Football’s impudent scamps have long caused more annoyance than actual harm to their clubs. Many live by a different moral code to the rest of us which leads to all sorts of excesses, including the occasional violent bust-up.
Can you kick a team mate on the training field and punch him in the dressing room? You bet, there are hundreds of precedents for you. You can certainly kick lumps out of an opponent, but what about doling out racial references in the middle of a game?
The use of a racist term in my office, and I’m sure your workplace, would lead to summary disciplinary procedures, but football has a way of looking at miscreants through rose tinted lenses. The hoary old defence on these occasions, be if for footballers or anyone else, is ‘He’s not a racist, some of his best friends are….’.
This doesn’t matter. The guilty party may be more rascal than racist but he needs to be treated in the same way anyone else using racist language in the workplace would be. English football has done enormous work to combat racism since the 1980s but it’s in danger of undermining these efforts by accommodating people who should know better.
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Vinny
I thought you mentioned you were starting a new job lately?
A young Tony Soprano sits at his desk writing a Christmas list to Jesus.
He first writes, ‘Dear baby Jesus, I have been a good boy the whole year, so I want a new …’
He looks at it, then crumples it up into a ball and throws it in the bin. He gets out a new piece of paper and writes again, ‘Dear baby Jesus, I have been a good boy for most of the year, so I want a new …’
He again looks at it with disgust and throws it away. He gets an idea. He goes into his mother’s room, takes a statue of the Virgin Mary, puts it in the closet, and locks the door.
He takes another piece of paper and writes, ‘Dear baby Jesus. If you ever want to see your mother again …’
[Okay, okay: my coat and hat are already on …]
hen1rik says:
22 December, 2011 at 15:55
Anyone got any updates on what’s happening with the key info the SFA are waiting on from Craig whyte?
CW has confirmed to the SFA he was banned as a director as he was trading whilst insolvent and was using 3 different names and 3 different dates of birth. The SFA have given him a strong telling off but have granted next years Euro Licence in advance!!!
McNair is the greatest says:
22 December, 2011 at 16:15
hen1rik says:
22 December, 2011 at 15:55
Anyone got any updates on what’s happening with the key info the SFA are waiting on from Craig whyte?
CW has confirmed to the SFA he was banned as a director as he was trading whilst insolvent and was using 3 different names and 3 different dates of birth. The SFA have given him a strong telling off but have granted next years Euro Licence in advance!!!
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Lardo66 says:
22 December, 2011 at 16:11
Perhaps you should direct your comment at those condoning the violence that took place.
My Friend’s wife left him after saying he thinks about Celtic more than her, he was devastated, as he’d been with her for five seasons!
Did anyone hear the comment on the Des and Jenny breakfast show on Capital FM. Daughter made me listen to it in the car this morning when taking the rabbit to the vets for some much needed dental work.
Jenny had described her worst ever job as a Santa elf in a shopping mall many years ago and how the memory of it has broken her Christmas spirit.
Anyway, Des had organised for her to be a Santa Elf for an hour at the Silverburn shopping centre today and was teasing the obviously totally pi$$ed of Jenny about the day he’d planned for her, the end of the conversation went something like;
Des – So Jenny, you’re obviously up for this Elf gig today, can you remember your catchphrase for the kids today at the grotto?
Jenny – Yeh its, get it right round ye kids!
A rare genuine LOL moment for me, and it took Fudgie’s mind off the op for a while.
Both me and a drowsy Fudgie looking forward to tuning in to the next Celtic win this weekend, gutted that I’ll miss the mis-match between the Princes and pawpers next Wednesday, but confident in the result and the fact that I can catch up on CQN later that night.
Hail Hail
Soupsy (any flavour but goat)
TBB I was off work since end of Oct and just started back last week, probably it was that although it felt like a new job. I’m rarely off sick and last year only had one day in 12 months, that was the longest I was ever off work…… it was great to be back, I must be going mad.
sickintheheidCSC
V
HH
Slightly more than reasonable force? Violence? After a good five minutes of incessent verbal abuse in front of women and children?
