Pawns cinch and the proxy war

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The dispute Newco have with the Scottish Professional Football League over their sponsorship deal with car retailer cinch might look a bit ridiculous.  The club are refusing to display SPFL sponsor logos and, apparently, refused to permit their manager to be interviewed by BT Sport unless the broadcaster taped over the logos at Motherwell on Saturday.

It’s an odd hill on which to stand, even after considering that cinch are direct competitors to the Newco chairman’s car retailer business. cinch will continue to advertise and gain market share at the expense of traditional retailers, the chairman is called Park, not Canute.

It makes more sense if you consider Newco want to replace SPFL CEO Neil Doncaster with a more compliant individual, think a 21st century Jim Farry.  If they can beat the SPFL in the courts, they can push for Doncaster’s removal with some authority. For this, any small hill will be sufficient.

This is a proxy war with the governance of our game is the real tide.

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  1. https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/anges-five-way-fight/

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I would think the lovable character that is Dick Campbell is in with a shout. Personally, I would substitute ` lovable character` with `Orange bigot`but there you go.

     

     

    PAUL67 on 27TH APRIL 2022 12:04 PM

     

    new article posted.

     

     

    HOT SMOKED on 27TH APRIL 2022 12:04 PM

     

    WEEBOBBYCOLLINS on 27TH APRIL 2022 9:33 AM

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Thanks for your advice . I have walked and then rested but I had to resort to Co-codamol in the end.

     

     

     

     

    Thanks again.

  2. BIGRAILROADBLUES on 27TH APRIL 2022 10:56 AM

     

    Bon Accord, Tennents or the Laurieston today? Decisions, decisions. 🤔

     

     

     

    Bon Accord for me. Great pub and the owner is a good Tim:-))

  3. Why is there silence from the rest of the SPFL on this issue if it is directly endangering their sponsorship money? If newco were to win, would it not jeopardise every future sponsorhship deal as every club could follow the precedent by saying there was conflict of some sort or another with a local club sponsor.

     

    Who s going to sponsor the SPFL if they cannot be in any way offering a product/service that is a rival to a random chairman’s personal business?

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  5. “!!BADA BING!! on 27TH APRIL 2022 10:58 AM

     

    https://etims.net/?p=17688

     

    Excellent article”

     

     

    If my memory serves me well ( and of that there is no guarantee !) , most, if not all, of our out-going mangers have spoken well of Desmond and The Board.

     

     

    “DENIABHOY on 27TH APRIL 2022 12:16 PM

     

    Why is there silence from the rest of the SPFL on this issue…”

     

     

    Because it is `Rangers ` ?

  6. Weebobbycollins on

    Hot Smoked…I met Dick Campbell at Firhill some years ago. I found him to be anything but a loveable character. The media ‘love’ him and he certainly believes the hype. A bigot, as was Jimmy Calderwood, another ‘character’ loved by the media.

  7. On the Sevco fan sites, they are very confident that they have the SPFL and SFA over a barrel on these issues. They reckon that the Cinch deal was done without due regard to club’s own sponsorship deals and that it is written into the rules that it should have been.

     

     

    Now, their club supporters are a notoriously desperate and gullible lot who are prepared to espouse lies, knowing them to be lies, and yet defend them fervently and with violence.

     

     

    Usually you can detect some fragility and desperation in their arguments re the 5 way agreement, Continuity Myth etc; but they seem cooler and more confident on the cinch issue.

     

     

    Does anyone have the real facts on cinch? Is it a manufactured battle to get rid of Doncaster? Or do they have the SPFL bang to rights and want to present a victory to a fan base that has seen them lose so often in the courts?

  8. WEEBOBBYCOLLINS on 27TH APRIL 2022 12:23 PM

     

    I share your view of the appropriately named Dick.

  9. From Previous Thread…

     

     

    BIG JIMMY on 27TH APRIL 2022 12:39 PM

     

    JHB on 27TH APRIL 2022 11:34 AM

     

     

     

     

    …………………

     

     

     

     

    So says the CHUMP who HATES the Green Brigade, and who also HATES ANY Celtic supporter waving the Irish Tri Colour.

     

     

     

     

    He MUST also HATE Celtic FC for flying the Irish Tri Colour.

     

     

     

     

    He belongs and lives a TORY CULT, and yet suggests that HE is NOT Narrow Minded ?

     

     

     

     

    Again….WHY would ANY So Called Celtic Supporter see it as a ” Bit of Fun” picking a Celtic and SEVCO Select Squad….

     

     

     

     

    HE also called ” THEMS”….” Rangers”….NOT Sevco, Newco, THEMS, Huns nor The Animals in his Post at 11.34 AM…….That FACT alone speaks volumes.

