It will surprise no one that Uefa have charged our football club with “the displaying of an offensive banner and setting off of fireworks [sic]by fans”, this action was as inevitable as the dawn. At least some of our number believes setting off flares in a football stadium is a reasonable action and that provoking European football’s governing body is a smart thing to do.
In terms of protest, “**** Uefa” is not quite up there with Martin Luther’s Thesis or what we’ve witnessed in the Arab world this year. It’s simple rebellious behaviour, which some of us are compelled by in our teens and a few take a long time to shake off.
Forget calls to self-police, I’ve never seen it work with a football support. Ever. If you think you are going to convince anyone the folly of profane banners, flares or even IRA chanting at a football game, save your breath. Those who are up for the protest (whatever the subject is) are more likely to find your call for restraint as complicity.
This series of protest and consequence will run for years, will split the support and damage Celtic. Neither the club nor the support has the leadership to do anything about it. Copy and paste the thoughts you write on the subject, you can use them again without having to retype.
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The refs in the EPL are so clearly several classes above the characters operating in scotland its like chalk and cheese.
Most of the EPL linesmen and women would make a better job of refereeing than the spl ones.
Incompetence plus the “honest mistakes” should be their motto.
ernie lynch says:
19 December, 2011 at 12:49
are they legally allowed to do that ?
HAil Hail
3rd clue..
Alex Salmond want’s an independant scotland so he brings in new laws to suit his agenda.
Remember he has looked at the so called deleted data and he knows that catholics are more likely to be attacked than any other religion in this country and this would not get him independence in this country if he has to go through the Catholic European Union.
Celtic_First says:
19 December, 2011 at 12:47
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:
19 December, 2011 at 12:49
That was for you btw
Hail Hail
Celtic_First
They appealled, even though they admit they owe the money.
Make of that what you will!
Any flights to Egypt on December 28th to avoid the (F)lying Collum ?
HolyInnocentsCSC,ML2turtledoves
Is it true that Willie Collum is getting the back of his head shaved so that he gets a clear view of any R@ngers player diving….er ,sorry, I meant being heinously fouled in the box?
If Collum gets up to his usual tricks on the 28th, Celtic should demand English refs for the games against the Tax Dodgers.
Celtic_first
They can also take teh bigtax case to a second tier tribunal and … why not I say ?
Hail Hail
Aipple – No problem.
Here’s Hoopy’s less famous cousin, Bobby Murdog:
http://www.littleburts.co.uk/ekmps/shops/littleburts/images/celtic-fc-dog-shirt-4225-p.jpg (thumbsup)
hen1rik says:
19 December, 2011 at 12:51
Do me a favour,gonnae lay off the smarties and irn bru.
What a lot of Celtic fans would like to know especially those that are coming home for Christmas is
Is there going to be an extra 8000 briefs on sale ?
Hail Hail
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:
19 December, 2011 at 12:47
‘But despite a string of ongoing problems behind the scenes Rangers’ new owner Craig Whyte has rustled up the cash to avoid having an 8000-strong travelling support locked out of the biggest fixture of the festive season.
So I am behind with the news ….. the huns have already paid Celtic plc for the tickets.’
Media House saying Whyte has ‘rustled (that’s what cowboys do) up the cash’ doesn’t mean he’s paid it.
It’s like Keevins on Clyde dismissing the Sheriff Officers story ‘I spoke to Rangers this afternoon and they said it’s news to them.’
Well, yes it was news, but it had happened.
I think we have to give the Celtic support some credit. The flare throwers and the banner makers must, by now, realise what they did was crazy and must feel increasingly isolated and embarrassed.
Surely even the most moronic of fans will think twice about bringing more shame to our club and ruining the fine reputation it’s had for so many years.
What a lot of Celtic fans would like to know especially those that are coming home for Christmas is
Is there going to be an extra 8000 briefs on sale for the Old Firm game ?
An Old Firm game where there will be no sectarian chanting possibly ?
An Old Firm game that you can take your Granny too ? due to it the rating going from XXX to PG ?
HAil Hail
Apart from paying up-front for their tickets they should also be made to pay ,in advance, for the stadium damage they will do to the seats and toilets).
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo – Is there going to be an extra 8000 briefs on sale ?
There was a stall in the local shopping centre selling briefs at the weekend, but to be honest they were pants. (thumbsup)
P67- posting an article and appearing on Radio Scotland – thats multi tasking.
proposal; today for SPL to pass standing area’s and points deduction for singing about terrorist organisation as prescibed in the 2000(i think anti terrorist act)
both passed
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Look smoke and mirrors we only heard the appeal on the wee taxcase when we asked the questions about owing to a tax authority and they done us out of a champions league place.