Two wrongs do not make a right Ernie. I agree, but flinging an abusive ned off the train shouldn’t merit a stabbing.
Not looking for an online fight. Not my style. (looks for dagger smiley).
What have El Kaddouri and Kris Boyd in common?
Saw a comment that the young 16 yr old accused of either hitting Lafferty and/or his car is remanded until after New Year. Surely this can’t be true?
I mean, what the hell is the use in slapping a 16 yr old in the nick at the time when the police are always complaining of overful jails or prisons?
Does not seem to chime with the non-custodial sentences I’ve read about recently in Dunfermline and Kilwinning for sectarian abuse and assault respectively but is consistent with the wee 17yr old lad arrested at home and detained over a weekend following his alleged actions at CP during the Hibs game. ( As I recall he would still be in jail awaiting his trial if the Lord Advocate himself had not ordered his release.)
Seems the benches now very publicly declaring there is one rule for some and another for Celtic fans. Aye, greatest wee country in the world right enough.
If this story IS true someone should be getting their jotters. Why would a Fiscal say no to a request for bail in this situation unless being downright vindictive and marking cards for the future?
bournesouprecipe says:
22 December, 2011 at 16:30
What have El Kaddouri and Kris Boyd in common?
Both scored a single Glasgow derby goal
pap him off the train- end off and story over
if he had no ticket- pap him off
if he had an invalid ticket pap him off
stop pandering
Bsr, both have one Glasgow derby goal? Both won’t be playing in Scotland in January? Both love monster munch?
SffS
While the western world seems to be out having fun, I’m working and occasionally lurking. can’t make it along to the gettogether on Friday as I’m saving my prime time for the Killie game.
So, I just thought I’d take the chance to thank Paul67 and others in the cyberworld.
2011 has seen further shifts in the way Celtic supporters use and view the traditional Scottish football media.
I’d love to know what the 2011 sales of the Record and Sun are compared with the last couple of years. I know people in general are buying fewer papers; internet and free dailies are factorsa s well as general belt tightening.
I’d like to think there’s also fewer and fewer Celtic fans buying these rags because of their agenda and because of their awful “churnalism”.
The quality online is so much better!
My own favourites are CQN, Phil Mac, Celtic Underground and the Rangers Tax case (which, strictly speaking isn’t a Celtic site but who amongst us doesn’t go on there hoping, praying for anything which takes us ever nearer to that glorious event?!).
Others will have other Celtic sites they frequent. That is just about enough I can cope with!
Each has their own niche and USP. Each has their own part to play in informing, educating and entertaining us.
The homespun podcast tones of Eddie Pearson have had me chuckling through many an early morning train journey.
Phil’s exclusives have had the lapdog loyal in a spin.
RTC has shown the LL to be the amateurs that they are.
Every day on CQN Paul speaks his mind and asks the questions Scotland’s football authorities and media just don’t want to know about. I’m proud to have every print edition of the fantastic CQN magazine, including what surely will be the collector’s piece, CQ! The articles are superb too, well done to all the contributors.
My only criticism of Paul’s recent stuff and maybe it reflects his own personal Celtic expectation management strategy (and bhoy do we all need one) is a too pessimistic tone on the team’s chances this year. I know the last thing we need is complacency. But we’ve got Rangers in our sights, on the run and back to what they do best; relying on dodgy penalties and the MIB!
I think the team is playing some great stuff now. Thanks to the GB the atmosphere is the ground is the best its been for a long time.
There’s too many excellent CQN contributors to thank personally. But this lurker thanks you all!
So, as Noddy Holder says, Merry Christmas everybody!
tamrabam
next time somebody thinks your in the wrong – be it your boss, your wife, the polis, a sheriff – just take it then
(regarless of anything you may/say/do/believe)
its a simple world
next time we’re reported singing illicit songs – just take it – regardless
its that simple
I’m Neil Lennon (tamrabam) says:
22 December, 2011 at 16:32
‘pap him off the train- end off and story over
if he had no ticket- pap him off
if he had an invalid ticket pap him off
stop pandering’
Someone assaults you. Stab him.
