Patrick Roberts and getting the band back together

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Patrick Roberts will finally be free of his well-compensated Manchester City contract next month.  The player made one appearance for his parent club in the seven years since joining from Fulham.  His two and a half years at Celtic between 2016 and 2018 remain his most celebrated, at the club where he has made more than twice as many appearances than any other.

It is hard to imagine, but four years ago, Patrick was the as Jota is today in almost every respect.  Having lit up our campaign from the wing, we all hoped to secure him on a permanent deal.  Patrick wanted to come too, but Pep Guardiola stopped a proposed £10m deal from proceeding.  I am sure he would walk from Sunderland to Celtic Park, if an offer was made.

What I know for sure is that we cannot base player assessments on what happened four years ago.  If we did, Patrick would be joined by Filip Benkovic at Lennoxtown.  The latter has made only 13 starts since leaving Celtic three years ago and none for Udinese, his current employer.

Last night, as I watched Patrick score the goal that took Sunderland to a Wembley play-off final and the chance of promotion to the EFP Championship, you could have tempted me to want him back.  He had an ability to create space in the most packed defences, something Celtic face more often than most teams.  He was built for Celtic Park.

Getting the band back together is fraught with difficulties.  Few return as effective as they were when they left.  Patrick needs to join (or stay with) a team operating at the top end of whatever league he plays in, one that spends most of their time attacking tight defensive formations.  Out of contract, he will be a bargain for someone.  Celtic have made far worse punts.

 

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  1. Drambowiecelt on

    @Ernie.. Yes a gentleman with his posts ….as you say .Very much missed.

     

    Did not realise it was 2 year tho?/?? Jeez ….

  2. Drambowiecelt on

    “”Big Mark”” got a result i see tonight..lol… Kev j mibee you were right all along.

  3. Reading back — number of interesting comments.

     

    The number of thin skinned people who find a fault in any comment …

     

    Selective engagement with sharp comment / moonhowling / chumpish sniderism.

     

     

    Then there was the talk of empires — the Flanders Empire was news to me.

     

    My understanding of Benelux history must be all double Dutch.

     

     

    One comment about empires and the birth of capitalism / the industrial revolution.

     

    In keeping with our location off the west coast of Europe — we have a very maritime perspective and consequently fail to understand the land based empires of central and eastern Europe.

     

     

    Then we have spices vs sugar vs furs as the driver of European expansionism from 1400 onwards.

     

     

    And once we get into talk about empires there are too many Bronskis in the discussion and no comment seems to have been made about Japan and their age of empire from 1905 to 1945. All the usual ingredients were in the mix specifically in the 1920’s going forward when rampant nationalism / military fetishism was the order of the day as a limited democracy was side-lined and territorial expansionism was the future.

     

     

    Seemingly any comment about this time and the pain it inflicted on its neighbours is not now the done thing as we have a number of Japanese players on the staff and so any comment — about a time they had nothing to do with — is now frowned upon by the happy clappers / PL acolytes as being somewhat beyond the pale.

     

     

    Hypocrisy is a terrible word but it best describes the comments of far too many.

     

    Some empires are bad / some empires are far away.

     

    Consistency is secondary to selective repugnance.

     

     

    Tenko is now something unmentionable.

     

    Yet we can sing about the Garryowen fascist.

     

    Strange world.

  4. fairhill bhoy on

    I have renewed my tickets today.So can someone please let know AIPPLE his seats are guaranteed.

     

    Maddy being Maddy 🤦‍♂️

  5. AT at 9.30pm

     

     

    The Villa guy had obviously never been in Birmingham, Aston or ever kicked a round ball.

     

     

    The slightly more relevant Liverpool supporting bar staff enjoyed my live trolling

  6. CONEYBHOY on 11TH MAY 2022 12:00 AM

     

    AT at 9.30pm

     

     

    The Villa guy had obviously never been in Birmingham, Aston or ever kicked a round ball.

