It’s less than four days since the SFA, SPL and SFL chief executives met at Hampden to devise a plan to destroy and rebuild Scottish football within three weeks, coincidentally, allowing a Newco access to the second tier of the Scottish league pyramid.
Just as the SPL clubs rejected Neil Doncaster’s strong advocacy that they co-opt Newco directly into the top tier, Scottish Football League clubs are already showing an unwillingness to be boxed into a corner.
Before today’s meeting of the SFL board Raith Rovers have already pinned their colours to the mast, “the board of directors of Raith Rovers FC is unanimous in its view that we shall certainly not cast our vote in favour of any integrated plan that in our view compromises sporting integrity by involving the admission of any ‘Newco’ directly into Division One”.
Earlier this year Raith were caused considerable cost and inconvenience after Rangers manager, Ally McCoist, publicly demanded to know the identities of the SFA Judicial Panel who penalised the club for not paying social taxes. Rangers already knew that a Rovers director was on the panel.
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Lithybhoy
You should have asked for one of em ole Old Firm tickets instead of a Celtic one.
Im also sure of you want to see them that much Duff and Fudder would be happy to sell you an x-Rangers ticket right now.
MWD
I’d say Charlie Green is sick that 5x SPL chairmen have declared in advance of the vote that they will not admit the NewCo to the SPL.
I mean, had no-one had declared their hand, he could have used the next 8 days to drum up interest in season tickets.
If a hun wouldnt put his hand in his pocket to save the club, what chance they’ll buy a £400 season ticket to watch a team resembling their dead club playing in a lower division, if they get to play at all next year?
None. And that’s one reason why Charlie-b(h)oy seems a bit depsondent.
riddance even
The Glasgow Gurners F.C. 2012, soon to apply for entry to a Sunday league,somewhere,anywhere…..please?
sgd.
C. Green (chancer)
Is anybody watching SSN now, the name of the show is Euro 2012 report. Two mins on semis, last 20 mins in England. Why bother…. oh and by the way I am not anti English.
PS – well done to the clubs who are voting no to Sevco.
Silver City 1888 on 26 June, 2012 at 12:40 said:
Forster deal appears to be still possible. Matt McGlone just tweeted that it’s only periferal stuff that needs working on.
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I hope they are discussing how to come out for across ball!
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 26 June, 2012 at 13:19 said:
‘Ernie…,
Agree a £2M transfer fee ?’
We agreed to the option ie no commitment on our part. We could have walked away if he hadn’t developed the way we hoped.
Not sure how much security that gave FF.
Mort: “Would it surprise anyone if Celtic were holding out a couple of weeks so as to save money on wages during the summer?”
Good point!
Charles Green
IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME.
But then again – No they wullny
MWD
MWD – he can get one for the princely sum of a second hand pair of Slazenger socks
BigChipsUK- re. mcGregor? Cannot see that signing taking place. Ever. He looked a decent keeper until last season when he made several mistakes for club and country. Is he not known for anti-Celtic rhetoric? Maybe mistaking him with those who have gone before.
To be fair to Oldco, they seemed to have the knack of having much better goalies than we usually did with the exception of Boruc.
Lithybhoy,
Sorry to tell you but rangers are dead, they’ll never be back. Old firm supporters seem to be in greater denial than ex rangers fans.
PS Another poster had the exact same argument as you the other day. Lasted two minutes, swore at everybody and was never seen again. Remember there is no swearing on the blog.
tomthelennytim
:-))))
MWD
Mort on 26 June, 2012 at 13:14 said:
I think the agreed deal of £2m is only valid till the end of June. That doesn’t leave us with much time…
Thanks Mort.
Fair points only I’m sure, like me, that your non-Celtic mates are suggesting a more financially motivated agenda.
I can understand Lithybhoy’s sentiment.
When the fixture list for 2012/13 was released, EVERYONE immediately looked for Celtic v Club 12 fixtures.
For the last ‘x’ number of years, it’s the first fixture we look for. We try work out permutations, and how tricky our games are before and after etc.
I’m glad they’re dead, but I’m gonna miss the Glasgow Derby.
Big Forster should be told to beat it.
A solid big goalie who sadly only pulled on the Celtic jersey through reluctance, with his heart set on playing in England.
Why we waste time on him when we already let the quality Croation keeper, Stipe Unspellablerightnow, slip away last summer is pretty irritating.
Are we supposed to celebrate if he turns round with a shrug and declares ‘Oh well, I suppose I’ll play for you one more season’ if another of his English hopes slips away?
Come on, Lenny, enough is enough.
Meanwhile, FF on meltdown alert as they try and get Alex Thomson sacked from C4 just becasue he carrie da link to that gif of Greig’s statue walking away from Mordor.
They are mortally offended in their hundreds over there. It’s like someone sabotaged the doms doon the boolin’ club.
