This time last year we were glowing at the dramatic win at Fir Park, which saw Luis Palma and Matt O’Riley score either side of a Motherwell goal in added time. Luis scored two of our five Champions League goals last season and by Christmas looked like a successful summer buy.
Form dropped off across the team during the winter months and Luis was one of the casualties. He played only once after pickign up an injury in March, which coincided with an uptick in results.
Last night’s hattrick in a friendly at Sligo Rovers would not have meant as much to him as giving Celtic the lead against Atletico Madrid or Feyenoord last year, but he needed to lay down a marker like that.
Brendan likes to sub wingers during the game, which means at least three and often four from Maeda, Kuhn, Yang, Forrest and Palma will play. He will have chances to stake his case before the end of the season.
89 Comments- Pages:
- 1
- 2
- 3
- »
in like flynn
F5, F5, F5, F5
Not quite Friday yet but I see it on the horizon!
Beaten!
SAINT STIVS on 10TH OCTOBER 2024 11:59 AM
in like flynn
—————
😳👏👏👏👏👏😂
Aipple, you need some new performance enhancing substances! 😳😂
I have already raised a complaint MELVIN UDALL.
Off to walk the dog and plot revenge on the clearly doped SAINT STIVS.
Getting in a post at 11.59 on the new midday article and winning only a silver demonstrates how tough it is at the very top in this competition.
Brendan likes to sub wingers during the game
—
i know this may sound pedantic but it really isnt – but Palma is not a winger – he just happens to get played out wide.
that makes a big difference to what should be expected of him.
he isnt the tricky winger type who can sprint by the full back or use a sleight of foot to get to the bye line.
his attributes are different from that – like doing a sneaky into the back post to score!
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Palma do an Abada and move Stateside after Christmas. If he’s gonna make a claim, he’s got precious little time left in which to do it.
ref my favourite topic, real time attendances at football matches.
———————–
I dunno what louis is, i do know he is not a winger
I have no inside info on how well the SPFL TV deal was negotiated. More importantly, I have no idea if there were other TV companies willing to bid higher than the deal obtained. So I am reluctant to make any dogmatic statement on the matter.
But I can read what has been said and I cannot help thinking that there is no dispute between these two facts:-
1) This is a rotten deal for Scottish football.
2) This is the best deal we could have got at the time.
All over Europe there are peripheral leagues with rotten TV deals and big leagues with overblown TV payments. And the guys making those deals will say they pay the big leagues the bigger money because there is a market to watch them.
EPL games are watched heavily in England
EPL games draw an audience and an interest around the world.
EPL games are watched by a significant portion of Scots & Irish folk, even to the detriment of their own leagues.
La Liga games will sell because they have several world class teams and a division full of competent footballers even in their relegated teams.
In the past Serie A drew large audiences in the UK and strip sales were even fashionable for a while. My own 3 sons had replica strips for Juve, AC & Inter when they were young. They wore them proudly on leaving Bologna Train Station once and instead of being met with admiration, the local Bologna boys just got busy debating which of them they would beat up first. ( They have grown out of this juvenilia now and the replica strips were cheap rip-offs from The Forge, it should be added).
Most of us on here, are fans of Scottish football. Not particularly happy fans or customers but still we are thirled to our obsession. Many of us don’t watch a lot of EPL football but we should know that a lot of our neighbours do. We may deride the quality of a Southampton vs Notts Forrest encounter but we know it’s 25 times superior to watching St. Johnstone vs Livingston. Those of us who are fans of American football will know that a live match between Jacksonville Jaguars and Las Vegas Raiders will draw a huge live audience in London, Munich, Rome, Glasgow or Dublin and will get a respectable TV audience whether we are interested in the product or not. Good marketing can help a failing TV spectacle. Just look at the audience boost Darts, Snooker and Boxing have created after a period in the doldrums.
Scottish football can get a better TV deal with better marketing. It could get a better deal if fans here were willing to boycott foreign leagues and sports on TV and the companies who promote them at our expense and with our audience subsidy. We contribute to the EPL TV deal riches and subsidise it while accepting a pittance from a TV station willing to use it as a filler show. But in the absence of an unlikely boycott movement- no pro-Scotland political party has ever shown an interest in football beyond the National Team on TV and , even there, we have the next 2 fixtures moving away from mainstream TV.
So, there are no easy solutions here and no low lying fruit to be picked by people criticising Neil Doncaster (who, to be fair, is responsible for far worse actions than our TV deal).
Celtic got to refuse Viably because it is a home game and in our control. For once, they deserve credit for doing so. But, if it had been a Pittodrie fixture or an away fixture at any other SPFL ground bar, perhaps, Ibrox, we would have been shifted to 5.30, 6.30 or even midnight for the sake of that free £75k.
