In many years of writing here I’ve never before used a piece of Charlie Nicholas wisdom; there is not too much to choose from. One of his comments stuck in my head, though. A year after Celtic won at Arsenal in the Pierce O’Leary Testimonial, but went on to lose the league, Arsenal thumped Celtic 1-5 in Glasgow.
In a rare generous mood towards his former club, after the game Nicholas said, “These matches are all about making mistakes”. What the returning Celtic manager Billy McNeill needed more than anything was information. Arsenal provided plenty that afternoon. The lesson was clear, Billy and his players had a lot of work to do.
What happened that season is now part of our folklore. Billy pursued, and within two months signed, Frank McAvennie, Celtic steamrollered their way to the league title and completed the double against Dundee Untied at Hampden. Heavy preseason defeats to Arsenal (and Stromstad) were grist to the mill, a part of an eventual successful outcome, just as the doing West Ham’s doled out last year was.
Celtic would benefit from flushing out their mistakes in their three remaining preseason games. Thus far, the build-up has been useful in putting energy into the legs, but we need better tests.
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Sonsoferin 🤣🤣🤣
There is a dearth of food outlets around the ground. The Pizza Hut at the Forge has closed. I suggest that there is little demand on non match days. The Walfrid Restaurant is not well supported.
There is massive demand on match days but a maximum of 30 days and nights is not enough to sustain a business. Therefore a pop up Fanzone is probably the best idea.
A Fan Cafe next to the Superstore could maybe be supported by non match day visitors.
Did Celtic not apply for planning for a museum /Hotel?
MADMITCH @ 3:14 PM
“SFTB @ 12.50
In less words……….”
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You mean fewer, Shirley?
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SFTB @ 4.27
No — less is more …
SONSOFERIN
Thanks for that. The very dab.
SONSOFERIN
I didn’t know you could do that with newsnow.
Thanks for that i would add The Celtic Way to the list you provided earlier apparently it is a daily express site
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 14TH JULY 2022 3:57 PM
BIG JIMMY
Aribo signed for Southampton for £6m with potential add-ons taking it to £10m.
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cheers mate, thanks for your reply.
HH
A week past on Monday I posted my disbelief and disappointment that the only tickets available for the 2 upcoming friendlies were a few scattered about the upper tiers and the odd one here and there. ….. for a friendly on Glasgow Fair Saturday and the following Saturday. The next day most of these were gone.
Does anyone really think there’ll be upwards of 56,000 for these games. I know we’re all desperate to see and be entertained by The Bhoys again- and in one sense I’d be delighted if 56k turned up – but aren’t we missing a trick here. Obviously not if a full house turns up:
So does anyone want to hazard a guess as to Saturday’s actual attendance?
A wee hint to my post above.
Obviously there were no spectators at last year’s friendly vs West Ham but a similar friendly back in The Blessed Martin’s first season brought 36,000 to The Holy Ground ( think that was a midweek game).
PARK ROAD @12.54
Been out for awhile…thank you for your response..
BB @ 4.20
The world is moving on — or at least most of it is moving on.
Across the “world” stadiums / teams are investing in more facilities.
We are already behind the curve so I think work needs to be done.
The local area / East End presents its own set of challenges.
But I think we should plan for the world of the future rather than just live in the past.
Plus we do not make the most of what we have never mind what we could have.
Main point is to get more people to the ground more often– more days in use.
The football tourist angle is now mainstream — we need to engage with it.
Lots of ways to do that starting with the basics of a B Team Stadium.
The usual suspects are all still in play:
Crownpoint / New Helenvale / Barrowfield / Emirates gap site.
A proper museum / interpretation centre would be a huge plus.
That would include image gallery / proper shop / food offering.
Plus bulk up capacity for the existing tour / plan a roofwalk.
Summer traffic / must see attraction — Barca or bust.
Work the links to the Emirates across the road — they will have their own events.
The target should be an East End Sporting Village — Glesga needs an ice rink and I think that the GCC should be reminded of that.
The lack of a hotel is shameful given the number of flats in the old Barr’s site that are holiday lets with Emirates in the description.
Lots of ideas — lots of money — that is investment in / income out.
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Regarding the specific stadium offering — a new Main Stand will transform any Walfrid Restaurant offering.
Using Pizza Hut to excuse real progress is just a wee bit lazy.
