It’s all politics. Not actual politics, in the strict definition of the word, but clubs’ dealings with the SPFL and SFA is mostly about politically manoeuvring in the direction to win your argument.
Experienced political operators will tell you not to fight the same people on too many points; pick the important areas to win and take a few defeats on the chin. Box the SPFL into a corner by not charging season ticket holders for entry into play-off matches, and you’re onto a sure win. But all SPFL clubs are members of the SFA.
They all like being given their place. If I wanted something important from the SFA, like exemption from the rule prohibiting directors of a liquidated club from subsequently becoming a club director, I’d concentrate on that and ask politely for permission to let season ticket holders into games.
But I realise there are different types of political animal. The consensus political animal is effective in certain times, then there are those who have a self-righteous tone to rules. It’s their way or the highway. To paraphrase Bob Shankly, pure, athletic, Thatcherism. Britain wasn’t ready for Thatcherism 30 years ago. She won in 1979 and lost lots of votes second time around in ’83, but the Labour vote split. The 80s were lean. For some.
Scottish football is in for a period where a self-righteous entity will muster its forces. The media coverage will reflect what we saw in politics in the 80s. The consensus operators must stand firm and unite.
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jamesgang
All the advertising Hoardings have been refurbished though,with big new SD logos at every viewpoint and they hide the rust and crumbling structures,
Wonder if someone from GCC will sign off their safety certificate this summer again?
So are celtic comsensus politicians then Paul? Or are we appeasement politicians?
If Labour wanna win the General Election all they have to do is wipe out the tories in england..simples,,dont moan about a vote for SNP being a vote for the tories,,just go beat the tories outa sight in england then it wont matter how Scotland votes…..simple enough to me..
Bawsman – “SNP has been in power 8 years, they cannot blame Labour for the state of Scotland.”
Does that mean the Red Tories can’t blame the Blue Tories for the current state of England & Wales?!
T4
WITS
Any tips for ‘Podium’ bhoy today??
HH
BMCUWP
On the day when Paul’s article is about “politics” you couldn’t make it up.
There’s the Sun newspaper and there’s another Sun newspaper. With different headlines and recommendations, one advocating Cameron the other Sturgeon
Or are they so different?
The Scottish Sun could not possibly advocate Cameron to Scottish readers or else circulation would shrivel up, and since they want Cameron in, they recommend anyone else who will stop Labour getting votes in Scotland. Step forward wee Nicola.
Murdoch has influence in very high places, but he still needs to push his friends agenda in his daily comics.
“Hide it behind some anti-English stuff and they’ll never know.” London editor to Scotland editor.
I mean , it’s not as if these redtops do anything unethical or dishonest.
DemocracyMyErchie CSC
Negannon…..cmon …Show me just ONCE where i called anyone on here a hun….Once….boring….
A vote for independence was a vote for the SNP and to try and dress that up any other way is nonsense as they were the party pushing the issue.
Scotland will suffer more than any other part of the UK if the Tories get back in and Sturgeon will no doubt blame Labour when it all goes horribly wrong.
Any word on guidetti hearing ?
Also aanthing else on denayer staying or going … ?
Here’s a tip Hutchybhoy, make sure your door is locked in Santa Ponsa…..
bgx
What age are you? With that kind of logic God help us!
Good afternoon Timland
Will be in a place called Komoma ? Corfu, this time tomorrow, so where can I watch the Bhoys ?
Hail Hail
leftclicktic
12:41 on 30 April, 2015
jamesgang
“Apparently MA visiting the recently refurbed SD store in Gla today”.
Is it on Edminston Rd Govan,to pay the wages.
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I remember a previous possible default a few years back. Then McGills Buses got £100k nicked overnight.
Sally was paying for pasties prozzies and pintsa pomagne in pound coins all month!
proudbhoy
12:56 on 30 April, 2015Any word on guidetti hearing ?Also aanthing else on denayer staying or going … ?
wrong blog mate…..
Struggling to find a party I would give my vote to. Where I am it is a choice between either Lib Dem or SNP, Labour have a proverbial snow ball in hells chance. No party that would actively stand up for the underprivileged in our society in other words no real Socialist candidates. Watched Scottish question on the BBC this morning. Reminded of a primary school playground. Sturgeon gave a master class in political obfuscation when pressed about another indy ref in the near future. I believe we are going to get another Tory government due to the demise of Scots labour which strangely may end any chance of another indy ref for the foreseeable future.
Politicians – Don’t trust any of the blighters.
FightthepowerCSC
northeast ghirl
12:45 on
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I am a member of the Labour Party because I want to help my fellow men/women.
Some of the things done in my name I don’t like but i’d no sooner join any other political party than I would change from supporting Celtic if I donn’t agree with the board.
