Police being laughed at by grateful media, Jinky medal comes onto the market

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Strathclyde Police seem unprepared to decommission the loose cannon that is providing the regular leaks of largely inaccurate information about Celtic fans to the press.  The country’s largest police force have become a regular source of material and hilarity for our media, perhaps best illustrated by their unattributed comment to the Scotland on Sunday, suggesting they plan to “smash the Irish Republican, Marxist, Green Brigade”.

While the police officially claim “these comments do not reflect the view of the Force” the damage is already done.  The stage is set for an inevitable confrontation by a group of supporters who now believe they are being unfairly picked upon (for being Marxist, good grief, I thought they all shaved and suited-up under Tony, including the men!), and a police force, which employs someone who has told the press they are picking on the Green Brigade and which is asked by the Government to challenge pro-IRA chanting.

All political chanting must stop, of course, but I don’t fancy being an officer on the ground who has to pick up the pieces after a very loose tongue has set a scene for confrontation.

Make no mistake, the police are being laughed at by grateful recipients of their media comments, who cannot believe the utter naivety of the Pitt St operation, I have heard this laughter first hand from more than one journo, but the consequences of such dire behaviour will be severe.

I would like to thank everyone who bid on the ebay auction for the Jimmy Johnstone medal. I’m really pleased to let you know that the medal has been withdrawn from sale. Thanks again and sorry if you had already bid.

We are not short of history at Celtic, but there are very few occasions a unique memento of the Greatest Ever Celt becomes available.  The medal is a 47-year-old slice of Celtic folklore, check it out on ebay.

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  1. ElDiegoBhoy says:

     

    7 December, 2011 at 23:09

     

     

    I think you missed by about more than a few years I reckon 2004…. we need Minx back….I wont say who was not invited but TTTT still wants to scratch your eyes

     

     

    Great to see the old Martin42 back he needs to put up a wee bit of Jazz….

     

     

     

    Martin we always called them huns.. But in the early days the blog was about us enjoying ourselves and slagging each other for a laugh rather than scoring points. Its really great to see you posting.

  2. TTTT,

     

     

    Yes and No.

     

     

    Keeping fine thankfully, and am no where nearer to retiring.

     

     

    Enjoying my life maybe some day I will think it is time to lay down the steak knife and hang up the apron, but not yet.

     

     

    Martin42

  3. Ryan\o/D

     

     

    yeh

     

    there’s a match on Sunday at 1pm v Dunf in the cup

     

    think up at Lnxtown

     

    free to watch, bring a flask – problem is snow forcecast for Saturday, i hear

     

     

    other CH was Lewis Toshney

     

     

    2nd red was for a 2nd yellow, i think

     

    Callum had the ball in the left corner

     

    he whipped in a cross and as he did so, young Mars chap slid in to block, but too late, hence the yellow – i can only assume same chap was already booked, tho i did not see him get booked previously and he looked shocked at the red, but it was defo for a 2nd yellow

     

     

    you’re correct about getin these young Celts into the 1st team – have been sayin so for weeks and when Dylan scored recently v St Mirren, i sat down in my seat realxed and unsurprised, chuffed to bits for him tho i surely was – crackin lad – and with a fire to his game to – who the ..you talkin tae, type of thing…no messin wi the lad

     

     

    happy days

  4. My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Praecepta..@ 23.12

     

     

    You rang, Sir?

     

     

    Jist popped in..

     

     

    Yep..

     

     

    A “Hail Mary Pass”..so named.. usually,refers to the Last throw of the dice..By the Losing Team’s Quarter Back…in the Dying seconds, of a Football Game.

     

     

    Usually, this Pass..is a very LONG THROW.. Thirty to Fifty Yarder.

     

     

    Although,it can be longer.

     

     

    Very Seldom, is it successful..although, Ah have seen it Pay off..

     

     

    And as a Matter of fact…Ah hiv Dubbed..

     

     

    Paddy.. as Celtic’s .. “Hail Mary” Sub.

     

     

    Ah guess that says it awe.

     

     

     

    Kojo

     

    yer pal..who likes ye aloater.

  5. Greenlion2,

     

     

    I read CQN every night, but a lot of the time it is just about scoring points if each other.

     

     

    Occasionally the atmosphere is a little poisonous, sometimes a little humble, sometimes a little jovial, but never ever as great as it was in the early days.

     

     

    Martin42

  6. merseycelt loves Neil Lennon and the Green Brigade but despises the anti irish/catholic bigotry inherent within the organisations who constitute the scottish establishment on

    THE EXILED TIM

     

     

    You’ve taken offence and deliberately misinterpreted me.

