You all think you’re so smart, smugly laughing at the outcome of a game in a tournament you didn’t even know existed until recently. Let me tell you, yesterday’s defeat of Newco Rangers was nothing short of calamitous for the road I hoped the club would take.
Ally McCoist is crucial to all the things I hope happens to Newco in the years to come. He alone can deliver the hilarity waiting for when his team face full time footballers every week. Who else could spend so much yet produce so little? Who else would have the sheer brass neck to demand such a salary, even if partially deferred, in order to endorse the spivs as suitable recipients of season ticket money? This guy is unique and of immeasurable value.
Yesterday’s defeat fundamentally weakens his position. What now when, in true Rangers tradition, he stands in front of this year’s AGM thanking ‘yous’ for being the cream in his doughnut? Will they still cheer at being patronised like applauding seals completely lacking in self-awareness?
Mark my words, anything which undermines McCoist is unwelcome. A Ramsden’s Cup win would allow him to claim as much credit as he could waddle off with and would have upset no one. They had a party at Ibrox planned, like it was 1975 all over again. The humiliation must be significant.
The way forward for Newco Rangers is to put pressure on their board to release badly needed funds for the manager to spend in the hope of winning promotion from the Championship next season.
A word for Raith Rovers and their chairman Turnbull Hutton. It was a Raith Rovers director who sat across the table from one of the Rangers clubs (I’ve lost track) to judge their failure to dispense their tax and other duties during season 2011-12. McCoist then publicly demanded to know the names of the panel members.
It was Raith’s Starks Park ground which needed 24 hour security after receiving a threat to burn it to the ground following McCoist’s outburst. Turnbull Hutton stood firm and was one of the voices which ensured the rules were applied as they stood.
Seville – The Celtic Movement
“Going into the second leg, it was all in Liverpool’s favour and on paper it was Celtic’s toughest test. That wasn’t to be the case though as Celtic achieved a very comfortable 2-0 at Anfield. Both goals were superb to top a fantastic victory. A low free kick from Alan Thompson and a wonderful strike from John Hartson were the difference in this game. Celtic went through to the semi-final 3-1 on aggregate.”
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Greetings Bamboo.
Hey, Minty said it. Not me. Today’s Herald. Surprised they didn’t edit it.
I am offski.
LG
Disaapointed but not surprised, can see what people mean when they say he probably doesnt fully understand what he’s singing and nor is he a racist but if that was newco or hearts player and they were singing anthony stokes is a refugee then picture what we would be saying on here .
Not sure what celtic should do, part of me says he should go but that gives the media exactly what .
Maybe celtic could start their own anti racism campagin and ask players to get involved. Go round schools etc and teach the kids the wrongs of secterianism/racism.
LG behaviour is what we expect from the bluenose players. Very dissapointing.
Did anyone watch the Prizefighter on Saturday night?
Never again should such a farce be allowed on Television – but then again, the Zombies are never aff it.
The guy from Belfast, Paddy Gallagher (favorite for the tournament), was beat in his first fight & then the guy he was beat by dropped (mysteriously) in the middle of the ring, before getting rushed away in an ambulance & loser gets reinstated to the tournament, instead of one of the other fighters getting a by in the second round. Then, in the final, he gets dropped 3 times in the first round (TKO) & the Ref discounts the 3rd knockdown with the fight eventually being won on a unanimous points decision by 20 year old Jonny Coyle.
A mate of mine fights out of the same gym (Gleann Boxing Club) was telling me the othernight that Gallagher was being heavily backed to win the tournament & with him losing the bookies made millions. I’ve seen some awful decisions in boxing in my day, but that Prizefighter was the most disgraceful (attempted) sporting scandals I have witnessed in the past couple of years.
winning captains
13:42 on 7 April, 2014
UEFA records are re written Lee McCulloch is the only player in world football to have WON runners up medals in both the uefa & ramsdens cups….. Not only that he done it with two different clubs !!!!!!! If you know the history
MIH?
Minty’s Insolvent Hell.
HH!!
winning captains
13:42 on 7 April, 2014
could you put a few sentences together on the leafleting it’s agenda and of course that distributors will be payed and I’ll do a wee bit.
