It’s all politics. Not actual politics, in the strict definition of the word, but clubs’ dealings with the SPFL and SFA is mostly about politically manoeuvring in the direction to win your argument.
Experienced political operators will tell you not to fight the same people on too many points; pick the important areas to win and take a few defeats on the chin. Box the SPFL into a corner by not charging season ticket holders for entry into play-off matches, and you’re onto a sure win. But all SPFL clubs are members of the SFA.
They all like being given their place. If I wanted something important from the SFA, like exemption from the rule prohibiting directors of a liquidated club from subsequently becoming a club director, I’d concentrate on that and ask politely for permission to let season ticket holders into games.
But I realise there are different types of political animal. The consensus political animal is effective in certain times, then there are those who have a self-righteous tone to rules. It’s their way or the highway. To paraphrase Bob Shankly, pure, athletic, Thatcherism. Britain wasn’t ready for Thatcherism 30 years ago. She won in 1979 and lost lots of votes second time around in ’83, but the Labour vote split. The 80s were lean. For some.
Scottish football is in for a period where a self-righteous entity will muster its forces. The media coverage will reflect what we saw in politics in the 80s. The consensus operators must stand firm and unite.
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Tom,
Don’t be silly
It’s only SNP loving YES voters who appear on the blog in the run up to a vote dontcha know :))
HH
Up the Shinners anywie
Thatcher’s majority went up in 1983 considerably, though the vote share was the same I think.
Bawsman
I ripped up my Labour Party card when they became Tory Light ( or is that Right). They have sold out the working class.
HH to you.
The SNP leadership will be delighted if we wake up to a Tory government next Friday.
Paul67
I think the way to tackle the self righteous is to present them with hard evidence of their adherence to the 3Ds.
Deceit, duplicity and disingenuousness
Then present that to the world.
Then end it.
BMCUWP
I well remember you telling me of Katie and my subsequent message to Tony, and he duly obliged. A lovely thing to recall.
Reciprocate those sentiments to her for us all.
HH
Ernie, probably, but the dream scenario for the SNP would be a majority Labour Government that tanked. Much like the last one. Nowhere to turn to then.
Politics and politicians make my teeth itch.
Despise the subject and proponents thereof.
Be back when the discussion is about Celtic, laughing at the huns, the weather, food, bevvy, ANYTHING but soddin’ politics.
Oot.
FOGHORNLEGHORN
I heard about it on Radio 2.
I’d be surprised if anyone who actually bought the Sun was aware of it simply by buying it and reading it.
After all,how likely is it that the Scottish version plasters its support for the SNP all over its pages but mentions the national versions support for the tories?
Just as an aside,like. Cos most media outlets mentioned both. But not the superdupernottryingtopullthewooloveryoureyesgetthetoriesin
Soaraway Sun!
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Bada bing
Ha worth a go.. back at work now for 4 weeks so internet time very limited. Hopefully get the blog at a better time next time
coolmore mafia
13:25 on 30 April, 2015
I disagree.
They want a Tory government.
That’s why they’re advising people in the rest of the UK to vote for the Greens or Plaid Cymru, not Labour.
That’s why they’re going out of the way to antagonise the English and attempting to stoke up English nationalism, which is just as ugly as Scottish nationalism. Their allies in the Tory party are of course playing along with it.
Looking forward to next Friday’s “Labour Wipeout” party in the capital.
Should be fun.
rwe
;-)
Bobbio
You have a flatmate?
You have a flat????
You think you know someone and then……..secrets, double lives, previously unmentioned significant others…..
Herbo
You see and mind to wear your ukip badge at the next shinners meeting you attend! ;-)
HH jamesgang
coolmore mafia
Morning (over here in Atlanta anyway)
Party bashing seems fairly evenly distributed on here this morning.
Labour are Tory Light.
Lib-Dems are so irrelevant they don’t even get a mention.
Tory’s are only referred to as a benchmark for insulting Labour.
SNP are a dupe to stop Labour and help the Tories.
Now is there a football match on tomorrow somewhere?
:o)
Hootenanny CSC
Tom McLaughlin
I resent being referred to as Alfie. I was brought up in a family that respected everyone’s point of view and if you don’t like what I have to say then don’t read my posts.