     

     

    That’s up to you, pal!

     

     

    You obviously have nothing to learn in life because you already know it all!

     

     

    Yes, and you are correct, I am a hun whose sole motivation is to agitate you and other celtic supporters!

     

     

    Goodnight!

  7. My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. Paul42

     

     

    Hiya.palomine..

     

     

    Nice tae Meet and Greet ye!

     

     

    Howya Doing?

     

     

    It is always a pleasure tae see yer Nomme de Blog..appearing

     

    oan… the.. well. . Blog.

     

     

    Nice Chatting,

     

     

    Kojo

     

    yer pal.. who thinks yer swell.

  8. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    merseycelt…,

     

    sensitive times, is the time to make your demands, ffs, even I know that.

     

     

    Gl2

     

    “But in the early days the blog was about us enjoying ourselves and slagging each other for a laugh rather than scoring points. Its really great to see you posting.”

     

    :o)

  9. martin42 says:

     

    7 December, 2011 at 23:26

     

     

    when you think back to the way it was to now it is frightening but come on Friday and we can get rid of the quiz crap…Paul thinks he owns the blog but we know its is you

  10. tommytwiststommyturns on

    Canamalar – I’m sure there’s plenty on here like myself who are just bored to tears with this Huns responsible for soldiers deaths blah blah blah. It’s already been pointed out to you that the government will spend the billions of taxpayers money how they see fit, so it’s quite crass to keep dragging up the same old accusations against Dignity FC.

     

    We already know what massive hypocrites they are, inviting all these Hun supporting British soldiers to iPox to fill up empty spaces.

     

    We get it! Now gies peace….!

     

     

    Scratcher time, will look back in the morning.

     

    HH

     

    TTTT

  11. Kojo,

     

     

    I think you are confusing me with my 1st son, Paul67.

     

     

    However, that confusion is forgivable, I could not be confused with nyone better.

     

     

    I read your comments every night.

     

     

    I did post to you with regards to your opinion of Hugh Keevin;s behaviour.

     

     

    I wrote back to you,

     

     

    To thine own self be true.

     

     

    I think you are swell too,

  12. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire says:

     

    7 December, 2011 at 23:30

     

     

    Not what I meant.. and I cant be bothered going onto what it was.I will tell you next time I see you…it was a good slagging with mates rather than now

  13. merseycelt loves Neil Lennon and the Green Brigade but despises the anti irish/catholic bigotry inherent within the organisations who constitute the scottish establishment on

    Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire says:

     

    7 December, 2011 at 23:30

     

    merseycelt…,

     

    sensitive times, is the time to make your demands, ffs, even I know that.

     

     

    ——

     

     

    I said I wan’t ignorant. However, I have made no claim about my intelligence. I dont undertand your point!

     

     

    HH

  14. Green Lantern (((((0))))) on

    fan-a-tic.

     

    The poem you refer to may be “I Did Not Die” by Mary Frye.

     

    Even if it isn’t the one that was posted on here, I think you and your friend may find some comfort from it.

     

    All the best.

  15. Br\o/gan R\o/gan Trevin\o/ and H\o/gan on

    Blantyre Kev,

     

     

    Kev, to be clear I am only floating an extension of an idea here. An idea which has been talked about before, spoken about in enthusiastic tones and then left to fester a little—– never rejected or dismissed— simply left in abeyance or so it seems.

     

     

    Further on the point of the price of season tickets, well season tickets are for those who choose to buy them. For some a season ticket is too dear, for others it is affordable at some sacrifice, and for still others it is an expense that is simply an essential and accepted part of an annual budget.

     

     

    However there are only so many season tickets to go around, and there appear to be far more fans than there are season tickets and so any membership scheme would stretch far beyond the list of season ticket holders that exist at present.

     

     

    Shareholders? Well they subscribed to a share of ownership of a company which by definition of its very existence has a limited number of shares. Do we think that each and every Celtic fan owns a set of shares? Well the answer is that they do not, and so it follows that the number of Celtic fans in existence must be greater than the number of shareholders– so any membership scheme goes beyond the number of shareholders and the number of season ticket holders.

     

     

    Now, as for the reality check of people not wanting to part with £52 per year. How many Season ticket Holders previously paid £1 each week for a paradise windfall ticket? How many now pay the £2 that is asked for? How many people subscribe to the Celtic View? The answer appears to be only 6,000 yet that appears to make it the most succesful club magazine in Britain– which surprises me a bit.