I’d like to nominate !!Bada Bing!! (14:07) for post of the day (so far).
A wee post I put on to TSFM earlier!
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Good Morning.
I have no doubt that few if any in this site have ever heard of Yakima Canutt. Yet, I am also in no doubt whatsoever that every single reader of this site will have seen the aforementioned Canutt in action… without realising either who or what they were watching.
Yakima was not his real name as he was originally christened Enos Edward Canutt having been borne and raised in the Snake River Hills, near Colfax, Washington.
Young Enos came from ranching stock and by the age of 11 he was able to break a wild bronco and by 17, standing at 6ft 3 Inches, he was declared the world’s best Bronco Buster. By 1917 he won the first of several world rodeo titles and had gained his nickname of Yakima ( often shortened to just Yak ) when he was mistakenly described as coming from the town of Yakina Washington.
Canutt’s undoubted and remarkable ability with horses, bulls and any other type of creature took him to Hollywood where he established himself as arguably the greatest stunt man ( certainly the greatest stunt rider ) of all time. It was he who would perfect the technique of jumping between horses on John Ford’s Stagecoach and his expertise in Hollywood was such that he was the go to stuntman for anything to do with horses, fight scenes, motorbikes or just about anything else.
Further, John Wayne has admitted that the Duke’s entire screen ( and indeed real life ) persona is based on Canutt — the loping walk, the long slow drawl, certain movements of the head — are all results of a young Wayne studying “Yak Canutt”. Said Wayne, “I spent weeks studying the way Yakima Canutt walked and talked. He was a real cowhand.”
Over the years, Canutt would double for Wayne several times — he also doubled for Douglas Fairbanks Junior, Clarke Gable,Jack Randall, Gene Autrey, Charlton Heston, Roy Rodgers and many more. On Screen, Yakima Canutt would be The Lone Ranger, Zorro, Juda Ben Hur ( He masterminded the whole chariot race scene with not a single horse being injured ), El Cid and near enough anyone else who fell off or climbed on a horse.
He was an expert at staging fights and had nerves of steel — it was claimed that by the end of his career he had in fact broken every bone in his body!
Yet, as I said at the start of this piece– very few outwith the inner circle of Hollywood will have heard his name– yet he was one of the greatest “make believe” artists of the 20th century.
Hidden from the camera, Canutt developed all sorts of harnesses, rope pulleys, and other devices which allowed him to leap over and from galloping horses — leaving an amazed audience looking on at what seemed an impossible feat.
So — why mention the fantastic Mr Canutt on a Scottish Football blog?
Well, towards the tail end of last week, Barcabhoy revealed the state of the latest set of financials from Murray International Holdings and the latest statement from the official chairman of the company Sir David Murray.
A brief look at the figures shows an annual loss of circa £140 Million and an overall balance sheet deficit of more than half a Billion pounds. Yet, a good number of business days on, any google search for these figures, or comment on these figures or the chairman’s statement result in precisely no returns– nothing– zero!
What does come up are the results from last year where it was reported that MIH lost only £97 Million for the year to June 2012. However, in return for having steered the company to such catastrophic losses, Sir David Murray had somehow justified an increase in pay taking his declared salary for the year up to £819,000.
Clearly, while this seems an extraordinary sum to be paid for overseeing spectacular losses, one has to bear in mind that the figure concerned was actually less than the salary of some 3rd division football managers and of course did not include any benefits paid by way of any tax saving scheme which might be in existence nor salary or dividends from any businesses or enterprises which were sold off to Murray family members and so on.
Now, if we accept Sir David’s statement, the business of MIH is at an end, it has lost over half a billion of the tax payers money and is in no position to meet its pension obligations.
Yet, this is MIH, one of Scotland’s flagship companies of the 90′s and the naughties, the darling of the Scottish Business and Banking community, friend of the press, and the standard bearer of all that is good about Scotland and its business community— no?
Eh– no —- that was what you were meant to believe and indeed that is what many in the world of business, media and football did believe — for almost twenty years!
