Question of today, was Doncaster being honest?

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All eyes are on whether or not Neil Doncaster will be asked to step down at the Scottish Premier League annual general meeting, which is underway at the moment, after he threatened to renege on the SPL’s legal obligations to the Scottish Football League.

It may seem obvious that he has to go but don’t be so sure that he will.  Nothing that Doncaster has said previously suggests he will easily be shamed into an act of honour, and several Gang of 10 clubs were behind his attempts to railroad the SFL into doing their dirty work.

The smart money is on him ‘doing an Ogilvie’, refusing to go voluntarily and removing the toxicity he adds to the situation from the body he represents.

In many respects it doesn’t really matter if he stays or goes right now.  If he goes the chances of the SPL recruiting a candidate with the required ability is approaching zero, it is perhaps better that he stays to explain himself.

What I’m more interested in is Doncaster’s predicted Armageddon.  In telling Scottish Football League clubs the SPL would be unable to meet the terms of the Settlement Fee they are due, he implied the top league would be insolvent today.

Question is, was he being honest? That’s a rhetorical question, no need to cast doubts of Mr Doncaster’s character.

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  1. The Battered Bunnet on

    Celtic First

     

     

    Remember the old Deus ex Machina?

     

     

    Didnae work :¬)

  2. The SPL have confirmed their board of directors ahead of the start of 2012/13 season, adding two new faces to replace the outgoing

     

    members. Steve Brown (St Johnstone) and Derek Weir (Motherwell) will be replaced on the SPL board by Duncan Fraser

     

    (Aberdeen) and Michael Johnston (Kilmarnock).

     

    The duo join Eric Riley (Celtic), Stephen Thompson (Dundee United), chief- executive Neil Doncaster and Ralph Topping, who was unanimously re-elected as the non-executive Chairman.

  3. Bhoys before I enjoy the moment why are clowns like Michael Johnston elected to the SPL board ?

  4. Bhoys before I enjoy the moment why is this clown Michael Johnston elected to SPL board ?

     

     

    Surely we need changes with honest men in there.

  5. Jelly And Gelato on

    So who steps meekly aside to give Sevco their place in Div 3? Do Queens Park go up since they finished 2nd?

  6. celt for life on

    Had a quick look at Stanraer fixtures, as these will now become the fixtures of Sevco.

     

    The first clash of home games comes on Sat 1st-Sep when we are due to play Hibs, will the top league always take precedent or is there a chance of our home games being moved away from a Saturday at 3pm? Anyone know?

  7. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Well thats it sorted out for one season at least.I expect to see one or two more players walking out on newco.As has already been pointed out this morning Charles Green will need deep pockets to fund them in Div.3.H.H.

  8. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Celtic_First-Davis and Papac last season were on EBT’s,if every game any of them played is awarded as a 0-3 defeat (which they should) the huns (remember them?) would have finished bottom and Dunfermline 11th.I hope Dundee do come up as i hate Yorkston,but surely sporting integrity……….

  9. Fassreifen - you can't put a price on integrity on

    A bit more ice-cream and jelly tonight, then. Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we diet.

  10. Finn MacCunaill on 16 July, 2012 at

     

     

    13:15 said: What are the chances of our flag game v Aberdeen being changed from Saturday 4th to facilitate TV? Prices of flights are going up and I really need to book. Thanks in advance.

     

     

    Just gambled on this too. I think will most likely KO early on sat 4th for tv

  11. that is all that was wanted, fairness, it took a while but lets hope the rules are now and forever applied on an honest manner which upholds integrity.

     

     

    have to laugh at james taylor ‘sending thems to the third division is correct decision and the one i always thought was right’, what the f*ck is he on about.

     

     

    first thing first, the spl need to get the t.v deal sorted, get to playing some football again, look to introduce the changes offered by spl last week, because i actually think many of the ideas had merit such as the larger league, fairer distribution of t.v. commercial income etc…

     

     

    for the first time in 2 decades decisions about the game can be made for the best of the game, rather than the need to supply t.v with 4 old firm games there is no choice to make everyone knows what needs to happen lets get it done.