North East Ghirl, I voted yes so that somebody and somewhere might actually get a better life. The status quo is red or blue fighting for the survival of red or blue for the sake of the party and the benefits that tjey get.
Unconditional love for a party no longer fit for purpose.
JamesGang
I don’t think it would go down well with the good folks at Cairde :-o
Tom McLaughlin
13:33 on 30 April, 2015
Looking forward to next Friday’s “Labour Wipeout” party in the capital.
Should be fun.
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‘We didn’t mind the economic side so much’.
Were you one of the ‘we’?
Just asking.
MACJAY
Gravediggers strike was a localised dispute and dealt with. Not pleasant for the bereaved. At all.
The measures you describe for storage of bodies are still in place. They are in place for a number of reasons.
Here’s the deal.
Loadsa people die and bodies remain unburied.
Reasons likely are your old pal that you keep bringing up like Yorrick that no-one will bury them.
An epidemic. SARS. Bird Flu.
Ebola,or similar.
A serious escalation of geopolitical sabre-rattling goes wrong.
There are various possibilities that could lead to bodies being unburied. In far greater numbers than you mentioned earlier.
That’s why Civil Contingency exists.
Guess what? The answer is still cold storage.
BTW,glad to see you back,ya curmudgeonly reactionary oul’ git!
Denayer will be back at Man City next season.
Just an opinion.
Demichaelis will be punted and Vincent will have one more season bringing Jason on so that he will be the new Vincent.
TwosKompany CSC
It’s your timing that makes me suspicious.
You’re not fooling me mate.
:-)
Ernie we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
TBH, I feel antagonisation of the english is long gone in our culture, compared to years gone by. Also, the SNP appear to be fighting a very clean campaign, with no antagonisation of England; unless we call being Scottish and democratic, antagonistic.
Personally, despite the usual talk, I don’t see any significant difference between tory and labour.They’ll both fully endorse TAFTA. The NHS will slowly be privatised. We will kill civilians abroad, and argue over the crumbs left on the table.
I’m not going to change your, or anyone else’s mind. All I would urge is labour / snp supporters to check out the Green manifesto. We have proportional representation of sorts in the scot parly and it wouldn’t be a wasted vote.
Bawsman
13:02 on
30 April, 2015
northeast ghirl
12:45 on
30 April, 2015
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I am a member of the Labour Party because I want to help my fellow men/women.
Some of the things done in my name I don’t like but i’d no sooner join any other political party than I would change from supporting Celtic if I donn’t agree with the board.
People I work with slag off the Union, I tell them THEY are the Union, join in get it changed if you don’t like it.
8 years in power the SNP, have things heaved leftwards?
Yep we are all part of the Union.
The only folk who don’t accept this are the Westminster establishment parties and the English media that isn’t to happy at the prospect of Scots having an effective say in how
the Union, of which we are all part is run.
https://twitter.com/boringkearney
Better than politics :))))
Cowiebhoy 13:00 on 30 April, 2015:
Celtic Park…:)
Enjoy and pass on my good luck to H in the new job.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
I’ll do a football post for my friend in Atlanta.
Shocking Celtic games;
Most pleasant shocker – Ajax 1-3 Celtic MON.
Most shocking shocker – Dundee 5-1 Celtic, just after we went out to Real. Still shocked to this day about that one. Worse than ICT and Clyde.
rob&dave kearney@boringkearney · Apr 23
“I said to Dave, down with that sort of thing Dave cautiously replied, careful now, then we both high fived the banter in pro rugby is unreal”
Till later all
I actually quite like the Green Party manifesto, and not just for the colour scheme!
HH
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
13:27 on
30 April, 2015
FOGHORNLEGHORN
I heard about it on Radio 2.
I’d be surprised if anyone who actually bought the Sun was aware of it simply by buying it and reading it.
After all,how likely is it that the Scottish version plasters its support for the SNP all over its pages but mentions the national versions support for the tories?
Just as an aside,like. Cos most media outlets mentioned both. But not the superdupernottryingtopullthewooloveryoureyesgetthetoriesin
Soaraway Sun!
