The notion that Newco is the same as Oldco took a bit of a battering yesterday from two employees of Rangers Football Club PLC, Steven Naismith and Steven Whittaker.
Naismith said, “I am extremely proud of the actions we took but I am disappointed and angry that Rangers Football Club no longer exists in its original form.”
“My loyalty is with Rangers, not with Sevco, who I don’t know anything about.
Whittaker got straight to the point, “We owe no loyalty to the new club. There is no history there for us.”
“No longer exists”, “no loyalty to the new club”, “no history there for us”. Ouch.
Sevco chief, Charles Green responded by confirming he had received guidance from the Scottish FA on the transfer of player-employees from one club to a successor club/company. Curiously he didn’t suggest the SFA backed his position that he was entitled to force players to become employees of Sevco, instead confirming only that there was an appeal route open to him:
“The Scottish FA has been considering the issue and has issued a preliminary guidance note on registration issues. That note has made it clear that it is open to the club to challenge the actions of the players.”
Perhaps emboldened by his precedent-making Court of Session challenge to the SFA which passed without censure from the Association, Green threatened to do so again:
“We have no wish to go to court on these matters but the players involved, their agents and clubs who may be pursuing these players should be in no doubt that we will do whatever it takes to protect the club’s interests.”
This is what happens when the SFA declines to pursue a club for raising actions in the civil courts.
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Mort
Green will use the season ticket money received so far to pay the wages, as it is with the oldco and it would be impossible to prove he did once he has funding in place.
Also heard he sounded out the Fighting Fund for cash.
ASonOfDan on 25 June, 2012 at 12:52 said:
What does he do when Peter meets Paul up the Toon and they both realize they’ve been robbed!!
It’ll all come tumbling down!!
I don’t think Green has budgeted for this,I think his plan was a fast buck and out of here asap.Padlocks at the ready.
Paul 67
The total chaos which exists around our south-side neighbours- (whatever their name is) – since 14th February, is too complex for a simple mind like mine to comprehend.. It would be a interesting ,Paul, to have a summary list of all the breaches of rules and reguations they have made under the auspices of F.I.F.A.,E.U.E.F.A., S.F.A.,S.P.L.etc. Such a list could be forwarded to the relevant football authorities to remind them of the chaos this lot have caused.
Players’ wages – I am still waiting to donate the £16.90 i pledged earlier – but no-one has contacted me
Happy birthday Neil Lennon – 41 today – I think!!
Rocpoolbhoy you still slavIng away and looking in here?
HH
And if, you know, your history
It’s enough to make your heart go
Ha ha ha ha …….
HH
RogueLeader on 25 June, 2012 at 12:27 said:
It would be just Charlie’s luck if he had tried to open said bank account with the Nat West :-)
HH
CRC
ASonOfDan on 25 June, 2012 at 12:52 said:
Which player’s monthly salary do you think he will cover with the ST sales? Does he try to keep 1 big player happy or a few lesser ones? What a dilemma for the poor man.
Mathieson must be busing in the orange order again…
Two-thirds of tickets for Olympic football matches at Hampden Park are still unsold, BBC Scotland has learned.
More than 170,000 tickets remain available for the eight Glasgow games.
London 2012 organisers are urgently considering further giveaways on top of the 30,000 that have already been handed to schools and sports clubs.
But Glasgow City Council leader Gordon Matheson said: “I believe Hampden Stadium will be full for the London Olympics football games.”
In exactly one month – on 25 July – the women’s defending Olympic champions, United States, will step into Scotland’s national football stadium to face France.
The men’s European Under-21 champions, Spain, follow them a little over 24 hours later against Japan, during five days of Olympic football in Glasgow.
But Hampden could be more than half empty, with the public being muted in its enthusiasm for the 250,000 available tickets at Hampden.
Organisers had hoped for a significant surge in sales after the Olympic flame’s hugely popular tour of Scotland.
That has so far failed to materialise and London 2012 organisers are now having to re-examine their strategy.
Mr Matheson remains optimistic the stadium will fill up in time for Britain’s major sporting event of the year.
Glasgow has Olympic flags on display ahead of the London 2012 games “I’m going to be part of that audience,” the council leader told BBC Scotland.
“I’m going to be joining the Hampden roar and there will be tens of thousands of fellow Glaswegians and Scots who will be alongside me there too.”
Shieldmuir Celtic
The problem has been that the authorities have let them muddy the waters by not taking appropriate action as and when it came to light.
Is it at all possible for ourselves and other teams to serve notice of our intention to leave the SPL or SFL (whichever is applicable ) and not only form another league system but alongside other teams form another association to run it ?