     

     

    As you know, the windfall, the view, the bars and the food at the park is all outsourced by Celtic and so they only take a percentage of the profit. This may well be a wise decision and was no doubt taken by the board after a number cruncher looked at the overhead costs of managing these services–and as you suggest, that is perhaps a good modern business practice.

     

     

    But it is not always the best practice and I have no idea at all whether it is a lazy practice. It is something that should be reviewed on a regular basis– and I am certainly not sure that it is a practice that is in keeping with the spirit of the club– after all one of things that Celtic did at the outset was to create jobs particularly for the players.

     

     

    Anyway returning to the idea of the £52, lets knock that on the head then and reduce that figure for a moment.

     

     

    Let’s reduce it to absolutely nothing whatsoever. Don’t get me wrong, I am not suggesting a whole range of discounts and benefits for zip– I am just simply talking about what it costs to register– probably online— as a member of something like CISCA.

     

     

    All that requires is a website, where you can register your name, address or whatever– nothing more.

     

     

    Such a website can be set up for not a great deal of money– indeed it could be tagged on to here, Kerrydale St, Maileys Boys or whatever. The purpose of such a site? None other than to give you numbers— numbers of registered fans of Celtic Football Club. No cost to the fan just a registration and the time it takes to so register.

     

     

    The numbers? Well I have no idea if 9 million is realistic or not– I think that sitting here today it is probably too high. Yet a sports marketing firm stated that during the Nakamura years we had up to 7 Million Celtic followers in Japan alone!!!

     

     

    Nike seem to suggest that they sell 350,000 units of each strip on average— Man Utd’s figure is 1.2 Million allegedly.

     

     

    But not every fan buys a strip. Some people by strips as presents, other people buy other “Celtic” gifts as presents– and each time you give a Celtic gift you potentially create a new fan– if the person the gift is for is not a fan already.

     

     

    But from the strip sale point of view there seems to be a steady figure of 350,000— yet the cost of a strip can be pretty expensive, and something that offered a discount on a strip and other merchandise must be of interest to the consumer.

     

     

    To get the discounters interested– whether that be Groupon or whoever, you need to demonstrate numbers– and to demonstrate numbers with a degree of accuracy you need the registration– and as I have said you should be able to create the registration for free.

     

     

    Once you have a registration process and some numbers– then you can look at the next stage as to whether you set up the admin for your own club scheme or whether you go to any existing organisation.

     

     

    I don’t think the Credit Card scheme is a good comparison– although I understand why it is made. Credit cards are associated with loans, interest, repayments and debts. Far fewer people would be interested in a credit card scheme than in a buying club scheme I think. Many Celtic fans would not thank you for a Credit card which can only be obtained after a credit check and all the hassle that involves and so on. A Buying club is whole different ball game– nothing to do with Credit checks,loans, interest, repayments and so on.

     

     

    Again I go back to registration and numbers– I received a message today from someone who said that the whole discounted fees thing works for the retailers on a fraction of the numbers that we would be talking about here at the very lowest— for the retailers it may take as low as 4 figures for this to be of interest apparently.

     

     

    I also believe that the whole thing would be best served if it had nothing to do with Celtic PLC itself. You are looking at harnessing a fan base as a whole– not the shareholders, season ticket holders or anything like that. In fact the first party you would want to impress with the numbers and the buying power would be Celtic PLC itself.

     

     

    BJ Mac has shown this evening that genuine Celtic goods can be acquired at a substantial discount by buying through Sports Direct– that is presumably because they shift a fair number of units and keep profit margin low. Basically they buy in bulk and sell for a profit– so why shouldn’t the Celtic fan buy in bulk and get a benefit?

     

     

    AS you say, The Green mile charity idea is possibly a lot easier to achieve– but it too relies on a registration scheme for members so the same basic steps need to be taken to establish that.

     

     

    I am not suggesting for a minute that you could set up some worldwide discount club in a minute or two, it would have to evolve from the basic mambership scheme and registration process but once you have numbers you can decide what step to take next. The whole point of the post was to show what COULD be possible given quoted figuires at £1 per week. Some have stated that they would be happy to pay £1 per week.

     

     

    Lastly, the whole idea is not new. When Walfrid held his meeting on the afternoon of 6th November 1887 he managed to secure a number of subscribers who signed up and stuck in some money. A list of those esubscribers is attached below. These guys bought into the “dream” or the “good idea” as you might call it.