Although every journey …
So get the pop up Fan Zone up and running and see where it takes us.
One thing that sticks out — we have no executive energy at all.
SCANIEL
I was at the West Ham game last season.
I would guess at 30/35k on Saturday
St Josephs day. 112 years ago.
While doing the family history I have been delving into the British Newspaper archive, utterly fascinating with any descent sized town having their own local press. Reports are in the prose of the time, but the local papers are less politically partizan than the broadsheets and really report anything and everything as long as it involves anyone in the town (or even events from abroad as long as they involve a local) such as a returning soldier from the boar war or a marriage in new york of someones son or daughter. I am searching family stuff first, but on getting a screenshot of the paper I am reading every single thing, from boat arrivals, to yard notices, to co-op adverts to football specials, and of special interest court reports. A special mention for a house get raide for a illigel Fenian meeting.
Yesterday I posted in error an article on the BAY CELTIC stared as a team in 1900s, , effectively a team of bhoys, all catholic, all either Irish or 2nd generation Irish, several made it as junior and some into senior football. But get this they all had to be from one single street in the Port, GEORGE STREET, if you know the area, it ran from just around the front of the baths up to the railway line, the whole bay area and the dockside truelly being “the dirty wee port”, the census shows the Irish families literally stacked on top of each other in these decrepit tenements, in our case a family of 10 in 2 rooms.
Meanwhile the villas of the Shipyard owners, the sugar importers, the barrell and sail makers all behind the twon into the hills, many grand houses in Lilybank and up chapelton. For all the catholics from old newark, up bouverie and out to chapel lane, there is an equally large orange population down the glen and to the yards.. A town of 2 halfs for sure.
So on reading the BAY CELTIC ARTICLE, with several family names still with descendents in the Port (my wife great great granda and my great granda lived in the same close in George stree !
Next up, there is an old picture of a football special leaving the port, I think going to a Celtic cup final, and the station is packed to see them off. I foten wonder in all our towns outside of glasgow was the support really that fanatical, to go see the “teenage celtic barely 20 years old, Were they really that big a draw.
The contempary report suggest well actually aye, and then some.
A relative is up at court, him and two others accused of taking bets in a close, one of them is unemployed, but has over £3 pounds on him when arrested. His reason given is “collecting money for the football special”. The Sherrif asks, “so it wont be for Clune Park (Port Athletic ) is it for Cappielow or I suppose Parkhead for you” , he replies, aye Celtic Park sir.
They all got convicted by the way, £5 fines or 30 days in jail, the unemployed fella was able to pay up immediately on leaving the court (all very peaky blinders).
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an example, The port yins are not Port supporters but celtic supporters from the port –
Port-Glasgow Express – Friday 19 March 1909
The Port and Celtic Match at Glasgow. THE RUSH AT THE STATION. The Magistrates of this burgh on 22nd February took up the remit to inquire into the reasons for the police giving their services in assisting the railway officials to collect fares at one of the evening trains on 6th inst. Superintendent Craig, Constable Wltitchie, and Mr William Whitecross, stationmaster, were each in attendance, and their statements were taken. As a result of the enquiry made, the Magistrates have ascertained that on the evening of 6th ult. the police were asked by the stationmaster to give their services in maintaining order on the arrival of the Glasgow train at 11.8, as he had received a wire from Glasgow that the gates there had been rushed by a number of Port-Glasgow passengers who had refused to pay an excess fare of 6d ; that in the performance of their duty four members of the police force were sent to the station for this purpose ; that with the assistance of three special constables drawn from the Greenock district of the county, and who were returning home by said train, the police were successful in maintaining order among the passengers ; and that the police did not give their services in collecting or assisting the railway servants to collect tickets or excess fares.
http://www.ptearlyyears.net/star_hotel.jpg
For here it was THE PORT GLASGOW EXPRESS.
Port-Glasgow Express – Friday 19 March 1909
SCANIEL
The match on Saturday is on the season card. That means 53,000 seats cannot be included in public sale. That’s why so few tickets were available to non-st holders.
Celtic have no way of knowing whether each ST holder is going to show up on the day.
Tom
That’s why we need this type of arrangement
https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/tickets/ticket-exchange/
GENE
Agreed. Makes sense.