     

     

    The slightly more relevant Liverpool supporting bar staff enjoyed my live trolling

     

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    Yaah yaah got were your coming from lol 👍

     

     

     

    HH

  7. Paul 67

     

     

    Your blog is the pish ripped out of it.

     

     

    Is it about the clicks?

     

     

    Casual racism on a Celtic blog

     

     

    Why not block the ip at source?

  8. Madmitch @ 1136pm

     

     

    Nothing personal but usually scroll past the CAPS and acronyms because I’m too lazy to work out who you’re discussing.

     

     

    That must be a record with only one PL in the entire message….so I read it.

     

     

    Anyhoo back to my boy’s football training (the other kind) 🏈

  9. MADMITCH on 10TH MAY 2022 4:14 PM

     

    Darlin by the incomparable Frankie M …

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Sounds like a song for BJ of this parish.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I shouldn’t have …

     

     

     

     

    But I just couldn’t help it.

     

     

     

     

    Bad me.

     

    ……………………

     

    YOU are WRONG yet again.

     

    I have NEVER rated that song, and Frankie Miller himself is on ” Record” as saying that HE ” HATED IT” !

     

     

    Keep trying Chump, maybe one day you will be correct about something….although I doubt it.

  10. JHB on 10TH MAY 2022 5:35 PM

     

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    NO ONE asked you for your opinion.

     

    YOUR opinions are about as welcome as ” MAD BITCH'”s !

     

     

    PLUS….YOU are a LIAR…..I refer you to YOUR Post about ME back in March.

     

    Like ” MAD BITCH”….YOU are a laughing stock amongst many on here…FACT.

  11. DAVID66 on 10TH MAY 2022 9:50 PM

     

    Philbhoy – That’s good your symptoms are easing. Saturday was my worst, I only managed 6 or 7 drinks before Testing and symptoms hit.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Anyway I am about 90% good but still showing 2 red lines on the old LFT.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Belmontbrian – On reading back well said. Think he was referring to wee Rockybhoy Jimmy’s cat, so the fud could not even get the animal correct.

     

     

     

     

    A terrible comment.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Hope the Moderator intervene’s and bans the Fud.

     

     

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    Cheers mate.

     

    Also ” Cheers” and THANKS” to ALL the others on here for their views on ” MAD BITCH’s” despicable Posts.

     

    I can call him a MAD BITCH, cos he likes to talk about DOGS ?

     

    HH Bhoys.

  12. DRAMBOWIECELT on 10TH MAY 2022 9:55 PM

     

    @Big j when you see this….The 2 snider Chris McLure merchants. (that get their digs into you??)

     

     

     

     

    Worst possible input from them……The Answer to Everything goons…

     

     

     

     

    Your posts bring sunshine to this blog big man .Keep em coming..

     

     

     

     

    Playing catch up again…… Hope your well j.

     

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    Thanks mate. Sadly Ive not been too well in recent weeks, but I am trying hard NOT to go into any hospital…for now.

     

    i dont want to miss the CELEBRATIONS when Celtic are Crowned ” CHAMPIONS” once again.

     

    HH my friend.

  13. AN TEARMANN on 11TH MAY 2022 12:34 AM

     

     

    Sadly mein host gave up on this blog a long time ago, so many excellent contributors no longer give input on the blog, the days when 450 CQNrs would meet at events in Celtic park are gone forever, faceless trolls with right-wing unionist agendas dominate CQN every day, who owns these monikers ? all tolerated all validated by mein host

     

     

    Luckily for you big fellow you still get to meet the best of CQN in the real world, catch up with you on Saturday HH

  14. Is the choice tonight between these 14 ?

     

    (+ James Forrest superstar 😜)

     

    Hart

     

    Ralston

     

    Carter-Vickers

     

    Starfelt

     

    Taylor

     

    O’Riley or Rogic

     

    McGregor

     

    Turnbull or Hatate

     

    Jota

     

    Furuhashi or Giakoumakis

     

    Maeda

  15. Enjoy yer title-winning day comrades. You’ve earned it.

     

     

    Oh, and also, stop fighting and start scrolling by.

