A recurring gripe I have had about our transfer business last season was the lack of players bought with development scope ahead of them. £26m was spent on Auston Trusty, Adam Idah and Arne Engels. Arne might be able to nudge his £11m price tag up a shade, but I doubt we will see our money back on the other two.
Viljami Sinisalo and Paulo Bernardo (who signed permanently in August 2024) are the exceptions. Viljami featured when Kasper Schmeichel was injured and Paulo featured less-often than during his loan season. They came in with the right profile, but have yet to be properly developed.
With Callum Osmand, who joined yesterday from Fulham as a free agent, we have orientated back to plan. Osmand (19) is exactly the kind of player we should be looking for. Like Moussa Dembele and Matt O’Riley, he has come through the development system at Fulham, but believes he will see better opportunities at Celtic than waiting around looking for a gap to open up which will not be filled by a big money signing.
Time will tell if the scouting was good, if Callum will get the chances he has clearly been suggested are open to him, and if he can kick on. A high percentage of all signings fail, but at least we appear to be working to a coherent plan.
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dearie me, i see the first japanese players as being a non-sensical signing, from JF.
we dont need him, we shouldnt buy him, there must be beteer in the j league, blah blah blah..
but several people in the celtic organisation must be aligned if we are going in for him.
too far fetched to even think that our current japanse players were asked for opinions on the two players and probably responded in the positive ?
CHAIRBHOY on 1ST JULY 2025 5:45 PM
Celtic40me @ 4:35 pm,
With all due respect I’ve already stated my POV…
“…BR&CO’s job in that respect is taking top quality professional Celtic first team players and making them better”
That’s not the job, but I’d bet he’d like to be able to pick and choose – It’s definitely not what he said it was back when he first came. Even for players like Kwon
It is convenient, though, safer bets perfectly sets you up to give credit for all the successes, and disregard the failures on development. It seems to change with time, possibly according to the outcomes.
You did describe Nic Kuhn as no better than squad player when he first signed, maybe it was the analytics, or the scouting that meant Brendan saw it differently.
Where does the new signing from Fulham fit in?
Celtic40me @ 6:13 pm,
Nic Kuhn was developed by Jong Ajax and Bayern Munich II.
Now we are all aware that this doesn’t guarantee you will become a top player as the Celtic youth who went to Germany found out – it does mean you will have access to a top develop model.
It didn’t rely on the Ajax manager, it didn’t rely on the Bayern Munich manager.
Those managers at that time may well have cast an eye over Nic, may well have had an input in his next move – yet they were not responsible for his development, far too busy with the day job.
The new Fulham signing gave an interview didn’t he?
He has bought into the plan and pathway Brendan Rodgers has for tge Club, he has his own personal pathway that he likes, he understands and can’t wait to get started.
Where’s the mystery!?
Hail Hail
Saint Stivs on 1st July 2025 5:45 pm
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Excellent post.
https://youtu.be/WprJNSzmmjM
A long time ago.
A vary committed and clever old tim Celtic supporter said something to me, the fella is gone now but it has had me pondering this last few days.
Why now for Mr Murray, to nearly ask for forgiveness, I am sorry, not my intention all this hurt that was caused, but I was duped, and then that Lawwell wanted to bury the Rangers, and this book, it is for Erskine funds after all.
Meanwhile this fella is in reality richer than ever he was before, because he does have his own money now, he isnt spending others, the Bank wrote off, what was it at the end , nearly £900m.
This fella, told me , sciopaths, it is never their fault, lying comes easy, as does blaming others, but their ego will never allow them to accept blame or have real empathy, but most of all, they will have machiavellin longterm plans to get revenge on whover wrongs them.
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Did he know Whyte all along ?
does he know any ot the american investors ?
once delisted, no one will know who the new investors/owners are.
it couldnt be could it ?
speculative punt from me, lets see when it appears in the mainstream somewhere.
Celtic40me @ 6:13 pm,
Brendan Rodgers was asked by Celtic if he was interested in the managers job again after Ange left.
The Executive including CEO Nicholson went out to his holiday home to pitch the role to Brendan
Brendan then met up with Callum McGregor
He then flew to London to have a private meeting at Dermot Desmond’s London home
A lot was thrashed out…
Satisfied with his role and the principal shareholder and Executive’s backing, agreed to take the role.
What Paul67, yourself or others think he should be spending his time on or concentrating on is not key to this is it.