The people of Scotland think otherwise…
Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond believes Rangers’ survival is crucial for rivals Celtic and the rest of Scottish football to prosper
Salmond was responding to the financial crisis engulfing the Scottish champions after they went into administration on Tuesday.
The Ibrox club were forced to call in administrators Duff and Phelps over an unpaid tax bill of £9million, accrued since Craig Whyte’s takeover in May.
Salmond told Sir David Frost, in an interview to be broadcast on Frost over the World on Al Jazeera English: “Obviously HMRC have got to pursue, in the public interest, taxation.
“Equally, they’ve got to have cognisance of the fact that we’re talking about a huge institution, part of the fabric of the Scottish nation, as well as Scottish football, and everybody realises that.
“The most die-hard Celtic supporter understands that Celtic can’t prosper unless Rangers are there.
“The rest of the clubs understand that as well. Therefore you have to have cognisance of these things when you’re pursuing public policy.
“We’ve certainly been arguing to HMRC on one hand, and indeed to Rangers, to for goodness sake get a settlement, get a settlement and a structure over time whereby Rangers can continue because Rangers must continue for the future of Scottish football and for the fabric of the country.”
Speaking about Rangers during a visit to Scotland, Prime Minister David Cameron told the BBC: “I want that club to survive and to thrive.
“It has an extraordinary history. It has a very special place in many people’s hearts in Scotland and no-one wants to see that club disappear.
“So I hope that HMRC will work as closely as they can with the administrators to try to solve the problems, to try to resolve the issues.”
The trouble with McGregor is the baggage that goes with him.
He does not appear to be a bigot but his extra curricular activities are bad for publicity and his reputation I think is the reason why no clubs in England are interested.
It’s the whole package these days.
Ernie…,
Honestly couldn’t give a monkeys about his security, the opportunity for European first team football is there for him and he’ stalling, though I like Morts last suggestion
Before a pedant leaps on my post (like anyone reads them anyway), I meant that the Celtic v Rangers game, not Celtic v Club 12 game, is the first one on the fixture list we look for.
optimistic soldier
A pedant might point to problems with your choice of verb tense there.
Lithybhoy
Celtic will have considered the impact having no Rangers in the SPL will have on the club’s finances but allow me to address a couple of your other points.
We have a great opportunity to qualify for the Champions League this season and every player who signs for Celtic or who has signed recently has stated that one of the reasons they joined celtic was to play Champions League football. I don’t recall any saying that they signed due to games against Rangers but I might be wrong. In any case games in the Champions League against top quality opposition will more than compensate for not having any Rangers to play.
Similarly from a fans point of view. For far too long, clubs in the SPL have been interested only in self perservation but without Rangers many may feel they have a better chance of qualifying for Europe or at least finishing higher up in the league and who knows, the quality of football may improve and over time these clubs can improve to provide a decent challenge to Celtic.
Mort
lithybhoy…back to RM with you…clown…(oh, and if you’re not a bhun…you should be)
bbg
lithybhoy/optimistic little soldier,
i am quite happy that i will never see another game against the dead huns ,
and hopefully it will be a long time before i have to watch any reincarnation of them play at Celtic Park
Celtic have rejected the claim made by Alex Salmond, Scotland’s first minister, that the survival of Rangers is crucial for the Parkhead side and the rest of Scottish football to prosper.
Salmond, the Scottish National Party MSP for Aberdeenshire East was responding to the financial crisis engulfing the Scottish champions after they went into administration on Tuesday. The Ibrox club were forced to call in administrators Duff and Phelps over an unpaid tax bill of £9m, accrued since Craig Whyte’s takeover in May.
Celtic’s chief executive, Peter Lawwell, had earlier this week claimed the Hoops could survive and thrive without Rangers, and a statement released on Thursday on Celtic’s official Twitter site read: “We are very disappointed with the first minister’s claims that Celtic ‘need’ Rangers and that Celtic ‘can’t prosper unless Rangers are there’.
“This is simply not true. In a series of interviews given just three days ago, we made it abundantly clear that Celtic has a well defined strategy and a business plan independent of the fortunes of any other club. That remains absolutely the case.
“The predicament of Rangers is clearly a serious and complex matter with a whole range of possible outcomes.
“However, we are extremely well qualified to make our own position clear and have no wish to see that being misrepresented for political reasons.”
optimistic little soldier on 26 June, 2012 at 13:29 said:
I am a pedant but I have no desire to leap on your post.
Lithybhoy is entitled to his opinion.
Snake Plissken on 26 June, 2012 at 13:09 said:
Its a joke isn’t it!!!
Jackson seems to think we are all daft!!!
Hail hail
Long time board critic, but I reckon that they have got this right and I feel that the fans of the other SPL clubs have done themselves proud. I never expected “the rest” of the SPL clubs to stand up the way they have done. So fair do’s to them. If Celtic were for example the first club to state their intention, then it would be interpreted by everyone , particularly the MSM as a straightforward Celtic v Rangers issue. The way it has panned out it is now the rest of Scotland v newco issue. We have all seen the MSM paint our club as bad as them in relation to bigotry and violence, yet we all know it isn’t true. Maybe some of the other clubs have realised this, even so.
