Other Scottish clubs would be better off if Celtic Park and Ibrox didn’t exist


There comes a time during any endeavour when you have to ask, is this worth all the hassle?  News revealed by Phil MacGiollabhain last week and swiftly picked up by the newspapers today that an SFA executive has had his life threatened for what some regard as holding a firm line on application of the game’s rules, are one of these occasions.

This is sport, it is not the struggle against apartheid.  It really, really, isn’t worth putting your life on the line for.

The SFA executive who received the threat has not been named but he will hopefully find a degree of fortitude in the face of such intimidation.  We have called for resignations from the SFA but not under these circumstances.  If the recipient of the threat continues to work as normal they should be commended for their bravery.

It is becoming increasingly difficult to put football back on solid ground but whatever our game looks like in future, it must take on a different face.  Ordinary football fans want their sport back, a sport where honesty and endeavour can be rewarded by success on the field.

That will have consequences for us.  Celtic are far too powerful for any other club in Scotland to genuinely compete.  35 of our 41 clubs figured out they can do without Rangers and 34 of them know they can do without Celtic too.

They should remind Sevco rules are there for a reason and tell Celtic to stop mumbling about finding another league to play in and go do something about it.  I could not be more convinced that every other club in Scotland would be better off if Celtic Park and Ibrox didn’t exist.

Question is, do the rest of the clubs have the balls to do something about it?  Is the ‘Arab Spring in Scottish football’ over, or does it still have another chapter?

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  1. Margaret McGill on

    philvisreturns on 25 July, 2012 at 13:45 said:



    but they did… the biggest transfer of wealth from the peasants to your gut busting slobs in history

  2. Prices for CP in 66/67 around 5 bob I think. I remember the prices for the Racing Club game which was at Hampden started at 10 bob which was double the norm then

  3. South Of Tunis on

    eddieinKirkmichael @ 13 44 .



    Each to their own / all about opinion etc –



    but ———



    You must have watched a very different Riquelme and a very different Paddy McCourt to me.

  4. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Ole Dick unable to limbo dance due to presence of wallet in back pocket..


    Think camel/eye/needle.

  5. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on



    maybe you can share with my why it costs so much then, I cant for the life of me work out why we are paying EPL prices to watch the SPL.


    Greed is the only reason I can see.

  6. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 25 July, 2012 at 13:48:


    Maybe Gordon can tell us how much it cost to get into Celtic park season 66-67 and we can work out the proportion of a mans wage spent on going to support.



    I think the answer would be deceptive as the average Celtic supporter’s wage in 66/67 would have been far less than the average wage in 66/67. I would suspect that this has balanced out a bit in the past 45 years.

  7. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    American’s £1.5M offer for Buddies



    Alison McConnell


    Football Writer


    Chicago based sports firm Club Sports 9 who had an interest in buying Rangers are believed to have launched a surprise £1.5million bid for St Mirren.



    The Paisley club had been expected to pass into the control of community group, 10,000 Hours, who had hoped to agree a deal which would take the club into fan ownership.



    However the financial crisis triggered by Rangers’ meltdown has hindered that.



    Good bye St. Mirren ?



    Hail Hail

  8. philvisreturns on

    RobertTressell – They get a decent living wage and if a sitting MP loses their seat in an election they should be entitled to full salary for a period of 2 years or until they find a job. They get checked for any outstanding debts that unscrupulous people could offer to pay off. They get money back on travel when they produce a receipt. They pay for their own lunches like the rest of us. If they need to be in London and don’t live there they get one room in a custom made building where they all stay.



    I’d prefer: don’t pay them a penny except legitimate travel costs.



    Also, put them up in a Travelodge. Cheaper than a purpose built facility.



    They suspend membership of any secret organisation.






    They get the same pay rise as public sector workers and the same pension conditions.



    No pay or pension, they should expect to hold down a real job, politics should be part-time public service with no expectation of financial reward.



    They are banned for life from taking working as company directors or consultants or lobbyists.



    So, if they wanted to start a company making cakes, they’d be banned?



    Anyone receiving any other income other than their MP’s salary should be banned (and I include rental on houses owned, large sums of interest on savings, stipends, inheritances, remittances etc etc etc) so as not to make it a rich boys club. In fact I’d have a quota on public school educated people which reflected the percentage of privately educated people in the country, same for women etc.