This country is corrupt and the day we wake up and smell the roses will be the day we go out fighting.
Anyone who think the celtic board will not save the huns have lost the plot and the men wae the white jackets will be coming near you soon.
Ernie
I am acting daft.
Trying to fit in with the CQN board to manipulate the agenda.
Hail Hail
philvisreturns says:
19 December, 2011 at 12:57
They´d be far too wee for me anyway. ;-)
HAil Hail
ernie lynch 19 December, 2011 at 12:55
“Media House saying Whyte has ‘rustled (that’s what cowboys do) up the cash’ doesn’t mean he’s paid it.”
Have they rustled up ring fenced cash?
What’s with all the bovine talk in the Scottish media?
playfusbal4dguilders says:
19 December, 2011 at 12:57
P67- posting an article and appearing on Radio Scotland – thats multi tasking.
proposal; today for SPL to pass standing area’s and points deduction for singing about terrorist organisation as prescibed in the 2000(i think anti terrorist act)
both passed
Payback for referee strike.
ernie lynch – Media House saying Whyte has ‘rustled (that’s what cowboys do) up the cash’ doesn’t mean he’s paid it.
I heard his milkman is still waiting on his money.
Whyte says he doesn’t owe anything because the milkman’s contract was actually with “Rangers MilkCo”, which has since gone into liquidation.
In other news, Craig Whyte owns a £5m castle. (thumbsup)
voguepunter says:
19 December, 2011 at 12:54
hen1rik says:
19 December, 2011 at 12:51
Do me a favour,gonnae lay off the smarties and irn bru.
I’m a skittles man and red bull lol.
philvisreturns 19 December, 2011 at 13:00
“In other news, Craig Whyte owns a £5m castle. (thumbsup) ”
But doesn’t own the materials for the roof.
Steinreignedsupreme says:
19 December, 2011 at 12:41
‘If Celtic had ‘alienated UEFA’ we would not have been reinstated in the Europa League.’
At the expense of Sion who had gone head to head with UEFA.
‘Do you think our manager is to blame for the situation we are in with UEFA?’
Do you think the refs would have gone on ‘strike’ if he’d said nothing?
Maybe Willie Collum has crocodile vision .
Apparently a croc can see sideways and behind while looking forwards at the same time.
CONTINUOUS CREDIT SCHEME
SPL
Celtic v Rangers
Wednesday 28 December, kick-off 7.45pm
Payment has been taken and tickets have been posted.
SUPPORTERS CLUBS
Rangers v Inverness CT
Saturday 17 December, kick-off 3pm
Payment will be taken on Wed 23 November; tickets will be available for collection from Friday 25 November.
St Mirren v Rangers
Saturday 24 December, kick-off 12.45pm
St Mirren tickets are sold out.
Celtic v Rangers
Wednesday 28 December, kick-off 7.45pm
Payment has been taken and tickets are available for collection.
Let’s concentrate on gubbing the Ayrshire huns before we worry about gubbing the big huns.
Are any of our players near a points threshold for a suspension? If so, leave them out. And I hope Neil tells our players to be very careful: a red card for nothing is a possibility. Of course there would be not time to hear an appeal over the holiday period.
Merry xmas from paranoidville.
Awe Naw
I would be recommending letting the facts speak for themselves, denying lies wherever they occur, but sticking only to facts, facts, facts. Celtic cannot win a propaganda war.
With regard to appealing the big tax case, I believe it would be Murray’s call, as per the terms and conditions of the £1 mega-deal. He might go down that road to get the MBB to take the flak, but may be dissuaded if it means less leeway for MIH. Worst-case scenario for those of us enjoying this as a spectator sport but kind of ready for the denouement now would be that it would drag on towards 2013, but no matter what Rangers and the MIBs did on the field of play with whatever resources Whyte were able to “rustle up”, they could not compete in Europe and Whyte would just be throwing bad money after bad. He would surely pull the plug.
All very interesting. I’ll be kind of sad when we reach the last page.
As a Celtic supporter I find the whole issue surrounding a very small minority of our fans embarresing. However i dont think our context of events should be distorted by an orgasmic press.
What has happened recently is stupid and immature. However it is not violent and nobody has been attacked in the streets. Celtic fans are not violent but a tiny majority rebels without a cause they fully understand.
I think this can be squashed with a bit of positive initiative but lets not lose perspective.
I rarely post as I find that others have more eloquently expressed any feelings that I want to convey. The recent events however and the way that it seems to have tarnished Celtic have caused me to break with long stance on posting.