And our way support will be inconvenienced again with early kick offs n the Highlands and late kick offs in cities that will see early rises and/or late returns to our home. Celtic can afford to turn it down- the other clubs can’t.
And, as for, the just lower the prices and fill the stadiums solution- have any of you ever heard of the experience of John Boyle at Motherwell who tried precisely your approach and led Motherwell into administration twice?
Palma has a lot of skills and we’d be foolish to let him go cheaply.
He needs careful management but he’s shown he can produce at Champions League level but he might not be a starter just yet with Kühn’s early season form and Daizen’s work rate. He should still be able to edge out Jamesie and Yang if he shows just a little more application.
He’s a good footballer- no doubt.
And our way support will be inconvenienced again with early kick offs n the Highlands and late kick offs in cities that will see early rises and/or late returns to our home. Celtic can afford to turn it down- the other clubs can’t.
—
im not sure i can agree with the word ‘inconvenienced’ – we get so very few tickets that there would be more than enough fans to take the tickets who wouldnt feel the least bit inconvenienced if they were offered a ticket. we could fill our away allocation many times over with fans who wouldnt feel inconvenienced.
if anyone with a ticket for an away game does feel inconvenienced then maybe they should think about that.
though from what i can see they all look pretty convenienced!!
And, as for, the just lower the prices and fill the stadiums solution- have any of you ever heard of the experience of John Boyle at Motherwell who tried precisely your approach and led Motherwell into administration twice?
—
yip,
even though the games are over-priced, im not sure lowering them would have a dramatic affect on attendences
AIPPLE on 10TH OCTOBER 2024 12:03 PM
I have already raised a complaint MELVIN UDALL.
—————
😂👍
Saint Stics at 11.59 –
In like Flynn
Aipple- how do you like them aipples?
Marco Tilio has a lot of skills and we’re unlikely to see him ever return to become a Celtic first teamer imo.
Just watched the Socceroos beat China 3-1. McGree came on as sub; not half the player Luke McCowan is.
Hibernian’s RB Miller scored a pretty strong header, ran all night and dived more often than Greg Louganis.
for those who feel inconvenienced
😄
you all know i hate unoccupied seats at supposed “soold out” games, but when it comes to other teams not giving us the old big allocations well its their ball so to speak.
with record attendnaces and 25 clubs with increased averages, some to a point where they are have seat sub exchanges then kick off times for them dont seem to matter (well apart from the rangers)/
one of the justifications was that clubs felt they had increased their chances of a performance against the glasgow clubs by having bigger home supports.
patently not the case as we pump aberdeen and rangers, and they pimp hearts .
i am intrigued by a few occasions this season, in particular a sold out pittodrie, but a thousand empty seats, i didnt see that on tv.
and the continuing smaller actual attendnaces at ibrox, where it really was a waste of money adding those 600 seats.
picture evidence there was never 45,000 at the saint johnstone game. their blogs saying lucky if there was 30,000.
add on around 40,000 at their europa game, less than 30,000 at league cup game, and supposedly struggling to sell the semi final even.
we live in interesting time,
well this statto anorak does.
Read all about it – ‘Show pony scores hatrick at The Show Ground’.
Very best of luck to the boy, but he’ll need to do more than score against a League of Ireland team in a friendly to change the manager’s view of him.
Let’s all do the Huddle
I think that’s 2 separate points.
Some Celts are lucky to get away tickets and it does not seem as though we have a fair allocation of these tickets by our club.
Our (lucky ticket) away support will attend whether it’s an early kick off or a late one but…….. they would prefer a 2pm or 3pm kick off that allows them an extra hour or so’s sleep and allows them a chance of getting to bed before midnight.
The same preference is expressed by Celtic fans who travel to CP from Ireland, England, Aberdeen and Dumfries- early and late kick offs inconvenience them and, other Scottish clubs who are more desperate for money will sell that kick off time readily for £75k as their support is more localised than ours.
Aipple – it’s tough at the top.
Let the haters hate, my friend.
My Supreme Court challenge is in draft over your strategic advantage on we CST’ers.
Ok – international week and I’m bored!
Fred Colon and TEXASTIM
If you could both direct all future comments to my legal team that would be great.
Highlights from last night
Don’t watch if you’re related to Scott Bain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jstQeRYK7Y
If Palma starts another game for us, I will be amazed
STFB – I watched the goals last night.
Bain had a howler – unreal how bad he was at both goals.
