Pursuit of Celtic in January was a sham


24 hours on and not a whisper from the Scottish Government, their Senior Clinical Advisor or their principle academic media backer on dropping all of the sanctions imposed when Celtic were the target, when the issue at stake is not the Scottish Premiership but Euro 2020 progress.

The whole of Europe knows Billy Gilmour spent time in enclosed spaces with much if not all of the Scotland squad, any other explanation is not even remotely possible, he was photographed with Steve Clarke’s head touching his, Clarke’s hands clasped on his jaw.  I heard what happened when results arrived for Celtic’s Dubai Test and Trace.  Where is the vigour to pursue athletes who do not represent Celtic, Ms Sturgeon?  Either this is a sham or the Government’s pursuit of Celtic in January was.

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  1. glendalystonsils on

    Scotland ; sort out your ‘kulchur ‘ then you’ll have a chance to sort out your football . An insular, Presbyterian


    mindset which extends from the top down . Run by Neanderthals , for Neanderthals .

  2. FOURSTONECOPPI on 22ND JUNE 2021 10:37 PM




    That’s how fascism starts ffs

  3. CELTIC40ME @ 11:01 PM,



    When Peter Lawwell came in, Tommy Burns who had become something of an expert in these matters, had a blue-print for a state~of~the~art Football Academy at Lennoxtown. A share issue was raised to fund it.



    TB was given a Coaching job with GS and Lennoxtown and the funds were used to develop a first team training facility – not a very good one at that I hear.



    Point being, in the last eighteen years Celtic have been far and away the best Club in Scotland, if indeed Scotland play football from a different era, Celtic have to take a considerable part of the blame for the stagnation.



    Of course there is a few exceptions but the Andy Robinson’s and Gilmour’s of this world greatly benefit from leaving Scotland to devop as footballers.



    Greame Souness was trolling our ex-Captain – his Modric is past it at 35 digs look extremely silly now don’t they?



    Hail Hail

  4. Now that game is gone.



    Will we hear Celtic complain about inconsistencies in track and trace/isolating



    Or will there be a new 5 way agreement to cover it up????

  5. So Billy Gilmour contracts Covid-19 and no other Scottish players are involved. Mason Mount and Ben Chilwell are found to have been in close contact with Gilmour and the FA make them self isolate for 10 days. P67 sees this as an SNP conspiracy. Me, I think they were all at a party and both the FA and the SFA are covering this up. Maybe that’s too logical or even a conspiracy on my part.


    As regards Mr Clarke, he has balls of cotton wool. He wouldn’t grasp a nettle if he was wearing chain mail gloves. I’m glad he manages Scotland and not Celtic.


    I seldom come on here anymore due to the fact that it has become more of a political site than a Celtic site a situation that is not helped by the continual politicisation of the problems at Celtic being laid at the door of the Scottish government by the owner of this is now, sadly, tired website.


    Sorry Paul, our problems have been self inflicted and the cure is introspection and reflection not deflection and the apportioning of blame to outside agencies.

  6. If we don’t qualify for Qatar next year


    We’re going to find ourselves out in the desert

  7. SFTB,


    Maybe you should read it again. Nothing to do with politics more to do with the direction, or lack of it, this once fine Celtic supporters site is going.


    We were once noted for stepping up to the plate to support fine causes and charities and the discussion of all things Celtic. All I ever read when I come on here now is politics and not even well debated.


    The site is also plagued by adverts for a reason, the generation of income. It is a well recognised fact that seven figure sums can be generated by blogs from advertising. Some of the adverts I see on here, when my Adblocker is paying up, beggar belief.


    I hope that didn’t read as being too political for you unless you thinking I’m being too PC. 😉

  8. DAVID66 on 22ND JUNE 2021 11:04 PM


    AT – Pollock centre — played for Possil YM against Pollock United great games loved the battle.



    D :)



    The one and same Davie,20 grass,2 gravel parks


    Bellarmine had 4.(2 full size)


    a lot of my saturdays spent there.every pitch booked 9am school, 11am cubs youths,local amateur 2pm



    so each pitch had 66 players played on each pitch


    20 pitches


    1320 players playing football.



    checkin out the evenin times for where you were in league



    possil were a great youth side.did kennyd not come from there


    Hillwood and Glasgow amateurs were sides over this side of town too.






    I hope you are well big man.


    I’ll see your 20 pitches and raise you 50 pitches. Now home to the Daily rangers at Shieldhall, not one left.


    The SFA have presided over the decline of Scottish football for almost half my lifetime and it was all for two clubs, both of which have played out of Ayebrokes.