     

     

    HH

  16. So Big Mark won a game. Pleased for him. Would love it if he pulled off the great escape. I can’t help but think they ditched James McPake too soon though as did Hibs with Jack Ross.

  17. timmy7_noted on

    DeniaBhoy on 11th May 2022 9:26 am

     

     

    Wow thats quite a graphic I’ll be sharing!! I was 3 when we won the big fella so sadly no memories of it, but my Celtic supporting years, apart from the huns cheating 9, have on the whole been pretty good.

  18. Deniabhoy

     

     

    Thanks for sharing that.

     

     

    I have been trying to explain to a few younger folks how great these Celtic times are.

     

     

    The first ration thing for me is that we really blew 3 titles in the first decade this century against the financially doped rangers. We had the upper hand in all 3 and blew it.

     

     

    M’ON Seville season saw is 4-0 up v Motherwell and 6-1 v Dundee and we did not only fail to score on the last half hour at Motherwell we actually stopped trying to. We then lost a goal on the final 2 mins v Dundee when we were playing that one out. Each of those games could have easily seen us in the box seat going to the ‘shoot out’ at rugby park on the last day. Thomo missed pen didn’t help either that day but the team could be excused post Seville. It didn’t need to come to that is my point.

     

     

    The black Sunday …… still traumatised by our complete meltdown on the final stages that season. No Larsson and no belief. The management team and senior players had checked out weeks before the end.

     

     

    WGS was great to take us forward after that shambles but he blew it in his final season also. We were 7 points clear after a ne’erday win at Ibrox and WGS didn’t build on it. Ran down the clock and was beaten to the tape.

     

     

    We could have 55 won legitimately this year and 3 x 9 in a row. The second of those against a cheating financially doped outfit.

     

     

    Great to see this graphic though.

  19. I hope all those at Dundee tonight enjoy the experience just like we did in 81 and 08. Great Celtic nights.

     

     

    I will be watching from my hospital bed trying not to get too over excited. I do have a feeling for Ross Co getting something at Ibrox this evening as well.

  20. I would imagine ange will know the outcome of ccv and jota will they stay or will they go . I only hope if they are going that we are actively scouting out replacements, central defence has been a risky area for us for a while , we need big commanding figures in defence and midfield . With regards to the football writers harmony evening , fair play to the people who walked out and weren’t prepared to listen to misogyny from a clown . Just wondering why the Celtic party didn’t do the same when the racist Japanese stuff was spouted .

  21. Tom McLaughlin on

    I was 13 when Celtic won the big cup. I was an altar boy at St Luke’s Motherwell and first thing in the morning Father (later Cardinal) Winning escorted all the altar boys and a few friends on a coach to the Priest College – St Vincent’s??? – at Langbank.

     

     

    We played a football match against the trainee priests. I think we lost 12-4. The referee was a homer. 😉 We then had a big lunch before getting the coach back to Motherwell.

     

     

    We had lots of Celtic scarves and banners which we hung out the windows and sang Celtic songs all the way back. I remember arriving home about an hour before the 5:30 kick-off.

     

     

    That trip helped the time pass on what would otherwise have been a long and nerve-racking day.

     

     

    I watched the game with my entire family – mum, dad and 4 brothers. Today I am the sole survivor and I think of them at every Celtic triumph.

     

     

    I shall think of them tonight as I travel to Dundee United, hopefully to celebrate with more of the Celtic family.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  22. Wee heads up for anyone heading to Dundee without a ticket for the away end tonight – the Utd store, having cancelled a lot of tickets after reviewing the purchaser details, is now only selling tickets to people registered in their database that have bought a ticket in the current season.

