I spoke to Celtic today about various questions surrounding stewarding and policing in and around the stadium.
The club would not be specific on any particular incident but I got a run down on various instances (alleged assault, vandalism) when Celtic have responded to police requests for identifying information on fans. Celtic said the police can only ask for identifying information if they allege a crime has been committed and Celtic’s safety certificate, allowing them to open the stadium, depends on the club complying with police requests if they allege a crime has been committed.
The club were clear that complying with police requests on such instances is not a matter of choice for Celtic, “It happens, it has always happened, and it happens at every other club in the UK”.
I asked if the club target fans and ask the police to arrest them. I was told this is ludicrous to suggest the police do the bidding of the club (I was also laughed at for making the suggestion). Celtic can revoke tickets and stadium access without recourse to the police.
My conversation happened before anyone at Celtic heard last night’s podcast from the HomeBhoys but I asked specific questions about the red haired fan discussed who was allegedly brandishing a seat and was told no police request had been received in connection to him and that his details had therefore not been passed to the police.
I understand the club have met with various supporters’ groups and clarified these issues, as well as more general stadium safety matters, and that they will issue a statement later today in response to questions asked by the Celtic Trust, who I believe put many of these points in writing.
After speaking to Celtic I spoke to a police officer who is a regular Match Commander at SPL games (not Celtic games) who confirmed clubs would lose their safety certificate if they failed to cooperate with the police.
Having had the chance to put questions to Celtic I asked them give others the same opportunity and to unconditionally meet with any fans’ group with concerns on any of these matters. They assured me they would.
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KevJungle – Every SB purchased = vote for toothless bored
12:56 on
27 March, 2013
I’m being ‘had’ by no one.
I’ll be there, like I have for the last 50 years. No looking for a fight either mate but I support Celtic, boards come and go like the transient support but like yersel.
You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it’s evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don’t you know that you can count me out
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
All right, all right
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We’d all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We’re doing what we can
But when you want money
For people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
You say you’ll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it’s the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain’t going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
Kev Jungle….etc!
Are you a cat perchance? You’re in and out nearly as often as my cat! Admittedly, he’s more of a pain in the ass than you!
Honest!
HH
Dunfermline in Interim Administration.
Siesta time 00oooooo o)
bawsman
12:59 on 27 March, 2013
…….and we are one of the best run / most popular teams in Europe…..HAIL HAIL
ernie lynch…
The Club introduced politics to Celtic Park when they appointed Michael Davitt as patron.
I’ve been saying that on here for about 6 years. Seems it still needs to be repeated. Shame.
We are the better for it.
The club was set up with a political, libertarian (the good, UK definition) agenda. One of the reasons I love Celtic. Several members of Celtic boards throughout recent history have tried to move us away from that.
I suspect that other than the fact the Irish Tricolour gives Celtic easy marketing and promotion they would view it as a bad thing and we would go the way of hibs….
Though it annoys some of the drips.
As did the poppy protest. Something that, alongside agreeing wholeheartedly with, I would support the GB’s freedom to do so.
/p
Re. the Dunfermline situation, I think there should definitely be some kind of inquiry or criminal investigation into Masterton’s financial dealings! That’s 2 clubs dead because of him, ( the first one I’m happy with!) and I believe it it wasn’t for Fergus’ arrival, it could have been 3!
Did someone mention the other day, that he was behind Livingston’s downfall too?
Shyster!
HH
C’mon Paul. Change the subject quick. Fur goads sake
winning captains
Is the Revolution on the Season Book??
Starry Plough
I cant answer that, but apparently, it will not be televised!!
GillScottHerronCSC
new article posted.
Jonny the Tim
Whit nae beam back, sack the board..
Thoughts & best wishes are with Miki67 & Mrs Miki.
You are playing a blinder.
Stay strong.
Saltires in Seville
Unswerving support can be dangerous whoever receives it.
That is my point. There is no ideal, only human beings making judgments on a basis that changes from time to time. That is the complicated reality and whilst that makes it harder to accept it is a feature of human nature.
Ill link to what the run up to the poppy banner was later. It is an example of what happens when, by accident and not intent, the view of all was not taken into account by the few.
I know a guy who suffered as a result of that.I like to think he learned something as a result.
Im not so sure everybody likes the lessons reality is teaching us.
Burghbhoy
21:07 on
26 March, 2013
GMS
Just reading back……..
Your statement earlier regards my religion reads like something a member of the OO or typical Sevconian would spout .
Not impressed at all.
Your contention cannot be justified. No doubt you would state the inquisition and current scandals to justify your claim .
Whilst bad and repulsive , it is not the religion that is the cause but mans own frailties.
I’m proud of my Catholicism and see it as a force for great in the world.
I’m proud of my clubs heritage which is interwoven with Catholicism , I’m proud of my club for being all inclusive.
Hail Hail
Burghboy,
I must defend myself.
I’m glad religion plays a positive role in your life, and no, I don’t see current individual scandals with priests as being relevant whatsoever with my viewpoint on the catholic church. There will always be ‘wrong ‘uns’ in every organisation.
The catholic church is full of brave, well meaning, spiritual, compassionate people. Absolutely rammed with them. Witness priests in war zones in Africa, in South America opposing right wing dictatorships under threat of death. The catholic ‘people’ as a whole are among the most tolerant and compassionate on earth. (nowadays).
However, catholics are betrayed by their hierarchy. The vatican is basically a multi-national corporation, more like a hedge fund than a church. The bank itself is widely believed to be used for laundering mafia, Columbian, and Mexican drug profits. It makes political deals, had partnerships against communism with P2 (masons), the CIA (horrible people), Italian fascists, and (gulp! go easy on me here!) nazis. Actually, the list is endless.
With all its assets, like property, equities, bonds, rare fine art, rare books, gold etc etc it could probably eradicate starvation in the third world if it wanted to.
It doesn’t though. It exists to make money and that is it. It has betrayed all its family, priests, congregation, everyone.
Despite all this, everyone has the right to worship, and i am jealous of people who find comfort in any religion. I really am. Just because the new pope is probably a scumbag, (ordered latin american priests to stop protecting people from death squads- source george Monbiot.com – what a blog!) it doesn’t mean that the overall message, the ‘force for good’ isn’t correct.
Last criticism I’ll make of them is that they are also anti-gay bigots. (as are most religions)
I am a catholic. Taught by nuns in primary, marist brothers in secondary. Now i’m an athiest. I support Celtic because they are my local team, not because they are perceived as catholics. They are not a catholic team in my eyes. I actually have no idea why people think we are. Yes we were formed by catholics, but after a few years became totally inclusive.
I don’t see us as republican either. For Irish expats/refugees yes, but republicans? Where the hell did that come from?
My first games were in the early 80s. You’d be surrounded by nutters chanting SSRUC, and soon there’ll be no protestants at all etc. Just idiots. Thing is, they are the most vocal, and people then tar you with the same brush.
So to recap – enjoy being a catholic but I disagree with the hierarchy, and celtic aren’t a force for republicanism, thats just maniacs that think that. And i support celtic as my local team. How about you?
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