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Police redacts to protect Scot Gov on Newco. Motherwell gesture

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The Scotsman today report Police Scotland “released 17 pages of almost entirely redacted correspondence between it, the SPFL and the Scottish Government” around Newco’s planned league win celebrations.

The police initially decided not to release any related documents but was forced to comply after a review.  What looked like a complete cover-up, not just looks like a sloppy cover-up, but for who’s benefit?

ITV’s Peter Smith reports that after an earlier Freedom of Information request, the Scottish Government said it “has zero record of communication …. via meetings, email, text, messenger or minuted calls” regarding these plans.  Police Scotland redacted the name of the Scottish Government official(s) involved in these discussions.

Why are 17 pages “almost entirely redacted” if not to provide cover to the Scottish Government’s incredible version of events?  They tried to stop you seeing anything, then the redacted as much as possible to hide her fingerprints.  But still, flags and all that.  You are being taken for granted.  Hell will freeze over before Nicola Sturgeon turns on Newco the way she has grandstanded on Celtic.

Motherwell made an incredible gesture yesterday – a free season ticket next season for everyone who bought one this season.  Amid all the plaudits they have rightfully received, some context is useful.

During the current financial year, Motherwell received a single transaction amounting to 75% of their normal annual income.  In Celtic terms, that would amount to £55m.  Right now, the Lanarkshire club have more money in the bank than at any time in their chequered financial history.  In that respect, they are alone in Scotland; few across Europe will be in such rude health.  Indeed, that extraordinary transaction would almost cover the next two season’s ticket money.

Celtic paid for it, of course, with the purchase of David Turnbull, good business for both clubs.  Good for Motherwell, but you know we can’t do anything like this, right?  There’s a league title to be won, the sole focus.

 

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  1. We are a football club ,not a pawn for the Palastine State,I think a lot on hear need to remember they have killed a lot of Jewish People,Celtic for me is all about sport ,not politics.

  2. MM,

     

     

    Football Academy you say.

     

    Any other Academy and Ofsted would have shut us down years ago.

     

     

    HH.

  3. timmy7_noted on

    Parkheadcumsalford on 12th May 2021 2:08 pm

     

     

    Fascinating you say? I think most are as bored with the one eyed postings of the site host as they are with the lack of progress on and off the park with Celtic.

  4. GREENPINATA on 12TH MAY 2021 2:13 PM

     

    Big Jimmy,

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Re Beer Frenzy.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    From last article.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Thanks for the invite, I will try my best to pop in for a few gargleblasters.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Cheers and HH.

     

    …………..

     

    Good man…Hope you can make it.

     

    HH mate.

  5. timmy7_noted on

    Timbhoy2 on 12th May 2021 2:19 pm

     

     

    I hate to go all Ernie on someone but are you serious?

     

    Maybe you should leave that topic well alone.

  6. The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on

    I wonder if Orwell had a premonition and based Oceania on modern day Scoddland?

     

     

    As I scrolled through the comments I wondered how long it would take O’Brien to respond. It wasn’t long.

     

     

    Anyway Paul, when are you going to realise you can’t question or criticise the Scoddish government? It’s not allowed and Room 101 awaits if there’s any more of it.

     

     

    As an aside, if government bias and favouritism is so apparent (which I think it is), why has Celtic not said or done anything about it?

  7. quadrophenian on

    Re Scotchland’s governors: “Banana republic, Septic isle, Screaming in the Suffering sea, It sounds like crying, Everywhere I go yeah, Everywhere I see, The black and blue uniforms, Police and priests…”

     

     

    Now the point about Motherwell’s Turnbull dosh…

     

    Only one SPFL club has received astronomical fees like Frimpong 10mill, Tierney 25mill, Brendan’s gang 9mill, Dembele 20mill, Van Dyck sell-on fee 7.5mill, Armstrong, 7mill… while spending ‘cannily’ (Coughs) on some makeweight replacements…

     

     

    So Paul, Celtic can’t compensate their fans for a shitful season because we’re gunna be such huge spenders in the transfer market – is that the conclusion ?

     

     

    Can we just spend on a proper manager and coaching crew first ??

  8. quadrophenian on

    PS Dalglish – never a fan since I read his biog where we were relegated to a couple of pars as some local club he played for before joining the ‘pool. Never my English side; not in a million years.

