Let’s be clear, you cannot punish a player on the basis that he has made a comment which is only offensive, offence is subjective, highly so in Scottish football, where thousands await the opportunity.
Nor can you punish a player for a derogatory remark which may offend, especially if the remark does not call into question the probity of the subject. “Hearts are rotten, we beat them easily twice this season”, is a derogatory remark and will offend some Hearts fans, but it also falls into the category of being a fair opinion.
And without pointing out the obvious, you cannot offend the dead. John Guidetti and the club are right to contest this ridiculous charge, which by context, clearly refers to a team no longer with us.
I was absolutely astonished to read that newco (and former oldco) director, Paul Murray, explained Dave King’s absence from newco’s recent share as he is waiting until the SFA “have completed their review of Dave’s status before he can fully participate in the future of the Club”.
The SFA have no issue whatsoever in Dave King investing heavily in newco, or in owning all shares. Indeed, King is already the largest shareholder, which has attracted no attention from the football authorities.
The prospect of King sloping off if the SFA judge him not Fit and Proper (which I think they will), is a fabulous twist in the work of this legendary non-executive director of a dead club. He sat on the oldco board which paid EBTs for so many years, he stayed while they made no provision for the HMRC tax case, plunging into the transfer market instead. Now he awaits the whim of the SFA before deciding to invest, having led newco away from their primary source of funding.
What a star.
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The lying king told everybody he had a nomad ready to step in once he won the vote, couple of weeks down the line no nomad mmmmmmm strange
Just notice we have only two home games in April and both are on a Wednesday night at 19:45 K.O.
Has Alufolien Kopf not had his fatwā issued yet?
hun skelper, they’ll lap it up they never learn. Instead of being run by spivs they are now being run by real ranger’s spivs.
lionroars67
17:18 on 24 March, 2015
tonydonnelly67
17:12 on
24 March, 2015
They will be following the RST agenda tonight, classic whataboutery designed to have us in the gutter with the KU Klux Klan, if listening to Gordon Dalziel is your idea of fitba chat knock yersell oot
What happened to your rallying call on Celtic supporters taking on the MSM ?
As long as its not your beloved Radio snyde…………………………joke
I listen to Clyde now and again when it suits me, and I will listen to it tonight to get there twist on it, I know what it’s about I’m not a dafty it’s a HUN ran phone in, I listen I don’t call in but, only because I’m barred.
The rallying call for supporters that you think is a joke is the reason we are where we are right now, fans with no balls, all waiting on PL fighting there battles, pathetic.
Why all the debate on the name for a bunch of Huns together?
There’s already a collective noun in the dictionary: Wankers.
If we thought Campbell Ogilvie was bad before ,Beware as he has just been knocked back for a U.E.F.A job and wont be best pleased.
A Camel toe of Huns
leftclicktic
17:25 on 24 March, 2015
Don’t think we’ll get another sat 3pm KO again this season
tonydonnelly67
17:27 on
24 March, 2015
You don’t do Irony TD67…………………………..
An erectile dysfunction of huns.
Not even Pfizer could raise them from the gutter.
leftclicktic
17:28 on 24 March, 2015
If we thought Campbell Ogilvie was bad before ,Beware as he has just been knocked back for a U.E.F.A job and wont be best pleased.
Great news, but he will still be haunting us then……. I wonder if any reasons were given?
lionroars67
17:30 on 24 March, 2015
tonydonnelly67
17:27 on
24 March, 2015
You don’t do Irony TD67…………………………..
Like? Yer point?
It’s a clusterf@ck of Huns!
LB
Just how bad is the pain?
They are in agony knowing they cannot touch us.
Keep lifting the trophies and laugh at them.
4 in a row on the way and quite possibly a treble.
Sit back and enjoy every second of it and love how much it is hurting them.
tonydonnelly67
17:33 on
24 March, 2015
On your point of being barred by Radio Snyde
I DON’T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER.”
― Groucho Marx,
Bada Bing
Apparently the reason given by U.E.F.A was “He’s a Hun.”
Paul67
Unlike Celtic it would seem I’m not even remotely surprised that John Guidetti’s Dutch interview has found it’s way to the compliance officer. From the minute I watched it on Celtic social media, I knew that there would be repercussions.
What some Celtic fans don’t appreciate is that the SFA are Huns and the Huns are the SFA, we live in a country in deep mourning whilst pretending they follow Sevco, the hatred is one hundred fold, filled with bitterness , grievance, and revenge.
This has been the case since 2012 but has become increasingly worse from the moment Sevco fiddled the new licence from the same SFA until when it was clear the new club was also very likely, and still is, to go under.
It will not change the real hooligans are wearing blue blazers, and it’s always been the same in Scotland which remains deeply anti Irish, anti Catholic, and deeply anti Celtic.
There is no legal argument that will save John Guidetti no one is safe, in a Kangaroo court , with trumped up illegal charges . There are no lawyers who will be able to convince deeply offended ‘judges’, just ask Aleksandar Tonev.
This is the land of the fenian bastard, where we miraculously continue to flourish.
Re the leader article;
It’s intent though, the intent to cause offense. In this case I think Guidetti was being playful, rather than offensive, but try that on CQN and see how far you get!
I think this is a colossal waste of time and money on the part of the SFA, and I do think Celtic should play this one particularly hard.
Regarding ‘Hun’ and whether that’s offensive or not, it’s bizarre to read so many people referencing history and the ‘real’ meaning of the word. Can I suggest such comments, points of view immediately invalidate themselves. We don’t get to choose which words are offensive to others, they get to tell us. This is a simple principle, which we’re obliged to respect, usually by law, but also by social convention.
