You wonder if Ally McCoist rues the day he called for the public outing of members of the SFA Judicial Panel which imposed a player registration ban on his club. One judge, one journalist and one football club, Raith Rovers, were soon outed. Crossing the Fifers was a mistake.
Raith Rovers are now pointing out the same facts we have discussed here for months:
“We are also concerned that there has not as yet been an opportunity for clubs to receive legal advice from the SFL and/or debate the potential consequences on the smooth running of our league in the event that the Courts are asked to annull/strike down any of the corporate transactions that have led to the current position of Sevco Scotland Ltd as owners of certain assets of the Rangers oldco.
“Indeed, the position as regards the potential sanctions to be applied by the Scottish FA via its Appellate Tribunal has also still to be bottomed out.”
In short, Sevco’s ownership of Ibrox may be nullified by the courts and the SFA will be forced to subvert judicial oversight if it wants to guarantee Sevco participate in football next season.
While these concerns were only expressed online, the SFA were able to ignore the issue, but with Raith Rovers asking the questions Mr Regan will have to look SFL clubs in the eye and tell them what he’s going to do with Lord Carloway.
Lurgan 53
Dwyer O’Hagan, or Lurgan 53 as he was known here, passed away on Wednesday after an illness stretching back to last year. Dwyer enjoyed our triumphs and defeats on the blog for many years and will be sadly missed by us all. Our condolences to his family and friends.
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RIP Dwyer.
Was supposed to hook up with him in Jury’s hotel where we were both staying the night before the Glasgow derby a couple of New Years ago. My train from NW England was long delayed due to snow and it was near midnight when I arrived so the meet didn’t happen.
Very sad to read of his passing.
A fine CQN’r and by all accounts a fine, fine man.
Thoughts with those he loved and those who loved him at this dreadful time.
You’ll never walk alone Lurgan53.
SwanseaBhoy
c’mon the Polish lady
one set each
Just when I thought the epitome of dope-fuelled women’s tennis was going to get away with it again,Radwanska takes a set!
Go,Poland,go!
lionroars67:
“It ill serves the BBC to allow Traynor to conduct a personal witchunt on Turnbull at Raith Rovers this red-top PR fed hack regularly breaks the charter of the BBC with his cowardly aggressive personal attacks on people who are not in the studio to defend themselves”
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You got THAT spot on!
HH!
Thai Tim on 7 July, 2012 at 15:40 said:
I have always felt the assets should have been sold to pay the creditors, and that sevco wouldn’t have a stadium……from what you are saying, the Liquidators will retrieve the assets through the courts……the gift that keeps on giving…
Jabba confirmed something I posted this morning ………. Sevco don’t even have a membership certificate for the Scottish Football League, which bars them from even ‘applying’ for a place in any league, let alone SFL Division 3 …..what’s your take on that..???
Paul67,
It is very impressive that Scottish Football is standing up to the propaganda and I sincerely hope that all these smaller clubs are empowered to finish off the Gigantic Cheats.
I disagree with your vision of the future about us joining the lower English Leagues, I would not be aversed to it but I feel we have to Stay and build the Scottish game up again. I will be honest, I love being the underdog and beating All the odds. Our game was healthy prior to the financial dopers ruining the Scottish game.
You, more than anyone else, will know how well we have done in the market recently without spending any serious money and I am sure the fruits of this labour is still to be realised. Celtic are so progressive in so many ways, I would feel very uncomfortable about going into that setup (Top League) where we would be paying players £100000+ to make up the first team. It doesn’t quite sit right.
All Scottish Football fans are sick of Sky and their pathetic attitude towards Scottish Football. Scotland is a nation that loves football and that should never be forgotten, we have hit the bottom because the Cheats we are allowed to prosper. Scotland has said No in so many ways and it is now time to rebuild it back to where it really should be, Celtic will be the guiding light in this process.
Keep up the superb work.
Hail Hail
I’m supporting the yank ……c’mon Selina…!!!
Auld Neil Lennon heid on 7 July, 2012 at 15:41 said:
When Jihn Reid said those days have gone I’ll bet he never fully realised why.
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2010 Never Again
I think he had a fair idea
Mary,Queen of the Gael,protect Dwyer O’Hagan.
