where the bhoy now trains.

     

     

    Training is in the brain as well as the feet. Can’t have one without the other.

     

     

    I asked the bhoy after a recent game what the coach had said. He replied: “He said ‘You were hitting the channels, but they weren’t my channels’.”

     

     

    I asked him if he understood what this meant.

     

     

    He said “Yes Dad, it means the coach is a f@#.”

     

     

    At least the language skills are improving….