Yesterday was not a particularly good day for football. The Edinburgh cup final was played before a half empty Hampden long before the end and Chelsea’s revival of catenaccio secured the Champions League. If nothing else the latter proved that football at the very top level is not always great. Perhaps the reason why truly great teams are so celebrated.
There is an interesting dynamic to Rangers in administration. Creditors have a cash offer of around £8.5m to consider but eight players, Naismith, Bocanegra, McGregor, David, Whittaker, Goian, Lafferty and Edu cut release clause deals with Duff and Phelps for values greater than this.
Any CVA agreed next month (unlikely though it is) could be paid for by the departure of these players. Charles Green could potentially be the second person to buy Rangers for only £1.
It is, however, unlikely that other clubs will offer money for these players before a CVA is agreed as they will be available as free agents should the CVA fail and those in control of Ibrox attempt to form a Newco. Therefore, the chances of creditors getting their hands on any of these transfer fees are limited, no matter what happens to the company.
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Just listening to Clyde 2 and an advert has been on for the Race for Life and how Cancer Research really needs every woman to join in as every penny counts!
My question is though if every penny counts, why are they excluding half the population from taking part?????
Soho porn King , and ‘Lapdance Loyal ‘ supremo William ‘Billy Jizz’ Miscampbell has been revealed as the latest member of Sir Charles and his Knights of the Green Table.
Lurked on….
Rotten defence??..
Lurked off!!
Farewell Robin Gibb
I thank him for Nina Simone’s —- To Love Somebody
I thank him for Al Green’s —– How Can you Mend a Broken Heart .
I thank him for the only Bee Gees thing I own —– Odessa – an LP which is good enough to be on Atco .
Saw him once — Bee Gees tour with The Flowerpot Men , Tony Rivers and The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band.
Big thanks to Napoli — the crucial final part of a lovely Quad — Hertz/ Hammers / Chelski and Napoli . Enough to keep me in vinyl and books [ and shoes for the good lady from Padova ] for months.
Warm and very grey -way down south.
Seven fishes
Name our 1st choice center halfs
coorslad on 21 May, 2012 at 08:49 said:
Sorry to hear of the passing of young Niamh Curry,another little angel..
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Very sad news.
God bless you wee one , and your family.
21-5-79 on 21 May, 2012 at 09:30 said:
33rd Anniversary of my first Glasgow derby, what a night.
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Mine too
What a night
Catman
South Of Tunis on 21 May, 2012 at 09:55 said:
South I see you are on, have you any idea where I could pick up a copy of Pinball by Brian Protheroe??
I know you’re a vinyl man..
Thanks SP
voguepunter on 21 May, 2012 at 09:56 said:
Absolutely.
Imatim and so is Neil Lennon on 21 May, 2012 at 03:31 said:
”The naming of our world famous club as “Celtic” is a clear and important insight of his visionary thinking….and is sure testimony to his commitment in developing a cultural bridge.”
The myth that the name Celtic was chosen because it encompassed both Ireland and Scotland is just that – a myth. There’s no evidence to support the claim and the evidence that is put forward is wrong (in the 19th century the word Celtic was generally used to mean Irish, not Scottish , and the name Celtic had been used previously by other clubs).
It was a piece of supposition by Brian Wilson (and possibly also Gerry McNee, I don’t recall). It of course suited the agenda at the time of Wilson’s book, which should have been a warning sign for the critically alert.
Brother Walfrid may have been a visionary, though the fact he was sidelined at the earliest opportunity by the money men at Celtic suggests otherwise, but it’s wrong to try to assume that he had the same outlook and preoccupations that we curently have.
Sorry if already posted.
When 10 men won the league
By: Joe Sullivan on 21 May, 2012 09:44
IT was 33 years ago today, on May 21, 1979 that Celtic triumphed in the ultimate Roy of the Rovers derby scenario when 10 men came from behind to beat Rangers 4-2 on the final day of the season and lift the league championship
The league had looked beyond the Hoops since Christmas. In March, the Celts were still six places off the pace with no games being played between December 23 and March 3, but they clawed their way back into contention.
One of the postponed matches was the New Year game against Rangers and, as luck would have it, the clash took place as the final game of the season on a Monday night.
Rangers only had to draw, Celtic had to win – here is the Celtic View match report on what unfolded.
“Celtic got the win they required at Parkhead on Monday night against old rivals Rangers to clinch the Premier League title and a place in the European Cup next season.
“However, the manner of the Celtic win will live in the hearts of all Celtic supporters who witnessed it for the rest of their lives.
“Trailing from a goal scored by Rangers in virtually their first attack of the match, Celtic were faced with a mountainous task to get the two points they required to win the championship.
“That goal came very much into the preventable category and the Celtic defence were badly at fault as MacDonald scored from a Cooper pass.
“Despite almost continuous Celtic pressure, including a magnificent Roy Aitken header which came back off the crossbar, Celtic were unable to grab the equaliser and at half-time still trailed to that single goal.