  9. DENIABHOY on 12TH MAY 2021 1:32 PM

     

     

    I’d give new CEO a chance mate, remember he’s not even in position yet – PL still wielding the power.

     

     

    Am horrified with what has been happening for years in the Middle East and other countries throughout the world, an example being Sudan but am also wary of Celtic fans stepping into every injustice in the world.

  10. I think the main point was that tonight was to honour Broony.Thats why the GB were allowed in.To set up the Scott Brown display.As far as I could see from the pics,it was just Palestinian flags on display.Maybe if they had asked for permission,who knows.

     

    The Palestinian plight,I have every sympathy for,but Hamas,and Hezbolla,are as despicable as the likes of Daesh.Religious maniacs on both sides.A recipe for disaster.

  11. Garngad to Croy on

    TIMBHOY2

     

     

    “Celtic for me is all about sport ,not politics”

     

     

    It is a good job Brother Walfrid did not share your mantra, our football club would not exist !

  12. Still no developments reported on the new Manager nor the new Football structure.

     

     

    John Kennedys statement is clear he doesn’t know any more than the fans. He also was clear that he is doing nothing about next season in his caretaker role.

     

     

    You can bet that the players agents and other clubs are active and not doing nothing.

     

     

    I have never saw such a long convoluted process such as this. With the lack of information the media have been making up stories in the absence of hard information which has now become an established Narrative,

     

     

    Howe has verbally accepted the job and it appears he is now dragging his heels and trying to get out of it.

     

     

    Clearly, this is a media made up story being negative about the club but in the absence of information to the contrary it is being spoke of as fact by certain supporters.

     

     

    What possible reasons does a club wanting to sell season books have for the silence?

     

     

    Maybe like Motherwell we will make this season book free to those who played last year, I wish!!!

  13. Timbhoy2 on 12th May 2021 2:19 pm

     

     

    I’m assuming you live in a property that you would consider to be your own. I’d also assume that you’d be rightly miffed if the guy in the next housing estate wanted to pap you out of your house and make you homeless or force you to live in what could easily be considered to be a concentration camp, so that he could take over your home?

  14. BIGBHOY,

     

    OK,you want Eddy Howe,and his whole new backroom staff.You want a whole host of new players,but not any old players.They must be up to the job of getting us back on top,oh,and compete in Europe.

     

    Oh,and want Celtic to let everyone in free like Motherwell did.

     

    Yep,that will work.

  15. I hope we have some sort of tribute to Scott Brown tonight.

     

    Tonight should be about honouring our departing captain and an experimental line up with a view to next season.

     

    We do not need the usual suspects going through the same old, same old tried and failed routines.

     

     

    ” Not always easy, but worthwhile ”

     

     

    HH.

  16. Perhaps we should further enrich Motherwell and take Campbell of their Hands.

     

     

    we should further enrich St Johnstone, Hibs, Aberdeen, St Mirren by buying up their best young players. After all we need a new team with only Welsh, Taylor, Soro, Turnball being worth keeping.

  17. HOT SMOKED on 12TH MAY 2021 10:19 AM

     

     

    274 Garngad Hill ( or RoystonHill as,apparently, they renamed it during the war, ) was where I spent the first 5 years of my life.

     

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    I was born at 274 Roystonhill. Does that make us cousins, or something…🤔

  18. Turkeybhoy

     

     

    I was being sarcastic about getting in free. Thats why i said “I wish”.

     

     

    I never said I wanted Howe and I don’t think he will be our new manager, I was criticising the clubs handling of the new manager debacle and the lack of information forthcoming.

     

     

    The reason I want new players as the existing squad went from treble winners to winning nothing. These players are disgruntled and will not play for our club. They are the want aways.

     

     

    Do you disagree that we need a new team?

  19. With regards to the Motherwell gesture, trying to explain it away by saying it is because we paid for it is a bit crude, no? Why belittle what is a wonderful gesture? They didn’t need to do it. They could have got 2-3 decent players in instead.

     

    Paul says:

     

    “ During the current financial year, Motherwell received a single transaction amounting to 75% of their normal annual income. In Celtic terms, that would amount to £55m. Right now, the Lanarkshire club have more money in the bank than at any time in their chequered financial history.”

     

     

    We know one thing for certain, if we received 55 million for a player, it wouldn’t be used to make season tickets cheaper, never mind free.

     

     

    It would be squirreled away for balance sheets and rainy days.

