I know you don’t need to rehearse the Resolution 12 debate as you’ll know it instinctively now, but, as always, we are indebted to eyes outside of Scotland calling for insight and governance in the Scottish game on an issue only tangentially related.
Yesterday, The Offshore Game, ran a report that the SFA may have misled the Lord Nimmo Smith Commission inquiry into Rangers failure to register players on an industrial scale during their EBT years.
While the SFA were swatting away questions into how Rangers were cleared to participate in Uefa competitions in 2011, less than a year before disappearing into insolvency, chief operating officer, Andrew McKinlay inadvertently turned the spotlight on the reliability of evidence placed before Lord Nimmo Smith.
Questions around the awarding of Rangers Uefa licence in 2011 were asked in the dark as no one outside the club, SFA and Uefa knew what information had been submitted, and the SFA didn’t know what the club submitted to Uefa.
There was a belief that the club may have not disclosed a letter concerning the Wee Tax Case from HMRC to the SFA in 2011. Mr McKinlay wrote to the requisitioners saying that he “did not accept that” this information was not brought to the SFA’s attention in 2011 – two years before Nimmo Smith sat.
This assertion tidied up the Res 12 issue at Hampden, but as The Offshore Game makes clear, why on earth did the SFA’s evidence to Lord Nimmo Smith on the Wee Tax Case not reflect the correspondence they had on file? In short, it was accepted by all that schemes scrutinised by the Wee Tax Case were unlawful.
Nimmo Smith didn’t hear this, in fact, he heard was that Rangers tax schemes were legal, and concluded, therefore, as any other club could have used them, no sporting advantage was accrued.
The Offshore Game call for scrutiny of the SFA over this by the parliamentary Culture, Media and Sport select committee. This call will be magnified should the Supreme Court uphold HMRC’s position on the Big Tax Case.
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Bada..,
Yer right £20M is too cheap.
Just going through the 2000 – 2010 opposition teams :)
There’s a few names in here I’m sure I recognise from lists of clubs denied license, wish I’d thought of this before, a wee bit of fun to be had :)
Part of this suggestion has been plagiarised ;-)
When JPT has his first meeting with CQN why not ask him the following question?
What is the chance of Celtic FC establishing a fan zone next to Celtic park roughly based on Strobels in Dortmund which is attached to BvB’s Signal Iduna stadium? I’ve been there on several occasions and I know one or two other CQN’rs have also been there. It is a fantastic establishment which also plays host to visiting fans, obviously there would have to be an exclusion for a certain team.
http://www.strobels-dortmund.de
Lambert 14
If old Gers had told the truth a licence would not have been granted based on a similar case in 2013 and certainly their submission to UEFA of June 2011 would not have been verbally accepted by UEFA in September 2011 , when UEFA saw it, if it admitted that an overdue payable existed under the rules. That is not what UEFA were told.
By then they were out of both UEFA competitions so could not be ejected anyway but could have been sanctioned in the next season had they been able to get a licence which they couldn’t having no ratified accounts for 2010/11.
In the event they went into administration then liquidation and so were ineligible to play in Europe had they qualified on sporting merit until they had been members of the SFA for three years under Article 12 of UEFA FFP.
Yup it’s complicated.
Joey gets a one match ban
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on 17th November 2016 3:09 pm
WEEMAN67
IS THIS A SCAM???
I would say it is a spoof……….
Thank you to all the Requisitioners. You are doing great.
We need to keep chipping away, day by day on all fronts.
I cannot see how Celtic will not take this forward.
If they do not they are insulting us all.
Ultimately , I cannot see how res.12 can fail.
The facts are as plain as the nose on your face.
Next up LNS
I believe HMRC will win at the final tribunal.
No option but to set LNS aside as it is based on a false premise.
New enquiry.
Titles stripped.
Again Celtic must lead this.
Again, if not they insult us again.
I hope and pray for us, deceased supporters and future supporters this is how it unfolds.
If not football probably won’t be the same again.
We were systematically cheated, by a corrupt club and a corrupt association .
Canamalar, Morrisey, Auldheid, BRTH…. keep on keeping
HH
TET from where??
Hebcelt
The sfa for gambling
HH
THOMTHETHIM FOR OSCAR OK on 17TH NOVEMBER 2016 1:01 PM
Gearoid1998,
Did I not see the award winning David Conn dip his toe in last week.
I think he had previously stated that once the Hillsborough business was concluded, he would focus on Res12 et al.
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The excellent David Conn and Owen Gibson have both suggested they would like to get involved but are too busy with other stories.
They have been dealing with Hillsborough, UEFA, FIFA, The Qatar World Cup etc.
However, I wouldn’t trust the Guardian to do a thing. The editorial desk do not want anything to do with this and made up lies to avoid printing the Res 12 ad.
Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession
Red Star Belgrade have definitely been denied a license under FFP rules…
AULDHEID AND VFR800@GIRFUY.CO.UK
Thanks for replying.
Very much appreciated.
The work you have done on this is simply amazing, Auldheid.