Except that many people knew that much of the Murray bubble was based on hot air. Constantly increasing self certified property valuations were accepted by Bankers for a prolonged period with no independent checks or risk assessments being made. Not only was this remarkable in itself but basically there seemed to be one rule for Murray businesses and another rule for nearly everyone else when it came to the Bank of Scotland.
The financial journalist and blogger Ian Fraser has long since questioned just how Murray managed to get so much out of HBOS — a question which has apparently vexed the minds of those at Lloyds bank who inherited what has been described as an unbelievable position for a bank to be in with a customer.
Yet the Murray myth persists with the likes of certain well known football journalists proclaiming recently that until the arrival of Craig Whyte the finances of the Murray backed Rangers PLC were in robust health. Yet this is so clearly not the case.
Yes Rangers PLC had a reducing bank debt in the last few years of its existence, but the level of debt overall had not in fact disappeared as by 2005 Murray had ploughed in another £60M of debt owed to MIH by way of underwriting shares and so on.
The Bank of Scotland was bust by April 2008 in real terms and as of that date the writing was on the wall for the MIH business as well as many others. They were never getting renewed facilities at the bank, the were overextended at the bank, they had overstated their asset values to the bank, and were fast running out of room to manoeuvre in the way they had done for over a decade.
Yet no one dare question this reality and in the world of football there was an absolute inability to see behind the world of financial make believe that was being spouted via the nationals which kept proclaiming that Rangers were turning a corner as recently as 2011-2012.
Much has been made of the fact that some say that the Bank forced Murray into the sale to Whyte — though very few ask the question just why the bank forced such a sale. Basically, Rangers lost money year on year with remarkable consistency and on the few occasions a financial director was able to post a profit there were always extraordinary events within the accounts which masked the truth.
The Ibrox financial model had been bust for years although most alarmingly guys like Alastair Johnstone took the view that if all went belly up they could just add some of the debt onto the Murray tab with HBOS and that would sort everything.
Today, we know that was — to be frank — a pile of cobblers and was never going to happen.
Yet the SFA and the SPL — organisations which are meant to have checks and balances which act as a weathervane to provide advance warning of impending financial distress — were equally oblivious to the impending doom and gloom that was inevitably going bring Rangers PLC down and which would rock Scottish Football to the core — mainly because Scottish Football could not foresee what to do in such an event and had no clue how to react for the good of the game.
Perhaps now, in the light of the latest statements in the Murray accounts, the press, the SFA and everyone else will realise that the MIH ball has burst and burst spectacularly. Further, perhaps there should be an examination of what was presented ( and what was not ) to the SFA and others by the Directors of MIH and Rangers PLC in an attempt to cover up the mess both companies had gotten into and how those representations affected the mindset of those who govern the game and their actions subsequent to the administration and liquidation of Rangers PLC.
In many respects, all that was said and all that was represented at the time was pure make believe, and everyone will recall David Murray being chairman, resigning as chairman, returning as chairman — in short jumping from horse to horse like Yakima Canutt in his hey day.
It could be said that Maurray and Canutt were both kings of stunt and masters of make believe.
Yakima Canutt was a real Cowboy.
David Murray is a knight of the realm.
The SFA continue to sit in the cheap seats for the Saturday matinee.
Sherwood to get punted by Spurs at the end of the season
Too bad I’m done having children, because the next one would be named Turnbull …
Paul67,
As I said yesterday, can we no start a petition? Ally must stay!!!
I also said yesterday, I would like to shake Turnbull Hutton’s hand and that he should be sitting in Campbel Ogilvie’s chair. He is the man to take Scottish football forward. Lang may his lum reek.
Big Chips-I thank you,yesterday helped to get rid of a few demons from the 94 LCF v RR
WC
Are you able to post Barcabhoy’s comments. I miss him posting here.
Tree Of Grace 15.40 Windsor.You heard it here first.HH
The last time a manager of the Ibrox club was lauded by Celtic fans (Greig must stay) the manager chucked it within months. I want Fat Salary there for the amount of time Charles Green said he wanted him there. (was it 15 years?) So maybe we should keep the McCoist must stay chants to a minimum.