  10. Coaching starts at a very young age, how do they coach there youngsters in Croatia, we have been talking about this for years a lot of years but nothing changes.Drive a double decker bus through the midfield same as Celtics. Modric (sp) at age 35+ could have sat on a chair and still dictate the play.


    Nothing to do with GDP.

  11. Very happy Steve Clarke is not heading to Lennoxtown next week after a week’s break. A very, very limited manager.



    Scotland qualified but in truth have got beaten comfortably by two average sides in their group.

  12. Billy Gilmour was 16 when he left Scotland and was developed as a Youth international in Scotland by the SFA Performance school at Grange Academy and by the Sevco development programme at Murray Park. When he left for England at 16, he was already an accomlished player- that’s why Chelsea came calling. They did not consider his early training in any way a handicap. What they could provide was a competitive environment that was superior to what he’d get at Sevco- thta is what improves players playing against good players every week- never having a week to slum it against opponents you might beat in 2nd gear- and having to battle past equally ambitious youngsters from all over the globe to get into a tough Chelsea squad- where he has not yet established himself- may I add.



    Andy Robertson was no more developed by Liverpool than Va Dijk was. Andy was developed at Lennoxtown, Queen’s Park and Dundee United. He developed enough to get a big money move to Hull at age 20 already a full international cap. He kicked on at Hull and was a ready made player for the Liverpool first team when he went to them, just as Virgil would have been if he had by-passed Southampton and gone straight to Liverpool.



    Eight of the current 26 man Scotland squad were developed at Lennoxtown, 5 more played for Celtic having been developed by Hearts, Killie, United , ICT and Motherwell. All bar Craig Gordon arrived at Celtic in their early 20’s, Armstrong at 23, Turnbull at 21, Ryan Christie at 20, and Greg Taylor at 21.



    We played some part in the development of 50% of this Scotland squad, even Craig Gordon only got CL experience with us.



    We played a part in the progress to consistent International Football of the 2 Belgian CBs who were languishing in Man City reserves till we gave them opportunities.



    Lennoxtown gives a good coaching and development grounding to young Scottish boys but it does not provide a competitive football playing environment for most because at 16 and 17 they are a long way off from being trusted in a Celtic first team environment where they have to get past 18 or so Full internationalists to get a chance. Once the Reserve league collapsed and UEFA Youth tournaments stopped with Covid , we gave very little development experience to promising players like young Harper from the USA and Armstrong Okoflex, who has now left us and even to Karamoko. It also led to several youngsters being tempted by English and German clubs since they see Youth competitive options being so easily sacrificed here



    Next year the Lowland league regular fixtures will rectify some of this but I would still prefer some past-it pros from the Scottish Premiership to nurture them rather than throw a team of 17 year olds into the 5th tier of Scottish football.



    But like Man City and Chelsea , albeit with mostly lesser prospects aavailable to us, we will still need to find clubs willing to accept and play our players on Loan at a suitable lower league level, so like McGregor and Christie they can have a path to bridge the gap to being a first team regular pick. John Hughes did us a favour in giving Leo Hjelde regular game time last year but his Ross Co. predecessors stifled ross Doohan’s development and we may lose him now. Young Stuart Robertson got some valuable game time from Stevie Evans but was less lucky in getting regular Doncaster game time and this could harm his immediate prospects.



    We have done a disservice to many in our Youth Squads recently but it is not the quality of the caoching we provide (We have many fine coaches, as, unfortunately, does the Sevco Youth set up) but we cannot provide a suitable competitive environment operating only in Scotland with loans to Championship and League One clubs. An english League One and Two Club would provide a better path if we could guarantee enough game time

  13. squire danaher on

    TIMHORTON on 22ND JUNE 2021 11:58 PM






    2011 census have 86.28% population describing themselves as Catholic.



    Spent a week in a wee place called Sibenik an hour up the coast from Split. Fabulous.



    Well I thought so anyway.




    Andy Robinson would have worked at Waitrose instead of Asdas if he’d have grown up in Englands.

  15. Pog



    I saw the first para as equally political but I may have misunderstood the satirical intent.



    I agree with the issue re adverts.



    Our host has a business to run but many of the charitable initiatives were started by posters on here who have departed elsewhere. I am sure many of ours are still contributing though, apart from the Golf get togethers in Fife, there has been a sad reduction in CQN get togethers.



    I hope, if Covid situation allows, we can get back to some of that.








    I hope you are well big man.



    I’ll see your 20 pitches and raise you 50 pitches. Now home to the Daily rangers at Shieldhall, not one left.



    The SFA have presided over the decline of Scottish football for almost half my lifetime and it was all for two clubs, both of which have played out of Ayebrokes.