People I work with slag off the Union, I tell them THEY are the Union, join in get it changed if you don’t like it.
8 years in power the SNP, have things heaved leftwards?
Northeast Ghirl,
I voted yes for a chance to change things as did the majority of others.
The SNP may well have designs on ruling Scotland and you would be a fool to think otherwise.
Remember Scotland would still be a democratic country when it becomes independant. We would them get a chance to vote for the party that represented us. The SNP would rebrand but I wouldn’t vote for them.
A blog full of political debate, yawn.
I’ll check back in tomorrow and hope that football is back on the agenda.
Woke up this morning feeling fine
I had Celtic on my mind……….
Then I read CQN
‘GG
Hoooooooopy birthday again on the new article :))))
Hutchybhoy
Jamiebhoy
That’s if he’s ever in his room!
Leftie
Same nugget that did McLean the hun ref’s eye test will sign off ipox as ‘fitt fur purpoise’
Porpoises and other Cetaceans are however too intelligent to frequent such polluted environs and aren’t welcome anyway because as one local fan said ‘cetaceans sounds a bit Kafflik’
You (almost) don’t need to make it up!
HH jamesgang
Celtic’s Development Squad will play Falkirk at 2pm today. Team news and live coverage coming shortly.
Celtic Development Squad v Falkirk: Fasan; Wardrop, Kelleher, McCart, Chalmers; Lindsay, McManus; Thomson, Nesbitt, Duffy; McGrath
Celtic subs: Higgins, McCabe, Hill, Miller, Hendry, Ralston.
Hutchybhoy
Do we call you Podium Bhoy ALL day?
:o)
BGX how about last night? You really are very silly at times.
I also see that you believe scotland is independent already. You just don’t believe in democracy at all do you?
jamesgang
Ouch. Ah ken there’s naebuddy like that in the parish of Dunblane.
PodiumBhoy CSC
Mullet and co 2
You were following what you believed was best for Scotland but it is not just about Scotland in this election.
I’m Scottish but had no say in the referendum but they wheeled out tax Dodgers like Connery as spokespeople to convince everyone this was the best way forward and now what to convince us that they care about the rest of the UK.
I would believe Sturgeon if she told me tomorrow was Friday.
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why is everyone so concerned about what the sun says?
most of the time people on here say its a rag, that they dont read it and they urge others not to read it or paste links to it on here
all of a sudden theres something in it that helps them make a point and they are all over it like a shot
maybe many of those who profess not to read it actually do
That should wouldn’t believe Sturgeon if she told me tomorrow was Friday.
northeast ghirl
12:39 on 30 April, 2015
Robcfc11
Irrespective of the Rangers fans supporting a club we knew for years where cheating, that should not be used as an argument to not support Labour.
Mr Salmond claimed they were an institution and tried to get them saved, even speaking to Cameron about it but Celtic fans still voted SNP in the referendum.
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A minor point and I think I know what you imply, but it was not possible to vote SNP at the referendum. The choice was Yes or No. Or are you implying that No voters voted for the Labour/Tory coalition?
Northeast Ghirl –
Welcome back Alfie. We missed you :-)
“Britain wasn’t ready for Thatcherism 30 years ago. ”
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Oh,really?
Four successive terms of conservative govt.,but Britain wasn`t ready?
Which may explain the ten or so years of Thatcher followed by a few years of Major.
Perhaps this little sample of `70s U.K.may just provide an explanation to the ideologically challenged and historically ignorant .
Gravediggers’ Strike[edit]
A notorious industrial action during the winter(Addendum `78 `79), and one which was later frequently referred to by Conservative politicians, was the strike by gravediggers, members of the GMWU in Liverpool and in Tameside near Manchester.[7] Eighty gravediggers being on strike, Liverpool City Council hired a factory in Speke to store the corpses until they could be buried. The Department of Environment noted that there were 150 bodies stored at the factory at one point, with 25 more added every day. The reports of unburied bodies caused concern with the public.[8] On 1 February a persistent journalist asked the Medical Officer of Health for Liverpool, Dr Duncan Bolton, what would be done if the strike continued for months, Bolton speculated that burial at sea would be considered. Although his response was hypothetical, in the circumstances it caused great alarm. Other alternatives were considered, including allowing the bereaved to dig their own graves, deploying troops, and engaging private contractors to inter the bodies. The main concerns were said to be aesthetic because bodies could be safely stored in heat-sealed bags for up to six weeks.[8] Bolton later reported being ‘horrified’ by the sensationalised reportage of the strike in the mass media.[9] The gravediggers eventually settled for a 14% rise after a fortnight’s strike.
RWE
Howdy,oul’ pal. Trying to contact our recalcitrant fiend,sorry,friend.
Flag is resplendent in its new home,my hun flatty not happy. It’s right behind the telly.
