International players will begin returning to Bayern Munich’s training facility today. Many will undergo their first session under new manager Jupp Heynckes. Five points off the pace domestically, they face Freiburg on Saturday before the visit of Celtic one week today.
Freiburg are above the relegation play-off spot on goal difference only, largely as a consequence of settling in for a draw. They have lost only two of their seven games. On Saturday, Celtic scouts will likely learn how Bayern play against a packed defence.
If the result in Brussels afforded Brendan Rodgers some Champions League freedom, Heynckes is under pressure to win both games this coming week. This is far from impossible (they are Bayern Munich, after all), but the new manager will be working blind, having little or no time on the training field with his players, talented though they are.
I’m feeling unusually chilled about the game in Munich. We will rest those who need it on Saturday, then travel with the rare ‘nothing to lose’ phenomenon, so scarce for Celtic teams. The contrast for the Germans could not be greater; a loss to Celtic would be cataclysmic. We should enjoy this.
National Famine Day Memorial match-worn shirt
Many thanks to all who entered the raffle for James Forrest’s match-worn shirt, commemorating the Great Hunger, which followed the Blight which passed through much of Europe in the 1840s before hitting Ireland. A million died there, millions more emigrated, some to Scotland. A few of these new communities here setup football teams in Edinburgh, Dundee and then Glasgow.
Is this an important part of the Celtic story? I think so. Its consequences inform our values today.
You can enter the raffle by making a minimum £5 donation to Celtic FC Foundation here. The money will continue the great work carried out in your name. And you might win a signed, match-worn, Famine Memorial shirt.
What a great thing to do.
To enter, send your donation confirmation email to celticquicknews@gmail.com with the name of the PSG player who was booked for diving against Celtic last month in the SUBJECT line.
Thanks.
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DELANEYS DUNKY
Sorry I missed your reply, taxi duty.
My wee yin was at an open day at Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen with my good lady.
Just picked them up fae the station!
To late for a night cap?
Gerrybhoy 9.56.
Congratulations to you and your loved ones.
Enjoy that special moment a new born brings, when you see him on Friday.
Hail Hail
COSY CORNER BHOY on 11TH OCTOBER 2017 9:47 PM
Just had a young lhad in the house doing some electrical re-arrangements (usually done by me but invalidate insurance nowadays) who is off to Munich/Munchen/Bayern or wherever we are next week.Good on you son!
How you getting there then?……. GLASGOW TO MANCHESTER TO STUTTGART TO M/M/B by various means of transport not including a boat… unless he does the last stretch by river!
Bloody brilliant! Their tickets are for the home end but not giving a sh.t.
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DD, Sipsini, Sheila and myself travel on Monday – Edinburgh to Stuttgart – bus to Munich for 5 days – tickets for 8 CQN’rs courtesy of DD’s Bayern pal all in the home end, should be interesting P
HH
Big Packy
Just saw your post from last night re Jim Brogan. Loved him as a Celt, and used to see him at Mass every Sunday at St Joseph’s in Clarkston. Hard as nails, and a very under-rated player back then ( hate that lazy expression “back in the day “).
HH
FRIESDORFER. totally agree unsung hero and his brother. ktf
Corkcelt
Add my vote to the list for Niamh. Your fingers must be sore typing thanks so no need in this case, just hope it helps in some small way.
Jobo
Congrats – haven’t got to the grandwean stage yet but with 3 daughters I’m hoping there will be a few in the years to come. Enjoy, I’m sure it feels wonderful right now.
On another note a few of us are heading to Madrid at the weekend so will be in the Triskel Tavern on Saturday.
If anyone happens to be there it would be great to catch up over a beer or two.
Gutenberg, I’ve thanked everyone else so no way am I going to leave you out, so thanks pal much appreciated,
Goooood afternoon CQN
I generally would not discuss Sevco, they mean absolutely hee-haw to me
Anyway, confused
As a non accountant
How does it look like they will enter any admin ? I thought the loans are all from fans and board members ? Would they not need to call in the loans ?
If they need mor money to keep going, and no loans forthcoming, do they not just collapse/ fold ?
And why would Park (jnr) let D Murray step back in and wipe out his loans ?
Hail Hail
OneMalloy
It looks like there will be more Celtic supporters in the home end, than there will be in the away end next week in Allianz Arena.
The Bayern Munich fans know that the Celtic fans are arriving in peace. Canny wait.