     

     

    You will note that one name missing from the list of subscribers is that of John Glass. In many respects, it was Glass and not Walfrid who created Celtic Football Club because it was he who was ruthless on the business side and on the football side. It was he who drove the club to pay players and “Tapped” James Kelly and all the hibs players much to the annoyance of Walfrid and some of the guys at Hibs. Glass is also often accused of being the guy who stopped the payments from the new club to Walfrid’s Penny dinner club– as within a few short years there was no payments to Walfrid’s charities because the overheads had to be paid for first– oh and those payments included a salary of £100/year to Mr Glass!!!! He was the precurser of Peter Lawell by over 100 years.

     

     

    And of course a few years later some bright sparks persuaded everyone that the club had to become a limited liability company with guess what? Shares of meaningful size being acquired by the select few! Many argue that there was absolutely no need for Celtic to become a limited company at all and believe that the club should have stayed in common ownership as a co-operative.

     

     

    So, bearing that history in mind, my point here is that there will be some who are far more business minded and hard headed than me and you who will see “opportunity” knocking the minute that you get any sizeable number of registered Celtic supporters– and I honestly believe that even the most pessimistic numbers will have some of the professionals that you mentioned in the industry licking their lips in anticipation.

     

     

    There is huge potential buying power here– and huge negotiating power on all commercial fronts if you choose to harness it properly– yet so far nobody has.

     

     

    I just want everyone to see what a registration scheme could mean at something like £1/week if the numbers come flooding in from say South Korea, Honduras, India, Kenya or wherever as well as all the usual countries where Celtic are known– and let’s face it— those are the very targets that the board said they were targeting at the AGM.

     

     

    It is in furtherance of those ideas and opportunities that the board are examining a membership scheme and those markets—- and sometimes I think the fans should have an advance look at what may be the next logical step.

     

     

    Fanciful or not this is being worked on as I understand it– and if it is not being looked at the someone is missing the point and not being commercial enough.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Names+of+Subscribers

     

     

    http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Celtic+Committee

  16. merseycelt

     

     

    I never called you a hun, I said you have never posted anything positive about Celtic, you are keeping up with your MO, interpritating my words how you want them in your head.

     

     

    You told me to get educated, FACT, you said I was ignorant, FACT.

     

     

    You still are trying to put words into my posts that are not there.

     

     

    Scroll on hun.

  17. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    tttt,

     

    naw, I’m no forgetting it, as long as I suspect there is someone pushing a deliberate divisive strategy I’m going to ask that simple and profound question. Anyone distracting from the fundamental premise of the question I consider a politician and I dont trust politicians.

  18. bjmac

     

     

    Cheers. I am in total agreement mate, pira chants are few and far between home or away, however if heard they will be feasted upon and its important everyone realises this. Rob the n#b mclean and nevin’s ears will be pricked up as will waddell, leckie and others.

     

     

    Re the tax and soldiers debate, not getting involved in that. What i will say tho is for a number of years now, rangers fc have piggy backed a propaganda campaign to airbrush the history of the british army and by de facto, the british empire. They have become a parody of themselves, taking offence at expressions of irishness as being anti british. Brainless and pathetic. Make no mistake the britain they so adore is 150 years ago when they really could treat us as the #% on their shoe.

  19. My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. MARTIN42

     

     

    Sorry,pal..

     

     

    Ah don’t know why Ah mistakenly used wan’ o’ yer son’s

     

    Name,instead of yer ain..

     

     

    Ah could kick Masel…

     

     

    Yep.. of course, Ah read that reply of Your’s to which ye

     

    hiv Refered…wherein,ye wrote..

     

     

    “To Thine Self Be True”

     

     

    Words tae live by, indeed!

     

     

    Good tae see that ye are still Working away..

     

     

    Fur if ye stoapped..

     

     

    Whit then… wid yer dear customers dae fur

     

    Thur much anticipated..

     

     

    Delicious Dish ..

     

     

    Known far and wide

     

    as

     

     

    Mr. Brennan’s, famous…

     

     

     

     

    NEW YEAR’S STEAK PIE..???

     

     

    Have a guid Night,pal

     

     

    Kojo

     

    yer pal..who likes ye mair and mairer.

  20. stpatricksbhoy says:

     

    7 December, 2011 at 23:06

     

     

    The very thought of Sammy & Big Cool Gallagher at the head of such an august body as the Ancient Order of Hibernians has me sitting here wetting myself.

     

     

    Absolute CLASSIC.