“Twelve minutes into the second half the Celtic uphill task reached Everest-type proportions when Johnny Doyle was ordered off following an incident involving Alex MacDonald.
“Quite undaunted, the 10-men Celts set about their work again and in the 66th minute, Roy Aitken scored the equaliser they so richly deserved from a Davie Provan free-kick.
“Even more incredibly they took the lead eight minutes later after a Roy Aitken shot was blocked, George McCluskey crashed the rebound into the net.
“The Celtic joy was short-lived, however, because just two minutes later they failed to clear a corner kick and Bobby Russell equalised with a first-time shot through a ruck of players which went into the net off Peter Latchford’s right-hand post.
“Incredible though it seems, Celtic stormed back again and Peter McCloy brought off a fantastic save from a Roy Aitken header that looked a certain scorer.
“Then with only five minutes remaining Celtic raided on the right wing and George McCluskey’s hard cross was touched by keeper McCloy on to the head of Colin Jackson and into the net to give Celtic the lead once again.
“Not satisfied at that, Celtic attacked again in the last minute and Murdo MacLeod scored with a screaming shot from about 20 yards to complete a night to remember.”
Can you believe Seville final was nine years ago today? Returned to La Cartuja last sunday to see bruce springsteen…this time i left the stadium with a smile on my face and no tears…
ERNIE LYNCH 1001
It must also be wrong to assume that he didn’t.
The real visionary [ in creating a dominant , professional football team] in the early days of Celtic was John Glass; I think Bro Walfrid was probably just trying to do his best for his community, on a much more local level.
starry plough —–
Pinball ——–
Several on Ebay UK right now. Some on a buy now basis..
Happy digging .
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/from-havana-to-hampden-celtics-history-in-paintings.17641242
‘Irish club, Scottish insitution’, in the words of Billy McNeill.
Of course, as we’ve heard reinforced so much lately, the huns are also a Scottish institution and ‘part of the fabric’, so how much there is to be proud of there is debatable.
HH
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It’s available on AMAZON in various formats.
7″ single,Chrysalis 1974 @ £3.25 for example.
Seven Fishes Four Steaks
Some people are never happy unless they are complaining.
Mort
Wee bobby collins
Wow 9 years ago
Feels like last year
Wow you were back in the stadium, must have been a bit emotional
ST
twists n turns on 21 May, 2012 at 10:03 said:
Sorry if already posted.
When 10 men won the league
Think you for those memories.
Was in the Celtic end at that game. Could not get near my usual spit in the jungle.
Was in line with the shot from Murdo. Always described this as the most exciting moment of my wife.
Not the most important or memorable.
My wife never understood what I meant by that until 99 Utd v Bayern in Barcelona. She is a Red.
Mort. Same question to you
Who are our center halfs???
Yon DBBIA knows his stuff…
Many words commonly used in America today such as Hillbillies and Rednecks have their origins in our Scottish roots. While the following three terms are associated today with the American South and southern culture, their origins are distinctly Scottish and Ulster-Scottish (Scots-Irish), and date to the mass immigration of Scottish Lowland and Ulster Presbyterians to America during the 1700’s.
HILLBILLY (Hillbillies)
The origin of this American nickname for mountain folk in the Ozarks and in Appalachia comes from Ulster. Ulster-Scottish (The often incorrectly labeled “Scots-Irish”) settlers in the hill-country of Appalachia brought their traditional music with them to the new world, and many of their songs and ballads dealt with William, Prince of Orange, who defeated the Catholic King James II of the Stuart family at the Battle of the Boyne, Ireland in 1690.
Supporters of King William were known as “Orangemen” and “Billy Boys” and their North American counterparts were soon referred to as “hillbillies”. It is interesting to note that a traditional song of the Glasgow Rangers football club today begins with the line, “Hurrah! Hurrah! We are the Billy Boys!” and shares its tune with the famous American Civil War song, “Marching Through Georgia”.
Stories abound of American National Guard units from Southern states being met upon disembarking in Britain during the First and Second World Wars with the tune, much to their displeasure! One of these stories comes from Colonel Ward Schrantz, a noted historian, Carthage Missouri native, and veteran of the Mexican Border Campaign, as well as the First and Second World Wars, documented a story where the US Army’s 30th Division, made up of National Guard units from Georgia, North and South Carolina and Tennessee arrived in the United Kingdom…”a waiting British band broke into welcoming American music, and the soldiery, even the 118th Field Artillery and the 105 Medical Battalion from Georgia, broke into laughter.
The excellence of intent and the ignorance of the origins of the American music being equally obvious. The welcoming tune was “Marching Through Georgia.”
REDNECKS
The origins of this term Redneck are Scottish and refer to supporters of the National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant, or “Covenanters”, largely Lowland Presbyterians, many of whom would flee Scotland for Ulster (Northern Ireland) during persecutions by the British Crown. The Covenanters of 1638 and 1641 signed the documents that stated that Scotland desired the Presbyterian form of church government and would not accept the Church of England as its official state church.