I also think that the CSA statement about bhoycotts also help persuade chairmen that NEWCO was not the way back into the SPL
Celtic will vote correctly when the day comes and in fact the decision way even be unanimous, or perhaps the likes of Killie will abstain. When I say unanimous I mean every club except the old huns, but I can’t for the life of me understand why the old huns have a vote on the new huns future.
The old boys club who run the SFA and the SPL and who tried to rig the rules should be ashamed. I can’t see either Neil Doncaster nor Stewart Regan having a future in this league. Their impartiality is on a par with Campbell Ogilvie. Time to get your jackets on and go home. P45 in the post.
The MSM who also tried to sell the idea that Scottish fitba would be dead if the huns died, and who totally ignored what has been going on at Ibrox for years should be ashamed, not only where they about a year late in accepting the biggest story in Scottish football, they totally misjudged the feeling of fans in Scotland, once it was out in the open. Hugh Keevins is today still spouting that the game will be financially poorer without Rangers presence. It probably will be Hugh, but unfortunately it was a Hobsons choice situation, the lesser of two evils had to be selected. Allowing a debt free newco back in to dominate at least 10 of the other 11 clubs was never an option Hugh.
In the pre internet age, I reckon that half of Rangers troubles would not have been “uncovered”. The MSM, the SFA and the SPL would have seen to that. Up to about one week ago, they still were.
The huns themselves are a bewildering lot. Their arrogance, lack of contrition and denial of the obvious has been a characteristic throughout this. We arra peepil right enuff.
Their hatred of all things Craig White (is that rhyming slang?)fails to recognise that if it was not Craig Whyte who would lead the huns to their fate, then it would be AN other, because it had to be done. Even the Billionaire big time Rangers fan Jim McColl was not willing to pay what was owed and save the club.
I still can’t comprehend the MSM mantra, that its only the rangers fans that are suffering. They fail to recognise that fans from every club in Scotland suffered instead for years, when players such as Jelavic, who they couldn’t afford played against them. The rangers fans had their fun when they won games that they shouldn’t have. Now the bill is here and they cant pay. Its strange to think that if the apparent 250,000 bluenoses who set upon Manchester just a few years had each paid £24 each, they could have bought the assets of Rangers instead of Charles Green. They cant be suffering that much if they cant put their hands in their pockets. Serves them right for ignoring their debt situation for decades.
2012 will be remembered for a very long time, Im glad it happened on Neil Lennons watch.
optimistic little soldier on 26 June, 2012 at 13:29 said:
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Em…..not necessarily. I tend to look forward to the European matches….because,there,we don’t have to worry about youngsters gettin’ chibbed,maimed,or god forbid,murdered by a baying mob of imbecilic,fascist neds.
So,no,I will not miss those games. It was always like watchin’ a horror film. You don’t want to see it,but you feel you have to.
And in the end the game in Scotland will be better for the absence of rfc (dead).
A nightmare soon fades from the memory. So will they.
So,cheer up! HH!
People bemoaning the missing ‘derby’ should go and have a look at a sublime piece of skill by Gary Mackay-Stevens in a ICT v Dundee United match and have a think about what it would be like to allow our players to express themselves in such a manner without the fear of dropping ‘that point’.
Remember that goal by Regi Blinker v Aberdeen at ‘todders where Big Morten pinged it over from the right flank, kicking with his left foot from behind his right? That’s the kind of shizz that players can and indeed do preform in training.
Imagine the pressure of not dropping ‘that point’ being lifted from our players shoulders?
How good will it be?
*perform
Anyone else think that SevCo might get caught on the straight by Grieve Obit?
Jackson has no integrity -he is only concerned about his own skin – mind you he writes for a rag not fit to be tomorrow’s chip wrapper
musters on 26 June, 2012 at 12:22 said:
Hi – can anyone explain/justify Celtic’s silence on this matter?
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listen to talksport just now, it’ll tell you everything. still talking about ‘rangers’ in spl
Just had one of those ‘light-bulb’ moments.
Next door neighbour, a friend for over 20 years despite him being a Rangers man (deifinitely NOT a hun!), shouts me in to try his new coffee machine. Talk got round to you-know-what and suddenly I saw these things from the other side when he said, conversationally, “You must be having fun surfing through the Rangers’ stuff; me, I hardly put the computer on now. Every day, every fecking day there’s something else and it’s always bad. We deserve everything that’s coming after all the shoite that Murray started and Whyte did to us and football, but jesus, this is just torture.”
Decent guy, really hurting, and I had to sit there not creaming myself.
Delighted to have bought a season ticket, that for the first time in my life won’t include
them.
As some one else said, there has been no punishment just consequence.