I listened to a Scottish Rugby podcast with Jason Leitch, recorded earlier this week, where they discussed the reasons that appear to lie behind why the Scottish Government in their treatment of football is out of step with European countries, like Germany, France, Netherlands and others, but in-step with the Westminster Government.
Professor Leitch rhetorically posed the question you and I have discussed recently, “Why can I go to the pub and I can’t go to Celtic Park.” Through analogy, he explained that the Government were able to permit some activities, not all. That has never been in dispute, during a pandemic, you cannot allow all activities.
What has not previously been confirmed is why the Scottish Government has shadowed the (frankly abysmal) pandemic response of Boris Johnson’s Westminster government, instead of acknowledging the clear and undisputed scientific evidence that drives public policy among our European peers. Professor Leitch placed responsibility for this squarely with his political masters:
“How you then make choices between sport, versus retail, versus hospitality; that comes down to decision making, by politicians, taking the best advice they can from the financial people, the public health people, the social policy people and making choices.”
Clearly the Scottish Government listens to financial, public health and social policy people before making decisions, so do Boris Johnson and Donald Trump, this allows them to act sincere, it does not make them any good. But when Europe takes one path, which is consistent with science, and Scotland follows Westminster, which has led to some of the highest rates of mortality in the world in both Scotland and the UK as a whole, we are entitled to ask, what is going on?
They do not have a different virus in Dortmund than we have in Glasgow. In both places, it spreads significantly more indoors than out. It is inhibited by adherence to clear and monitored hygiene and distancing rules, like those in place at football games across the Continent, and it spreads where consistent enforcement of these rules is unmonitored – like pubs. The difference is the politicians, not the virus.
I know this is ‘just’ football, and our consequences are nothing like the care homes fiasco, but government policy needs to shape up pandemic response in all areas. It is not easy, but if decisions are too onerous for people in Edinburgh to get their heads around, stop following a clown in London and watch what is happening in Europe: fewer deaths, fewer infections, industry specific responses.
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THE EXILED TIM on 9th October 2020 9:32 pm
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A pandemic is the spread of a disease – it’s nothing to do with deaths.
Do you not believe that a disease is being spread across the world?
THE EXILED TIM on 9TH OCTOBER 2020 9:36 PM
Quite easy to settle this.
Provide the link to the death certificate.
The Huddle
Again I never said that, please stop trying to put words into my mouth.
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If only it was that simple Ernie, it’s something that you can latch on to, jeezo you are really pathetic.
F.B.
How are you doing?
Is the Golf season still going?
What about your Dad, is he missing going to the games?
I’m fine here, stopped today until a week in Mon.
Had it on here, more sense with brain dead huns
Enjoy and sleep well Timland
JNP
Thanks for that. The final two paragraphs sum it up neatly.
JIMMYNOTPAUL-all good.Was in to see my dad today.He was golfing this morning.
Enjoy your break buddy
TET
As you are using the content of a Death Certificate to make a point, it seems reasonable enough to me that ernie can ask to see that certificate. No?
THE EXILED TIM on 9TH OCTOBER 2020 9:44 PM
You claim to have seen the death certificate but you can’t provide a link.
Have I got that right?
You claim it’s available to view on a government website.
Have I got that bit right?
THE EXILED TIM on 9th October 2020 9:44 pm
Again I never said that, please stop trying to put words into my mouth.
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THE EXILED TIM on 9th October 2020 9:32 pm
I never said that, but when there are many any other things killing many many more people daily that are not classed as a problem, you have to question why all of a sudden C-19 is being called a pandemic, unless you follow the money of course and then you will have your answer.
Remember ghuys that TET and his good lady are going through their own problems at this time.💚
Ernie
Cast your mind back to your disgraceful treatment of TT years back, now do one you utter scum bag.
TT? TinyTim?
Majestic Hartson , do you know a Conway ca@££0n very good pool player! Fairhillbhoy! Is it Tracy’s birthday! If it is , Happy birthday Tracy
JJ
I found it, it’s there, I even have the link to it, if he wants it that bad I’m sure he will find it.