HH
Congratulations Jobo – wonderful news. And such a beautiful name. Welcome Maria Rose. Lucky wee girl to be born into such a loving family.
HH
Jobo and Gerrybhoy
Many congratulations to you and your respective families on the births of your grandchildren.
Jobo
Many congratulations on your great news, and welcome to the club! Best wishes to one and all.
HH
Oooops
Gerrybhoy
Congrats to the family and welcome to Innes:-)
Was down on TO yesterday for our biannual visit, this is a 110 km round trip and involves 2 highways, one the 2nd busiest in NA, and an expressway.
On return I watched a WC game, difficult choice here as I have no love for “if he was chocolate he would eat himself” Cristiano’s side, highly talented but very cynical, they could put the argies to shame plus there’s the Seville and sleekit pretentious one factor and now the comedian over at hades versus the spiritual home of zwingli, calvin and farel, that is until I spotted that scheisskopf lichtsteiner that the pork and cheese won it over me.
It was later on that I spotted on here Big Packy’s comments on the Brogans, which struck a chord with me.
Bobby Evans was my first hero and when he left it was Paddy Crerand but another favourite then was Frank Brogan, not just me but my mad Celtic supporting class at St Pat’s which had a catchment area of Whitecrook tae Rhu and Renton tae Gartocharn as well as some of the teachers, we all loved Frank.
He was extremely fast and could play on both wings very effectively although best deployed on the left and most importantly knew the way tae goal.
He took over from Alex Byrne on the left wing and had a startling resemblance tae him as he was also talented but faint hearted tae.
In saying that there was a talentless thug in light blue out there that terrorised Celtic wingers, he allegedly ended the sublime John Higgins career while Celtic’s Lion almost ended his by humphin him in revenge.
The same wee barrel chested brute also ended the early career of wee Ten Thirty, no by intimidating him in fact the opposite, the young Bertie stood up tae him and missed out on the “Hampden in the Sun” game even though he had played in the earlier rounds, as a result of his gallusness which Bob Kelly decided wisnae the Celtic way.
It is often mentioned how the wee mhan was inexplicably dropped for the SC replay in 1963 but so was Frank; the reason here was he actually ran away fae the hooligan in blue. There was no way back for Frank after that and he ended up down in Ipswich where he starred and is still well thought of.
One of my favourite memories of him was in a game against Dundee, the Buzz Bombs debut, where he was switched to the right wing. This was the high flying City of Discovery side that would finish the season as champions, Celtic supporters that summer would sing “and just about daybreak I spied a wee lassie who told me the League flag had went tae Dundee”.
This was a terrific Dundee side with internationalists Hamilton, Ure, Robertson and the fabulous Alan Gilzean who earlier that season scored 4 goals at hades as they gubbed the home side 5-1, there was also the veteran Gordon Smith, no not wiggie but a real fitba player, the only Scottish player tae win League medals with 3 different teams.
Yet on this sunny March day we more than matched them and actually had a goal by the debutant chalked off. When Wishart, who had already won a title with the sheep, opened the scoring early in the 2nd half it looked again that another valiant attempt by the leather belts would fail. Not so, we battled on and with 10 minutes to go after a cross come shot from Frank eluded big ure and landed in the net there was now only going to be one winner, 5 minutes later from a Frank corner big Billy again notched a vital goal, against a player rated above him tae.
Frank retained his place for the next 2 games a 4-4 tie with the Hi Hi in which he scored and 4-0 in the replay which was at hunden but was inexplicably replaced by Bobby Carroll for the St Patrick’s Day game at Broomfield where we lost 0-1, I believe that this is the game where the latter was hit on the heid with a pie.
In typical Celtic of the day fashion he was back again for the visit of the sheep scoring both goals in a 2-0 victory.
Frank was a much maligned player in an era where a lot of very good prospects just never really made it but he still had the distinction of scoring our 5,000 goal at Firhill joining such luminaries of Adam McLean, Jimmy McGrory and Jimmy Delaney who had scored the 2,000, 3,000 and 4,000 respectively.
I can still see the picture of him in the next day’s Record with Adam McLean, ironically a boyhood Thistle fan and former assistant manager of them, who had autographed the ball.
The last I saw Frank was in a LC game down at Cappielow where he turned out for the home side, a shadow of the player he could have been.
His “wee” brother Jim was the complete opposite, not as talented but dear God what a heart; he was one of those players that you could truly say played for the shirt.
He like Frank could also play on both the right and left side although this time in the wing half position.