     

    God rest both of these larger than life characters.

  21. Off the Record ! on

    Just now from Twitter

     

     

    BBCJamesCook James Cook

     

    Police are about to take the extraordinary step of advising all schools in west central Scotland to close tomorrow (Thursday).

     

     

    Did the Police win the last election ?

  22. Kojo says:

     

    7 December, 2011 at 23:24

     

     

    BSR and I were discussing its origins and I suggested that it had come from American football – which good old BSR’s research confirmed.

     

     

    Knew you would we more familiar with the terminology than us who are more familiar with the round-shaped ball.

     

     

    In saying that – I will settle for a Hail Mary strike by big Sammi on the 28th if it proves to be the winner!

     

     

    bournesouprecipe says:

     

    7 December, 2011 at 22:48

     

    praecepta

     

     

    Thank you for that, ( made me look it up ) hope you are still into your music (⊙_⊙)

     

     

    A Hail Mary pass or Hail Mary route in American football refers to any very long forward pass made in desperation with only a small chance of success, especially at or near the end of a half.

     

     

    Although the expression had been used before, it was made famous when it was used to describe the game-winning touchdown pass by Dallas Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach to Drew Pearson in a December 28, 1975, NFL playoff game against the Minnesota Vikings. Afterwards, it was reported that Staubach (a Roman Catholic) said, “I closed my eyes and said a Hail Mary.” [1] An early print appearance of the term was an Associated Press story about the upcoming 1941 Orange Bowl, appearing in several newspapers (the 31 December 1940 Daytona Beach Morning Journal, for one: “Orange Bowl: [Georgetown] Hoyas Put Faith in “Hail Mary” Pass”). As the article explained, “A ‘hail Mary’ pass, in the talk of the Washington eleven, is one that is thrown with a prayer because the odds against completion are big.”

     

     

    Hail Hail Mary

     

     

    Sounds like a good way to close out the game to me – and I’m sure same with you!

     

     

    H!H!

  23. merseycelt loves Neil Lennon and the Green Brigade but despises the anti irish/catholic bigotry inherent within the organisations who constitute the scottish establishment on

    TET

     

     

    LOL! Touchy and nasty!

     

     

    Will allow you to keep having a go if you wish because I’m not spoiling for a fight.

     

     

    But I stand by everything I said tonight!

     

     

    Who do you think should play in midfield on Saturday if Lenny chooses 4 in midfield? Personally, I would stick with sammi, victor, beram and forrest but suspect he will drop sammi for brown!

     

     

    HH

  24. The U19’s did us proud tonight, against very slick, technically gifted opponents. Wee Twardzik launching himself horizontally multiple times at headers in their box was a relevation. Took a right smack in the face for the first cross and then gets his head on another shortly after to score was inspirational.

     

     

    These Bhoys are the real deal. The future is green and white.

  25. Gotta Rush

     

     

     

    Good Night Scotland

     

    Good Night Ireland

     

    Good Night Wales

     

    Good Night England

     

    Good Night Canada

     

    Good Night New Zealand

     

    Good Night Australia

     

     

    And

     

     

    Good Night.. Ronnie Anderson, wherever you are..

     

     

    Kojo

  26. THE EXILED TIM..

     

     

    I once new a boy from Greenock who only had one hand (Born that way) and his nickname was Hon…When you went to the door to see if he was comming out to play and his mam or dad answered we always asked if hon was comming oot…This was totally accepted..

     

     

    Others outwith our group thought this was a terrible slur and we should call him by his proper name…

     

     

    Later on in years I asked his dad why he allowed it and his answer was that all you other boys had nicknames related to their looks,nature etc.. Hon will allways be different but by his thinking Hon wouldnt be treated NO DIFFERENT from the rest of us and he never was..I think his old mam and dad did a great job…

     

     

    Know this is nothing to do with racism but I thought it was relevant,,

  27. Off the Record ! on

    Green Oak Tree

     

     

    LOL

     

     

    I was at a fundraiser the other week and when the Compere called on everyone to get up for the Stand Up Bingo, a guy called out “Sorry Mate But Stumpy cannae “

  28. merseycelt

     

     

    Why tell me to get educated, and then tell me that I am ignorant if you are not spoiling for a fight ?

     

     

    Do you seriously think I am a racist ? I think you do.

     

     

    As I said read my posts in the context they were writen, and to whom they were writen, and read the replys, and when you have done that, you can apologise.

     

     

    Until then, as you are standing by what you said.

     

    Scroll on hun