  20. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Good headline Pablo but a link to the material would be good?

     

    (Not the Scotsman or ITV pieces).

     

     

    Content released under FOI is public record.

     

     

    No privacy or copyright issues involved.

     

     

     

    PS – perhaps your next leader could be about the Battle of Hastings or how you stubbed your toe last week?

     

     

    No doubt our resident, repetitive Lawwell hater will (on comments page 1) conflate the event with our outgoing CEO and allocate blame accordingly.

     

     

    Yawn.

     

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Keep The Faith

     

     

    We’re Not Half of Anything

  21. “SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 12TH MAY 2021 1:04 PM

     

    I wonder, with all the in-breeding that goes on, whether twenty thousand of them could claim to come from the same 6 households?”

     

     

    I thought that was a bit basic for you…….but I did laugh heartily :-))

  22. Turkeybhoy at 2:31

     

     

    Your recent post is not consistent with the information available via Celticfc.net.

     

    It would appear one of you is mistaken.

     

     

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    People still going on about the “New manager”.Its Eddy Howe.Sorted

  23. I think the GB were MAYBE wrong to put up the display on Broonie night;

     

    I think Celtic FC were DEFINITELY wrong to take it down.

     

     

    Were it not for the fact that I am able to separate Celtic, My team from Celtic, the Company, I would not be re-newing this year.

  24. HOT SMOKED on 12TH MAY 2021 2:55 PM

     

     

    18 yard man

     

    What, if you don`t mind, is your surname?

     

     

    Thanks for replying. I’m a bit reluctant to share info of that sort in a public forum. Perhaps if you get my email address from p67, we could correspond?

  25. The GB have made their point. The have gained much international publicity and they always knew a political display would be taken down.

     

    I also think the board have let them have their photo shoot as the display would have been vetted on entry.

     

     

    Only my thoughts.

     

     

    According to Talk Sport in the last hour Eddie Howe is confirmed. Turkey Bhoy is correct.

     

     

    Make it official Celtic.

     

     

    HH.

  26. What was the Jewish people suppose to do when Arafat attacked there settlements,I don’t like when people from both sides get killed or murdered,Some on hear say it’s ok to support the IRA ,so tell me what’s the difference,being two faced doesn’t go down well with me ,

  27. 18 Yard man

     

    I understand. leaving there before I started school, I remember only a few people but my older brother remebers many more. Pat Sharp and Mrs Kelly are the only two I actually remember but I am aware of some others. My surname is Barr.

  28. TURKEYBHOY on 12TH MAY 2021 2:31 PM

     

    People still going on about the “New manager”.Its Eddy Howe.Sorted.

     

     

     

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    Can you tell us what Celtic have actually said about appointing Howe?

     

     

    So far as I can gather they’ve said absolutely nothing.

  29. Celtic saying` absolutely nothing.` about something does not mean it didn`t happen :-))

  30. GREENPINATA on 12TH MAY 2021 3:10 PM,

     

     

    Agree completely,

     

     

    the GB were allowed entry and put up the flags that there was many of, I don’t think for one minute that there was no security or others watching what was being put up, as you say photo op done, let’s take them down now. Seems to me that this was some sort of compromise

     

     

    HH

     

    GSU

  31. HOT SMOKED on 12TH MAY 2021 3:12 PM

     

     

    18 Yard man

     

    I understand. 

     

     

    I left as a babe in arms, but our family in that area were Duggans. I seem to recall that there was a Coyle family who were connected.

  32. Do I want to see Rangers and their fans celebrate? No. They won the league, now it’s time to move on to 21-22. The focus of the club (and us) must be manager, staff, and players. Every second spent on who celebrates where & how and who broke which rule, is one too many. Celtic is the focus.

  33. HOT SMOKED on 12TH MAY 2021 3:22 PM

     

     

    Fine. It’s just that he’s claimed previously that Celtic have commented on Howe. So if they haven’t it does raise questions about his absolute certainty on it being a done deal.

  34. TIMBHOY2 on 12TH MAY 2021 3:12 PM

     

     

    You know nothing about the situation in Palestine and are just displaying your ignorance.

  35. SCOTSMAN on 12TH MAY 2021 3:29 PM

     

     

     

    You can focus till you’re blue in the face (which is quite a popular look in Scotland) it will make hee haw difference to what happens on or off the park.

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