Rest in peace 53
UC
Dwyer O’Hagan (Lurgan 53):
Never had the privilege of meeting you my friend in Celtic. However, we did exchange the odd posts over our views, I do not recall having differing views.
You may not have been on earth as long as the club that existed between 1872-2012. However, they went before you, damned as being the most bigoted football club in the history of our game. Your passing will affect many who will miss you but they will be consoled by the memories you gave them and by those who shared them.
You are in a better place now, I’m sure of that. May God Bless your Soul, your family and friends.
Rest in Peace my Celtic Brother…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Thai Tim on 7 July, 2012 at 15:40 said:
The key function of the liquidator, in terms of the Insolvency Act 1986 section 143(1), is to “secure that the assets of the company are got in, realised and redistributed to the company’s creditors”. As you indicate, if there has been any transfer of the assets of RFC(IA), such transfer may be challenged by the liquidator. At present, therefore, Sevco faces the very real prospect of being without a training ground or a place to play. How can the SFL be asked to make any decision on admitting them under these circumstances?
we are = were
Petec..
Agree with you…….we must stay in Scotland…….
When Regan mentioned “social unrest” it was a threat to the SFL what he really meant was they are to be treated differently to anyone else. Like the banks are they also too big to fail because they are part of the fabric of Scottish society and even if they cheated the society that gave them succour we must accommodate them.
What does it say for our society when we must accommodate cheats and bully boys at the expense of integrity?
I believe in the 1930s Germany people in political authority felt compelled to vote yes to things they did not like or agree with National Socialism because of fear and intimidation.
Has anyone asked Regan was he basing his social unrest theory on the oldcos previous across Europe and the UK or was it a carefully planned rhetoric to alarm and strike fear into anyone who votes no
While we wait on the SFL outcome I hope they do not forget that old phrase never truer than it is today ‘the only thing we have to fear is fear itself’ when the cast their vote
SASSENACH 1535
Brilliant,lol!
I never really had too many problems as a Tim in Kilwinning,which is probably down to the fact that my Papa on my Mum’s side had a great deal of respect,and that my Dad-who was an interlowper-gained nearly as much over the years.
I just complained about my pals going to the school round the corner and being back home to play football before me!
All I added to that was a decent sense of humour,a strong left foot when needed,and a guid pair of trainers when they didnae work.
Monaghan1900 on 7 July, 2012 at 16:08 said:
CORRECT ……..why are the SFA ignoring this fact
Lubo on 7 July, 2012 at 15:44 said:
certainly up there to be outed are the likes of jabba (who was totally flattened by cosgrove during the week) and his ilk…………they have been totally complicit in this whole fiasco. From the public demeaning of NL to the current rescue plans of whatever theyre called now
regan
doncaster
longmuir
jabba
kevins
a mate has just texted to say mcoink was seen at the stirling bigotfest
kevins=keevins
lionroars67 on 7 July, 2012 at 15:53 said:
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Thanks to Paul/CQN, Phil and RTC, we all know the rules, hurdles, punishment that should be applied to the old and newco. But for once we have a senior person in Mr Hutton bringing these issues out into the open, jabba knows this could be a large spanner in the works for newco, apply the rules and no newco anywhere.
His attack was the act of a coward.
HH
With armaggedon coming if Newco are out of the SPL for any more than 1 season, and it looking possible they will be shoehorned into SFL 1.
What provisions have been put in place to ensure they win it
celtic dawn
Dallass’s laddie is a grade one ref!!
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
Did you ever go to the old Metro in Saltcoats (quality name for a place hehe).
When I was just a nipper I headed down there Religiously every week to the dance club. It was at the time of their false 9 in a row. ;)
The Polish girl’s first name is Agnes.
