“The Scottish FA has a responsibility to all its members and must implement its rules without fear or favour”. Stewart Regan, SFA chief executive, 24 April 2012.
What chance the SFA will be able to act without fear now? I don’t imply they will act without favour, but do you believe SFA panellists can act without fear? Anyone who participates in Rangers appeal process and upholds their punishment will act despite fear.
This process, one of the most important the SFA has dealt with in years, has been subverted, and that calls for a far greater sanction that any already imposed.
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what is it with this mob and ‘footballing’ people should be on the panel ?
its very simple facecombers:
footballing people, for footballing decisions
proffesionals for non football related decisions
54 to 0
Kayal33 on 26 April, 2012 at 14:36 said:
Financially, there’s no justifiable reason to do it. I do it because it’s the best way for me to support the club and give the club a level of stabillity about their income for the year ahead.
Financial stabillity is very important in this day and age.
Kayal33 on 26 April, 2012 at 14:36 said:
Season ticket = £609, £30.45 per game for 20 games (19 league, 1 CL qualifier).
Ticket v St Johnstone on sale at £26, v Hearts at £29.
Financially, what is the motivation for supporters to buy a Season Ticket when you can buy tickets for individual games cheaper. Its not as if we are playing to packed houses, average attendance is <50k and has been for several seasons
Not to be a smart a..e but is it not all about investing in the club?
Who was the Rangers supporter on the panel ?
Hail Hail
on AT blog page found a link to Hateye dr colum the comments below it told him he is a disgrace & how did it get passed the rags legal team, of the 72 comments at time of reading 1 supported him, below is a comment that summed him up, ps IMHO he is another dangerous man in a position to influence the lunatic fringe.
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”
See Hateful’s column above for proof.
Awe Naw…….
…I think he shoud be named too!
And shamed.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
it begs the question then about possible appointments to appeal panel
this really opens the door for suspicion and accusations, is there no end to
the sfa”s incompetence and im being kind to them.
TimsinOhio singing ” Administration then Liquidation, I want the world to know I’m happy as can be “. on 26 April, 2012 at 14:43 said:
not be a smart a>>e either but isn’t buying individual tickets, spreading cost over the season, still not investing in the club?
i will but a season ticket like i have for the last 20+ years, and i will be buying them for my sons as well, the point is what is the financial motivation during hard economic times for someone to shell out £500-£600 when they can turn up and buy a ticket for the majority of games and save money doing so
Hi Paul,
”This process, one of the most important the SFA has dealt with in years, has been subverted, and that calls for a far greater sanction that any already imposed.”
You are doing an excellent job, their sense of entitlement must be erased, the emphasis on fair and judicious sanctions must be constantly restated, all power to you.
neveralone @ 14:43
”Apparently it is not enough that RFC should suvive, that RFC should retain SPL status in any circumstance BUT that they should be allowed extra leeway to make sure they can challenge for trophies! hat planet are these people on? Surviving in the top flight not enough. A tranfer embargo will allow other teams not to lose to us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Looks like the quid is finally dropping, they are reacting like any cornered Rat. We can see why this saga has gone on for so long I do think fholks were genuinely feart of the back lash, woe betide anyone who does not facilitate their survival as they threaten like dockside Bullies
The Footballing authorities have gone further with RFCia than they have done with any other club that’s had an insolvency event yet they are not even close to satisfying R@ngers demands.
The SFL – Would look favourably on an application to join their League.
The SPL – Are changing their rules to allow a process whereby a NewCo can transmigrate into their League – drawing out penalties and sanctions that should have been imposed months ago.
The SFA – Also have drawn out the disciplinary process, allowing precious time to restructure, they have imposed moderate sanctions on a modest portion of their misdemeanors, with an indication they should appeal and theit application would be expatiated and considered sympathetically.
Not good enough- If the Footballing authorities enact a reprieve for ALL the wrong doing over the years, then HMRC cuts a deal allowing repayments to run in perpetuity and the other creditors take a pennies in the pound deal, then ease their restructuring to their rightful position.
Of course they are not going to request this by way of negotiation or a Mea Culpa, no someone else should be FIXING it, handing it to them as a fait accompli – they will then look at it discerningly and say, well that’s more like it…
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 26 April, 2012 at 14:18 said:
I don’t think we should have responded to the resolutions because they are just that, resolutions, to be debated in the proper forum. We could loose that debate before we had begun if we go about winning the debate in the wrong way. Public pronouncements of a position will get you nowhere if you then have to go into a debate with people who already know your position. And have had a chance to make a counter arguement.