He was one of those players who seemed to take ages to break through, not a QSK member but a generation before, but when he did it gave the Big Mhan the impetus tae allow Luggy tae leave.
There are many memories of Jim in the hoops; most recall his last minute goal against deidco on the 1st anniversary of their disaster. We had taken the lead from another wee mhan’s header midway through the 1st half and looked on course for all 2 points when they equalised against the run of play with 9 minutes left on the clock.
Back we came at them and just s it looked as if we were heading for a draw, almost as bad as a loss back then, up popped Brogie in the box tae nod home the winner, he wheeled round and ran toward the Jungle, i thought he was going tae jump in and join us.
Prior tae that he had another outstanding game against them around 6 ½ year before. After a brutal nothing to play for LC game against the templars at the aptly named rugby park which saw both Big Billy and Chopper stretchered off and rushed to hospital we also had Lemon out injured and so a makeshift team lined up in the pouring rain at Parkheid tae face deidco.
Jim was in for Bobby Murdoch and big John Cushley for Billy. The hun striker at the time, one of only 3 centre forwards born in the Good and the Bad tae play for the national side, had been a thorn in Billy’s side much the same as jimmy miller had been in Bobby Evans’s, he hardly kicked a ball that day as John outmuscled him, similarly the Hill of Beath bevvie merchant didnae stroll around the park nonchalantly as he would do at Wembley 3 years later as Jim put him in his place. Both mhen were immense.
Within an hour we were 3 up and had also missed a penalty and a brilliant solo Yogi effort called back for a free kick tae us. They pulled one back in the dying minutes but we ran out easy easy easy winners. Oh aye and we also signed the Faither that week.
And yet it was back tae the stiffs for Jim where he bided his time until John Clark done in his cartilage 3 ½ years later, once in this time rarely out
Roll on 10 years tae a replay against FCM at Fir Park, former favourite Ian St. John was their manager and had brought former team mate Bobby Graham up fae Coventry. Graham was a sublime player and ran the midfield against us in the first game which was played on a Sunday due tae the power cuts and 3 day week then, only a Harry Harry double kept us in the cup.
And so on the Wednesday night we set of for the steel town. It was a full house that night. Although Jim lined up in his now usual left back position as soon as the ball was kicked off Pat McCluskey went there and Jim followed Graham all over the pitch, it’s the first time I can ever recall us man marking.
Even when fat Pat got injured his replacement Tid went straight intae the left back slot allowing Jim tae patrol the midfield along with the Quiet Assassin who had been listed at right back. A Dixie header on the hour at his former happy hunting ground saw us through tae the semis.
That night epitomised how much of a genius the Big Mhan could be, however, he didnae always get it right and that wet night in the San Siro I watched a crestfallen, Brogie, Yogi, Davie Hay and Evan Williams who had all deserved better as they collected their runners up medals.
I was at Jims last game the Paul Wilson GC final where he skippered the side in the place of the now retired Big Billy, by this time “Brogies gonnae get you” had lost his place to the rejuvenated Andy Lynch, sadly he was concussed and had tae go off.
One last piece of useless information is that Jim attended St Joseph’s Dumfries where he played rugby for the school side, the alama mater and final resting place of our founder.
Both Brogans were good Celts, with Jim actually being a great one. I have often said on here and other sites that if we could have cloned Frank’s talent with Jim’s determination we would have more than one Big Cup in the Trophy Room.
Tontine Tim,
There are many posts that I scroll on by now, but never any of yours.
Your memories march alongside my own, though my recall is nowhere near as good as yours.
I do recall though, the game at Kilmarnock, where the thug Billy Hamilton did both Billy and Bobby.
The one player that I felt really sorry for after the Milan Final, it was Yogi.
That man gave everything he had to win his winner’s medal, but to no avail.
If the rest of his team mates matched his efforts, I believe we would have won that game.
Doubts still linger as regards the team’s attitude, for whatever reason.
A work mate of my father was there and not being a drinking man, went up to the stadium early and watched Celtic arrive.
He said that the prevailing attitude of the players coming off the bus could be describes as “surly”, with one top player actually kicking his bag off the bus.
I won’t mention the lad he named.
Tontine Tim
A great read about Jim and frank Brogan.
Tontine Tim 1116pm
Brilliant post, thank you. Evokes many happy memories of a bygone era, especially JB, who I loved playing for Celtic.
HH
Gerry Bhoy
Congratulations on the new arrival. You’ll love membership of the club. Best wishes to all.