     

     

    Couldn’t get an away ticket for love nor money so am stuck in with the Arabs tonight. At least my bhoy will get to see the match, even if he will have to keep the celebrations low key until the stands empty out.

     

     

    QB

  23. I will never understand the decisions not to sell empty seats to willing customers.

     

    Some more effort on segregation, shuffle your own supporters along.

     

    Free money.

     

     

    Easy to imaging in a 14,223 capacity stadium that there will be 4,000 unoccupied seats.

     

    At £25 each there is 100 grand going amiss.

     

     

    In other businesses the manager would be sacked.

  24. DENIABHOY on 11TH MAY 2022 9:26 AM

     

     

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    A brilliant graphic and other green one will be added at 10pm tonight.

     

     

    The graphic highlights the impact that Jock Stein and Fergus McCann have had on the modern day Celtic. The genius of Stein put an end to the wilderness years, the years that our fathers and grandfathers had to endure. Made us the greatest club in the world, IMHO !

     

    Fergus stopped the rot of the family dynasty, rebuild CP into the stadium it is today and since stopping the RFC10, we have won 17 from 25 titles.

     

     

    Never underestimate the impact a single individual can have on a football club.

  25. Bada @ 8.57am – That will be Cosgrove targeted and his windaes put in.

     

     

    All for telling the truth.

     

     

    D :)

  26. JIMTIM on 11TH MAY 2022 10:05 AM

     

    I would imagine ange will know the outcome of ccv and jota will they stay or will they go . I only hope if they are going that we are actively scouting out replacements,

     

     

    In my years of supporting Celtic I don’t think I have gone into the close season with this much confidence that a- we have players lined up,

     

    b- will sign them and

     

    c- they will be ready to walk into the team..

  27. Racism — you know real stuff in the real world.

     

    Following the Sheku Bayoh inquiry with interest.

     

    Horrible tale that really shows up the limitations of modern Scotland.

     

     

    It was our GF moment before GF was a global cause celebre.

     

    It was just another unfortunate incident where the police walked away.

     

    No shock / outrage at the outcome just silence from the Scottish establishment.

     

    Took a TV programme — one based in London no less — to move things forward.

     

     

    So we have an inquiry — although the terms of reference might come into play.

     

    And then you have the Police canteen culture where loyalty to your own comes before the law in far too many occasions.

     

     

    Plus we have seen with Hillsborough how the police can use the courts to get in the last word about their behaviour even though it has been proven beyond doubt that they were responsible for the tragedy and that they lied to a judge led inquiry.

     

     

    Sheku Bayoh — Hoping some sort of truth will come out but alert to the fact that police loyalties are far too often to themselves and not to the public they are supposed to serve and not the full truth.

  28. Tom McLaughlin on

    Can’t wait for next season to hear 60,000 Celtic supporters chant…

     

     

    There’s only one Mohanad Abdulkadhim Qasim Al Jebur Jeahze

  29. SCULLYBHOY on 11TH MAY 2022 10:35 AM

     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-61315877

     

     

     

    Yep, slavery was bad.

     

     

    But on the bright side, Scotland, and Glasgow in particular, did well out of it and we’re still living off the back of it, or at least the residue of it.

     

     

    There’s no need to beat yourself up about it though. If you feel guilty then just self identify as a victim of oppression. After all it’s what you feel that really matters.

  30. SAINT STIVS on 11TH MAY 2022 10:23 AM

     

    I will never understand the decisions not to sell empty seats to willing customers.

     

     

    Some more effort on segregation, shuffle your own supporters along.

     

     

    Free money.

     

     

    Easy to imaging in a 14,223 capacity stadium that there will be 4,000 unoccupied seats.

     

     

    At £25 each there is 100 grand going amiss.

     

     

    In other businesses the manager would be sacked.

     

     

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    Aye makes you think and it could be 4 times a season 😵😵