I just cant see things get any better if the same association is in place. Not just because of the obvious arse of things that the current incumbents are making with respect to the present situation but because if we really are serious about a shake up in the Scottish game, we need new administrators at the helm shaping a fair and transparent future.
I think many on here are sincere about a level playing field being in operation and would be quite comfortable with other teams winning the league/cups etc. on occasion. I really cant see this happening if the status quo is allowed to continue to operate within our association.
The latest wounds are too deep now for anyone to truly believe that the powers that be will not try to service the needs and aspirations of one particular club (or its bastard child as the case may be now) and its new follow followers. These people are proving this on a weekly basis. Im not even going to go over old ground and what went before for the soon to be liquidated club.
Or are situations that autocratic in the view of UEFA that this could not be done at all ?
Surely even UEFA can see how much of a mess the SFA has made of things.
Green believes that he owns the assets of RFC(ia/l). The most valuable asset was the collective value of players on the transfer market (even with the CW clauses). The value has been put at £10M, add that to the advanced income received via Sts and Green would have a pot of approx £20-25M. The £5.5M loan now looks like good value, cobble together a squad of ‘never-weres’ and let them grub around the bottom of the SPL. At this point the Bloo Knights reappear with £20M, Green sells the club, pockets £30M and still has the £5.5M @ 8% to come in. The bloo knights have a share issue, buy better players and start to climb the SPL.
Green has reckoned without the following:
Despite assurances from the MSM and some experts (not one of Neil Patey’s finest moments!), the CVA was coalboxed.
Despite assurances from ‘insiders’ in the SFA/SPL cabal nuco will be lucky to be playing fantasy football next season as the boards of Scotland’s clubs find that supporters actually give a toss about playing in a rigged league.
Despite the cheeky chappie’s threats and posturing, the players have realised that, after wasting half a season of their careers on an ultimately empty gesture, it’s every man fur hissel’! A half decent saloon bar lawyer could drive a coach & horses through Green’s assertion that nuco employs anyone.
The ‘air of expectation’ that haunts the big hoose means that instead of a pro-active response from followers, all Green has been met with is ‘…where’s the money…’, this has lead to the likes of the cardi-huns advising follyers not to buy Sts, Green is now in the position of being under attack from within. Had he, for example, accepted the cardigans £6M, Walty would probably have sh@t a melon!
As toxic as Rangers brand is now, (EBTs, MSM, etc) it’s about to go into meltdown.
Has anybody saw Matheson and Craig Whyte in the same room ?
Travelbhoy
Yes he is exaclty 21 years younger than me
youareonlyasoldasthewomanyoufeel.CSC
” It looks like Rooney has been given the job of trying to mark Pirlo —that should help him lose the weight he so obviously needs to lose . Rooney looks like he lives on beer and chips . Disgraceful for a footballer ”
” They are bringing Carroll on ——– a big statue . Hit him with the ball often enough and eventually it goes in the right direction’
Italian radio commentator – England Italy 24 6 12.
Ineresting that Whittaker said he’s had ONE EMAIL from the club.
Then he says Fat Sally wished him all the best for the future. Waiting for Sally’s denial of this.
Not fair on Rooney!
They never mentioned the pizza’s!!
mmmmm
So howcome the SFA are allowing Sevco5088 to have exactly the same name bar the PLC part?
THE Quakers will be called Darlington 1883 next season, the club has announced.
The club has been forced to find an alternative playing name to Darlington FC by the Football Association (FA) after losing an appeal last week.
ASonOfDan
Green will use the season ticket money received so far to pay the wages
Have you seen this from Phil MacGiollaBhain
“Just how many Season Tickets have FC NewCo managed to shift? I’m hearing that it is only “a three figure number”. Less than ONE THOUSAND?”
1000 x £500 = £500,000 (assuming all paid in one lump sum and not via direct debit).
I wonder how many players wages this will pay, considering that a number were given big pay rises last year (funded by non-payment of PAYE).
Mort
SSN in an interview with exexhun trevor streven outside the exfootball ground in govan….
SSN…what now for rangers, how do rangers pick themselves up?
TS…yes rangers are on the ground and newco…
BINGO!!
We got there in the end…NEWCO!!
rangers are gone, died, no more, cocopops, dodoed, exfootball club, 3rd lanark, Clydebank, Gretna.
I think they are still in the denial stage.
Stupid Hurtin Huns!!
Green states that on pay day, he will throw the money that they have in a bath, and they can fight for it
my money’s on elbows getting his full whack
Mort
Maybe phil is right, I hope so. As I said earlier, it would be hilarious if they failed to pay the wages after all the bluster this weekend.