     

     

    another thing, i hate when people talk about there not being enough quality teams to make up a 16 team league, it is essential that a league structure consists of v.good, good, avarage and poor teams (reletive to league). the gap between the v. good and good teams can often lessen due to having more avarage and poor teams playing each other. we need a dramatic change asap, clearly we cannot get this done this season, but i do feel plans should be in place to have a 16 team spl next season. it makes sense

  12. “Jabba Jabba Jabba.

     

    Don’t you slabber

     

    It’s a big boys’ world”

     

    Many apologies to all you (j)Abba fanz out there.

  13. ROW Z - Let Celtic Flourish by the Cleansing of the 'den! on

    Right

     

     

    Protest option complete and season ticket renewal back on track. I hope Peter has kept my seat warm!

     

     

    Paul67 Interesting Take – What else might help Celtic ‘flourish’?

     

     

    I would suggest that season renewal is not at the top of the list which should include:

     

     

    Astructural clean out at the SFA

     

     

    Removal of key officials who have failed their governance objectives

     

     

    Removal of ‘hidden’ huns from positions of influence (yes you Darryl)

     

     

    Removal of the current President AND his predecessor

     

     

    Negotiation of TV and sponsorship to be conducted by ‘competent’ practitioners drawn from the meber clubs

     

     

    Ensuring that outstanding matters of investigation and punishment are concluded and enacted

     

     

    Ensuring that the term ‘facilitate’ does not involve ignoring, bending, forgetting, financing or otherwise assisting a shameful, cheating, corrupt and unapologetic ‘institution’ of dubious worth.

     

     

    HH

  14. Celtic_First on 16 July, 2012 at 13:17 said:

     

    By hook or by crook, Rangers finished the season well above Dunfermline. What arguments will they present for being entitled to stay up?

     

     

    The answer is in your question ‘crook’!

     

     

    I suspect that Dunfermline will use the following to ensure that the decision is re-visited, in order that a ‘just’ decsion can be taken when all the facts are known:

     

     

    – Social taxes not paid for season 2011/12 , and the punishment has yet to have been decided by the AT which could involve ‘relegation’ or ‘expulsion’.

     

    – Potential ‘dual contracts’ paid to Messers Davis and Papac, which the SPL lawyers are now stating their is ‘prime facie’ evidence, did this apply to last season?

     

     

    In both of the above cases the football authorities have ‘dragged their feet’ over resolving the above.

     

     

    In the case of the SPL , it allowed non co-operation, from a fellow SPL (Dignity) to go unpunished which resulted in the relevant contractual documentation not being handed over in a timely manner. Even now the investigation has ‘paused’.

     

     

    In the case of the SFA, their re-convening of the AT has ‘just stopped’.

     

     

    The results of either judicial enquiry could have resulted in Dignity being stripped of points gained in season 2011-12 or simply expelled.

     

     

    Dunfermline ought to request the SFA to instigate an independent judicial review of the above matters, to start immediately. If this is not granted then an appeal to the Arbitration for Sport guys ……… either way if Dunfermline go ahead with this then there is sufficient ammo to take both Regan and Doncaster down.

     

     

    The principle of relegation is very important but the SPL need to face up to the fact that the entire league was CHEATED by Dignity and no one else in the league should suffer as a result, Dignity being placed bottom is the least that you would expect.

     

     

    Seems to me that it has all been about ‘RXngers’ and teams like Dunfermline have been treated like co-lateral damage.

     

     

    Comnthefiferscfc

  15. philvisreturns on

    Gordon_J – Some good points, but I’d question the extent to which the government wasting billions of pounds we don’t have on the Olympics is a “private sector failure”.

     

     

    It seems to be the usual public sector failure: politicians splashing cash on politically connected suppliers, a predictable fiasco ensuing, and the taxpayer being expected to pay to bail them out.

     

     

    If this were a genuinely private sector scenario, i.e. people and firms voluntarily spending their own money on goods and services they wanted to buy, rather than politicos diverting other people’s money to a massive political vanity project, there’d be a huge impending lawsuit against G4S and senior people would be out on their ear. Want to bet how many politicians or civil servants will lose their jobs over this? I’m guessing none.

     

     

    Especially good point from you here: “And just how difficult can it be to find staff in a time of high unemployment?”

     

     

    Indeed. Under New Labour, despite Gordon Brown’s “British jobs for British workers” moment of desperation, millions of immigrants poured into Britain and in a not-unrelated move, most of the new jobs created during the Labour years went to immigrants. This was despite us having millions of our own unemployed during the boom years. Even in these troubled times, many firms seem to prefer hiring Eastern Europeans over unemployed British citizens.