As for the Refs Neil Lennon has stood his/our ground very well on this matter, better than Peter Lawell could I think, area of expertise and all that.
If we rush in and mistime our interventions greater harm than good may be done. I trust the board( tin hat on).
Why, because we are not on the edge of the abyss, they are.
G.O.D. Back on the agenda?
A guy called Dickson was in the room. Dont know if he was on the panel tho.
Kayal33 on 26 April, 2012 at 14:48 said:
Would it not be the case that the average price for a particular section would be cheaper via a ST?
No doubt a cheaper ticket could be bought but in a section where the ST would be cheaper than the figure you quoted.
So, if you’re still with me, it is ALWAYS cheaper if you intend to see every match from your preferred section of the stadium if paid via a ST?
Doc is Neil Lennon @ 14:51,
”G.O.D. Back on the agenda?”
Never went away, the Devil tried to fool us into believing it didn’t exist….
Doc
well I think we should have
I dont think we did because we were directly involved in them via the SPL board. I do not buy the Neil Doncaster acting all alone supposition. Especially as Whyte has now revealed that he had dinner with Reagan and Ogilvie back in November and what it was all about. Its all a wee bit too cosy……AND TIMING IS EVERYTHING ESPECIALLY FOR CELTIC
HAil Hail
Chairbhoy on 26 April, 2012 at 14:55 said:
It didn’t go away, but it did go on the backburner.
When the dust settles it’ll be at the front of my mind.
The devil didn’t just try to fool us, he tried to cheat us, “woulda gotten away with it too if it hadn’t been for those pesky Internet bampots”(stole that line from someone on here the other day, sorry forgotten who).
kayal33
£609 does sound a bit steep for a season ticket but prices change depending on where you sit in the stadium.
with tickets for Rangers games (might not be a problem next season) at £42 each, you get them for the equivalent of £30 so still making a bit of a saving. No doubt CL qualifier will be around that price for non-Season ticket holders as well.
As a season ticket holder you also get first choice at CL tickets and these will be cheaper than what non-Season Ticket holders will pay.
Mort
So Matthew Modine is a tim? Tempted to watch Birdie again tonight.
p.s. love the 9 hoops.
HH
neveralone on 26 April, 2012 at 14:55 said:
Possibly, only going on price for my renewal
My point is the club should be trying to increase the numbers on matchdays, ideally through season tickets, but their pricing will more than likely reduce the number of season ticket holders if people see that you can see most games cheaper and without a large one-off payment. Also, take away the 2 x taxdodgers games and I would imagine even more will stop buying season tickets
Still no word from Dallas.
Is he alright?
Rangers ex managers and players out fighting their corner with every ounce of their ability. Our ex managers and players put the boot in when requested.
Why is that?
LB
This blog seems to be a chat room for a certain wee group of posters. On more than 2 occasions i have asked for a wee bit of info / help re items that have been posted previously and never received 1 response.
I’m sure Paul never intended it to be this way. My contributions as little as they may be will cease and I will go back to lurking for info both on here and RTC.
HH PC67
Livibhoy, did you get my e mail address from P67? If so, send me your details please.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 26 April, 2012 at 14:57 said:
I get where your coming from.
However, I’m sticking to the point if we intervene too soon we will weaken our negotiating position. Rangers are at present embarrassing themselves, firing accusations and litigation left right and centre, we don’t need to get involved. The MSM would love us to, I also don’t for one minute believe the board are sitting idly by. I know nothing for certain, but I do know that they have a duty of care, to ensure the best outcome for the club, and I think that, first and foremost, is to play in a league that has sporting integrity, and I believe they will do what needs to be done. As we spoke about the other day, if they don’t I will have a dilemma of huge proportions, as will many.
Apologies if this has been included earlier in the blog..
Alex Thomson’s latest blog piece..
I’ve waited a day or two to write this. And I write on the train from Amsterdam to The Hague to witness the first ever head of state receiving sentence for war crimes.
So everything’s relative. Even Rangers…
And from outwith Glasgow the perspective’s glaring.
Faced with a judicial process at the Scottish Football Association and a due appeal process (active now) to be heard before a retired judge or QC – faced with all that, what does the Rangers manager Ally McCoist do?
Bide his time? Seek appeal advice? Reserve comment on an obviously sub-judicial procedure?
No – he suddenly demands on Rangers TV on Tuesday that the Scottish Football Association panel which imposed a 12 month ban on the club buying players be identified in public.