Alas poor Wayne ——-
” where was the famous , celebrated Rooney ? Nowhere -he never turned up. He did nothing . ”
La Gazzetta Dello Sport
Oh what a cad ole Greeny is…..each day he morphs closer to becoming Terry Thomas…..he’s already been told that his putative court challenge re. players (free agents) is sure to fail…..unless of course he’s in the same lodge as a couple of sympathetic beaks….the way this fandango has gone,you never know.
Regardless,he’s well into the mould of anyone involved with rfc(dead): nasty,violent,blustering blowhards……in need of psychotherapy.
I didn`t think i`d ever find myself symapthetic to the plight of Naismith and Whittaker
However,they have been subjected to outrageous threats and criticism from the hun blogasphere
Two guys who agreed to forego fortunes in wages to allow the club to stay afloat ….whilst the very fans who are now abusing them couldn`t get their act together to save their own club
South Of Tunis on 25 June, 2012 at 13:03 said:
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Aye,and somehow Shrek & his agent managed to blackmail ManUre into gifting him £256,000 per week.
Wonder how much tax he pays on that?
How many pies & grannies will that buy. I don’t care if he supposedly supports Celtic,he’s a minimally talented fat bully.
WokeUpAngry CSC
Shieldmuir Celtic on 25 June, 2012 at 12:55 said:
Paul 67
The total chaos which exists around our south-side neighbours- (whatever their name is) – since 14th February, is too complex for a simple mind like mine to comprehend.. It would be a interesting ,Paul, to have a summary list of all the breaches of rules and reguations they have made under the auspices of F.I.F.A.,E.U.E.F.A., S.F.A.,S.P.L.etc. Such a list could be forwarded to the relevant football authorities to remind them of the chaos this lot have caused.
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2010 Never Again
Good idea.
A list of shame…or a shameful list.
Perhaps someone with the time and the inclination would be so kind
South Of Tunis on 25 June, 2012 at 13:03 said:
One of the worst England teams I have ever seen, I defy anyone to tell me Andy Carroll is better than Gary Hooper!!!
Hooperman kicks Carrolls ass!!
I think this long drawn out saga is the only way- to allow the news of their demise to sink in slowly to these cretinous lumps of flesh-who would probably have started a campaign of thuggery-we are witnessing the ejoocashun of the peeple-long live the truth
traditionalist88 on 25 June, 2012 at 12:17 said:
Poordeadking
Likewise, just trying to find out if this is a goer, Hen1rik posted the following at 00:04 and a poster on RM also alluded to news breaking tomorrow:
‘Lads i will post some tweets and you can draw your own conclusions.
heard a meeting was held in a hotel in renfrew y’day statement to come out on tueday, don’t know what it concerns.
Anyone remember that song Monday Monday? I think we as Celtic fans will rename it Tuesday Tuesday this week ;)
The proverbial baw is indeed burst. Unless I have been lied to, by respected individuals within the establishment,. Its over
Sorry wasn’t meaning to be cryptic. I heard a story re meeting in a renfew hotel. I trust source. He said news to break tuesday’
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miki67 on 25 June, 2012 at 13:24 said:
South Of Tunis on 25 June, 2012 at 13:03 said:
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How many pies & grannies will that buy. I don’t care if he supposedly supports Celtic,he’s a minimally talented fat bully.
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2010 Never Again
Are you suggesting TFPL is a closet Tim?
Blimey mate 400 nicker for Centre Court today…a great deal guv!
Aye right … I can get 400 rankers for that pal!
Whaurs the cricket today?
HH
ST JOHNSTONE are set to push Rangers closer to SPL oblivion today by confirming they will vote against the newco club being granted a place in our top flight next term.
The Perth club’s chairman Steve Brown is expected to release a statement confirming his club will oppose plans that would see Gers admitted to the SPL just weeks after the Ibrox outfit was forced into liquidation.
Paul67
“This is what happens when the SFA declines to pursue a club for raising actions in the civil courts.”
Why have FIFA or UEFA not asked the question of the SFA? Why are they doing SFA about this?
If a heavily conflicted organisation can not perform its duties UEFA/FIFA needs to ask why?
FRASER FORSTER is today expected to make an announcement over his future as Celtic push for a decision over a new deal.
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ASonOfDan on 25 June, 2012 at 13:35 said:
FRASER FORSTER is today expected to make an announcement over his future as Celtic push for a decision over a new deal.
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Did a little birdie tell you that!?