     

     

    Why? Is it because our unemployed are lazy and feckless?

     

     

    No, it’s because the benefits system in this country, despite its best intentions, traps people in poverty by providing an alternate lifestyle that is more secure and more financially rewarding than work. The long term unemployed are, sadly, following their own rational self-interest by remaining on the dole rather than striving to get back into paid employment. They can’t be blamed for making rational decisions in their own self interest, but the politicians can be blamed for allowing perverse incentives to continue.

     

     

    We need to fundamentally reform the benefits system to ensure work is always a better option than benefits.

     

     

    Nice retro dig at Margaret Thatcher. She’s been out of office for 22 years now but the haters are still hurt and angry at her success. Mrs T was truly the Jock Stein of politics. (thumbsup)

  16. Tim Malone Will Tell on

    A few random thoughts/questions…

     

     

    Do you think that Bomber maybe got a wee swatch at that Regan e-mail a few weeks ago?

     

     

    Maybe the SFA need to divert a wee bit of that £1 Million corruption slush fund towards Dunfermline to keep them quiet?

     

     

    Could Newco Rangers no just play their first team in the Nexgen competition – they will all be the right age?

     

     

    Should David Cameron come out and proclaim the Sevco decision as a great example of the Big Society actually working?

  17. philvisreturns on

    Tim Malone Will Tell – Should David Cameron come out and proclaim the Sevco decision as a great example of the Big Society actually working?

     

     

    Sevco is more about the Wee Society. (thumbsup)

  18. Amusement.

     

     

    I walked into my local cafe a few days ago. Astounded of forehead to see The Bomber in there with a couple of chums. A baldy mini-convention.

     

     

    Dilemma. Go to the seat right next to them or a nicer sofa seat a little distance off but not in eavesdrop range ?

     

     

    They had already clocked me: tall; handsome; follicly unchallenged and in possession of most of my own teeth.

     

     

    I guess the biggest giveaway was my large green hooded jerkin.

     

     

    So I sat on the sofa.

     

     

    However I did overhear some snippets. Yer man is very passionate about the fans and I give him credit for that. Whyte still seems to be a rank bad yin and blah, blah, blah it was all the stuff he wittered on about to that poorly attended gathering of like minded ones in some hotel recently.

     

     

    Umbro got a mention and this got me thinking that a new kit could be a good money spinner for their troubled times ahead. That is, if you can persuade the troops that YOU are the real Gers.

     

     

    Not that I care one way or another. I who can easily afford to buy all the towels I require scoffs at their grubbing in the dirt.

     

     

    On leaving the cafe I nearly bumped into yet another baldy dude.

     

    He had that red and white vertical striped top on, and I had failed to notice before just how horrible that red-bib-on-the-back design really is.

     

     

    Baldy hun day.

     

     

    pigalle WhoThinksDivisionThreeIsTooGoodForThemCSC

  19. Standin at the bar mindin ma ain business n wan ae the usual bettin crowd approached me.

     

    “Right Threesy” he says, “You’re a golfer, any tips fur ra Open?”

     

    “No really” says me, “They’re aw as bad as each other”

     

    “Ah wiz gonny put a tensy oan Tiger Woods” says he

     

    “Well named” says me, “Canny hit the ba’ straight. He’s never oot them.

     

    “Ok “ he says, “Stewart Cink”

     

    “Money doon the drain” ah says

     

    “Right” he says, “Whit aboot Lawrie?”

     

    “Always breakin doon” ah said

     

    “Vijay Singh?”

     

    “Aff tune”

     

    “Richard Sterne?”

     

    “Takes it too seriously”

     

    “John Huh?”

     

    “Too moody”

     

    “Simon Dyson?”

     

    “He sucks”

     

    “Stephen Ames?”

     

    “….shoots n misses”

     

    “Simon Khan?”

     

    “Naw he canny”

     

    “Bill Haas?”

     

    “Naw he hizny”

     

    “Thomas Aiken?”

     

    “Always injured”

     

    “Ricky Fowler?”

     

    “Dirty Bassa”

     

     

    “You’re nae help at aw”

     

     

    “Whit dye mean?”

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