We gave STV credit on Wednesday for their reporting on SPL voting process required to decide what to do if a new company applies to join the league after an existing team ceases to exist (through prepack or other means).
I subsequently noticed in the same article they suggest Leeds United went into liquidation and returned with a phoenix prepack. This is incorrect. Leeds United, then in administration, were sold in 2007 to Ken Bates’ newly formed company, with Bates agreeing a deal with creditors. Leeds were, therefore, only liable for the statutory 10 point penalty for entering administration, although the league increased the punishment to 15 points as the club failed to follow correct administration procedure.
I don’t wish to harangue STV on what was an article with genuine information but they cite Leeds as a precedent: “there is no guarantee that the Scottish Premier League would act in the same way as their counterparts in England but the similarities between the regulations mean that the precedent may be used as a guide”.
If I was Rangers right now I would be trying to convince everyone that putting a football club out of existence, only to allow another company to pick up its league share, with a points total calculated from the position of the former club, is similar to a common administration. It’s not. This would be a completely different scenario.
Having discussed this matter with many people throughout the game and the media, I can find no precedent for a football club going out of existence and phoenix-ing back into the same league spot.
Airdrieonians failed in 2008, when the owners of Clydebank FC moved to Airdrie and renamed to Airdrie United. Gretna FC were voted into the space created by the absence of Airdrieonians (then a Second Division team), but entered at the bottom of the Scottish Football League.
Gretna failed in 2008 and a new club based at the same ground successfully applied for membership of the East of Scotland Football League. Annan Athletic entered the bottom rung of the Scottish Football League after Gretna’s demise, not into the First Division spot Gretna were unable to fulfil. Third Lanark were in the bottom division of the Scottish Football League when they were replaced by Clydebank.
Gretna-Annan, Clydebank-Gretna, Third Lanark-Clydebank are the only precedents that exist. If you fail, the team that replaces you joins the bottom rung of the Scottish senior league structure, there have been no exceptions, in Scotland or in England.
The SFA have a say in this matter also. They must ratify any decision of the SPL board and grant a licence to a new club before if can play in the SPL or Scottish Football League. The national association is made up of member clubs, most of whom stand to gain considerably if a Rangers Newco FC were to enter the Scottish Football League.
Irrespective of the SPL’s decision, the SFA better have some pretty good lawyers if they deviate from precedent. The football authorities have a duty to ensure their competitions observe meritocratic and moral correctness. It’s only ‘fit and proper.
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Jobo
Your quiz answers are funnier (& more original) ;-)
Jobo
You plagiarised that off bournesouprecipe today
Tut Tut
Re Sammi as an attacking midfielder
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Has anyone told him he is .
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I have witnessed Sammi tracking back and standing there as the play unfolded in front of him as if he could not read the paper let alone the game .Now I and you all know he can read a game ,that then leaves attitude .maybe when we bought the bhoy we should have also bought his attitude
Do Greece use him in this position ,no yet he seems to do ok for them .
I would agree with the bhoys who say he is more suited to a counter attack game .Well then what the hell is he still doing at CP ,we do not need a player like that to often .
Truth be told Sammi has the makings of a right good football player IMO he needs a strong manager and the right team to play for .I just wish he would turn it on for us till he finds both
hail hail
Round 4:Head to Head
Season 2008/09 : Highlights of the season was winning the league cup 2-0 humping the Huns. This was the year of the Willo Flood transfer window,
(2pts per correct answer if you are first to answer correctly, 1pt if you answer correctly but not first. One submission only per round)
Which player scored the most league goals that season?
1 Scott Brown OR Shaun Maloney
2 Stephen McMaus or Aiden McGeady
3 JVoH OR Georgios Samaras
Which player started the most league games?
4 Barry Robson or Marc Crosas
5 Andreas Hinkel or Gary Caldwell
6 Mark Wilson or Lee Naylor
EWO
Like you, or so you say, I rarely respond to comments. Usually quite content to post my views (like everyone else) and let others get on with how they choose to interpret them (most of us are grown-ups after all)i. To each his own and we are all entitliled to our opinions, hopefully with the best of intentions.
Is EWO a synonym for blind in your little world?
Do you find being an unpleasant ignoramous a pleasing quality?
Is your IQ higher than your age? Just a question.
Do you like to bully people? Try a creche – you are certainly out of your depth here.
Going to bed soon, but you still have a little time to amuse me.
Go chase yourself, you are a waste of space and time.
Be safe
Alex
Naw, I’ve banned Hunderwell for good, pitch/stand/fans pish
You can slang the Killie fans for being pro hun but even after 3-0 up their joy was not even matched by that mob scoring against us last season. Save my £28 for something else, like getting a ticket for the Madrid game for Mrs Prestonpans.
Gong to Italy for the last game fancy it……………
McMaus= McManus
Which player scored the most league goals that season?
1 Shaun Maloney
2 Aiden McGeady
3 Georgios Samaras
Which player started the most league games?
4 Barry Robson
5 Gary Caldwell
6 Lee Naylor
Which player scored the most league goals that season?
1 Scott Brown OR Shaun Maloney maloney
2 Stephen McMaus or Aiden McGeady mcmanus
3 JVoH OR Georgios Samaras jvoh
Which player started the most league games?