    Yup Pog your not wrong.i recall the 50.


    all that gone.for their works team i agree.


    if you think bout the generation of players that came through up til murray tapped the banks.


    Good to see you on and keep postin if yi can! popup pending



  17. SFTB



    You’re clarifying everyone’s point. Our so called BEST players started here….and weren’t good enough to progress.


    Can you imagine, following a progressive country’s football ethos, from grassroots to international, how good they could REALLY be?


    With proper refereeing that allows skill, flair and time on the ball without getting whacked by a two bit wannabe, how much BETTER they’d be.


    This country needs to look inwards as to why we don’t make a mark in European and world football. Look to countries like Croatia and learn from them.


    Belgium, no 1 in the world with a population under double ours. Holland, similar, Sweden, Denmark……Croatia

  18. TONTINE TIM on 22ND JUNE 2021 10:51 PM


    Someone on here actually said in the last day or so if we had hired Sieve Clarke instead of Lenny we would have won TIAR. WTF.



    True – someone that managed to take Kilmarnock to 3rd place in SPFL – only one position lower than Lennon’s Celtic managed last season -, first Scottish manager in over 20 years to actually take a team to a Championship finals and highly commended by managers of the status of Mourinho.



    Easy to make inane comments now, but has a track record in management that would have entitled consideration for the Celtic position, although possibly not good enough for the entitled.




    Quality Assessment.👍




  20. TIMHORTON on 22ND JUNE 2021 11:53 PM



    You should read about Modric’s upbringing



    There’s a kids’ book series about top footballers, almost all of them come from deprived or disrupted upbringings. Modric’s childhood was severely disrupted by the Croatian war of independence. He learnt football on his own, in concrete car parks.



    Not to say all pros need to have a tough start but it does seem to help

  21. ERNIE LYNCH on 22ND JUNE 2021 10:44 PM




    The English FA trains and develops Welsh players in her state of the art, money is no object, sports academies, courtesy of the EPL. Wales is England’s bastard child, nothing more nothing less.


    Scotland has a heart of her own even if her subservient lily livered quisling organs have been sold out.


    Is it better to live as a independent Scotland on your feet or die as a north regional cowardly Brit unionist on yer knees?

  22. glendalystonsils on

    CELTIC40ME on 23RD JUNE 2021 12:17 AM



    Concrete car parks ……tenement back courts , there’s maybe something in that .

  23. SFTB,


    Good assessment. The other problem is, even with teams like Chelsea, success is imperative and if you have the money you will buy rather than develop players. A bit of a Catch 22 situation. The days of Man Utd giving Alex Ferguson 5 years to win a trophy and for him to develop that youth squad are long gone. To be honest Alex Ferguson would be sacked nowadays for that performance and the Glazers certainly would not have retained his services.


    There’s probably less chance of us developing our own players now that huns mk II have arrived.

  24. Celtic40me



    You have a point…


    But a few years back my son played in many tournaments in youth football on the continent. While we wanted our boys to win every tackle gung ho style it just wasn’t allowed. Many countries on the continent do NoT allow any tackling until the boys reach 16 years of age. We couldn’t believe when we tackled, even fairly, a foul was given against us. This happened in France, Spain and Belgium. The idea obviously, in these countries, was to allow young footballers time to develop skills and confidence without getting whacked.


    That was 15 years ago. I don’t know if they still do that but I do know that those countries do far better than us on the world stage

  25. You want want to know how “Catholic” Croatia is, well I was going to tell you all to turn the clock back to 1991,


    but no, turn the clock back instead to 1941, and then you really will know how “Catholic” Croatia is.


    And then maybe you can really feel good about yourself.




  26. CARDBOARDCSC on 22ND JUNE 2021 10:36 PM



    I’m sure KG has lived down south for the last 30 years or so, twangs and changes in accent happen, if he talks bollocks say it don’t slag the guy because his accent has changed. I know, I lived abroad for many years, when I came home my mates would slag the absolute shite out of me for my changes in accent. I did love when he said “we are all macs” sounded like we are all micks which was met with resounding silence. HH



    *A renowned U of T linguistic professor once stated that up to the age of 18 it’s possible to lose your accent, after that only if you choose to.



    I’ve been here 46 years and still sound the same as when I lived on the Bonnie Banks.



    Now this place has a lot of ex-pats who worked in industries populated by “brits”, I on the other hand spent my working days in the construction industry full of Italians, Portuguese and Germans; there were times when I was the only English speaker on the job.

  27. Let’s not make excuses for the Celtic board, backroom staff and playing squad who let the fans down at every turn last season.



    Celtic may well have been treated harshly, but the world is very different today than it was 6 months ago.



    Death rates have plummeted with the roll out of the vaccine. This isn’t apples for apples.

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