My telly is 47″ and the flag dwarves it. He’s effin ragin. I don’t watch telly so I dunno what his problem is.
I may find out tomorrow,rent day haha!
Wee Katie Brown of The Ice Bucket Challenge sends her love,btw. Tony nominated her on DONTSHRINK cos none of her pals would.
(Must admit,that t-shirt wisnae good planning. She nearly had my eyes out…)
Deniabhoy
If you haven’t already checked out…
For me and my wee corner, the dialogue today was about MSM manipulation and distortion of information to further a hidden(not so well) agenda in an effort to sway opinion.
That must ring some bells for Celtic fans. :o)
Ding Dong CSC
North east…ghirl…i live in Glasgow,,never voted anything other than labour in my life,,i voted YES..now Glasgow always has been a Labour stronghold yet Glasgow votedYES….so how do you think that happened….my guess is that loads of Labour voters must have did what i did…safe to say that……and as for my point about how labour could win the election….my point aint wrong….just go wipe the torys out..simple,,go take hampshire and buckinghamshire and wherever…then it will not matter how Scotland votes,,
Politics is fine. It’s guys who drone on about it with an obvious lack of knowledge who bore me.
That said…My labour candidate is worth a look at.
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Sexist csc
Yet more unrelenting SNP bashing on CQN. It’s hard to comment at times as I’m sure we all generally want the same things; NHS, good schools, quality of life. Politically we are probably about 90% aligned on everything.
The Labour Party is the most significant party ever in the UK – one that had beliefs and actioned them. They were for a while a party of the people.
Now Labour offers virtually nothing except the ‘less bad’ option. Totally beholden to corporations, they offer only a longer race to the bottom than the tories.
They have been bought out, as have the unions; the Unite leader on £140,000 pa. What a joke. I’m sure we won’t see anything radical from this guy.
I, along with the majority of Scotland, have had enough. We want to redraw the political arena we live in. I’d take an Old labour majority in Scotland at the drop of a hat. We won’t have a chance of this in the UK. You will have right wing politics rammed down your throat til you die, as part of the UK.
If you are an old Labour guy, you’ll find the Green manifesto is actually your political home. Smash the Union, then vote socialist. Yee ha!
Celtic Football ClubVerified account @celticfc
k commons will address the media at Lennoxtown ahead of Friday night’s fixture against Dundee.
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Kris Commons speaking to the media on title race: “We still have a job to do. We have some difficult games coming up.”
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KC: “Have some tough games and if we take the foot of the gas could be difficult. Main focus is winning on Friday night.”
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KC: “Will be a difficult game if we are not quite at the races.”
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KC: “Been training hard this week to put on a show, not just win the game but entertain the crowd.”
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KC: “They (Aberdeen) play at the weekend, so it’s important for us that we get 3 points and put pressure back on them.”
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KC: “But our main focus of this week’s training has been about ourselves.”
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KC on winning the title:” The sooner the better.”
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KC: “When you have games with nothing to play for at the end of the season can be entertaining, not as much pressure on. ”
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KC: “For us, about getting it done and dusted and then the manager can look at giving some of the more senior players a bit of rest.”
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KC: “About getting job done on the Friday and then we can look at other results.”
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KC on championship medals: “An ongoing process. After four, I want five, six and then we will go on from there.”
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KC: “We just need to concentrate year in, year out. Important to focus on winning the next one, which is this one coming up.”
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KC: “The reason it’s only been done a handful of times shows how difficult it is.”
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KC on #UCL “Just another target to hit. In pre-season manager will sit us down and outline what he wants us to achieve in season.”
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KC: “The treble & #UCL will be spoken about again. Have a squad & group of guys where drive & hunger for success never been so good.”
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KC: “We get three weeks off and straight back into swings of things. We have to be on the money from word go.”
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The @spfl has announced that the 2015/16 Premiership season will start the weekend of Saturday, August 1. Fixtures to be announced in June.
Bawsman
13:02 on 30 April, 2015
northeast ghirl
12:45 on
30 April, 2015
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I am a member of the Labour Party because I want to help my fellow men/women.
Some of the things done in my name I don’t like but i’d no sooner join any other political party than I would change from supporting Celtic if I donn’t agree with the board.
People I work with slag off the Union, I tell them THEY are the Union, join in get it changed if you don’t like it.
8 years in power the SNP, have things heaved leftwards?
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I bet if we had a pint and a political discussion we would agree on the vast majority of policy issues. To me independence is about taking control of Scotland’s affairs, budget and policies. In an independent Scotland I would probably vote Labour (with a chance that a Scottish Labour party would be a bit more socialist). Until that is the case I won’t vote Labour.
I don’t recall Scotland heaving leftwards between 1999 and 2007 until Labour either to be honest. But to be fair Labour did give us devolution.