     

     

     

     

    He just couldnt bring himself to call the Huns ANYTHING but ” Rangers” in his Post.

     

     

     

     

    Celtic supporter…My ARSE.

     

     

     

     

    He will be KISSING his LUNDSTRAM Poster on his Bedroom wall….as I type this.

  10. SFTB

     

    I have often thought that there was something not quite right about this `Cinch Affair`. Your final two sentences:

     

     

    ` Is it a manufactured battle to get rid of Doncaster? Or do they have the SPFL bang to rights and want to present a victory to a fan base that has seen them lose so often in the courts?`

     

     

    offer credible possibilities for Sevco`s actions on this matter.

     

     

     

    PS

     

    Do I win a prize for mentioning Sevco`s actions and `credible` in the same sentence?

  11. BIG JIMMY on 27TH APRIL 2022 12:44 PM

     

    from the Previous Thread….

     

    TORY MP CAUGHT ( It MIGHT be a Tory Minister ?) watching PORN while in the Commons, by his fellow TORY MP’s….

     

     

     

     

    Wonder what the members of the Tory Cult will say about that on here ?

     

     

     

     

    Probably nothing I suspect….as I am STILL WAITING for the Tory Cult on here to reveal what ever happened to the £350 MILLION POUNDS per week, that Boris and his Brexit Huns PROMISED would go to the NHS If the UK left the EU ?

  12. Andy Patons Mullet on

    Dick Campbell is The Rangers in human form.

     

     

    Regards the Cinch sponsorship and ongoing legal dispute. This is another scorched earth attack to scottish football. The Rangers will only be happy/smug when other clubs are perhaps forced down the admin / liquidation route and treated differently to their original club, to perhaps save a league – if it is a number of them. Then they (der huns) can scream about how they were treated differently because no one likes them and its a Celtic governed authority blah blah blah. The feeling of detest I have for that club grows daily, they are loathsome.

  13. Big Jimmy

     

     

    `Again….WHY would ANY So Called Celtic Supporter see it as a ” Bit of Fun” picking a Celtic and SEVCO Select Squad….`

     

     

    It was from a BBC site article.

     

    FWIW, I think Old Firm FC`s three best players are: Aribo, Kent and Tavernier but as I have never seen a full game involving OFFC, my opinion is not with very much :-)

     

    Also, although those three are decent players, I am not sure if they would oust the Celtic players in those positions.

     

    Anyway, that`s more than enough about the Huns.

  14. HOT SMOKED on 27TH APRIL 2022 12:04 PM

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Thanks for your advice . I have walked and then rested but I had to resort to Co-codamol in the end.

     

    HOT SMOKED…

     

    Go back oot and get 10/12 Pints of Beer doon yer neck mate…….that will take away any pains that you have !

     

    LOL

     

    HH.

  15. Just for the sake of CLARITY…

     

     

    ANY MP or Minister who watches Porn while being PAID Good Public Money to sit in the Commons should be CHASED and Arrested for FRAUD by the Polis.

     

    If you are watching porn while being paid Public Money, you should be prosecuted and SACKED.

     

    The above applies to ANY MP and/or Minister of ANY Party.

  16. BIG JIMMY on 27TH APRIL 2022 12:57 PM

     

     

    Thanks for that advice but I think I will stay with the Co-Codamol :-)))

     

    I hope your health is improving.

     

     

    Cheerio for now.

  17. In the previous Thread ( myself and others on here) have been instructed to ” LIGHTEN UP” by a Poster who takes HIMSELF so seriously on ALL matters….You couldnt make it up !

     

    LOL

     

     

    Speaking for myself over many long years, I have been viewed by many folk that I have met and shared a Beer with, as being a ” Very Light Hearted man”.

     

    I for one do NOT need any Hun Tory Cult member telling ME to ” Lighten Up” …and especially from someone who is so far up his own Arse…..

  18. HOT SMOKED on 27TH APRIL 2022 1:08 PM

     

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    I was being a wee bit ” Light Hearted” my friend ( as I am sure you knew ?)…you do what is best for you mate.

     

    I intend going out on Friday no matter any pain i may be in…I need Beer to dull the pains now and then !

     

    LOL

     

    HH.

  19. Sounds about right. What an awful bunch they are from top to bottom. Every single one of them

  20. GLASSTWOTHIRDSFULL on 27TH APRIL 2022 1:09 PM

     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30646033

     

    Scroll to end.

     

     

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    The issue I have with him saying this is not that it is in any way factual or can be held up under scrutiny under Company law or good governance football law, it’s the fact that he knows he is lying and we know he is lying but no one seems to care apart from some Celtic/Aberdeen/Dundee Utd supporters and the odd journalist or two. What a really sad state of affairs!