Many Covenanters signed in their own blood and wore red pieces of cloth around their necks as distinctive insignia; hence the term “Red neck”, (rednecks) which became slang for a Scottish dissenter*. One Scottish immigrant, interviewed by the author, remembered a Presbyterian minister, one Dr. Coulter, in Glasgow in the 1940’s wearing a red clerical collar — is this symbolic of the “rednecks”?
Since many Ulster-Scottish settlers in America (especially the South) were Presbyterian, the term was applied to them, and then, later, their Southern descendants. One of the earliest examples of its use comes from 1830, when an author noted that “red-neck” was a “name bestowed upon the Presbyterians.” It makes you wonder if the originators of the ever-present “redneck” joke are aware of the term’s origins – Rednecks?
*Another term for Presbyterians in Ireland was a “Blackmouth”. Members of the Church of Ireland (Anglicans) used this as a slur, referring to the fact that one could tell a Presbyterian by the black stains around his mouth from eating blackberries while at secret, illegal Presbyterian Church Services in the countryside.
And while not an exclusively Southern term, but rather referring in general to all Americans, the origins of this word are related to the other three.
GRINGO
Often used in Latin America to refer to people from the United States, “gringo” also has a Scottish connection. The term originates from the Mexican War (1846-1848), when American Soldiers would sing Robert Burns’s “Green Grow the Rashes, O!”, or the very popular song “Green Grows the Laurel” (or lilacs) while serving in Mexico, thus inspiring the locals to refer to the Yankees as “gringos”, or “green-grows”. The song “Green Grows the Laurel” refers to several periods in Scottish and Ulster-Scottish history; Jacobites might “change the green laurel for the “bonnets so blue” of the exiled Stewart monarchs of Scotland during the Jacobite Rebellions of the late 1600’s – early 1700’s. Scottish Lowlanders and Ulster Presbyterians would change the green laurel of James II in 1690 for the “Orange and Blue” of William of Orange, and later on, many of these Ulstermen would immigrate to America, and thus “change the green laurel for the red, white and blue.”
Forever second.
Sydney Tim, depends on whether we play 2 or 3 CBs.
It would be Rogne and Mulgrew if it’s 2. Wanyama Rogne and Mulgrew if 3.
Good enough to break records in Scotland this season.
SffS
Mort, it really annoys me to see people complain just for the sake of it!
Hope young Declan is keeping you 2 on your toes! Hope mrs mort has recovered!
SFFS
South Of Tunis on 21 May, 2012 at 10:07 said:
Just found a guy in Germany with one…happy days..
There was a great Ashley Beadle rmx last year too..
He did a fine job..
A diggers life..
Still miss the old days of digging round London..
Seven
How come Neil dropped rogne when we played 2 center halfs at the back
Just asking like :)
Wow 9 years! It had flown by. I can remember it like it was yesterday. Still proud of the massive poster of the fans as I can spot myself!
SFFS
I have nothing but fine memories from that night 9 years ago. The fondest and saddest is it was the last match I would be sitting next to my Father, we went to all games together. He died a few weeks later, far too young at the age of 55. How he would be loving what is happening with the huns at the moment…
hh
bjmac
reminiscing.csc
Sydney, Cos Rogne was carrying a niggling injury hence the reason he didn’t make the bench :)
SFFS
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 21 May, 2012 at
I tempted to buy the Chrysalis one as I had it as a kid, was the Bould Leo Sayer not on that label too??
Hx2
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Beano’s in Croydon was my fave when I lived there in the 90s.
They knew their stuff,but fortunately not always,haha!
Morning all.
Just caught up on the posts through the night. Some great stuff.
Thanks to Kitalba for the formation of the club stuff. Facinating and lots of stuff I didn’t know. Thanks also to Mr X for his piece on ECF. Coooool!
With regards WGS. A bit like marmite I guess. Always loved his refusal to play the MSM’s games. Some saw it as disrespect. Nae me. OK .The football was at times painful to watch but so was MON’s final season once KOK had left.
Never realised Robin Gibb wrote How can you mend a broken heart. Saw the Rev. Al Green at the concert hall afew years back. What a night.
Wonder what revelations on the travails of dark side will transpire today
HH
SIALF
ernie:
“(in the 19th century the word Celtic was generally used to mean Irish, not Scottish , and the name Celtic had been used previously by other clubs).”
Prove it.
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Leo Sayer? Whit ur ye askin’ ME fur?!!!!!!!
Em,yes,I believe so….
Mixed memories (emotions) today. Wonderful to be in Seville 9 years ago today (how hot was it!), but my beloved gran passed away 9 years ago today also.
I also see young Niamh passed away this morning. R.I.P little one, another angel in heaven
kitalba on 21 May, 2012 at 10:16 said:
The Hillybilly/King Billy thing is untrue.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 21 May, 2012 at
Never knew that one, I worked in the West End so I was always in On The Beat round the back of Oxford Street and I loved Honest Johns..
Had my whole collection stolen in 1993, I just stood there in the empty room bubbling!!