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 10TH OCTOBER 2024 12:14 PM
Celtic were made aware of the process that lead to the deal and agreed to it
Celtic voted in favor of the deal
Maybe Doncaster mislead Celtic about the process that lead to the deal but I doubt it, and if he did I doubt they wouldn’t have been able to see through the deceit. Maybe someone else could have got the “much better” deal that’s being talked about but I’d imagine Celtic have a better idea of the value of our media rights than anyone else and we voted in favor of the deal
We need to be careful that we aren’t permanently at odds with the authorities, it’s not a healthy way of doing things. Doncaster might have made some mistakes in the past but he’s here now and he’s generally friendly towards us.
Paul67 10 October 2024 12.05pm
“new article posted”
”Palma laying down a marker’
Saint Stivs “In like flynn” 11.59am
Aipple – 11.59am
Mervin Udall – 12.02pm
Aipple – 12.03pm
Time Travellers?…..Or Fellow Travellers?
It’s your call
Pash log ins
Congrats ST. Stivs,
Break the Aipple monopoly:))) I gave up a long time ago trying to get in before Aipple. Time works a wee bit slower here in Alabama:))) Enjoyed the second half last night. it’s tough to be a winger or play on the wing at Celtic. When our greatest ever player is Jinky, that is a lofty standard to get anywhere near and no one ever does. My hero was always Paul McStay as I was a young center mid, but that changed when I went to celtic and they played me on the right wing. I remember being asked by someone at the Celtic View who I thought was the best winger in Scotland at the time, and I said Mark Walters. We had wee Joe Miller at the time and a very good Celtic man in Owen Archdeacon, who played in many Vital Celtic games than most can remember. I got dogs abuse from folks about my choice of Mark Walters, except from Big Paul Elliott at the time who said that was a good choice. Funny story, I once left Big Paul on the the stage at the Bellshill Celtic supporters do to sing For its a grand old team, as I was a young player and always got nervous at those dances. He found me on Monday morning and gave me a wee bit of stick.
I like Palma, he can be lazy at times, but then when you are being compared to the workrate of Daizen then even Scrooge could have been call a skiving bassa. I liked the look of young McCardle when he came on last night. A wee bit of gallusness about him. Aipple, this is Happy Friday for me as we are off school for fall break for the next 5 days. Praying for all our Celtic pals in Florida as well as those not lucky enough yet to be converted.
Hail Hail my friends.
Sean
Can someone tell me why we are even discussing this deal. Chairbhoy already told us all that Doncaster did not do the appropriate diligence and market testing. He knows you know. Way more than any paid professionals or advisers.
Scottish football is disfunctional enough, a game that’s at war with itself helps no one. As long as we feel that the administrators are working in the best interests of the game and Celtic then we need our support.
The EPL are really struggling with what the fight with Man City could do to their previous brand as the best league in the world. City, like the Huns in Scotland are prepared to do whatever it takes to undermine the EPL, challenge their power over the clubs so they can ignore the regulations and carry on cheating. The rest of the clubs are onboard with the EPL, they’re sticking to the financial regs and accepting punishments when they breach them. Because they understand that for the EPL to continue to be successful they need a strong governing body which has the support of its members
It’s the same story in Scotland on a smaller scale. Support those who want what’s best for Celtic and the Scottish game, not seek to undermine them.
Just my opinion based on nothing, but I think there might have been a bigger picture and some other agendas at play at the time as well
Sevco were going all out to remove Doncaster and put a sympathetic Hun in his place, which could have been disastrous for Scottish football and very difficult for Celtic.
I think we might have taken a decision to back him because otherwise we’d be looking at a very messy power struggle.
Guessing though
I like Palma, I’ve always thought he’s a good footballer who can be effective against decent opposition he does seem to be struggling to fit into Brendan’s Celtic.
He’s making all the right noises, asking to be let off international duty to concentrate on Celtic and working harder on the defensive side of his game instead of chucking it and talking about moving in the next transfer window so there’s hope he can stay and still make a difference.
FAVOURITEUNCLE : email to Paul67 is coming back undeliverable. Can you try?
celtic40me
Not all EPL clubs are on board. Three of them, Newcastle, Chelsea and Everton all gave evidence in support of Manchester City’s action against the EPL’s APT rules at the recent hearing.
Newcastle, for whom the APT rules were directed at in the first place, Chelsea who sought a way round them by selling their own hotel in house so to speak, to an associated company, and Everton for reasons which are less clear, but likely to be related to its’ own complicated ownership by various parties.
Sargassosea on 10th October 2024 2:19 pm
OK SENT IN ANOTHER REQUEST FOR U TO GET IT.
Anyone readind got pauls no can you phone him and ask him to give my email no to SARGASSOSEA please.
celticquicknews@gmail.com;