Leigh Griffiths is nothing more than a stupid young boy. I did plenty of things in my teenage years and early twenties that when I think back I cringe. (I got married in my early twenties) A good old fashioned lecture about his behavior and what is expected of a Celtic player. Talk of sacking him is way over the top. Play young McMullen in his place until he kops himself on.
whitedoghunch
Thinking about printing a two sided A5 flyer. One side will promote the Seville book (thus paying for promotion from that budget). The other side will encourage Celtic fans step away from MSM and to join the ONLINE Celtic conversation and we will list the various sites that may be of interest.
The plan would be to put out flyers before the game and put flyers on parked cars around the ground during the game.
We’d pay £20 per match for this task for around 3 hours work.
Any other questions, let me know…
Has fat salary walked away yet
I cant imagine that yestrdays defeat will have done much for next years season ticket sales at the doomdome
Since sevco have spent around 40 odd million quid to win the 4th division and the third division, how much would they need to win the second division and then the SPL
(millions of millions?)
Once a tim, always a tim!
Once yer deid, yer always deid!
Hugh Keevins, Darrel King, Big fat derek Johnstone, David Murray, Ian Paisley, Graeme Wallace, McGills Buses, Jim Traynor, Super score Board, Sky Sports News, Daily Record, Mark Hately, Richard Gough, White knights, blue Knights, Dave King, Fat Sally, Lord Nelson, Maggie Thatcher, british service men at Ibrox and everyone else at the Doomdome
YOUR BOYS TOOK ONE HELLUVA BEATING !!!!
Ally Must Stay
I’m feckin raging.
Season tickets frozen again.
Bloody sick of getting frost bite on my bum when i put my ticket in my back pocket.
MWD still say Yeah.
I would be prepared to distribute free of charge in the certain enclaves of Paisley that were “Celtic minded”
How bad was the trouble in edinburgh yday ?
And how bad wad the reporting of it ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDQb29yhtZE
see tis link on youtube for Ramsden’s Cup winner- magic. hail hail
winning captains
14:20 on 7 April, 2014
Good idea but you can only promote the Celtic sites that are not closed shops.
Some need a sponsor to gain membership and quite frankly there are some you wouldn’t want to join anyway
mullet and co 2
Good point.LG’s defence is his stupidity. I think that is actually very plausible.
Bit of the Gazza going on with him ( minus wife battering alcoholic behaviours)
Ernie
We have only your word for it you are not one of them.
So why do you hate Scotland so much?
The under 20s game was supposed to be on Celtic Twitter. I thought it was starting at 2pm. Nothing on Twitter, anyone know what’s happening or how the game is going.
corkcelt,
2-0 Celts
Commentary for the game is on the Celtic TV twitter feed
proudbhoy
officially 21 arrests prior to and during the silly billy cup final.
no real trouble afterwards by all accounts according to Police Scotland.
MWD YES
just found the thread, we are 2 up.
Thanks AlbertKidd, just found it. Great stuff.
Moonbeams WD. Rooting for Wee Oscar. Voting ‘YES’ on the 18th of September. Kano’s yer man.
14:44 on 7 April, 2014
‘proudbhoy
officially 21 arrests prior to and during the silly billy cup final.’
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Salmond called a conference yet?
http://t.co/svjVRSjcMX
I wonder what Comical Ally is singing at last night’s ‘celebrations?’
Embarrassment by Madness I reckon…
HH
ST’s frozen again at £398 for me, I’ll take that!
i’m neil lennon (tamrabam)
14:27 on 7 April, 2014
Hahahahahahahaha
Billy Bhoy
I have 3 grown up kids. Eldest born in Germany, two younger were born in England. All 3 would choose to play for Scotland if asked.
I have never coerced them, why should I? I believe in less borders, not more of them but would never tell them what choices to make.
This season ticket price freeze is really good news on two fronts. It is great news for us and it will really put the pressure on the huns. They’re desperate to raise their prices but how will they justify being more expensive than the Champions?
Great move by the club.
roy croppie
14:51 on
7 April, 2014
http://t.co/svjVRSjcMX
I wonder what Comical Ally is singing at last night’s ‘celebrations?’
Embarrassment by Madness I reckon…
You’ll Never Walk Alone?
Or atleast this line “Walk on, walk on……with hope in your heart”