    Nope. You’re making things worse. The problem is too many professional politicians, not that we don’t have enough. The problem isn’t too many people from good schools, it’s too many people with no experience (or intention) of working for a living.



    AS soon as they are caught fiddling money, being corrupt, doing the bidding of any particular corporation or business they are sent to jail for 10 years.



    Public flogging, on pay per view, pour encourager les autres. (thumbsup)

  9. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 25 July, 2012 at 13:56 said:



    Given that the only real flexible element of our outgoings is the wage bill, I take it you’re in favour of this being slashed across the board in order to bring the cost of supporting Celtic back wthin the realms of the ‘ordinary’ fan. Are we to assume that the reported 45k season tickets sold were not to ordinary men?



    When I first got mine it was roughly half a months wage. I suspect if I was starting out in the same type of job it would still be more or less equivalent.

  10. See what happens when you log off for a few hours.


    Philvis, I much preferred it when your were calling for a fairer redistribution of the wealth.

  11. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    lookin’ at the images of the ole Sevco protest in George Square,I’m not at all reminded of the fall of the Berlin Wall.

  12. South Of Tunis on

    Average wage in 1967 UK —- @ £ 1380


    Average house price —-£3840


    Gallon of Petrol 1967—– 5 shillings and 2 pence


    MK2 Cortina 1967- £749

  13. Margaret McGill on

    philvisreturns on 25 July, 2012 at 14:06 said:




    would that be a chunk of change?

  14. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on




    surely 1m pound bonuses is the starting point.



    Hail Hail

  15. DBBIA & BMCUW – Shemika sounds like my kind o’ gal.



    I wonder if she by any chance related to Tina Charles who never tired of telling us how much she loved to love. Unfortunately for Tina, however, like excellent CQNer Subterranean, her baby just loved to dance.

  16. canamalar



    I actually agree with you.



    If you compare the price of a cinema ticket for example in 1989 to the price now and then make the same comparison for a ticket to watch a top flight football game in Scotland, the disparity is stark and quite shocking.



    All I know is that what we pay for is evident in stadium improvements, transfer costs and player salaries.



    If we hadn’t bought tickets there would have been no Larsson, Sutton and no Seville. We got what we paid for.



    Anyway I have no wish to fall out and the missus has just said that this type of longish post is the type she scrolls by when reading CQN.



    As punishment I’m now being dragged to the Fort :-)

  17. Dick Byrne on 25 July, 2012 at 14:02 said:


    embramike – The correct collective noun for a group of CQNers is a “clique”.




    or a “cluck” going by some of their posts

  18. Margaret McGill on

    Dick Byrne on 25 July, 2012 at 14:02 said:



    More of a dissimulation I would say

  19. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    South Of Tunis on 25 July, 2012 at 14:07:



    Only the Cortina has decreased in price.

  20. LENNYisAwarMACHINE on

    eddieinkirkmichael – I was born n brought up there. live down south now, but all my family are still in or around the place. lived through the wall from one of the biggest rangers supporting families in the scheme (of which there are many) for years. was always good banter during games. the ajoining wall took a hammering! lol



    Every one knows my old man. bin man. looks like Wee Gordon Strachan.



    Small world.

  21. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on



    You are very short sighted in your view, why do you insist we have to cut costs, there are many way to bring in more than simply fleece the support.

  22. philvisreturns on 25 July, 2012 at 14:08 said:



    Don’t think your capitalist inducements can buy me (however if you were to make that a swizzel lolly, I’d be sorely tested).

  23. Seemingly



    Only I can prevent Forest Fires…



    Now, if only I could start them, the world would be a safer place. But preventing them? That’s a big ask surely?




  24. Celtic_First on

    Don’t forget when comparing admission prices that in the good old days, one paying adult could gain admission for an entire family, often not even his own family.

  25. Sixteen roads to Golgotha on

    philvisreturns on 25 July, 2012 at 14:08 said:



    I take it that you are on benefits yerself mate?

  26. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 25 July, 2012 at 14:08 said:



    OK. That’s £20 off the cost of my ticket. It’s not much but it helps. Where’s the rest of the price drop coming from?



    I’m not arguing against cheaper tickets, but I’d realistically expect a much lower quality on the park.

  27. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on



    I noticed you put Henke in there, I dont think we broke the bank getting him in.


    Enjoy quality time with the missis :o)


    hail hail

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