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who is getting the wool pulled over their eyes?
if people cant make up their own mind on who to vote for and rely on the sun to tell them, then quite frankly they deserve everything they get
have the scottish sun not sided with the snp before 2 or 3 elections ago(i might be wrong, it may have been labour in scotland and tory in england), but as i mentioned before, they side with where they reckon the support is. they have newspapers to sell after all which is there 1 and only concern
do you think english voters are having the same discussion because their english version is saying tory but the scottish version is saying snp?
i very much doubt it
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COOLMORE MAFIA
Some headmasters and GPs earn £140k
Wage envy? Poor argument.
Some pigs are more equal than others. I accept that. What I won’t accept is me and mine never being given the chance to be equal.
Labour gave us that. People say Labour has failed.
You know what? Labour was too successful.
It set out to drag people from poverty. Provide proper housing. Education. Health care. Employment. All the things that you could possibly need including a decent pension provision.
Unfortunately.
Labour policies ended up so successful that a few generations later,the fruit of their achievements became clear.
People were now comfortable. And wanted to remain so. They didnae want other people climbing up the same ladder they had used.
Result-Thatcher.
Writing was on the wall forty years ago. Her legacy lives on.
And Labour suffer for their success.
leftclicktic:
scraping a squelchie of the bottom of your shoe is more fun than politics; especially so when regardless of which party owns the keys to the shackles the hungry homeless of Glasgow, and beyond, will still be cold and hungry and homeless and destitute and weary of hope.
Big freedom bird for me next weekend mate, so if you’re about tomorrow….
So politics is a valid topic for Celtic Quick News?
Influencing votes based on your own understandings and perceptions is not something I respect or advocate. Each person has their own experiences and individual needs so to base your vote on a projected and hypothetical outcome plus relying on a party to deliver it’s pre-election promises is naive in the extreme. This goes for all parties. Vote on your own feelings and instincts. Is the leader trustworthy ? Have they delivered majority of election promises ? Do they care about your community ?
My personal opinion is that the difference between Labour and Tories these days are so slight that it would hardly change anything other than them all moving to opposite sides of the House of Commons until it’s the others turn again. SNP will never get an independent Scotland nor will they run government but they will fight the corner of Scotland more than any other party whilst staying truer than the rest to protect the social welfare pillars needed north of M25.
Do we even have a democracy ? I would argue against and I pray that the real decision makers behind the curtain do not continue on the destructive path of flicking Russia on the nose and cease destroying civilised countries with UN recognised sovereignly elected governments in middle east when they dare turn away from USA. The innocent blood spilled is utterly scandalous and is more news worthy than the false promises of two parties who continue is down the dark alley !
FOGHORNLEGHORN
Sorry,mate. With the best of intentions,if you don’t know the answers to your own questions,I canny help you.
I’ve had enough! Looking at the bald statistics, it’s evident that SPFL (doubtless with Celtic’s unseen support) act to schedule Celtic Home matches directly opposite my son’s team’s fixtures.
It started with the first home game of the season being switched to a midweek, midseason game, then an entire series of games switched en masse from Saturdays to Sundays.
Now, this Friday’s match is to be played at the same time as the Lanarkshire Schools Cup Final.
From the 19 home ties in the SPFL, 11 have been scheduled opposite the boys’ matches. That’s almost 60%, and 5 standard deviations from the mean.
If it wasn’t so obvious you’d dismiss it as flight of fancy, but the statistics don’t lie.
Saying that, if I’m bummed out, how’s he feeling? Out injured since November, started playing again this month, and with the Cup Final on Friday, what did he do last Sunday?
Tore his hamstring.
Out.
To be fair to the school’s coach, he’s insisting the boy gets stripped and sits on the bench in order to qualify as a member of the final squad. Nice touch.
Lennybhoy – thanks, will do
Daughters will be there as usual :-)
So no one been to Kommena Bay, Corfu? I see a couple of bigger places nearby, or does sky go work abroad ?
Cancelled Sky, but doesn’t switch off until 20th May, after a months notice
Where does that Sammi fella stay :-)
Hail Hail