Anyway, no point in trying to inject some sense into this debate, but do keep in mind that most offensive words have evolved to their offensive status, not been conceived as such. just ask Jeremy Clarkson and UKIP, they’re always making the ‘hun’ defense.
theglasgowcelticway
17:40 on
24 March, 2015
Bada Bing
Apparently the reason given by U.E.F.A was “He’s a Hun.”
Was that a UEFA committee headed up by a German hun that made that decision on CO
corkcelt
17:10 on
24 March, 2015
A scrotum of Huns,
Re Guidetti, What bloody business is it of the SFA what Guidetti says on Dutch TV. There is no law against being offensive, if there was all the politicians and polis would be locked up years ago. To charge a guy in this manner surely breaches his human rights under European Law
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Ah now in Alba they have a wee law that entails if PC McFlatfoot hears you sing a wee ditty he doesn’t like on the way to and from the footy he can nick you as obviously you offended the sensitive wee soul . Didn’t you know that in Scotland the Police are the arbiters of what can be deemed offensive.
theglasgowcelticway
17:40 on 24 March, 2015Bada BingApparently the reason given by U.E.F.A was “He’s a Hun.”
VG :)
lionroars67
I didn’t even get past the screener, I told him what the show was all about and a few other adjectives, but that’s me , I’m also Barred from the DR too, I don’t sit in a wee safe house in here and tell celtic fans they don’t do irony, or quote Groucho Marx, I get ripped into the cork suckers at every opportunity I can get, smart arse key board bullies are ten a penny in here, you just joined them as far as I’m concerned, so keep quote all you like .
BSR-Nail on head ,and it’s getting worse by the day.
The real problem when dealing with your common garden Hun is the genuine lack of intelligence and ability to use sound reasoning. Arguing with ‘stupid Huns’ will get us nowhere as Huns clearly have no sense of humour nor do they seem to understand the English language.
Their main problems seem to be with the words: Hun, racist, sectarian, tax, debts, liquidation, dead, zombie, fairness etc
So I suggest we keep ridiculing the stupid Huns as they do their very best to live up to the name ‘Hun’.
As for the idiots wearing the blazers in the SFA it’s time they where brought into line by the progressive clubs. They need a complete clear out. Anyone with any baggage should be shown the door.
As for the ‘press’, well it’s a lot harder to deal with them as they will just keep publishing more sh*te whatever steps we take.
Thunder Road
T_ _ _ der Road eh? That’s an extremely offensive and sectarian nom :)
theglasgowcelticway
17:40 on
24 March, 2015
Bada Bing
Apparently the reason given by U.E.F.A was “He’s a Hun.”
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Keyboard water logged now……………………………………………………. LOL
A guffery of huns. \that’s where hunguffery surely comes from?
TGCW
Aye mildly amusing :-)
I should like to propose a new term for them…a hybrid if you will. Yahoos and Huns shall henceforth be known simply as yahuns. That is all.
“On the Rangers terracing on Saturday there was congregated a gang, thousands strong, including the dregs and scourings of filthy slumdom, unwashed yahoos, jailbirds nighthawks, won’t works, burro-barnacles and pavement pirates, all, or nearly all, in the scarecrow stage of verminous trampdom. This ragged army of insanitary pests was lavishly provided with orange and blue remnants…. Practically without cessation, the vagabond scum kept up a strident howl of the “Boyne Water” chorus. Nothing so bestially ignorant has ever been witnessed, even in the wildest exhibitions of Glasgow Orange bigotry……”
The SFA charge is beyond ludicrous, and if the club don’t treat this with the contempt it deserves I will be mightily p£&@”)d off.
As for King and his reluctance to invest, you really wonder what the reaction from the Hums will be if he stiffs them.
I think I’d laugh for a week.
tonydonnelly67
17:46 on
24 March, 2015
I bow before your status as an extraordinary foot soldier of the Celtic support, you got me spot on TD, i could never take on RC and the DR the way you did on the phone, i bet the wee lassie on the other end of the phone was terrified……………..cap doffed
Is Scotland strongly anti Irish? Nope. Apart from a bunch of primitives, nobody gives a damn. My experience.
Sorry HT,
You can’t hide behind that.
You don’t need to club to tell you that the SFA are screwing you and everyone else who subsidises their competitions.
As members of the Association, Celtic can’t advise their supporters to sty away from SFA sponsored events.
CO will beam from ear to ear should Celtic reach the Final and the ground is heaving with Celtic supporters, cheering to the rafters.
No, this is one case where the fans take the lead.
It is not about Guidetti, it is about the continuing maladministration, cheating and corruption of the SFA.
If our match going support are happy to eat it, then there is not much anyone can do about it.
Emerald,
I used to be able to quote a fair portion of that piece from the man in the know. Still makes me chuckle.
Re JG ‘s “charge”
Interesting that a reference to them being liquidated (i.e. deid) is deemed more offensive than the liquidation or the heinous reasons leading to the liquidation.
School books showing the history of WW1 will have to be scrutinized in case the term “Hun” is used.Don’t want to be corrupting young minds.
Islamophobe’s Supporters Trust want a meeting with the new board?
Your guy was on it until he proved how anti sectarian he was.
CAPTAINBEEFHEART
With respect,if it was only a few primitives they wouldn’t carry the sway that they clearly do.
Whether they are in committee at Holyrood evening things up,doon the ludj,in the stands or office bearers in important national institutions is irrelevant.
But they number more than a few,for sure.
Bada Bing
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