As an act of such irresponsibility in the current climate beggars belief. Like so many in this drama Mr McCoist goes “public” in an environment where I doubt he’ll never be properly questioned.
Far from letting due process happen and preparing the case for appeal, Mr McCoist chooses a lynch mob approach potentially putting the safety of these people at risk.
It’s an action redolent of the lack of reality, prudence, judgement and moral decency which has characterised so much of a club that’s brought the game into deep disrepute. Moreover, some might observe that Mr McCoist’s inflammatory tantrum is in itself likely to bring the club and himself into disrepute.
Will Mr McCoist be equally “public” in facing up to the responsibility of what he’s done? Given the cowardice of his initial act, you have to say it’s doubtful.
Mr McCoist and Rangers need another reminder that even Glasgow football is now living in the 21st century. Rules get applied – even to Rangers. Outside Glasgow football where else would anyone in normal public life question the independence of the panel as he did – then call for them to he named for the mob? Yet the sheer and obvious outrage his actions should provoke raises little adverse comment in the city. No – so much attention remains focused on the astounding fact that a club that broke rules got punished. Doh!
Small wonder it leaves SFA chief executive saying the rules will be applied without fear or favour. But why should he have to? In any normal world this is a given and accepted. In Glasgow football the man imposing the rules has to say he’ll do his job as if it’s news.
Meanwhile, if I get time in the small matter of a war crimes court, I shall ask the SFA if they intend charging Ally McCoist with bringing the game into dispute for questioning the SFA’s motives, independence and arguably, putting the safety of its independent panel at risk.
Meanwhile… Charles Taylor… Sierra Leone… mass rape… child soldiers… death by machete… and a city and a court where yes, they apply the rules without fear or favour and they don’t feel the need to say
LiviBhoy on 26 April, 2012 at 15:03 said:
Money
Hail HAil
pc67
don’t take it to heart. it’s just not well set up for questions & answers.
huddleboard site is what you want if you’ve questions.
Doc
we can´t do anything but stay vigilant and wait.
Hail Hail
pedrocaravanachio67 on 26 April, 2012 at 15:03 said:
That has happened to me too, probably to many others.
Stick with it though. I don’t think people mean to be rude.
PedroC
Part of the initiation is that you have to flounce and be called a hun.
You’ve passed the Flounce test so congratulations..
And let me be the first to call you a hun.
There, now do you feel better?
HH
RWE
pedrocaravanachio67 on 26 April, 2012 at 14:19 said:
If nobody who is logged on to CQN knows the answer to your question … do you want us all to answer I dont know or make up lies to make you feel better ?
Hail Hail
Season tickets renewed today for myself and Mrs RobinBhoy. We have great seats in ES2 area of the main stand, will never give them up unless poverty takes hold of me.
Investing in the club and guarantee your seat at every game, works for me regardless of individual cost of a ticket.
Hail Hail!
RobinBhoy
kayal33
You illustrate the dilema well.
One way of making STs more attractive would be increasing the price of match-day tickets but that wouldn’t be much appreciated methinks!
Prices in the main have been frozen (effectively a price cut) over the past 2/3 years.
What can you do? Players and other things need to be paid for!
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Hail Hail
I just love this line from Sally, distancing himself from the acts of the Uruk-hai:
“Such activity [threatening behaviour towards the SFA panel members] disgusts me and anyone who engages in it does Rangers Football Club nothing but harm,” he said.
It instantly made me think of the pub scene in Trainspotting when Begbie lobs an empty beer tumbler over the balcony then shouts: “Right, nobody leaves till we find the C*&% who threw that tumbler …”
FF
£135m potential financial asteroid about to hit Govan + £100m MIH write-offs = Nearly a quarter of a BILLION pounds spent trying to beat 9 in a row and the European Cup.
CHASING YOUR DREAM IS OUR REALITY – LIVE WITH IT.
PC67. I’m relatively new at posting here but my observation is that there are so many new stories, plots and sub plots that it is difficult to keep up! Try reading thru 1000 messages if you join at the end of one of Pauls revelations. u can only skim read at best. I checked back your posts in this thread and can’t help,sorry!
Fasseifen
Matthew Modine?
Am I missing something?
Not sure if this has already been posted as I’ve been in meetings all day but Alex Thomsons latest piece is a must read. Hits the nail clean and true!
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/21st-century-rules-applied-rangers/1302
HH
/Bishop B
Sorry if I missed it but who was the Rangers fan on the panel. Is there any proof?