SFA disciplinary hearing wrt Joey:
Disciplinary outcome | Joseph Barton
Thursday, 17 November 2016
A Disciplinary Tribunal convened today in accordance with the Judicial Panel Protocol to consider the following case:
Alleged Party in Breach: Joseph Barton
Disciplinary Rule allegedly breached:
Disciplinary Rule 31: In that between 1st July and 15th September 2016, both dates inclusive, you placed 44 bets upon football matches, and accordingly gambled upon football matches in contravention of Disciplinary Rule 31.
Outcome: Breach admitted
Sanction: One-match immediate suspension
TET yup I understand what for but he has a 1 game ban from what – playing football worldwide, in Scotland how exactly is it applied, not getting at you but the whole thing is a farce. H H Hebcelt
POGMATHONYAHUN AKA LAIRD OF THE SMILES on 17th November 2016 3:19 pm
The stadium, fan experience and safety at other stadiums is week 2; e-mail the question to competition@celticquicknews.co.uk and it will. I’m sure, be raised next week.
Get in early as I am sure ALMORE will have about 200 café questions submitted over the next few days!
KTF
HEBCELT on 17th November 2016 3:33 pm
Suspension should carry over to his next association when the SFA transfer his registration.
KTF
Davido…,
very interesting, the Hun beat them 1-0 in the CL in season 2007/08 to progress to Europa cup competition and their historic Mancherster final :)
Good man
BT will do .
VFR ok thanks but I notice you say should not will although personally I don’t care was just curious. H H Hebcelt
Can Joey not appeal the ban and get it reduced?
Ahahahahahahah!
VFR800@GIRFUY.CO.UK
E-mail sent :-)
LMCBHOY on 17TH NOVEMBER 2016 2:21 PM
Kill Ultra
Been reading back and hope the metaphorical grenade you have posted is worth all the apparent abuse you have thrown about since early this morning, you are certainly wound up!!!
HH
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That’s me relaxed… :)
HEBCELT on 17th November 2016 3:47 pm
For any other association I would have said WOULD, but this is the SFA, so I said SHOULD!
POGMATHONYAHUN AKA LAIRD OF THE SMILES on 17th November 2016 3:49 pm
Hopefully you got it in before ALMORE floods it!
KTF
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 17TH NOVEMBER 2016 2:21 PM
KIl Ultra
Does that mean you are not going to respond to my questions?
No problem if you don’t and prefer to write to PL instead, though with respect, what you will get from PL is PL’s position and not necessarily my own, and the two may very well be capable of different interpretations and come from different states of knowledge depending on what is asked.
Either way, hopefully, you will get a reply that helps.
BRTH
In the interest of fairness, I’d hoped that if Peter Lawwell intends to address with you the issues I have raised, he should show the letter. I have no problem with that.
LNS case should be revisited . They should be stripped of all the titles they achieved while cheating . in all other sports where cheating has been proven , the cheats are stripped of their honours . All the clubs who lost out financially through lost European competition , lost cup progression prise money should be compensated ,
BRTH,
It’ll be, thanks for your letter “.”
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If that’s the case, I’ll distribute the letter to a selected few on here. We’ll see what they think.
Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession
There was a time when the deidclub got their comeuppance against another now-defunct club….Unirea Urziceni….
I guess they could cry foul about each other lol…
Kill Ultra
Well I wouldnt like to see you with your dander up lol
HH
Ive had severe probs with Virgin recently. All sorted now I hope and pray.
Long time lurker,so I thought I would give it a go
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on 17th November 2016 3:58 pm
Ive had severe probs with Virgin recently. All sorted now I hope and pray.
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Oo err missus!
bennyhill CSC
KTF
Well that’ll be Laurie Ross in the Huns naughty corner.
How dare they offer a Lisbon Lions 50th Anniversary Book ( signed by Bertie) & DVD as a reward for taking out a policy.
Just what is this country coming to.
HH.
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/
Those teenage years can be a nightmare…
kill ultra on 17th November 2016 3:52 pm
Yes I would hope that if anyone receives a letter which in any way concerns the actions, status or activity of someone I would hope that they have the decency, manners and business sense to consult with the person involved before replying.
That would make sense.
I still don’t get what all this is about so am completely confused but I dare say what will be will be.
If you want to know anything of me personally just ask and I will do my best to give you a straight reply.
To other things:
One of the questions that was fired FAO JPT was whether or not PL was misled by Regan as to the date of the granting of the licence.
Beware here of the difference between the SFA saying the licence was granted AS OF 30th March and ON 30th March as those two have a subtle difference in meaning.
I would point out that the Res 12 folk do not have copies of the correspondence between the SFA and Celtic. We have been allowed to read it in the past but not to retain copies lest those copies find themselves in the public domain.
fairhill bhoy
Welcome aboard.
Well…are you???
VFR800
Didnt take latin ????
Jimtim- they put a ‘Lord’ in charge of the LNS charade, to try and make it look legal, binding and the end of the matter.Guys lied openly , knowing there was no legal comeback, perjury etc.I think LNS is the only matter that the Celtic Board commented publicly on.Time to have the whitewash exposed, HH
Dont feed the troll, Bhoys
Can the Res 12 guys please state their mothers Maidens name and the name of their first pet? It’s only fair they disclose everything. We have a right to know!
:-)