I agree with you paul67 about using friendlies to find flaws however I’m enjoying the current sense of continuity- one we haven’t had for a while
Ryan Gauld scores for Vancouver in their 2-2 draw away to Cincinnati. Johnny Russell on the mark for Kansas City in their 1-1 draw away to Minnesota.
Oddly, the Chicago scorers in their 2-0 win over Toronto were: ( Duran, Duran )!
Duran Duran goals set up by REO ?
SAINT STIVS
Duran Duran goals set up by REO ? 🤣😂😅
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Lewis Morgan is 8th top scorer in MLS with 9 goals ( top scorer has 12 ).
Morgan is behind 2 Argentinians, 2 U.S. players, a Colombian, a German and a Greek. Truly an international league.
aYE, SEEN A MONTAGE OF HIS GOALS RECENTLY, HE IS HITTING SOME CRACKERS, FOUND HIS LEVEL i THINK,
Look out for another kid Rhys Gourdie, Dad from the Port mam from Gourock.
BigBhoy- the school was demolished to make way for a museum/cafe,it’s the Fat Cats car park now…..can’t see that changing
If there was proper demand for a hotel in the east end close to Cltic Pakr and the Emirated for all these “spports tourists” the hotel providers would have built one buy now, and before the 2014 commenwealth games.
Orangeman tan in window under Irish flag. (caution – lots of wee swearies ).
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/marching-band-retaliates-after-man-throws-garbage-bin/vi-AAZwUlj
Orangeman tan in window under Irish flag. ( Caution – lots of wee swearies ).
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/marching-band-retaliates-after-man-throws-garbage-bin/vi-AAZwUlj
Apologies for double post
Absolute hero inquisitiv
Good evening all. Back in the pub without a winner. I shall awake in the morn with a lighter wallet. But I’ll still be a Tim. 😜👍
JACKIEMAC 6.27. He sure is. 👍
Saint Stivs on 14th July 2022 6:15 pm
If there was proper demand for a hotel in the east end close to Cltic Pakr and the Emirated for all these “spports tourists” the hotel providers would have built one buy now, and before the 2014 commenwealth games.
Spoken like the big polis in Allo Allo…..
TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 14TH JULY 2022 3:57 PM
BIG JIMMY
Aribo signed for Southampton for £6m with potential add-ons taking it to £10m.
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cheers mate, thanks for your reply.
HH
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The fee was undisclosed but sevco supporters claim 6 million plus add ons up to 10 million. Think the friendly media have put out fake figures to look ok to supporters. Why not just disclose fee like they did with patterson the 18 million pound boy, oh that right they talk shite
HH
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Facilities at celtic Park are poor but don’t hold your breath for change
HH
SFTB said:
“The only exception I saw was Sevco’s ability to foul us without appropriate ref response and bigger harder players might match them and /or get retribution but the problem wasn’t being bullied by Jack, Lundstram or Aribo; it was refs allowing fouling that is not allowed elsewhere in Europe. Coaching cannot change that ref’s issue.”
I believe that to be true and it is a very damning aspect of Scottish Football. Maybe Celtic supporters should concentrate a little more on that rather than looking for any opportunity to criticise our Club.
STEPHBHOY67
Re the Patterson fee – we will probably only find out the truth when Everton publish their accounts.
11 new hotels have been built in Glasgow over the last decade. The city now has a surplus of room availability.
Perhaps Celtic are aware of this fact.
HH.
Ah wheel saiz this only wunze
Ovh, the old empirist (?) Maley must have wrote the ticket for the advert
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Port-Glasgow Express – Friday 06 August 1909
DON’T FORGET THE GREAT CELTIC SPORTS
The Greatest Athletic Meeting in the Empire,
Parkhead, Saturday, 14th August, AT 3 r.m.
WHEN THE PICK OF ALL THE CHAMPIONS WILL COMPETE.
SPE , ‘ ITEM —A. E. Willa, holder of the World’s Motor raced Cycling E. cord of 61 miles ICO7 3ards in the hour, will attempt New Reoord.
ADMISSION – SIXPENCE.
SFTBs
Great post at 12.50.All true,but with many a waste of time.The Transfer Window blood lust is on them,and the CH and holding midfielder mantra must be kept going.
I agree a more clever,mobile MF would be better,that’s why I thought Moot might be the one.Seems not.
Strange man to read,Ange.