4 Barry Robson or Marc Crosas crosas
5 Andreas Hinkel or Gary Caldwell caldwell
6 Mark Wilson or Lee Naylor naylor
Which player scored the most league goals that season?
1 Scott Brown OR Shaun Maloney shaun maloney
2 Stephen McMaus or Aiden McGeady stephen mcmanus
3 JVoH OR Georgios Samaras JVOH
Which player started the most league games?
4 Barry Robson or Marc Crosas barry robson
5 Andreas Hinkel or Gary Caldwell hinkel
6 Mark Wilson or Lee Naylor naylor
Maloney
McManus
JVoH
Robson
Caldwell
Naylor
jobo
1.Scott Brown
2.StephenMcManus
3.JVoH
4.Marc Crosas
5.Andreas Hinkel
6.Lee Naylor
1 Shaun Maloney
2 Stephen McMaus
3 JVoH
Which player started the most league games?
4 Barry Robson
5 Andreas Hinkel
6 Lee Naylor
1 Shaun Maloney
2 Stephen McMaus
3 Georgios Samaras
4 Barry Robson
5 Gary Caldwell
6 Lee Naylor
AAFG
hope you are well..
god bless…
1 Scott Brown
2 Stephen McMaus
3 JVoH
4 Barry Robson
5 Gary Caldwell
6 Lee Naylor
1.Scott Brown
2 Stephen McMaus
3 Georgios Samaras
Which player started the most league games?
Marc Crosas
Gary Caldwell
Lee Naylor
1 Scott Brown OR Shaun Maloney SB
2 Stephen McMaus or Aiden McGeady SM
3 JVoH OR Georgios Samaras GS
Which player started the most league games? JH
4 Barry Robson or Marc Crosas BR
5 Andreas Hinkel or Gary Caldwell CG
6 Mark Wilson or Lee Naylor LN
1 Scott Brown
2 Stephen McMaus
3 Georgios Samaras
4 Marc Crosas
5 Andreas Hinkel
6 Mark Wilson
gotta go, baby SFFS has just woke up!!!
good luck in quiz and congrats to the winner (sftb!)
SFFS
great quiz again CRC
Answers to round 4
Goals
Scott Brown 5 Shaun Maloney 4
Stephen McManus 4 Aiden McGeady 3
JVoH 6 Georgios Samaras 15
Appearance
Barry Robson 13 Marc Crosas 14
Andreas Hinkel 32 Gary Caldwell 36
Mark Wilson 15 Lee Naylor 19
and the scores….
setting free the bears 37
Celtic Champs Elect 26
lostinbonnybridge 25
bjmac 24.5
pracepta 24
Neil Lennon Is A Celtic Soul Brother 23.5
Seven Fishes Four Steaks 23
prestonpansbhoy 22
Jobo Baldie 18
the long wait is over 13.5
Bobby Murdoch’s Curled Up Winkelpickers 13
baldybhoy 11
Another Alex
How are you, mhan? I hope things are all right.
And of course to finish we have:
Hoops am I?
(Remember one guess only, so up to you when you want to guess. 5 bonus points if you are first to guess the answer correctly)
Clue 1: I made 74 starts for Celtic, playing for the Hoops in the late 80s (20pts)
Seven Fishes Four Steaks says:
4 November, 2011 at 22:01
can I clam is points……………….
frank mcavennie
prestonpan
That place always stank!!! I remember a few years back there was 3 young smell fans who were giving Aiden and Lenny mouthfuls of filth every time they went near them. Wasnt hard to read their lips. They were about 12 to 13 years old.
Their parents must have very proud of them.
Hoops am I?
Clue 1: I made 74 starts for Celtic: playing for Celtic in the late 80s
Clue 2: I scored a total of 25 goals (12pts)
I was wondering who will go under first, the big Orcs or the wee Orcs..?
It got me thinking which according to Mrs Doyle is a very dangerous pastime of mine….hmmmm…I thunk?
Maybe they will go on the same day..????… Wait a ghod damn pickin minute… Cue the light bulb above one’s dome, eyebrows raised…..
They are planning to go at the same time causing panic & confusion in Orcadia!
I can see them now, Mad Vlad & the Thunderbirds puppet, the pair of scheming little Orcs! They are planning their exit together!
The SFA & Meeja would go mental, demanding that the Government save Scottish Football and bail out the Orcs.!
Calm down JD, maybe Mrs D is right, this thinking thing is getting to me, very taxing on the brain ;)
Great performance last night Bhoys, young JD and I were doing the Huddle with our backs to the TV after Hooper’s Goal. Great night, was so proud at the performance of all the Bhoys but was really pleased for big georgios.
Hail Hail
TLJD
Andy walker
McAvennie
alan mcinally
Mark Mcghee
I hadn’t seen the 2nd clue!
Tommy Coyne
Hoops am I?
Clue 1: I made 74 starts for Celtic: playing for Celtic in the late 80s
Clue 2: I scored a total of 25 goals
Clue 3: I also played for St Mirren in my career (6pts)
Jackie Jackanofski (sp)
jobo
Billy Stark