  21. Hotsmoked, you can combine paracetamol and co-codamol, that’s a pretty powerful cocktail, I use it when I get sciatic pain. Just don’t get hooked on the co-codamol!

     

     

    The other med that works is Diclofenac, amazing results – but you need a prescription, and it can conflict with some blood pressure meds so not every doctor will prescribe it.

  22. Big Georges Fan Club - Hail, Hail, Wee Oscar on

    MCPHAIL BHOY on 27TH APRIL 2022 1:33 PM

     

    GLASSTWOTHIRDSFULL on 27TH APRIL 2022 1:09 PM

     

     

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30646033

     

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    Indeed McPhail Bhoy. A sheen of half-truthes and blatant lies.

     

     

    He says “…the company is a legal entity in its own right…”. That may well be true. What, then, is the “club” – is it not a legal entity in its own right? Again, that may be true.

     

     

    However – before its liquidation there was no distinct “company” and “club” in the case of the noW sadly demised and much mourned “Rangers” (OK, perhas some of that wasn’t strictly true).

     

     

    His explanation / description of the position works only for the hard-of-thinking and willfully gullible. A big audience.

     

     

    HH

     

    BGFC

  23. Doncaster’s just doing his job. He’s not doing that out of any support for the Huns beyond that, he’s not their friend they aren’t his.

     

     

    Genuinely neutral administrators (which he appears to be) need to be supported, especially in the face of a concerted attack, otherwise we’ll end up with Huns in charge of our game again.

  24. HOT SMOKED on 27TH APRIL 2022 12:54 PM

     

    Big Jimmy

     

     

     

     

     

     

    `Again….WHY would ANY So Called Celtic Supporter see it as a ” Bit of Fun” picking a Celtic and SEVCO Select Squad….`

     

     

     

     

     

     

    It was from a BBC site article.

     

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    I have NO reason to doubt you mate ( About the BBC)…but WHY would any REAL Celtic supporter feel the NEED to Post such a thing in the first place ?

     

    Also, IF I remember correctly this JHB Character did NOT make it known that this ” Bit of Fun” had come from the BBC….He Posted it as if it was HIS own Brainchild ?

     

    For any so called Celtic supporter to think like HIM….only serves to tell me how WARPED his Heid must be !

  25. SFTB – I don’t think anyone has the real facts on Cinch other than sevco and possibly the SPFL, the latter is questionable depending on what sevco have deigned to share in support of their “case”. Those sites you mention have access to the same information as any of us, so their optimism is most probably borne of blind hope and trust in their club’s management (no laughing at the back).

     

     

    Looking at the respective behaviours. For sevco this position is typical when faced with a contract they don’t like, refuse to play ball and tough it out for as long as possible hoping the other side loses the will. They were possibly surprised by Sports Direct’s stamina, and their determination to find a non-Scottish court to hear their case. Wasn’t there also a case pending with a firm who were contracted to carry out building works at ibrox?

     

     

    We know that sevco operate with a degree of self-righteous bullishness, so their actions (in covering up logos etc) should not be deemed to suggest they believe they have a strong case, more likely designed to convince the world (including their fans) that they do.

     

     

    On the SPFL, thus far I can’t take issue with their approach. They’ve quietly continued with all other aspects of the sponsorship deal without fuss or comment, and I’m sure they would have agreed or at least consulted with Cinch on this approach. What are the options available to them for a member who breaches the collective sponsorship deals? Not sure, probably withholding prize monies at the end of the season, so we’ll know more when that crystallises. However the SPFL are faced with the very real possibility, whatever they do to penalise sevco will be met with challenges, negative media briefings and all kinds of hue and cry. How do you solve a problem like sevco?

     

     

    I’m struggling to see a scenario where the other SPFL clubs consider sevco to be right in this matter, and rally behind a motion to oust Doncaster. A lot of those clubs need the sponsorship money far more than sevco, so this move would feel like a form of societal blackmail, “back us or we keep sh**ting in the communal well”.

  26. Had a big wig from the Craig Whyte Ibrox years hiring a bike from me this week. I asked him for a one pound deposit. Not sure he got it.

  27. DENIABHOY on 27TH APRIL 2022 2:35 PM

     

    Had a big wig from the Craig Whyte Ibrox years hiring a bike from me this week. I asked him for a one pound deposit. Not sure he got it.

     

     

    You’ll have lost the bike then , he’ll take it back to crumble dome and tell them he got it from st Etienne …😂😜😜

  28. Some interesting transfer rumours on the go.The Swedish based LB sounds like a belter.I like wee Greg,but if we can do better,all good.Will be needed throughout the season.We will see if any truth in it.There should be at the fee quoted.

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