I am really struggling to understand the rational of the people that are defending the barner and the smoke bomb.
YES individuals or groups have a right to express their opinion of UEFA …but they should do it, if they wish, in their own time and space and not drag Celtic into it. They were not expressing any sensitiment on behalf of the footbal club. [Eg. You have aright to express you contempt of my neighbough who you do not like…but if I invite you and you agree to accompany me to his home, then you should have the good sense to bite your tongue knowing that you are my guest amd any offence you cause their will be atributed to me. When you next meet him in the streets out of my, company then you can have a square go etc without it impinging on me].
If these people wish to go and expess any sentiments for or against UEFA they should do so in their own time and not when travelling and watching a game on the auspecies of Celtic Footbal club, who sold them the tickets purely to go and watch a game and not to provide a platform for demonstration.
As for setting off a smoke bomb .. someone here justified that as not being important because it was in a half empty staduim…..beggars belief ??… I suppose that their should be a law that says smoke bombs permited if the stadium is less than 25%, 50% , 75% full. If there had been an emergency that needed the stadium to be evacuated during the game … the smoke bomb would have helped to ensure that all were safely evacuated?
From being the best behaved supporters in the world with recognition from both FIFA and UEFA, within a few short years Celtic has become a brand that is now associated with negative sentiments in Europe.
All this because of a few lunatics .. that somehow tries to defend the indefenceable. We were fined because of a few weekend “I am a nerd” singing some songs which we all know will get us into trouble. Instead all accepting it and moving on to get our house in order and limit the damage, a few idiots thinks that they are acting for the fans or club and throws their dummy out of the pram. What I am not quite sure about is what the dummy spitting at UEFA is trying to say: Were they trying to say that Celtic moral compase is so base that we can’t really see anything wrong with singing a song that may offend a section of the population. Or that we recognise that it is wrong, but as others clubs are also singing offensive songs we just thought we might as well sink to their level… maybe I am a romantic but I always thought that Celtic is much more than a club, we are the good guys, so we never take our cue from what others are doing. We are supposed to be a club based on family values …we point the way to a standard of behavior that others can only dream and aspire to, so any celtic supporter who tells me that he is doing it because the supporters of club XXX is doing it clearly are not versed in their history.
It is high time that a few supporters recognise that Celtic is a club that is open to all irrespective of religion , class, political opinion. Hence if you want to express class, political opinion or anythiung else which does not encourage the catholic, ( and I use catholic here to symbolise universal and not religion), nature of the club, then you should find other avenues to express it. Yes we had our roots in Ireland but I am sure brother Wilfred did not set it up just to feed and provide a focal point for just the Irish … it is just coincidence that at the time most of the disaffected in Scotland were Irish….. but even from its humble beginings Celtic was open to all irrespective of etnicity, religion, political leanings or social status.
Those that seem to have a narrow view of the Celtic family, maybe they should “know the history” as the song goes. If they want a club that is neither all welcoming nor treats people both friends and opposition with respect and diginity and puts emphasis on a person’s religion, ethnicity and class … then I think that they should go and find a new club to support that meets their narrow view of humanity. I can suggest a good option for them along Govan area.
There is a good saying that a Celtic shirt does not shrink to fit inferior players . but that is on the field, off the field .. Celtic moral compass does not lower itself to suit those that wish belittle the celtic image. There is a previlage to being a Celtic supporter, you join a worldwide family… but within that family we have a collective family behavioral standard that maens that we are seen as being polite and well behaved whereever we go. It is the responsibility of anyone who is a member of this family to always act in such a manner to enhance the image and reputation of the family.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo – They´d be far too wee for me anyway. ;-)
It’s all boxers and budgie smugglers these days.
You can’t beat the good old fashioned Y-front.
You know where you are with a pair of Y-fronts. They’re solid, dependable, and quintessentially British. Not like these continental Lotharios and their louche fancy pants. Like what UEFA probably wear. (thumbsup)
greenjedi says:
19 December, 2011 at 12:52
Thanks.
Was the appeal successful? Is the money still on the table for the MBB if he pulls the plug? If he was successful, what reaction would you expect from HMRC?
The Honest Mistake – But doesn’t own the materials for the roof.
Craig Whyte IS Tevye. (thumbsup)
(BE WARNED) operation save the huns is not to far away and I’m afraid there’s nothing you can do about it.
Paul67
I feel your frustrations and pain, l wish l know the answer.
I just can’t for the life of me understand why Celtic fans willfully damage the club?
I laughed at the other mods fans doing the same thing.
Ktf
Mtt