Give it to him, more chance that I will die first, probably not from the Covid mind you.
He is scum, always was and always will be.
And yes Tiny Tim
HH
Wishaw Tim-not till Sunday.Thank you 👍
Deffo outa here, animals to sort for the night, new arrivals as well.
THE EXILED TIM on 9TH OCTOBER 2020 10:00 PM
‘Ernie
Cast your mind back to your disgraceful treatment of TT years back, now do one you utter scum bag.’
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Not off the top of my head, no. Maybe you could remind me.
Whatever it might have been he seems to have got over it better than you, if that’s any comfort to you.
You’re obviously upset about something or other, and I don’t want to add to that, but some of the notions that you push are not just cranky, but also dangerous, and this is one of them.
On another subject altogether I saw this the other day, which you might find of interest.
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/oct/02/kinver-edge-black-country-to-tea-englands-last-cave-people
TET
Thanks for your response and I do hope all goes as well as possible at home.
Buenas noches,
JJ
Just before I go, thanks for highlighting what I said TH
THE_HUDDLE on 9TH OCTOBER 2020 9:52 PM
THE EXILED TIM on 9th October 2020 9:44 pm
Again I never said that, please stop trying to put words into my mouth.
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THE EXILED TIM on 9th October 2020 9:32 pm
I never said that, but when there are many any other things killing many many more people daily that are not classed as a problem, you have to question why all of a sudden C-19 is being called a pandemic, unless you follow the money of course and then you will have your answer.
What you highlighted, “you have to question…… “where did I say that it wasn’t a pandemic, you will really need to do better mi amigo.
My mistake, just from quite a few of your posts recently it appeared you were saying the opposite about Covid being a pandemic, but glad you cleared it up.
Probably not a good idea to post this but I am doing so in the hope that it MIGHT bring some clarity to the unsavoury debate that has been taking place:
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/04/869278494/medical-examiners-autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-had-positive-test-for-coronavirus?t=1602278320948
For anyone looking for something to watch (and especially if you or your children are obsessed with social media) The Social Dilemma on netflix is quite good. I just forced my boys to stop looking at their phones to watch it :-)
If George Floyd diedof Covid why was a police officer charged with his murder?
As the resident wind up has already said it’s my wife’s 50th on Sunday.
Why you had to put that on here is up to you
FrankTerry on 9th October 2020 10:27 pm
For anyone looking for something to watch (and especially if you or your children are obsessed with social media) The Social Dilemma on netflix is quite good. I just forced my boys to stop looking at their phones to watch it :-)
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I hope they posted their likes online ;O)
I heard it was an eye-opener for those that don’t know the power of social media
Jobo – How many more sleeps?
D :)
Fairhillbhoy! Hopefully soon we can all meet for a beer !
The reason Covid19 is being treated as a Pandemic is because it meets the WHO’s definition of a Pandemic.
Hard to believe, isn’t it?
As one who , whilst not ignoring reality, tries to look for positives in potentially difficult situations let me ask this:
Is it possibly a good thing that John Beaton is to referee our game V Newco?
My thinking is that he must be aware of the reaction to his previous game involving us and them. Celtic did, after all, issue a statement asking him to clarify certain decisions he made.
That being so, will he be forced into refereeing more fairly?
Wishaw Tim-Bobby sent me your email 👍
THE_HUDDLE on 9TH OCTOBER 2020 10:30 PM
Yeah, I know a little about the techniques the big tech companies use (I don’t use facebook, twitter etc) but it was still an eye opener and it was definitely good for my kids to see it. Should make it easier the next time i have to confiscate their electronics :-)
ernie
I am surprised you think everyone is entitled to an opinion. At least, that is what I inferred from an earlier comment.
HOT SMOKED on 9TH OCTOBER 2020 10:33 PM
Not buying that. Not when 10 in a row is up for grabs.
Frankterry
In a nutshell, what was the gist of the programme?
Haaaaaaaave you Heard about an Amazing Man?
Go get Another Title.
Neil.
ernie
I`m not buying it either :-))
I do , though, think it offers a very small glimmer of hope for the cheating to be fractionally less.
Testing.