Hail Hail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIB7VSlm_Bo
Friday – was the ebts an advantage when it came to winning trophies ? Murray NO,
Tuesday – do you regret the for every fiver we will spend a tenner ? Murray, Well i soent the money to win trophies didnt I.
feckin liar.
and how does he know so much about the plans, and these are astute businessmen.
look at his big boozy nose,
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“The Money NEVER Came!” Sir David Murray on selling Rangers for £1 and Craig Whyte’s Broken Promises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zgn-3hBlms
For me, the best by far signing, would be getting Daizen on a 4 or 5 year deal
Get it dome please Celtic
Kinglubo
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🗣 Exclusive Interview | Brendan Rodgers previews pre-season!
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Evening all
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SAINT STIVS
Was that Jim Shoite interviewing W C Fields?
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“The Money NEVER Came!” Sir David Murray on selling Rangers for £1 and Craig Whyte’s Broken Promises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zgn-3hBlms
Just logged on and dont have time to read all the posts above to get a flavour of the discussions so decided to copy and pasted into CHATGBT to get a summary of the above posts. Here is CHATGBT take on the discussion so far
CHAGBT
1. Development vs. First-Team Management
A central debate emerges between posters like Chairbhoy and celtic40me over whether Brendan Rodgers is responsible for developing young players or just managing the first team.
Chairbhoy argues Rodgers’ job is improving top-level first-team players, not “turning prospects into stars.”
celtic40me counters that player development is inherently part of the Celtic manager’s job, citing Rodgers’ own words.
The Nic Kuhn example is used: Rodgers picked him because of his development pedigree, not as a raw project.
💰 2. Transfer Policy & Squad Building
There’s criticism of Celtic’s 2023 “project signing” strategy, where many development players were bought while senior players left.
Chairbhoy argues this left the team understrength in the League Cup and Champions League.
Some, like BackToBasics, point out that value on the pitch matters more than just resale value.
KINGLUBO praises the idea of locking in Daizen Maeda on a long-term deal as Celtic’s best potential move.
📊 3. Club Finances and Board Criticism
Saint Stivs defends the board’s “risk-averse” approach, arguing that having money (e.g. £80m in cash reserves) provides stability and long-term planning ability, even if not all of it is spent immediately.
He mocks the idea that “not spending is the same as having no money” and highlights the value of strategic investments like training infrastructure.
Others imply the board lacks football vision and is too financially conservative, overly reliant on “project players” to turn profit.
👋 4. Oh Hyeon-gyu’s Exit
Discussion on Oh’s departure reveals sympathy for the player’s stalled career and desire to regain his national team spot.
Some view him as a “Moneyball casualty”; others (like borgo67) say they’ve “never lost sleep” over his exit.
🏗️ 5. Pathway Planning and Rodgers’ Autonomy
Debate arises around the new Fulham signing who referenced Rodgers’ “clear pathway” for him. Some posters interpret this as support for the idea that Rodgers is involved in shaping player development, not just coaching first-team regulars.
Chairbhoy reasserts that while Rodgers may approve players, he’s not responsible for youth-level development systems—that’s for the wider coaching structure.
⚖️ 6. Criticism of Media & Fan Reactions
Saint Stivs and others criticise the hysterical tone of some online Celtic content creators (e.g. Trinity Tims), accusing them of overreacting and fuelling constant dissatisfaction.
He defends Celtic’s infrastructure planning, financial approach, and commercial decisions, arguing that caution brings sustainability.
🧩 7. Legacy, Media & Rangers History
Speculative posts reflect on Sir David Murray’s recent public statements, questioning the motives and long-term legacy of Rangers’ former owner.
Saint Stivs implies there may be Machiavellian motives behind Murray’s reflections and wonders about connections to current American investors.
Minty
Billy Liar and Walter Mitty rolled into one. Thieving, lying hun canute.
quantum on 1st July 2025 7:01 pm
Just logged on and dont have time to read all the posts above to get a flavour of the discussions so decided to copy and pasted into CHATGBT to get a summary of the above posts. Here is CHATGBT take on the discussion so far
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that summary was actually interesting, what i am watching for tongiht/tomorrow, is will the robot blogger sites generate any of these topics as articles, notably why murray why now ?
and then will the real bloggers argue about any of the points.
And that’s me in a good mood.
‘Well upon my soul, an EBT’
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bigrailroadblues on 1st July 2025 7:07 pm
And that’s me in a good mood.