Same as my Mum!
petec on 7 July, 2012 at 16:18
Joe Deacon @ The Metro,,,,,,,,,
As Jabba hauls his fat down the sodden streets the cold wind of truth whispers in his mind,”You are lost…you are lost..” His bloated greed demands that his addiction is fed,so he calls his companion in corpulence,Dark Mingwall,and they conspire to slope off to the nearest fast-food fat emporium where they can slake their desires with heart attack inducing morsels until their greed satisfied, they belch hideous lies and compose paeans of sleekit praise to each other in order to give comfort to the collective morons who will always provide them with the means to spout their bigoted vomit until the day they choke from the force of their rabid regurgitations.
brendan-behan on 7 July, 2012 at 16:21 said:
petec on 7 July, 2012 at 16:18
Joe Deacon @ The Metro,,,,,,,,,
“Unbelievable Un fecking Believable ”
That place was mental
H.H
celtic dawn on 7 July, 2012 at 16:15 said:
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Steve Pressley also commented on this. Saying the SFA will find a mechanism to project the newco into the SPL even if they finished 5th. Really good interview from Pressley, liked him playing for us and have now forgiven him for the defeat at Caley.
Even if they do get in to the SFA1, I do not think Falkirk and the others will be pushovers, watch out for another chapter of the honest mistake.
HH
last saw Joe over Breakfast in Seville 22nd May 2003
I just want to join with Paul and all CQNers in expressing my sympathy and condolences to Dwyers family and friends.
fifa statement today says the goal line technology casnnot work inn scotland as its impossible to set it up for moving goalposts
67Heaven,
I love Celtic and I have been really heartened by fellow Scots fans and their ability to see through all the bullpoo in the press.
TBB posted a while ago that the level of Pro Youth player was going up big style and it is all set for a genuine recovery across the board.
Ogilvie, Regan and Doncaster will be forced out and the game here will start a good recovery.
We Must get all the current flavour of the month referees out as well. They are totally untrustworthy. And let the genuine refs flourish, Steven (no ph as well) Craven would be in there because he has Real integrity. Scottish football on All levels has been subverted by Cheaters. Where are we now in the FIFA rankings?
Thanks for the link to the memorial mass for Lurgan53, its been a long time since I celebrated mass.
RIP Lurgan53.
Palacio, Philbhoy. It will certantly be an interesting league if Newco are sitting 4th with 5 games to go.
Why are these two Englishmen behaving in this way? What’s in it for them? You could understand if it was a couple of dyed in the wool supporters of the deid club.
Paul67
The RR statement is interesting in that it basically asks why are SFL clubs being asked to vote when there are outstanding issues for the SFA to address that could affect Newco’s future.
One issue the RR statement does not mention is that of the SFA granting Newco/Sevco membership of the SFA.
Now those application papers were handed in last week and no doubt will be used by SFA to reach a decision —- or will they?
One of the points to come out of the CST exchange with the SPL and SFA was that membership of the SFA is AUTOMATICALLY granted to a club that the SPL agree membership to (hence Sevco having to apply separately in case the SPL voted against as it did).
Now if the same automatic granting applies to a club given SFL membership, and it would be odd if it did not, then is this vote on 13th the SFA’s justification for automatically granting a membership when they could not do so under their own process?
If so then all SFL clubs should insist on the SFA making a membership decision BEFORE they are asked to vote and if the SFA say “yes” the SFL clubs should know on what basis.
Maybe RR should add this to their list of points the SFA need to clear up before the 13th?
ElDiegoBhoy on 7 July, 2012 at 16:33 said:
Strategically placed puppets of the long game, the Old Guard are still pulling the string and Oldco dying means absolutely nothing until we have a root and branch clear out of the SFA and a total rethink about the game, sponsorship and the future of Scottish Football.
Regardless of Sevco kick a ball or not this season I doubt we will see any major change in the standard of refereeing for instance, I’m sure we will still be subject to many Honest Mistakes a lot of peoples noses are going to be out of joint after the death of oldco…
SP
brendan-behan on 7 July, 2012 at 16:21
Joe couldnae mix to save himself but he did drop all the right sonics for the crowd in attendance. Billy Reid was the other resident, anyone knowif he was a tim?
ftsfa cqn BAMPOT on 7 July, 2012 at 16:26
It was a bit mad in there. ;)
My favourite night was when Dave Angel took his own unique brand of intelligent techno in there. The crowd didn’t know if it was New Year or New Yorker. :))
Im not saying Jim Traynor is fat…..
But…
I once bumped into him in Sauchiehall St, so what you say.
Well I was in Argyle St at the time!!
He’s massive.