Someone stabs you. Shoot him.
i’m truly amazed that the rest of the carriage just sat there like scared sheep – that no one stood up and said ‘i’ll pay the weans ticket’
Is that a nookie badge that young JF is sporting on the propogandarus olympics story, hope his GF knows about it.
Anyway, glad our young players are showing the independance of mind to consider participation in London 2012, and Lenny won’t discourage them, I’m all for our yong players broadening their experience.
How fantastic would it be for young Celtic players to return from London wearing a medal of any hue, giruy Ogilvie.
Soupsy (there’s no such flavour as goat soup)
twinbhoy
the train was headin northwards
spikey
pure non sense
everyone has a responsibility
did he have a valid ticket yes or no
end of story
if you turned at at CP and claimed without a ticket would you expect to get in?
if you turned up at a bus without a ticket would you expect to get on
if you turned up at the airport would you expect to get on a flight without a ticket
simples really nothing to do with the absolute crap that you wrote
Celtic quick answers
Ernie,
Someone takes action against you whilst you are committing an offence or crime and you stab him?
In front of women and children on public transport?
Whilst being recorded on cctv and passengers’ iphones?
If the fare dodger had done that and you were on the carriage would you have applauded like the people who applauded the big fella?
Lardo66 says:
22 December, 2011 at 16:29
‘Two wrongs do not make a right Ernie. I agree, but flinging an abusive ned off the train shouldn’t merit a stabbing.’
I didn’t say it did.
I said that if you’re a nine stone weakling, carrying a knife might prevent you being asaulted by a fat lump twice your size.
A great post taggsybhoy. Pretty much sums up my own thoughts on things Celtic just now.
Have a great Christmas.
Good afternoon CQN
Any news on the two bhoys who were due up at court for the ‘huns’ banner?
I know the sectarian element of the charge was correctly and thankfully dropped,
just curious how they got on with the rest of the charge?
Cheers for any info’
Ernie
Widen the context a little and you are still wrong I believe.
If your answer is to carry a knife in case someone bigger has a go at you then you are quite wrong I’m afraid.
Surely that’s not what you are advocating?
hen1rik says:
22 December, 2011 at 16:13
That’s a great point.
Ernie
when should it ever be permitted to carry a knife in public….?
Lardo66 says:
22 December, 2011 at 16:48
‘Widen the context a little and you are still wrong I believe.
If your answer is to carry a knife in case someone bigger has a go at you then you are quite wrong I’m afraid.
Surely that’s not what you are advocating?’
If you’re a nine stone weakling, would carrying a knife increase or decrease your chance of being assaulted by a fat lump twice your size?
blantyretim says:
22 December, 2011 at 16:50
‘Ernie
when should it ever be permitted to carry a knife in public….?’
When people are allowed with impunity to assault those smaller and weaker than them.
I’m not the one advocating that.
Zbyszek says:
22 December, 2011 at 16:50
Well said my friend. Enough of the knife talk.
God bless young Reamonn and his family.
Who has never skipped their fare on a bus or a train ?
Ernie
it should never be allowed ..
ernie lynch says:
22 December, 2011 at 16:52
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You say you’re “not advocating” it, but seem to be saying it’s acceptable to carry a knife?
Hmm…
The St Mirren v Celtic clash is sold out and Celtic have taken a bigger allocation compared with the first fixture, – so much for negativity.
via @celticservant
blantyretim says:
22 December, 2011 at 16:55
‘Ernie
it should never be allowed ..’
Assaulting those smaller and weaker shouldn’t be allowed either.
Yet posters on here are advocating that it should.
Lundy says:
22 December, 2011 at 16:54
Who has never skipped their fare on a bus or a train ?
………….
Me and I’m guessing the vast majority of the population!
Ernie, stop digging!