HH
One Malloy/DD
What time is your flight out of Edinburgh to Stuttgart on Monday? I am flying to Munich, via Frankfurt, on Monday ETD 1245. Might see you at the airport.
HH
TT
Great read again.
That replay at Motherwell was the first time I got to go to an away game with my pals of that time.
Bus into Glasgow, train to Motherwell and follow the crowd to the ground. Approaches to the turnstiles were thronging. There was a boys gate with even larger queues and it took us until just before kick off to get onto the terraces. We wriggled our way to near the front at the corner flag and got a good view.
Just like the first game on the Sunday at Celtic Park, it was a tight game and it was a mix of joy and relief when Dixie scored.
I remember feeling quite grown up when I got home safely in one piece. A bit of a coming of age moment.
Other memories of Fir Park include Roy Aitken and Champagne Charlie inspired thrashing ofthe hosts and hearing on the radio that Terry Butcher had broken his leg in our centenary season.
Friesdorfer
07.05 Edinburgh to Stuttgart on Monday.
Early night Sunday.
Gerrybhoy
Congratulations on your new grandson. Magic.
This should give yeezaw summat to argue about till the football returns-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/what-to-listen-to/bruce-springsteen-albums-ranked-best-worst/human-touch0/
FWIW,he has my top seven in his top nine-but a different order!
Reposting Bobbys charity request. Quite a few more donations needed for this young lass’ charity adventure.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 11TH OCTOBER 2017 12:34 PM
Wee request for funding,please.
My über-Tim mate from Bicester,via Swindon and Chapelhall is proud as punch that his partner’s daughter is off to Kenya in the summer to help build a school in the middle of nowhere.
From scratch.
“In 2019, I have the honour of travelling to Kenya to help build a school for the local children. Whilst there I will be: building the school, clearing waterholes and much more. However, to be able to complete such amazing volunteer work, I have to raise £4000, in total. To do this, I will be doing a range of sponsorship activities as well as this.
I hope that you will help me on my journey to Kenya, so I can help people less fortunate than me.”
https://www.gofundme.com/kenya-volunteer-trip-2019
If you have a spare few quid,it’s going to a good cause. And you’ll put a smile on a few faces-even mine,for once!
Thanks in advance,and
HH
Morning, reading back about big yogi, wee bit of useless information, his son Kevin is a qualified lawyer
GerryBhoy.
Congratulations to you and your family , welcome to the world Innes.
H.H
Big Yogi..
My first ever fav Celtic player, loved his direct style he was the ying to Jinkys yang in that respect.
Jinky jinked and Yogi bulldozed, we were spoiled then, I grew up thinking all our wingers were going to be brilliant , alas I was wrong .
O and happy birthday to me 57 yrs young and still no a Granpa ( 3 sons) , plenty time yet ( God willing).
H.H
Word of The Day
didactic /dɪˈdæktɪk/
adjective
1. intended for instruction; instructive:
2. inclined to teach or lecture others too much:
3. morally instructive; improving
4. (of works of art or literature) containing a political or moral message to which aesthetic considerations are subordinated
5. didactics, (used with a singular verb) the art or science of teaching.
Derived Forms
didactically, adverb
didacticism, noun
Word Origin and History for didactic
adj.
1650s, from French didactique, from Greek didaktikos “apt at teaching, “from didaktos “taught,” past participle of didaskein “teach,” from PIE root*dens- “wisdom, to teach, learn.” Related: Didactically ; didacticism.
KTF
Good morning CQN from a clear and cool East Devon on what is my 67th birthday.
Loved Jim Brogan, hard as nails.
Many congratulations Ianbhoy929. Have a special day..
2 more sleeps (well, for us adults ;-) )
Tontime Tim – thanks for that Jim& Frank Brogan contribution last night.
Hello this is WEE BGFC. ME AND DA ON OUR WAY TO BAVARIAN BAVARIA FOR EL GAME!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
HH
WEE BGFC
Hello this is WEE BGFC. We are currently in glamourous Overtown.
HH
WEE BGFC
Hello this is WEE BGFC. En route to M74.
HH
WEE BGFC
Tontine Tim,
Thanks for that contribution on the Brogans. You have some memory. You’re right, of course. If we could have had a combination of Frank’s ability (or Alex Byrne’s) with Jim’s heart, we would have had a great great player.
GERRYBHOY
Congratulations on your new grandson !!!
50 Shades of Green
Ianbhoy 929
Hoopy Birthday fellas.
HH