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I have loads of Murray stories from the Mimtec/IBM days, told them on here back in the day, but in the AI/Chatgtp environment now, every story gets reported somewhere, tell you if I ever see you again.
CHAIRBHOY on 1ST JULY 2025 6:30 PM
“What Paul67, yourself or others think he should be spending his time on or concentrating on is not key to this is it.”
It’s key to the argument, which is something you struggle with, I know. Our idea of what the Celtic job is about – a critical viewpoint isnt to be tolerated.
None of us know what was agreed in the meeting, what Brendan started out by saying about his role was what I expect from a Celtic manager:
“It’s pretty simple in terms of how it works. Ultimately, I will develop and coach the players the club provide me. And then the process of the club providing me players is that we have a great network of scouts headed up my Mark (Lawwell) who has done a fantastic job working within the model of the club which allows the club to be sustainable and successful at the same time.
“They have a pipeline of players there that all fit in and it’s picking the profile that fits us best and of course I have a role in that. But they do a lot of the great work, watch players over numbers of months so that they have various players in each position. So whenever we do lose one there is a replacement to come in, like you see with Gustaf (Lagerbielke). But it’s not always straightforward, it always takes time. Ultimately I will coach and develop the players I’m provided.”
That was the job. You seem very sure about the specific details of the role as it is now. Was that what was agreed at the start?
When did things change?
Stivs
Look forward to that Higgie. 👍
CHAIRBHOY on 1ST JULY 2025 6:20 PM
If Brendan has deviated from the pre existing development model then the failures are hus as well as the successes no?
Kuhn didnt fit into your description of Brendan’s development model. You said at the time he would be no more than a squad player, so I don’t think you can claim him as a success for the new model. That wouldnt be very “fair” would it
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01 Jul 2025, 5:15 pm
Celtic Football Club is delighted to announce latest group of youngsters to have signed their first professional contracts, with seven players signing deals.
With the 2025/26 season on the horizon, Hassan Dembele, Nathan Meechan, Joseph Haney, Rocco Di Giacomo, Emmanuel Obidiwe, Lucas Clearie and Kayden Daly have all put pen to paper and signed professional terms with the club.
For any young player at Celtic, they only need to look at the men’s first team for inspiration to see players like captain, Callum McGregor, James Forrest, Kieran Tierney, Anthony Ralston, Stephen Welsh and Ross Doohan, all of whom have come through the Academy and graduated into the first-team.
Everyone at Celtic Football Club wishes the players all the very best and we look forward to seeing how their careers develop in the coming years with the Hoops.
Scullybhoy
All the best to the young fellas. When you coming over again K?
CHAIRBHOY
It’s also strange that someone admitted to not being able to understand how a development model would benefit Celtic seems to know so much about how it worked a couple of years ago.
Hassan Dembele (another player from the Dembele family)
bigrailroadblues on 1st July 2025 7:25 pm
Scullybhoy
All the best to the young fellas. When you coming over again K?
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How are you and At? I hope (know) you are behaving yourselves.
Maybe I will get over early season, as I am still working part-time and currently on my summer holidays. Will see you in Graces?
That should have been AT.
Adios Greg
Hope it works out for him
Scullybhoy
Prefer the Tolbooth or the Brazen. 😁
Think you are havering Paul.£20 million for Idah,any day of the week.You should know the value of a goalscorer.All the major signings will have gained transfer value.
Boyd raging at Wee Greg.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
bigrailroadblues on 1st July 2025 7:47 pm
Scullybhoy
Prefer the Tolbooth or the Brazen. 😁
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You lead, and I’ll follow for as long as I have An Tearmann to look out for me as before.
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At 18.38 on Tuesday Joseph reported on the Sky Sports website:
Latest from Sky Sports News’ Anthony Joseph:
Legia Warsaw have made an enquiry for Celtic winger Hyun jun Yang.
It’s understood a number of clubs in England and across Europe are monitoring the South Korea international’s situation.
Yang has three years left on his contract at Celtic.
The 23-year-old scored six goals and provided six assists in all competitions last season.
See thems have signed another hatchet man .how many is that to date .rothwell could play without a baw . Our nice wee bhoys won’t like that. Big coady can mix it too .
The squad for the 1969 Cup Final who thrashed the hun. Our greatest ever player J.E. McGrory with Stevie Chalmers and Bobby Lennox who became our greatest post war forwards at that time.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/RCCLAWiNgPZ4ZRvD9